The best Samsung TV I've tested - S90C QD-OLED TV review (2023)
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2023
- Full review of Samsung 55-inch S90C Quantum Dot OLED TV from the 2023 TV lineup.
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Svaka cast Darko, dobar test kao i uvek. Znas li kakva ce biti situacija sa ovim modelom kroz koji mesec. Bilo je reci da ce uskoro dobiti ovogodisnje panele(kada se ispucaju proslogodisnji) koji imaju jace osvetljenje. Oce li biti nesto od toga i ako budu novi paneli oce li stvarno biti svetlija slika ili ce to samsung softverom da ogranici na ovih 1000 nita.
Hi Darko,
Very good review, thanks!
In terms of that grey instead of dark (around 6 minute mark) - isn't that a feat of all QD-OLED TVs? I read/watched reviews of last year's A95K from Sony and it was exactly the same story.
BTW: Assuming you'd have a budget of 3000 euro, what 65 inch TV would you choose?
It would be mainly used for watching football and would be placed in a well lit living room.
Good job talking about the cover Darko, I kinda broke the cover trying to, well... cover all cables at the same time 😂 BTW my controller doesn't have the Web Browser button, was replaced with the Samsung TV Plus (more convenient).
Nice love my s90c
I would like to see how performs with HDR 10+ CONTENT and if it's possible to change the hdmi black level(low) for increase contrast and really true blacks (that's the solution to avoid washed out blacks and colors 😊
I just brought one - looking forward to it
Me to
Hello, are there actually first or second generation panels on the s90c?
if so how to recognize them?
I received mine on Tuesday in 65
Gotta say I love the Samsung remotes. Wasn't impressed at first but after using my small style very similar remote, I find larger ones with lots of buttons so annoying and unintuitive.
Few days ago i was choosing a new TV bcs black friday, i ordered LG C3 77" for 2850€, but next day i saw the S90C is for 2320€, so i canceled order on C3 and ordered S90C, in reviews S90C is better like C3, so we will see
Don't get me wrong. Accuracy is is great and what we should be Pushing towards but I think a tv can be extremely fun to watch and movies look great remainy not particularly accurate.
Similar to speakers, a lot of speakers are not accurate yet some incredible and are very fun to listen to.
I just purchased this TV, last weekend and find that it is pretty good.
I have 4 HDMI cables hooked up and all are under the cover, just fine. Its a tight fit, but doable. I have the 4 HDMI, Chromecast, Cat5 all under the cover.
My older Samsung remote works just fine with this TV, which I like as its easier to keep track of it. The smaller remote, is good, but I prefer the larger remote with better button placement
Happy to hear that you are satisfied with the TV. Keep enjoying it!
Darko please please please please help me! I have an LG CX Oled. A while ago you posted a detailed calibration video covering all the setting of this TV and included your recommend settings and expectations. It was absolutely fantastic and really improved my viewing 1000%. I’m now looking at purchasing the LG C3 oled but it doesn’t seem you have not made such a video for the LG C3 so because of this I don’t feel comfortable purchasing it with out your detailed video advice. Please please please make another detailed settings video so I can confidently make my purchase.
Hi Simon! I’ll be getting C3 OLED soon so don’t worry - I’ll be posting the calibration video and make PDF settings probably in July.
@@TVguyDarko
Oh fantastic! Can you it as detailed as the LG CX video you made? Also I’m on the Scotland is there anyway you could personnel calibrate it for me?
I haven't seen one in person but that coating sounds like it'd be a dealbreaker.
Agree - let's see this year's model how will perform in this aspect.
Great TV but it can wait since last year models are now on sale. Buying 55" S95B for 1250 euros or LG C2 for 1100 is best value for money.
Super test👋, jedno pitanje Darko. Koji TV je bolji S90C 77" ili X95L 75"?
Hvala! S90C sam testirao i odličan je tako da bih njega preporučio.
Hvala@@TVguyDarko
My favorite thing about this is the adwanced features…
Full Throttle Nice!
Give ‘em hell, Polecat! :)
Pozdrav Darko, odličan test...može pomoč....ovaj Samsung ili Philips 718/12?
hvala i lp
Pozdrav! Oba su odlični što se slike tiče zbog same OLED tehnologije, no Samsung je ipak bolji izbor (QD OLED panel veće svjetline i provjereno dobre boje nakon malo podešavanja). Savjeti u ovom videu: ua-cam.com/video/91KaTKmSfzg/v-deo.html
Hello what's your opinion about contrast enhancer on or off? I turn on and setting high in game hdr looks great but every one preference off ?
