Fun with Zorn! - Experimenting with a very limited watercolor palette based on A. Zorn's palette!
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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Fun with Zorn! - Experimenting with a very limited watercolor palette based on Anders Zorn's palette!
✒ Materials used in this video
Schmincke watercolors
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Ultimo travel brushes by Escoda
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Royal and Langnickel Zen brush, round, size 8
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Strathmore Softcover Mixed Media Journal
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Music :
"Ambiment" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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I jumped on this video as soon as I saw it! Zorn is my jam recently and I also was thinking of making a video about this palette.
YES! I haven't even seen anything yet and I'm so excited!
Yes yes yes!! Please do!! :D
Do you use watercolors? Gouache? Zorn's palette is really pretty with oils, it's not easy to translate to other mediums...
Eve Bolt - Bolt's Vault I use it in gouache, so I think it’s a bit easier to translate because of the opacity! I was really skeptical at first, but it was so easy to use. But I think you have to make sure to get the right black. Lamp black is normally nice and bluish!
dont be afraid to use white. I know a LOT of people say the done use white, but i started swatching it for my mixing charts and now i see why its included in many sets. It does lighten and increase opacity BUT for pale, tint colors it gives them a smoothness that can be hard to get especially for high granulating colors. Now i added sennelier titanium white to any palette with 18 or more colors.
Interesting, Karia! I'll have to pay attention to that when I paint. I rarely use white so there's been very few opportunities...
@Wokeness 93
I had never heard it reduces lightfastness? PW6 is a lightfast pigment, as far as memory serve...
Yes, I was taught to mix white or black to add tone or value? To lighten or darken a color.
Beautiful little sketches! I love a limited palette as well. But I don't think I'd want to miss a cool blueish color. I think if I chose your red and yellow, I'd go for a payne's grey with a strong blue undertone. I might give it a try... I absolutely love that red, by the way. It is gorgeous! It is now on my wishlist...😀
Thank you so much! :)
I could include a much bluer "black" when I do my follow-up on this video with the gouache, just to check how much of a difference that could do. I agree that the red is nice, it's so firetruck, bright red!! I don't often use cadmium colors so I had no idea there was a red that intense amongst them XD
I used Paynes gray- just because I really loove it- and the result was great. Bud had to add white gouache, and still feel it as cheating...
Old video... I know... But my buddy's name is Anders and he's from Sweden. It's said like 'un-desh'.
Good to know, thank you! :)
I favor a limited palette above all else. It's good to collect, but I usually work out of a small tin. Even the triple Qor set I compiled is now sitting on a shelf in favor of my small Altoids tin of 6 selected colors. I think working with 3 colors really expands your mixing knowledge and therefore truly a useful learning tool! Awesome vid. :)
I agree! And thank you! :)
I have many bigger sets, but I never end up using more than 5 colors. The more colors I use, the less cohesive I find the finished image. It's also so much easier to use less colors XD
Exactly Eve! There's no truly perfect palette I guess, it all depends on the piece you're working on. It's good to have a wide rang to choose from though. I am slowly accumulating :)
I LOVE limited palettes! This is great! One of my earliest videos was about a limited "master's palette," using Burnt Sienna, Yellow Ochre, and Prussian Blue, which are still my favorite colors to use. This Zorn palette really inspires me to try my hand at a new limited palette and seeing you work always motivates me to try something new! Thank you for this and your continued inspiration with all your work! Cheers always! :D
Limited palettes are really awesome! And thank you for the kind words! :D I should try your limited master's palette, I'm curious about Burnt Sienna as a red. I just need to find one that is easy enough to rewet lol.
Loved this video! Very interesting palette, and I'm all for trying oil paint palettes in watercolor. Question: which are the sizes of those 2 escoda ultimo travel brushes? they quite caught my attention too
Thank you so much! :)
I'm sorry, I don't remember which brushes I used! (but they are from the travel set I liked, so it's either a size 2, 6 and/or 10).
Such an interesting experiment! Would definitely love to see a follow up with the results of adding a white. Love it!
Thank you!! :)
I'll see about making an update video, for sure!
Shame you couldn't go with a black.
