2024 Ford F-150 King Ranch vs. 2025 Ram 1500 Tungsten | Luxury Truck Comparison Test
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2024
- These days, full-size trucks aren’t just built for towing and hauling. More and more commonly, they’re also luxury items, with more luxurious trim levels constantly cropping up. Enter the 2025 Ram 1500 Tungsten, the brand’s most high-po truck yet. With the Tungsten, Ram is coming directly after other high-dollar trucks like the Ford F-150 King Ranch. Both trucks were recently updated - and the Ram’s Tungsten trim freshly introduced - and Edmunds’ Brian Wong puts them head-to-head in this comparison test video.
00:00 - Intro
00:26 - Trim Levels and Engines
00:52 - Ram Powertrain
01:26 - Ram 0-60 Speed
02:20 - Ram Suspension and Feel
03:02 - Ford Powertrain
03:42 - Fuel Economy Comparison
04:00 - Braking Comparison
04:16 - Ride Quality Comparison
04:38 - Driving Scores
04:47 - Technology Comparison
05:19 - Hands-free Driving
05:47 - Hands-free System Pricing
06:38 - Ram In-cabin Technology
07:56 - Ford In-cabin Technology
08:53 - Technology Scores
09:03 - Ram Interior
10:16 - Ford Interior
10:48 - Pricing Comparison
11:07 - Interior Scores
11:15 - Rear Seats
11:42 - Cargo and Storage Comparison
11:53 - Interior Storage
12:56 - Flatbeds
13:40 - Payload and Trailer Hookup
15:09 - Towing Experiences
17:41 - Towing Scores
18:07 - Overall Utility Scores
18:15 - Edmunds Rating and Conclusion
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Both of these refreshed full-size pickups were impressive, but in different ways. The Ram's interior and performance stood out, while the Ford's utility and smart cargo/bed solutions made it a true workhorse. It's rare that we end up with a comparison that's so neck-and-neck, but each truck has distinct strengths. So which camp do you fall into, team Ford or team Ram? Let us know in the comments below!
I like the ram better but I think a better comparison would be the F150 platinum vs the Ram tungsten. The king ranch f150 matches up with the ram limited longhorn.
The Ram's engine is a 3.0L, not 3.5L.
I'm going to keep my Hemi for a while. That Hurricane has lots of jam but I'm going to watch the reliability for a few years before buying one.
given it's a stellanitis product, that's not the worst idea.
@@roguedogxNot like any previous Chrysler product was any better! Ha!
@@AgonxOC i don't disagree, I'm just trying to be accurate.
Don’t think my math is mathing, how could they both get a 8.1 score but the Ford was up in more categories?
Exactly.....😂
As a Ram owner, your points on the camera being squeezed to the top and android auto only using the top half are 2 of my gripes. The ride quality with the 4 corner air suspension was the real selling point for me. No other full size truck comes close. As for the lack of the Hemi, Id prefer the V8 over a more complicated 6-cylinder with turbos. Look at the reliability of the Fords when they first came out. 75K people having their engines replaced and turbos replaced. When you buying a vehicle that costs as much as a small house from the 2000's, I don't want one that needs more money in repairs.
Ford has had 14 years to work those issues out so I think it's safe to buy one now
@@snozbaries7652 I would hope so, but a friend in my neighborhood has a 2022 F-150 with the 3.5L twin turbo and under 25k miles, that just spent 4 months in the shop for "carbon buildup on the valves and in the exhaust housing of the turbo". The dealership said to install a catch can to alleviate the issues, and his response was, why doesn't it come with one? Ford knows that the PCV system vapors are the cause of the issue, but due to EPA regulations (which is also driving the switch to turbo vehicles) won't allow them to install them from the factory.
@actual.actual that's right.. It's a 3.5L. Definitely my mistake. And it's the direct injection that causes the valve build up. Port injection cleans them. Direct bypasses them and goes as it indicates.. directly into the cylinder. I have a Mustang that does both, port and direct.
