How Does Borderline Change Over Time? | Clinical Staging & Course
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2019
- This video answers the questions: Can I analyze borderline personality disorder from the perspective of the big picture (life course perspective)? Can borderline personality disorder have clinical stages? Is there such a thing as stage 4 borderline personality disorder?
Borderline Personality Disorder:
In the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM), we see nine symptom criteria for borderline personality disorder and five have to be met for a diagnosis. The symptom criteria include frantic efforts to avoid abandonment, unstable relationships, identity disturbance, impulsivity in two areas that are potentially self-damaging, suicidal behavior, affective instability, chronic feelings of emptiness, inappropriate or intense anger or difficulty controlling anger, and paranoid ideation or dissociation. Borderline personality disorder is a Cluster B personality disorder, so it’s in the same cluster is antisocial, narcissistic, and histrionic personality disorders.
Hutsebaut, J., Videler, A. C., Verheul, R., & Van Alphen, S. P. J. (2019). Managing borderline personality disorder from a life course perspective: Clinical staging and health management. Personality Disorders: Theory, Research, and Treatment, 10(4), 309-316.
Cavicchioli, M., & Maffei, C. (2019). Rejection sensitivity in borderline personality disorder and the cognitive-affective personality system: A meta-analytic review. Personality Disorders: Theory, Research, and Treatment.
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@Adrienne Gurge Interesting that you mentioned technologies for people to have children later. There is research showing that umbilical cord mesenchymal stem cells can not only stimulate regeneration, but also cure infertility in women and even possibly extend their fertility window beyond 40s. Check out Joe Rogan's podcast with Mel Gibson and Dr. Neil Riordan where they talk about Mel Gibson's now 100-year old dad who underwent treatment by those cells thus regaining his health. They discuss all the areas those cells can be used for
Somebody said that to me recently, she was referring to her 15-year-old son whom she fears were getting into drugs and mixing with the wrong crowd. She tried everything but nothing was getting through to her son.
Her: I don't want to fix things when it is too late, after all, It is easier to build strong children than to fix broken adults.
ME: That's true I guess... but which one is more pragmatic?
If you’re reading this you are NOT alone❤️
Quite horrifying thought, considering I live alone.
Authentic Mental Health thank you! I’m feeling alone. I’ve made my world so small.
Authentic means there is someone in to room with you. Try not to panic but look around slowly. 😨
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@@Kristen10-22 same
I would think that because bpd is a personality disorder as opposed to a chemical disorder, it can and does change because of the people around them. Sometimes it might not be as noticable because they are with a parent or partner that is better at dealing with, or masking the symptoms. Over time even well adjusted, healthy people's personalities change in at least minor ways due to life experiences, and I can't help but think as hormone levels decrease during aging that there might be some sort of link there as well..... In dealing with my own mental issues over the course of my life, I've learned to avoid situations that I have a hard time with, and maybe those who have bpd and are self aware enough to understand their illness, also find a way to deal with at least some of their issues. ..thanks for all the excellent videos Dr. Grande
Very much agree with you! 👋
We had to cover up for all his irresponsibility...few times he missed jail just lucky
Yesterday was my uncle's birthday, he turned 50. He had a hotel party for the family, it was a good experience. Even tho most of the time my mind was running with detrimental thoughts. I was cool, drunk a bit, but not too extra which helped my anxiety. I'm happy I went instead of spending my day in my room.
I say that to say, I am one who has become really bad at social stuff. So much I haven't spoken to anyone besides family in MAD long, but I liked yesterday. Also I was going thru a bad time trying to get ppl to see my perspective. Didnt work, I felt I was idealizing, placing there opinions far too high upon the figurative pedestal. Once I accepted and took away that value, I was okay. I think it's about finding a balance between caring, but only to the extent that's necessary. In many cases, the exertion of energy isnt worth that cause.
Thanks for the video, because everytime u upload i get to consult myself. Reflect, and sometimes I wish I was as shallow as a bird bath. Bcuz my depth enables to me speak, opening new doors that shouldnt be (like yo bro when u gonna end this?). I'm done now.