Should you enable Contrast Enhancer on your Samsung TV?
Is there a solution to the oversaturation with reds. ? any ideas much appreciated. Im not a techie guru but can you set some configuration to fix the issue thanks
Classy tech calibrations just cranks up the green and changes the color space to bt2020
Lg c2 55 or samsung 90c 55?
What is the difference of S92C and S90C
Do you find that the brightness of this TV is good enough in a moderately bright room without having to close curtains? I have read that the S90C has aggressive ABL and certain scenes can be too dark.
Yes, it is bright enough for such environments. ABL is similar as with other OLEDs - haven't seen it as something negative while I was watching the content.
@@TVguyDarko awesome, good to know!
is the S90C thinner than the 95C? it looks that way in the side by side pictures. Thanks!
It’s half as thin as the 95c. I had the 95c and returned it due to a slightly curved panel.
Curious if blacks are still grayish with only a few lamps on in evening? Hearing conflicting things. You say it’s grayish with any light, others say it stays black unless there is direct light pointed right at screen.
Any thoughts on how s90C filter compares to anti reflective OLEDs like on Sony a80K and a80J? Which has a purple tint and less contrast in direct light.
@sduke802 did you find an answer to this? :(
@@doo847 yep , bought the 77s90c with the gen2 panel. Zero issues with blacks unless you have intense direct sunlight on the screen. The gen2 panel has a different AR filter - the best I’ve seen for sure.
Works on this Samsung GSYNC on full 144hz? I have RTX 3090, thankyou
I am going to put an LG chip and operating system in my Samsung 🎉
I am really really torn between buying this or the LG C3. Both have advantages and disadvantages and both are priced similarly
I cancelled my order on the c3 and went with the s90c. Told my wife, I’m sure both tvs are phenomenal but after tons of research I had to go with the s90
I mentioned LG menu, that alone will make the choice easier, Samsung… simplicity, user friendly
@@James__Smith we have the 65 I think it’s the newest panel idk tv is great but I liked my old Bravia from 2019-2020 better for certain movies
Too many QC issues with the Sam, I would go for the C3, it's much better quality that LG has perfected.
@@James__Smith You should go to the store , instead of keep repeating reviewers said . I actually compare s95c and s90c (with 1st gen panel ) for hours before buying it , theres virtually no difference between them , despite the s95c being a wee bit brighter and I doubt most will notice that . Yes I am sure it is better , but the difference is negligible at best .
what motion settings should i use?
Off.
Thanks for the video! I have read when picking out the best TV one needs to take into consideration what one is actually watching. I watch exclusively streaming content: UA-cam TV, Amazon Prime, Netflix, etc. Is it true that Sony's technology is better for this format than Samsung's?
Hey, for high quality streaming and Blu-ray either are good, so you can decide which one to get based on other aspects (Android or Tizen, remote control, design).
Darko, i have an oled gx, is it worth upgrading to an s90c?
Yes if you’ll get a bigger screen size.
would be the same size 65”. It's still worth it?
I think there’s a chance you may have gotten a S95B panel. You’ll want to research this, but from what I hear the 2024 panels don’t have that grayish screen from last years model. While they’re all supposed to be second generation, the 77 inch is for sure because that model didn’t exist last year.
Yes, seems to be the case, but I got it as a retail unit from the store, so this is what's on the market now. Sure, there are new 2023 panels out there, but customers need to be aware.
@@James__Smith you don't know.
@@James__Smithi Spoke directly with Samsung. Only the 77 inch have 2nd generation panel, the 55 and 65 inch have 1st Generation
@@James__Smith i dont know what to tell you. The Company told me otherwise!
I would advise you guys to visit the owner's thread on the AVS forum. I'd link it for you, but UA-cam would probably issue me a spam warning, so you'll have to find it for yourself. Just Google "Samsung S90C QD-OLED Owner's Thread." But yeah, apparently newer S90C TV's, not just the 77 inch model, do have the 2nd gen. panels. Someone posted instructions on how to determine which you have on the 2nd page of that thread. I've seen some other posts, though, mentioning black uniformity problems with the 2nd gen. panels, so having a 1st gen. might not be so bad, plus most people seem to agree that you probably won't notice the "grayness" of 1st. gen. outside of testing.