You can try it out if you want! :)
I came here in 2020. Very informative video!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!
Really interesting. And informative. I am not familiar with Zorn, always good to learn.
Thank you so much! :)
Are they schminke hordam paints ?
Yes, they are! :)
Thanks for this video!
For a cadmium free alternative I think either PR242 (Schmincke 341) or PR255 (Schmincke 365) might suitable. Both are bit brighter than Cadmium Red Light. PR242 seems a slightly more pinkish while PR255 looks a tiny bit more orange. PR242 is transparent, Cadmium Red and PR255 are not. Schmincke markets PR255 as metal free alternative to classic vermillion. I have this color and their transparent ocker, they make lovely mixes. I might try a limited palette like Zorn's, maybe PB60 would make an interesting alternative to black (I don't have any premixed neutrals in my palette).
Thank you for watching! :)
I'll have to check if I have these colors or pigments in other brands. I didn't have much experience with cadmium paints before getting this one, but it might be fun to find transparent equivalents to the ochre and red colors, for a more "watercolor" feel. PB60 is a beautiful color, I'm pretty sure it would make for a great triad :)
Schmincke offers a transparent ochre (657, "Lasurocker") since last year , it is quite interesting for mixing but its tinting strength is not that great.
Maybe Holbein's vermillion hue or windsor and Newton's transparent orange might be nice in there.
Great video Eve! 😁 That was really interesting see the colors that these three mixed. I'd like to see the results you get with adding white. 😃 Very cool... thanks for sharing! 🤗
Thanks Val! :D
I'll be making an update video with white (I didn't expect people would be this interested in seeing it!). I'm not even sure I have white watercolor.... (that is not Cotman, LOL)
I always wondered if zorn could be pulled off with watercolors. It should be strong in skin tones. Wonder if it can be done by very diluted ochre mixes or you just need to use white for subsurface scattering effect. Store bought skin pans all have white in them.
That's a nice palette and it has a very good range of color mixes, I honestly did not expect that. Also, never heard about Zorn, so I am happy to have something new to research. Thank you for this video! :D
Hi!! Thanks for watching XD
If you check out Zorn's stuff, his oil paintings featuring this palette are really awesome. It's also interesting to see the same colors but in oil, they really don't mix the same way. It almost makes me want to try oils. *Almost.*
I am convincing MalamikArt to do another Oil video where she needs to persuade the viewer to try oils. Because they really look like *a lot* of work. I think if you wanted to try a similar effect, you could try some cheap acrylics. I bought my set for the christmas ornament and have not used them since, but I could probably whip them out and see what happens. Ochre, red, white and black I think are staples in every palette, so I think I have them... I think.
I haven’t tried to paint with just these three colors before, but I really like their look together! Super limited color palettes are my favorite, because they tend to keep me on track. I’d love to see an experiment from you with including white as well! Even if it was just some gouache you already had rather than watercolor.
I just got a Payne’s grey from Sennelier and was really surprised to see how....uh....colorful it was! You may like it! It has a bit of a purpleishness to it, as well as the expected blue.
I agree, I also really enjoy super limited palettes! It takes care of worrying about color cohesiveness XD
I think I have that grey in their starter set? I'll have to check it out (it's an incredible value!!). I find it funny how not two Payne's greys are the same lol
Eve Bolt - Bolt's Vault the test pack is exactly where I got it! Spoilers, that’s one of the reviews I’m slowly working on. =>.
been stalking ur videos and *i love your channel! your content is amazing!*
Thank you so much! And thanks for watching as well :)
Just the video I was hoping for! Thanks for making this. I like your idea of using neutral tint instead of black… I want to try this today! You may have seen James Gurneys Zorn video with gouache… a very interesting comparison on watercolor vs gouache. I think the Zorn palette has a lot of range…seeing green emerge out of your black and yellow mix is thrilling.
Thank you!! I'm glad the video was helpful! It's a really interesting palette :)
Lead white is still used in oils.
Very interesting. I'll have to try that. This being said, I don't know how one lives without ultra blue and cobalt violet.. boohoo!