I really appreciate your explanations of BPD, not only in this video but others as well. I've seen too many professionals speak about BPD in general terms as if those with this disorder are simply toxic and need to be avoided, like the malignant narcissist or psychopath. I really appreciate that you do not take that stance ❤
I can’t wait to watch this later! DX with Bpd at 43yo! At first a weight lifted..now isolation & periods of deep sadness. I’ve created exactly what I had hoped would never happen. Down to only me & my family.. hubby & son. I miss my family of origin so however they aren’t healthy for me or our son. He is what’s most important. Lost many to addiction.. somehow I’ve survived addiction, b cancer, a pulmonary embolism.. God isn’t done with me yet. Thanks Dr. Grande
Incredible video . . While in prison I engaged in a Wellness Recovery Action Plan (WRAP)programme. This was the beginning of finally getting to grips, accepting and working on making the best of my life. I had been diagnosed stage 4 and indeed my life was chaotic. I'm now living independently in the community and constantly stick to my plan. Not all days are great but that's life. Your videos are have educated me so much and added an extra tools to my 'coping kit' . . Thank you so much and wishing you the best.
Thank you for this message, it really gives hope! I wish you the best 💪
@@LaGrossePaulik Thank you , hope is an integral part of recovery, It's very hard not to be overwhelmed with fear, doubt, guilt, shame and despair. I never thought it possible to manage any of these emotions let alone reel in extremely impulsive and risky behaviours but I'm getting there. I have slips but I don't land so hard these days and best of all I can get back up. Take care and stay strong.
As a young adult (I'm 30), I'm currently struggling with maintaining and having a job. I'm frankly on the 'quiet BPD' side, so it's more about fear of being judged, tendency to dissociate when overwhelmed and huge social anxiety. Yet I admit that I rarely engage in self-harm and substance abuse compared to my 20's. So I feel like my symptoms do change with time, yet I am still badly impaired in my life... for the moment. Note: I've started a DBT course some months ago 💪 I wish everyone the best, we can take control!
@Babbie J thank you 💜 that is really hard for me to tell what I enjoy to do, who I am... I studied speech therapy for 7 years, I only worked for 6 months and felt unable to practice, it's too difficult emotionally. It's okay for me to have another job, even though the peer pressure is high ('but you've a great job!'). I know I shouldn't care, but guilt is still around the corner. It'll change :) also, excuse my poor english
I don’t think you have bpd, it may be something different
Zinila Kovářová dont let peer pressure and guilt hold on to you. Your decisions only have to make you and your life better. You don’t have to be a people pleaser. You are only happy if you do what you need to do. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t avoid hurting others just that what job you do or not do is no one else’s business. Look up a ted talk about not being a people pleaser. It’s okay to not listen to peer pressure or family that means well, but thinks they know what is best for you. Keep telling yourself you have nothing to feel guilty about. You are doing the best you can and doing what is best for you and that is awesome!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@Kabaselefh Sorry to trust the psychiatrist and psychologist who made the diagnosis, and not a comment from someone I don't ask anything on UA-cam.
@@private15 Thank you for your message. Guilt is hell of a pain, and it's hard to make and assume decisions, yet I know 'theorically' that it's the best choice to make. Have a lovely time for the holidays! ❄️
I have been a part-time live in caregiver for a woman with BPD for 2.5 years and she's doing really well. She'll be 45 soon, and when I think back, she's not even the same person. I do admit that she's highly medicated; her medication is under lock and key, so she can't dole out extra. I saw her through probation, (she would have tried to skip out), and I make sure she cleans the house and does her own cooking/chores. It's good for her! I love the lady she has become, but I fear it's only because she is attempting to avoid a group home as she was told to "make it work with Elisa or that's where you're going!"
And now I'm attached to her but I fear that she will eventually be put in a home. Sad. Because she's smart and will understand fully the ramifications of that. 😔
Thank you so much, Dr Grande. 👍🌹 This subject is dear to my heart. 💔 Foolishly, I wanted to save her somehow. 😔
HIPA??