@@actual.actual I'm not sure of the root cause of it, maybe poor fuel that found around our area? In my neighborhood of only 20 house, all 3 F-150 owners have had this issue. One, had a 2014 that required a complete engine replacement at just 65k miles. I know it's a small sampling compared to the big picture, but when the trucks cost upwards and above 70k, it steered me away from them. Pretty much any direct injected engine without a catch-can on the PCV system is going to have build up on the valves in the long run. When I bough my 2019 Mustang GT, my dealer immediately suggested one for it, if I planned to keep it longer than a few years. Even though that engine (5.0 Gen 3 Coyote) has both direct and port injection.
@actual.actual WV. And I think most of them run 87. Which I'm sure doesn't help performance in those at all. We can get 93 at almost any station though. Do the Ecoboost F-150s require 91 or higher?
Premium fuel only in the Ram is a total deal breaker. That makes it insanely expensive to own and operate. What were they thinking?
An extra $50 a month instantly makes it insanely expensive (more so than the initial purchase prices already make it out to be)?
Only $50 a month, LOL you don't drive much@@ALMX5DP
If you’re spending 90k, I’m willing to bet you don’t care. I don’t know another 90k vehicle that runs 87. GM 6.2 is also 91 rated
@@golfgti47 yeah, people aren't buying a truck like that to work it. If they didn't have this, they'd have a Porsche or a high end BMW or Mercedes or something. Cruiser trucks are just the in thing now.
@@SliderFury1 exactly, they’re buying a regular tradesman with the standard output which is fine on 87
Can’t wait for GM ‘s new gen 6 small block V8 to drop .
10+ years of the same GM output , i agree with you. Looking forward to a new 6.2
@@9663mu idk if it’ll be a 6.2 . Dont think GM will be having multiple V8s with different displacements anymore . No more 5.3 /6.2 . I think they’ll use a Gen 6 version of the 6.6 across the board for the light duty SUVs/trucks. Probably 450 hp/500 TQ
@@carltongray3302 the 5.3 needs to go. The 6.6 could work but how bad would that affect the MPG
@@9663mu yeah the 5.3 has ran its course . Even an updated version would only be on par with the 5.0 in the F150 power wise and that’s not enough to run with the competition now . I think a 6.6 wouldn’t be any worse than the current 6.2 on fuel . I think GM should just use a version of the L8P crate engine they just introduced . Makes 523 hp/543 TQ. A milder version for production would be perfect as it’s a true truck engine . Fully forged internals , iron block
I imagine there will be more DOHC variants along with standard or commonly opted for hybridization. That would allow smaller displacement while retaining overhead for more powerful or higher displacement units in the expensive models without sacrificing emission and fuel economy.
Ford’s 23mpg and regular fuel will be $75 cheaper to run every 1,000 miles, vs premium fuel and lower mpg in the Ram.
Wow! That’s a lot! Thanks for doing the math!
I love that Ram trims out the window bezel on the interior facing side of the doors. Note the visible red paint around the Ford's side windows from the interior, with the doors closed. Yuk.
My beef with the interior of the new-ish Ram's interior is that the super handy upper glove box has been replaced with a stupid touch screen. The upper box still exists on lower trim trucks, but not even an option on Longhorn or Tungsten. A no-cost "Passenger Infotainment Screen Delete" option should be available to buyers. ARGHH!!!
7.2 kw Pro Power Onboard is still the killer feature. Otherwise I'd choose the Ram.
Yeah, for me too. Just so many benefits of having that big of a power source.
Have to agree, my super duty has the 2Kw and it's something I thought I'd probably never use (comes standard on my trim) but already I've used it several times for power tools, charging the battery on my chainsaw, powering a big floodlight, and a big fan, etc. And that's just the 2Kw.
@@0HOON0 can't lie, Ford has a huge ace with that feature.
You can order a 2kw power for the Ram, but they didn't mention it.
@@SliderFury1I have the 2k in my F150, it has a small battery and a larger inverter, upgrade on the usual 400 watt, but not the same as the hybrids.
What a great and detailed review of both trucks. I love the style, flexibility and luxury on the RAM, but Ford does not stay back with similar qualities. Great comparison. Thank you.
I don’t care about any of this if it doesn’t come with a V8😂😂
Yep. V8 is gonna be more reliable compared to other engine options from turbo V6 to turbo I6 to turbo I4. I honestly think the Titan had the most reliable V8 left since it doesn’t have start/stop or cylinder deactivation like the others.