Hehehe! I can easily live without ultra blue ;) I love cobalt violet though, it has the softest granulation color ever ♥
As a Swede I kind feel a need to add a comment here :) and another thing. Maybe try the Zorn palette with gouache too?
Hehe! That's what I'll try; white gouache and white watercolors, see if there's any relevant difference. :)
Nice. Very interesting Eve. I'd like to see you demo a little larger & a little more detailed landscape painting please.
Noted, thanks for the feedback! :)
Love your demo paintings! You make it look sooo easy. I think limited palettes always render very chic pieces. Less is more elegant ;)
Thank you so much! :)
Limited palette makes it a lot easier too, as I can't possibly match all the colors :)
Those colors look beautiful together I’m gonna look into Zorn I’ve never heard of them
He painted some really nice portrait with the four colors, it's fascinating to observe! I hope you check him out ;)
Well done. A good video.
Payne grey is a good substitution too,
Thank you! I want to try it with Payne's grey too, it's a great suggestion.
can you do more limited color again? I want to learn to use limited color because of their unique combinantion
Sure! I love working with limited palettes :) Thanks for the suggestion!
That range of mixes is so surprising! Great video! I would love to see an updated video with white added!
Thank you!! :)
There was a lot more interest for an update video than I would've thought, so I'll be making one :)
Great topic of choice! Looking forward to more. Thanks
Thank you!! :D
Also I suspect white gouache wil stop the watercolors from flowing. Please do try both gouache and watercolor white.
It's a very strong triad for skintones, indeed. Diluted for lighter colors and a mix of all three for darker colors.
I'm not entirely sure I have white watercolor, hehehe oops. I'll have to check through the hoard, in my various sets, for one XD
I believe St. Petersburg makes a white zinc.
This is so great! I never thought myself to limit me to 3 colors, but they actually work really well together. :)
Can i be sent some schmincke wayercolors pls
No.
@@EveBolt ok
You know any retailers who donate supplies?
Yes I’ve heard of Zorn and his palette but I’ve never tried it. I’m game!
Nice, thank you!
Thanks! :D
you sound like BMO from adventure time and I love it!
Oooh excellent greens
They are! They are so muted, it's very moody!
Now I will definitely try to paint with these three colors! 🙂
Glad to see a watercolorist try the zone palette!!😁
Thanks! There's a few of us who've tried it, I think! Jane Blundell on her blog and Sadie Saves the Day here on UA-cam (if I'm not mistaken!)
@@EveBolt I was quite curious in seeing what watercolorists would do with this palette since it uses white, which is not typically used in watercolor. Definitely inspired me to give this a try eventually! Love your videos!❤️😊
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I love them and some of the range I feel I could pull from most of my sets. I will enjoy using it more as I get into landscape and garden themes.
I love it! I hope you do an update in the future with more things you did with this palette
What is the metal palette box? Where can I get it?
Very interesting information! Thank you.
Thanks!
I got the metal tin from Cornelissen, here : bit.ly/2o4MQ8c
Eve Bolt - Bolt's Vault Thank you so much!
Got the idea of three colors from Mandy's videos, and wish to try it more. Did a few of a bleak Shetland scene from the show on Netflix. They turned out appropriately bleak but not too interesting 😒. Have so far resisted adding some contrasting colors to the two I tried in oil. Must pick more interesting colors next time 😀
Shetland is a great show :)
It's a difficult challenge to work with only a few colors! There's so much to learn from it though. I hope your future tries will be more to your liking in terms of results! ;)
PY43 is a pretty warm yellow, PB60 is a slightly warm blue, I would not have thought anything green would come out of that. :-)
Yes!! Also, I'm very glad to hear that to you, PB60 is a warm color! I've seen it mentioned as a cool blue a few times and I'm confused by it all. I have Daniel Smith's Indanthrone blue and it always looked more reddish than yellowish to me... (even if it's quite a faint color tendency).
It is a bit dark and dull, and might look a bit cooler than the same hue brighter and / or lighter. I looked at some online swatches. For example, Schmincke makes two paints with it, one looks maybe ever so slightly cool, but I thought most swatches looked slightly warm. The 'handprint' paint wheel puts it with the cooler version of Ultramarine Violet.