How does one find a care giver for someone with bpd? I've been trying to find resources for myself bc im not functioning in any area of life. I'd describe myself as at least definitely stage 3 or even stage 4 but I'm terrified of being stage 4. I'm hoping he's wrong about all of this and this is all bologna. I really need help how do I find a caregiver like you?
@@ontoyoualways9183 she didn't give any personal details shes not violating anything
@@rebeccasmith4057 If you've found how, please let me know.
I worked with a girl with Bpd, she hated me so bad that each time she will see me she has to push or hit me, I was so confused being new at the job I didn’t know what to do. She manipulated everyone against me, all this because I ignored her and never given her the attention she wanted
I was in a relationship with a man who is bpd. Before I never heard about this condition but during the relationship I realised some behaviour very different and that doesn't make sense so I started to learn about borderline. He left the country and the relationship got better. Then I discovered he was with another person and I was his favourite person, that's why the distance relations was so good than personally. When I finish my duties in my country I went to him to live together and my life became a hell. I discover about cheating, lies, he was aggressive again, yelling all the time and making me feel fear about him all the time. I got depressed and anxious. All the time I have to deal with him my heart bested so fast that looks like I would have a heart attack. So I left him and came to my country back and asked him to seek treatment. We keep the relationship at the distance and he found an ex girlfriend to talk, she became his favourite person now and he gave me silence treatment without any explanation about what he was doing. He wanted to keep both at the same time but when I knew about one more cheating I gave up on him. It hurts a lot because I'm codependent and I miss him like he was before in our relation. But seeing these videos I realised he won't seek help and now he left me because I was asking him to see a doctor. They discard you when you discover their problems and treat you like a real trash to get another person that don't understand what's going on with them. Before you're the love of their life, In a second you become someone that is evil, that is the problem for them. So you realise are alone and without any explanation about what's going on and during the relationship they make you crazy because they say stuff and say they didn't, they do stuff and say they didn't do anything. So you start to question your own sanity. He judged me of cheating, of being prostitute, of using him, to stay with him only for money but he never gave me money. They defame you and they are dissimulated . They abandon you and say they love you and this is a paradox in your mind that make you feel terrible too, how can someone love you and do such thing? So for my painful experience, I advice anyone to run for borderline without treatment because doesn't worth the damage that they let on you. In the end the victim have to take all broken pieces by their own. Just doesn't worth the damage. I'm relief to share my pain that will release myself of this prison.
Loved the video! My psychiatrist talked to me about this change in presentation... And I noticed that, in my case, the symptoms really lessened overall, the crisis are less frequent and I can function much better. Of course a good portion of this development is due to therapy associated with medications. As a medical student, I really like your videos, because they are always based on evidence, clinical experience and research.
Thank you for making these videos Dr.Grande they are more helpful than you know!!
Possible future topic? Regarding the decriminalization of magic mushrooms in Denver and Oakland;
Are the reported effectiveness in relieving symptoms of people diagnosed with depression in terminal cancer patients, substance abuse and anxiety disorders, and PTSD, credible/validated?
Are you in favor of the use of these treatments under supervision of psychiatrry and psychology practitioners?
Thanks ... once again, a clear and accurate message delivered *when it was needed*! That's the part that always blows my mind. Thank you, Dr. Grande!
Thank you soo much for making these bpd videos!! My family doesn’t understand how much these kind of videos have help me! 💚
As a person with this disorder, this video was incredibly interesting and great explanations. Always looking forward to new vids.
Could BPD be contagious by exposure and or learned behavior?
I love your videos, Dr. Grande..I truly appreciate how you speak about bpd without judgement.
I'm sad now. I'm 51. I'm bpd since I can remember... around age4 or 5. I have gone through all the stages. I'm 51 now. Stage 4 is real. I isolate. I'm depressed. I don't think that I will ever recover. I don't work. I have 5 autoimmune illnesses. I hardly engage with anyone except my son who is 20 years old.
🙏🏻Thank you, Dr. Grande🙏🏻Please keep on going with what you do with your videos. Knowledge, insight and compassion abound, not so easy to find these days.