1. Titan V8
2. Ford V8
3. GM V8s
Exactly!!! Them twin turbo will wear those engines out !!! Geez you can’t get a V8 on a half ton pickup!! The start of the end for these full size pickups !
@@stevenwright248thankfully GM still has two V8’s in their lineup and they’re not getting rid of the V8 for the next generation.
All I got from this is: if you need a pickup to do pickup things, buy the Ford. Bigger bed, higher payload, higher towing weight, on board power supply, etc.... The difference in price more than makes up for what the Ford may lack in luxury appointments that aren't really all that necessary/needed in a truck. Kinda like how you glossed over the 7kw onboard power that can power a worksite or an entire house in emergency situations during storms, power losses, etc... That alone, places it way above the Ram. Trucks work, that's what they are made for. The Ram is an overpriced luxury car wannabe that can sometimes do truck stuff.
Finally somebody said it. 👍🏻
Would've loved to see the F-150's lie-flat seat pitted against the Ram...
The lie-flat seat is very gimmicky; because your legs and knees still sit bent to the floor, it is never going to be as good as a bed and only marginally better then a standard seat reclined back. I have slept in it a couple times when camping in a storm, and I find I can sleep just as well with it fully flat as I can slightly reclined (with neither being as comfortable as a camping cot).
What weight were you towing?
Example Airstream makes a 23 fter, 25 fter, and a 27/28 ft model. Looks like a 27 ft in test, but you don’t specify???
Would like to know please
thanks
Comparing the KR to the tungsten interior is dumb should’ve used a platinum plus to make it closer and if I remember the platinum offers 3year blue cruise
Ram DOES NOT require premium. Look up info from their engineers on UA-cam
The HO does specify minimum 91 octane in the owners manual.
No way around it, these new twin turbo 6 cylinders are insane. Motortrend got 4.4 0-60 for the Tungsten. Im willing to bet these motor in the new charger would put it right behind the old 700hp hellcat. Any way you slice its, mid 4s 0-60 for a 3 ton gas car is absurd for a non performance oriented trim. Anyone complaining about the V8 being gone is brainless. This is coming from someone who daily drives a V8 sports car lol
I have a 2019 limited f150 limited. People hate on the ram, but when I get rid of this, I will highly consider the ram. The interior is sick
How is fuel economy not a criteria in the article. I like the ram a lot more but requiring premium for combined 17mpg is gross and that's your only powertrain choice you have with the higher trim levels.
They don't require it but I would not run the cheap crap in a high powered twin turbo motor, unless your out in bfe and its all that's available. The ford also recommends it for the power and while towing, Chevrolet 6.2 also requires 91 for the best power. It's not a huge difference for cost, most other expensive suv or sedans often require it of the same price. At what most trucks cost usually 60-75k msrp most can afford the small price difference, but in reality I don't understand how so many can afford these expensive trucks besides a business.
Handling between these two close? You weren’t pushing hard enough. F150 front end feels too soft, and the rear too stiff to the point that it jitters and jumps out. Makes the front end always feel like it’s folding the tires under, just an unbalanced chassis in general. Ford also has some snafus on interior, starting with turn signal indicators in gauge cluster, they’re hard to see. Ram is the better driving truck by far. That said, with no physical oil dip stick on new Ram engine that’s a big red flag. Relying on a sensor. Sensors and electronics in general have a much higher failure rate than physical components.
Are you autocrossing your truck?
@@snozbaries7652 Lol, when the mood strikes, or opportunity presents itself, yes.
@@g.donuts3551 lol!!
@@g.donuts3551 I think the video reviews conclusion checks out though. Ford intended for their trucks to do better when loaded or towing whereas it seems the Ram excels when unloaded. It's a trade off just depending on what you prioritize.
I hate the Ram vertical screen. It sucks its mandatory for higher end trims
Well, the RAM guys will *pick* a *1500* and the Ford guys are *up* to buy an *F-150*
I feel like the FORD is a little more iconic and has something that screams tough and built to last. The RAM is not iconic enough and is too "luxurious" for it to be a truck.