Hi, if I buy this TV and the Samsung 990C which don’t have HDMI2.1, how can I connect my PS5, apple TV4k, Cable Box etc and not miss out on the 2.1 features?
Can I just plug all of them to the TV first and then to the 990C or will I miss some features etc?
Lastly, can this TV Remote or the 990C remote control the TV+Soundbar+cable box???
I don’t want to use 2 remotes please
I've got the s90c and I'm experiencing noticeable audio lag which I I can't seem to fix because of this I find movies/series unwatchable, has the TV you tested have this issue or could I possibly have a defective tv?
In which sources are you experiencing it and are you using built-in speakers or external ones?
Darko pomozi!
C3 ili S90C?
77"
Zanemari Dolby vision.
Kvalitet slike me zanima.
S90C bez ikakve dvojbe
Thank you very much for your detailed video review! I want your opinion in a matter that I can’t decide.. will you recommend this tv or the lg g2?? The price is the same on both of them.. I use it for ps5 gaming and hdr movies..
As an overall package, I’d take G2. But looking only at picture quality, I’d take Samsung.
On my S95B, I found that SDR CMS was useless and created artifacts. If you set Color to Custom BT. 2020 for HDR in Filmmaker Mode and lower the global color to 20/21, you can get excellent results adjusting RGB primaries, with less posterization than using Auto P3.
Yes, quite often I see issues with CMS and not only on Samsung TVs. Especially for SDR, one would think they would make it work right by now... Same goes for multipoint White Balance...
@@TVguyDarko I remember when I had a Samsung 51” Plasma ten years - CMS and 10 pt. actually worked well. Seems like since 2015/2016 - Samsung has stopped caring about calibration controls, unfortunately. Sony’s CMS works but if you push the hue too far, it’s posterisation city!
Great video, by the way! I always appreciate your uploads and your work.
Hi... there some difference Between S90CAT and S90CATXZT?
No, it is the same model, just some regional designations.
Could you set Samsung color gamut to Auto and re test color accuracy ?
I’ve tested it set to auto and also changed gamut type in Custom to see the impact.
@@TVguyDarko Same results ?
did you get the same results ?
@@TVguyDarko
As a TV that will be used exclusively for gaming which would you suggest in 55 inch, the Samsung S90C or the LG C3?
S90c is a lot better, it’s brighter, better colors, and has 144hz. The c3 is only 800 nits. S90c is 1000
Agree, I would also recommend S90C.
@@TVguyDarko Thank you! I really respect your opinion because your review seemed more honest than any other I've seen on the S90C. Keep up the good work!
Can you still use a one connect box on this tv?
No, it is not supported.
Just canceled my LG C3 65 inch for this
Well, me too, and how satisfy are you with Samsung?
Hey, so I'm weighing up my options all 77 inch.
S90c - £2150
C2 - £2250
G2 - £2750
S95c - £2950
G3 - £4000
I will be using the TV for pc gaming, so windows 11 auto HDR gaming, some movies, anime and some Nintendo switch gaming.
Apparently the 77 inch s90c uses the same second gen qd oled panel as the s95c so they are very similar in actual picture, thoughts on what I should go for?
My first choice would be C2, then S90C and then those more expensive models. C2 has it all, from great picture quality, accurate colors to ease of use thanks for the magic remote.
@@TVguyDarko might take a gamble on the s90c then, Samsung offer 14 day returns. S90c seems to best the c2 in most categories according to rtings.
Thanks for the input, I will let you know how I get on.
👍
@@TVguyDarkoI am in the same boat - the difference being the TV will be mainly as a medium lit living room tv for watching movies, sports and minimal gaming if any.
I am a bit surprised you would choose the c2 over the s90c. Is the reason down to the Samsung clunky interface/remote? I thought in terms of picture quality the Samsung is 1% better than the C2.
We're are you getting those prices? The 77" s90c is 3500 ish in the uk
Yeah I can’t find this tv that cheap
My s90c had a buzzing sound when turned off and also has a lot of jittering
The only time I notice a buzzing with my one was when I booted up, but my older Samsung tv I gave my mum and it made a similar noise at boot up so I guess the boot up did it
It's a pixel cleaning... Every good OLED TV do it, it's minimalise chance to burn in screen
Hey need help i m getting s90c 120 dollar cheaper then lg c3 and also from the qn90c..in the store they explained me that smasung doesn’t have dolby vison iq so blacks looks greenish..and also while screen off the blacks looks greyish. I seen it also the blacks on c3 was punchy black as compared to greyish on s90c.I also quite liked the brightness of qn90c.Please need help I want no problem in future as per service also(in india)
Chroma 444 or 222 for gaming? What Look better
444 is full color info for each pixel so better for PC and gaming.