@@marykelly1723 are you any better I’m in isolation now too
So glad you have a son, that's somebody who probably loves you. Similar age, no one shows me any love ... i figured i didn't deserve any, but yes, everyone needs and deserves love ☮️💟
Thank you for helping me understand my own disorder, Dr. Grande. You've given me hope, by showing me how much work I have yet to do. I can do it. I had no hope for a while and almost found myself at the end of my rope for a long time.
Thank you for your work and study and presentation in understanding people that suffer from this. Hopefully people in the future can receive the most optimal support.
Omg, Dr. Grande just validated me.
That was a joke.
Stage 4 53 year old and thank you for explaining how symptoms change this has confused me and my therapist is useless in understanding this. Weekly emotional life counseling for a person with BPD is useless long term at least for me. Your videos have been a great support tool for me. Thank you.
I would like to ask you Dr. Grande, if you will consider doing some videos on issues such as the overlapping of Covert Narcissistic traits with respect to BPD, Projective Identification etc. My psychiatrist has been brilliant in helping me to deal with these issues as well and because I think you are SO incredibly gifted in your grasp and ability to explain these issues, perhaps you can provide even better insight?? Thank you so much Dr. You’ve helped me immeasurably. 🥰
Dr. Grande, thank you 😃🇳🇱
Thank you for putting this information out to everyone. 🌳🍂🍁 I enjoy this topic.
Wow. My new favorite video ♥️
Interesting. Never heard of bpd in these terms. Thanks Dr. G
Knowledge keeps the naive from absorbing all the intentionally destructive actions. With this knowledge and once you have made it known that attacking someone that has been nothing but kind to somehow relieve the disorder will not be tolerated. Sacrificing yourself is not required. Must have the ability to walk away.
Very interesting video, as usual, so thanks for the effort to produce it. I find the possible shifts in behaviour such that the presentation is not captured by the DSM IV diagnostic criteria very interesting. This change over time makes me think particularly about the video you did on the core of BPD, which I also thought was excellent: an important meta-mathematical principle (sorry to be referring here to one of my major research topics but I hope you'll bear with me) is that when you are dealing with complex uncertain systems, you have to find underlying unchanging symmetry properties that hold in the system you want to understand, and these are captured mathematically as invariant conditions. I just re-watched the core of BPD video in light of the possibility that this core should constitute just such an invariant; indeed, if it isn't invariant then it would not be much of a 'core'.
If the person with bpd doesn't receive early intervention like DBT therapy, likely life long health problems can result. How do I know this, a person I know with classic bpd symptoms for years has now developed immune problems
Btw Another great topic. One good answer to a long time question. I never thought id hear the question muchless a responce to ever come.
Dr. Grande im 45 and i just started DBT. What do you think of this therapy? Ive needed to hear what your saying for a long time.
DBT is a just a type of CBT which this channel spoke of before in this video.
ua-cam.com/video/oSeTn9KuY58/v-deo.html
Perhaps also consider the topics of 'Repetition compulsion' and 'Transitional object bpd ' .
Self disclosure I am not a trained medical professional ;-)
I would be interested as well with this specific subject 👍
I know a little about DBT and compared to other therapy forms, I probably was most impressed by DBT, like subjectively spoken the "highest form of the art". I've seen therapists using DBT techniques on patients and it was very impressive.
How are you now? Has it worked?
Thank you.. I didn't know about the stages.. keep it up! Xoxo
You are quite welcome!
Thank you to your videos and thank you to UA-cam I have better understanding of myself I can't imagine going through life understanding why things aren't falling in place ..maybe I have a little bit of time to work with to correct some things and have a better life
Dr grande thanks for spreading valuable professional information about mental health,would you evaluate to make a video about gender disphoria?
I think it is increased exponentially in the last twenty years ....
thanks a lot for believing that sharing it is a benefit for all humans which want to learn
Do you know what is “crazy“? That I struggle almost daily and others are in denial and expect me to be perfect and see me as a perfect person that cannot fail. This video is truthful but I found it so in discouraging. I have to say, with God (Jesus), I have learned to get through despite how I feel and with joy. Sometimes it feels as if I have two people living inside of me. I am also bipolar. Can you please do some videos that cover the spiritual side of mental illness?