The new Hurricane, as far as power goes, its amazing! I truly hope it’s a good engine in the long run! This in a nice sedan would be nice!
I dont know of many truck buyers criteria including a 0-60. I really only care about capability, affordability, and reliability. Everyday buyers are not taking their truck to the track.
Amen, especially at 2:14 I was like what!?!? Reliability, longetivity, easy and affordable repairs would be the endorsements I’d be looking for in a truck engine
Its not about taking the truck to the track and those numbers, it's the effortless and fun driving experience that a ton of power offers. It's addictive and hard to go back from.
@vladblazanin136 I get that. I was just being hyperbolic to make a point. Still highlighting that most buyers are mainly concerned with reliability, capability, and especially affordability, considering that most of these trucks have absurd prices with crazy markups.
The ram does not have independent rear suspension as you said it did
Biggest negative on the Ram is Stellantis. No thank you
I'd gladly give up 0.2 seconds, 0-60 for 6 more MPG
They also never mention gearing
Domestic full-size pickup truck owners are on first name basis with the dealership service managers. They spend more time in the loaner cars than they do their trucks.
Good test Edmund. A couple of things: The F150 Platinum Plus is the true Ram Tungsten competitor and would equally be $90K.
-There was much hoopla made over Ford's underseat storage, yet the Ram's in-floor storage was completely missed, as was its class-exclusive reclining rear seat(it also has child-seat anchors on the passenger side.) Ram still missed the extra point on tech, despite a better and cheaper self-driving feature, 24-speakee Klipsch sound system, passenger screen display, and the ability to put the map in the driver screen? Hmmmm...
@@hellkitty1014 that probably falls under the "the video can only be so long" reasoning.
Also, they get the trucks available to them from the press fleet at the time. These are close enough for comparison.
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@@willkaufman363 they speak the truth regardless
Good video but if I was going to buy a Ram which I never would but if I was going to I would not buy the first year of an all new engine especially a twin turbo engine. One thing I don't like to see is how a lot of automakers are going to subscriptions for some of there features like Toyota you have to pay for remote start monthly. I think if your vehicle comes with something you obviously already paid for it so you shouldn't have to be paid for it every month 🙂
I love the RAM hands down. What I would never use is the "hand-free" driving mode regardless of how good it is.
Absolutely!!!! A real truck !!!
I’m still a America First person! F series Trucks are the Only pickups still made in America!
well if you’re an America first person then consider the ram because they are more American made than the ford F series, so is the cyber truck and the ridgeline…
@@jaivynstockdale6251 you are so full! And you don’t know what you just said!
@@melvinhunt6976 i actually do know what i said, the ram scored 43rd, meanwhile the ford scored 58th
@@jaivynstockdale6251 I will not buy a Full Size pickup made anywhere but in the USA, Period! Not as long as all F series are made HERE !
@@melvinhunt6976 well than good luck with your new cybertruck 😀
Nobody that has ever owned a Chrysler product or a Ram truck in their right mind would ever make the choice again. Talk to any independent mechanic (or even one at a Chrysler dealership) - they'll tell you to stay away. Ford consistently sets the bar and their reign won't end anytime soon....despite dodges/rams bougey interior
😂 As a 30 year Certified ASE Master Tech I can honestly say Nothing is futher than the Truth then your statement. How long have you been stuck in the 80's ? Still Rocken that Mullet?
Well just like a broken clock is correct twice a day, there's exceptions to every rule, and it sounds to me like you're a die-hard hardcore dodge fanboi that can't accept facts. Rock on sister. If you're happy with 3rd tier disposable 'trucks', have a good time!
My pick is the Ram too.
Shocking when it comes to the brakes. The Rams have the strongest brakes in the segment. Hmmm
4:00 not an insignificant difference.
I agree. It's night and day for MPG for each truck, and the Ford is only 0.2 second behind 0-60
@@sherylellingson3538wrong, 5.9 vs 4.7 is 1.2, that’s huge
Can’t wait to buy tungsten
Ram is much more luxurious and high end trucks is what you tested.
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I thought torque is what matters? So the hp ine Ram was just superior?