@@TVguyDarko tranks.
Does it have HDMI 2.1?
Yes.
So UA-cam TV can be installed ?
You should be able to install UA-cam TV
I have a UA-cam TV app on my 2016 Samsung.
Simply put the tv is excellent for the money, having owned LG, which produces a great OLED, but horrible menu! Sony is one of my all time favorites, again their menu isn’t anything speak of. For me Samsung has a user friendly menu, and that alone helped determine in purchasing the 90, plus it doesn’t have that crazy external box like the 95… love the review. It’s an excellent budget OLED
Thanks so much, glad that you are happy with the TV.
I have an LG C1 and recently bought the s90c. I would dare say the picture quality on the C1 is better when watching movies. 4K Dolby Atmos makes a huge difference and it’s something not supported by Samsung. And the movie I was watching didn’t support HDR10+ so I was stuck watching it at a lower resolution compared to my C1
Hdr10+ doesn’t change resolution it would just be in 4K hdr.
S90C "does" Atmos, but doesn't have any speakers beyond 2.1. What can that mean? Passes it through, I guess. Mine arrives tomorrow, maybe it will tell me. Did you mean Dolby Vision? Yeah, it doesn't do that.
What is the game at 8:59 ?
It is Full Throttle: Remastered. I'm a big fan of this title since the 90s when the original version came out. Highly recommended!
@@TVguyDarko ordered! Thank you.
I’m a fan of Broken Sword serie, so I’m looking for similar games
Yo Darko
Yo Michael!
I had bought the C3 and returned it after 2 says due to a green line. I replaced it with this Samsung but the picture is no where close to being as stunning at the C3. How can I fix the blacks so they are true black? The picture isn’t as detailed or nice as on the c3. Worries I made a bad choice in returning my c3 and ordering the Samsung
I returned my s90c next day.
It's colour accuracy awful.
It's oversaturated mess.
Lg is the best .
It's just gaming input lag lower on s90c and much worser tv than lg
Only the Samsung 77" has the New Panel of the S90C versions.
Thanks for sharing, definitely a valuable information.
So, only thing keeping me from going for Samsung instead of LG now is their TV controller. Damn I hate Samsung controller for TVs so much. LG controller is so much better.
Huh?! 😂
Great point and also the reason why I would do the same.
The problem with this TV is that it is too slim and always bent because of this. I checked all the shops (6) in my region and all have this TV with bent panel exposed on the shop.
That would be the S95B. Not the S90C.
No, I have 65s90c and its bent too :)
And those in shops were also 90c
@@peebeeking3587 Ouch that is bad. I am considering buying a 55 S92C. The price just went down to £200.
Sony A80k or S90c? Samsung brighter, but sony have dts and better OS.
Get the cheaper one.. Sony A80 have better OS & better Colors & Dolby Vision (HDR)
Samsung S90c have full 2.1 (4x) HDMI inputs, brighter screen QD-OLED panel, which is more advanced with less burn in
In reality.. get the cheaper one cause both have pros & cons..
In all scenarios.. don't pay their MSRP.. get them with 30% or more
I use the web browser on my tv for uhh...... "Videos"
😂
“The build quality is excellent”
Not gonna lie, the s90c is the cheapest looking and feeling oled I’ve ever seen. Great TV, but the poor build quality is what allows it to be the price of the c3.
Simply put, if you want image accuracy, you don’t get a Samsung.
just put it in filmmaker mode and it gets more accaurate than most tvs except sony
Qd-oled is the best TV technology currently. The only option besides Samsung is Sony A95L. The Sony tv is harder to come by, and for a 77", the Sony is also 2000 dollars extra. On top of that, the Sony TV only has two hdmi 2.1 ports on it. The E-arc hdmi port of the Sony is not hdmi 2.1. That makes the earc port on the Sony QD-Oled useless for me in my situation with my hdmi 2.1 avr. You lose Dolby Vision with the Samsung, but you gain four hdmi 2.1 ports with 4k at 144hz. Sony's 2023 tv is 4k at 120hz, but on only two of four ports.
You so incorrect this Samsung is one of the best image accuracy 😂
False! This TV model is validated by Pantone.
Well yeah, you can get a Sony too, twice the price of course.