Angela L The “spirit” is your mind. Psychiatric recovery is precisely the same as spiritual recovery. These spiritual maladies have been created over periods of generations of “sin” or maladaptive behaviors inconsistent with Gods will for us. It’s the human condition and these doctors are very much doing God’s healing work and helping us every bit as much as any pastor or minister, or Rabbi. They use medical terminology however, the terms are absolutely interchangeable. All the best to you and God bless you.🙏🏻
Fall Leaves 💜🙂
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Nothing wrong with dying, as long as it's quick.
My 1st husband refused all meds and treatment. By age 60 his functioning got worse. He was demoted. At age 62 he was asked to retire early. The last 4 years he became like a zombie. Depressed and not eating. suicidal...2x specialist docters could find nothing wrong. At 62 he had a heart attack unexpected, and died. I never knew what was wrong with him until last 2 years watching u tube....I had to be treated for anxiety and depression because of stressful life with him. He was well studies, two B degrees, B ed and B com, then honours and M com. Very intelligent, but emotionally a nightmare
I can finally say, my BPD is fading, and for the first time in my life I feel like a normal person. I always felt like an outsider, that everyone else just understood something about life that I couldn't. I couldn't understand how people just dealt with their feelings and moved through life... finally, I get it. I feel like a regular human. I can function, my relationships with others feel easier and pleasurable instead of full of anxiety. I feel amazing. Healing is wonderful and a good therapist is immeasurably valueble.
What was the cause for the improvement?
@@NogGonnaMakeIt CBT.
I highly suggest looking up a UA-cam account called mr. bpd, he claims to have bpd. He has over 300 videos he says to watch so people can observe his behavior and thoughts, he even does hallucinogens and records himself. From what I’ve seen he is erratic in his actions and thoughts but is conscious of when he does them at times, and then shows that he can reflect on them in the video.
Well that sounds horrible :(
case in point, I am your stage 4 case
yyayyyy another video
I was diagnosed at about 15, my mom tried her best with me but after a few years of hell I moved out with a boyfriend and forgot all about it. I'm 37 now and somehow by the grace of God (and a husband of 11 yrs who adores me) I'm alive... but I'm a mess. I've been hyper-aware of my disease and almost consumed by the recognition of my symptoms, as psychology happens to be an interest of mine, but have been unsuccessful at any attempt at change. I've lived more than 20 years with untreated bpd, I'm pretty sure stage 4 exists.
I've been in therapy for 14 years, and would be considered likely Stage 3 (?)
You make it sound so serious
Dear Dr. Grade,
Thank you very much for your informative clip first. Could you please advice me as a close and an intimate friends of a wonderful mature woman, who has been suffering from BPD for long time?
How should we behave in front of her when any one of BPD' s 9 Traits happens?
I believe these patients have a profound negative effects on their close friends and specially on bringing up their children.
Who should legally take responsibility in this regard and train the close relatives of these patients to prevent more harm to these patients and their children, relatives, and friends in North America countries?
Thanks again,
I’m in the 4 th stage
After 10 years of therapy, my mental illness is still very much alive and kicking XD but I do think that I am better now than I ever was, the progress is just annoyingly slow
First diagnosis of DPD at 21 now 49 and diagnosis of DID, have you ever heard of a disorder changing/adapting?
My remission only lasted a year when I was 29 to I was about 30. Then it came reading back full force and I'm turning 32 this year. I am in therapy and I take my meds but I am so tired of doing this. I don't want this. I just wish I could disappear sometimes. 😪
I am definitely stage 3 or 4. For sure.
How are you doing? 😕
recently self diagnosed q-borderline pd // older lady with asd & gad traits ... here with no financial means to obtain help (but thanks to this video it looks futile anyway) / i either starve or eat poorly
why are we wired wrong, why did cptsd get added to the mix, why did other traumas get thrown in along the way, why is suffering so bad now, why can't we fix this, why can't there be more compassion toward this ailment instead of all the demonizing (i'm mot violent in anyway, i also don't yell at people or call them bad names), why can't there be better or more effective treatment, why can't i get out of my own head and enjoy life like other people ???????
i'm afraid to quit my crap job (low pay, high stress) due to my age - i am unattractive lady, alopecia, immune problems, allergies, old, shy, a little passive aggressive when triggered by what i consider to be an injustice - no one will hire me - i can't even support myself - i live in someone's basement (it's nice) but i feel like a rodent, luckily cheap rent, live paycheck to paycheck, stuck, lonely, depressed, insomniac, anxious ...
the cherries atop are now discouragement and hopelessness ... i'm even sadder now after watching this video ...