The f150 could do more truck stuff therefore it’s the superior truck
The problem of Android Auto size is depending from Google, not Ram!!!!
I am losing my flavor for the fact they eliminated the V-8. A truck works hard or harder. V-6 Turbo is a crime, in my book. I would never buy a used trucks with these blocks. I wonder how long these engine will last under fair loads/towing. I am looking for a used, dealer cared, with extended coverage HEMI.
These aren’t even relatable, you are comparing a higher trim interior to a lower. The king ranch is not the highest trim and the tungsten is.
The Ford looks 20 years old in comparison. It legitimately looks old.
The RAM option establishes this inverse relationship: while you get to go faster, your mechanical reliability and durability will decrease just as fast.
I think history will show that they both have there share of problems.
Fuel economy is not a concern for ya?
@@toyotaprius79 beat your face Prius dork.
The powerboost has been Ford’s least reliable powertrain in the F150
@@carltongray3302Least reliable powertrain in any mainstream vehicle according to Consumer Reports. Hopefully Ford has sorted this out for 2025.
No v8 no buy.
then get a lower spec F150. you can get one of those optioned out very nicely. I feel like the top spec models just have a lot of gimmicks truck owners don't want or need.
Truck for truck I’d take the ram for every day driving and the Ford if I needed more payload and towing. Reliability wise Ram has the worst dependability and Ford has the most recalls overall in the last year. Both are overpriced by a lot.
Neither. I’ll take a GM with the 3 liter duramax
Thirty miles to the gallon!....of DEF
@@0HOON0 I have one, and 2.5 gallons of def gets around 2500 miles
Lol, dude is like a metro version of a truck just like these trucks. Bet he loves teslas
Bring a 4.0 V8 Hemi back with a turbocharger!!!!
Shameless V8 sponsored! Video. That drink has too much sugar and pretends to be good, just like these overpriced trucks
I think the joke went over your head
Quiet in the peanut gallery!😂
What a douche!
If you're broke just say that...😒
Now thats a biased cmoparasinon
2:14 no 0-60 is not a massive endorsement of these v6 turbo engines on $80k+ trucks.
I can buy a tune for $1k and increase horsepower even more. Does this mean the tune is a bigger endorsement even if they blow a bearing or the turbo in 60k miles?
Longevity and reliability would be a massive endorsement!
What are you trying to convey here. There are plenty of 3.5V6TT, 2.7V6TT from Ford out there with 100s of thousands of miles working just fine. I am not sure what the RAM will do, but I hope it does well!
@@AgonxOCwishful thinking 😅 I hope you’re right. Plenty of ford engines doesn’t mean much. I also know plenty of ford turbo engine customers with head gasket issues 😅
That Ford interior is absolutely atrocious🤮
And yet it's 100 times better than a 90's trucks but men never complained about that back then. Stop eating soy beans boys.
That’s a you Android problem.
I destroyed this car
We see guys driving pickup trucks as commuter cars, never using them for their intended purpose. I'm guessing it gives a feeling of manliness.
GMC ultimate best truck In the market
Ram dashboard leather bubbles up…
2020 Limited still in perfect condition.
Mine didn't still was perfect when I traded it off due to the shitty 5.7 hemi. The Fords interiors are cheap hard plastic everywhere.
Both options are trash, long life to the V8’s
What a joke wouldn’t touch either of these over priced recall trucks put the healthy drink down..you know you want another donut.
That’s what I would say if I couldn’t afford something too 😂
Look at all my bottles of V8 juice... I am a comedian. Keep your day job. You are marginally better at that.
If I ever buy a new truck,,,,Ram will be out of the mix. Sorry Ram. Nice knowing you!
Absolutely ridiculous that we allow these death machines on our roads.
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Why doesn't Stellantis have a Ford Maverick competitor? More alarming, why hasn't Toyota made a Maverick hybrid competitor after all these years?
Money 💰 more money in big trucks 😅
Ram makes a Maverick competitor, the 700...you can buy one in Mexico.
The 700 isn't even close to maverick....98 hp and 5 speed manual only .
@@bcelectricc And that's why it does so well people want a small economical truck
@tedlulis973 I agree but 98hp isn't gonna do much truck things? Like 98 !