Its been hinted I might have unstable personality disorder and I've been given medicine called Aripiprazol. How exactly does this condition affect my life and what should I expect from the medicine? So far I've stopped playing excessively, I socialize more and I'm constantly feeling as if I should be on the move. One of the negative effects so far is that my face is kinda numb. Before I was very expressive, but now I'm stone-faced if I don't consciously try to be more expressive.
All I can say Is RESEARCH YOUR MEDS.. my old dr nearly killed me
As in not recognizing trough levels.. not knife in hand 😂
Some symptoms change depending on what part of the life cycle you're in and some symptoms stay the same throughout.
Some sort of visual graph could be nice time to time.
Can BPD be co-morbid with NPD?
Hmmm Mmm... Would you like to meet my mother...
I feel like I hit the stage 3 you described while in a 3 year relationship with a man who may showed traits of NPD and perhaps BPD. I became as toxic as him. It was a gong show.
we need automatic captions please!! 🤗
I have trouble with hearing but he is quite clear.
You can turn them on. I'm looking at them right now.
Thank you, Dr G! I've been waiting a long time for this topic. I've often wondered when professionals say that BPD dissipates with age, whether they know if it actually turns into something else (like SAD or Avoidance? I'm 59 and my BPD has never really gone away.
I have been diagnosed with bdp at 18 , at 13 years old I just wanted to die and got frustrated when people stepped in prevented me from killing myself and self harmed as mad bid to kill myself that way . I had voices telling that I didn't belong in this world and other negative things . I have been in and out of hospital few times , plus a couple of residential homes that don't really deal with bdp but kept me safe during long bad spells . Long good spells I am quite very hyperfocused on enjoying life and being very successful and productive and independent. I don't fear abomoment but choose not be in involved romantically with anyone others know my problems can impact on others and I don't and never have black or white opinions. I been on medication and had whatever therapy for condition I can't relate too that is often over generalised and badly stigmatised and discriminates in society . My illness hits me out of the blue like speeding trian with little warning. I am thankful for the interventions I had but I don't feel my diagnosis really helps at all with treatments or help people / professionals to understand the issues I go through with the symptoms and how it just knocks me off my feet and drags me under. The world is really not equipped to deal with my problems and not enough science fully to understand it . I would never ask for a cure but crave for a eternal peace for illness that puts me and my loves through more hell and back then cancer would with added bonus of being untreatable and problem to society . I just pray that I never be one of those that silently slips through the net at some point in the future.
Geez!! Thanks!! I guess those with BPD should just give up!!
Ontoyou Always see dr. Daniel Fox’s videos on UA-cam. He is an expert specifically on BPD. I think you’ll feel encouraged.
He's an expert on personality disorders in general, not on BPD specifically.
... I find Celebrating Mardi Graw / Halloween - being 'The Worst' in terms of trying to play a BLAME GAME with folks that will say, 'Devil Made me do it.' ... or 'Awh, look what you made me do ?!'
Is it possible that the disorder progression you describe is a syndrome manifested in the patient, in treatment , by mentally ill people around them (like family members, co-workers, ex spouses, grown children etc.); whom torture and taunt the emotionally disturbed target, in treatment ,because they can get away with abusing and exploiting their already compromised target?
I have observed this progression in a friend going through a horrible divorce from a cop.
She was kind of covertly murdered by this man who used his badge and blue wall of silence to drive her insane
I have further decompensated as I am being exploited and abused by my family because of my mental health status, disability and financial dependence upon my abusers
I have called 16 agencies to put an end to the abusive behavior towards me, but the moment they hear your mental status they just tell you to take your meds
Gang stalking hate crime against disabled family members is apparently legal and perps are protected by the police department
I believe the minute a traumatized patient presents that the state should mandate family counseling to figure out who are the actually mentally ill individuals really are and whom are the emotionally disturbed victims of their collective pathological abuse , which is, of coarse, normalized amoung the abusers, the truly mentally ill people
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Please advise
How can we imagine the relationship between a borderline man and avoidant woman????
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I think I have BPD/HPD Comorbid (I’ve done my research) I’m just worried if I finally can afford a therapist that they’d just think I’m being silly
Well this is disheartening. Ex roommate has this, can't accept that he's the problem, everything is someone else's fault.
Seems like he's only going to get worse, especially without treatment.
I wish u could be my therapist!
Loving someone as a partner who has this disorder puts you in an impossible bind of either controlling them (not healthy love in my opinion) or being burned in the fires they make. You will need therapy for yourself and the relationship will fail in one way or another with many deep wrongs done to you. Do not be arrogant enough to think that you can stop the tide. Young men : (BPD is higher in women). This will greatly diminish or ruin your life. It is beyond your ability to help with healthy love and will eat away at your natural protectiveness. Don't get involved. But I know you won't heed the warnings... Things change but they don't get better and the warped reality you must construct will scar you, perhaps irrevocably. You must put on your mask first before securing another's.
How do you separate cause and effect, or is it always the same? Wouldn't a lacking treatment efficacy indicate poor understanding of the development?
This is my mother. I watched the development and appreciate the irreversibility. That's because her personality is a "disorder" rather than an understanding of developmentally acquired behavior, thoughts and personality. I don't understand how early missed opportunity for intervention, resulting in long term chronic mental illness, is regarded as a disorder... I'm very ignorant but at a glance, labeling this thing seems like an insult to the condition and almost feels contradicting to clinical efforts while simultaneously taunting the patient, in the way someone slips deeper into psychosis both by (and from) the behavior of others, ignorant to the damage done.
I don't think anyone is wrong, but I can't really tell if anyone is "doing it right", whatever the hell that means. There's a gap here someone like myself needs to bridge, who can see mental illness from both sides. Stuck in the middle, it's very challenging to find a mentor, and maybe that's the problem with mental illness.
Where does the BPD name come from? Borderline what?
borderline personality disorder
On the border between neurotic and psychotic
It's an outdated name, created in 1938--it refers to being on the borderline between psychosis and neurosis. BPD is still the name used in our current Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of mental health disorders (DSM 5). In the ICD-10 (International Classification of Diseases) used by the World Health Organization, "Borderline Personality Disorder" is called "Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder." I find EUPD to be a more apt term.
@@SensitiveSage Thanks for the reply. I meant the borderline part.
@@wabi_sabi52 Thank you!
I'm 40 in January and seem to be getting worse.
So sorry to hear this my girlfriend is bordeline ,and wish I could wave a magic wand XX
With all due respect this sucks. I have been diagnosed with this disorder.
I have only been learning about the clinical perspective
I don’t relate too everything. I stopped looking at my parents as a model and from 16 onward i raised myself early on to be most like people i admire and respect
Using my grandmother as my higher power. Knowing what she said was always best.
I need help finding a professional.
I was abanded by my violent alcohol parents
To Metropolitan State Hospital Gaebler school for children (prison$
I was also elected to public office to my astonishment twoce once in a peer election.
I don’t see the value others do in me.
This is bad. I really would appreciate it if you could direct me to someone in my State.
Im 48 and frankly i just inherited a 1/4 mill house
from the passing of my grandmother. And want to know if i can recover. Maybe fully.
Because this sucks.
I already know you are right about the mortality of stress disorderd people
I have no kids. And i simply want to get better.
ThankYou
B.I. MacDonald see Dr. Daniel Fox on UA-cam. He’s an expert in the area of BPD. If you want to learn about CPTSD read Pete Walker’s book, it’s excellent.
Birdsong funny. I just saw a video he made. Im so glad my perception isn’t one that takes everything personally.
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I just wonder if animals have their own subset of psych disorders
My dog has a fear of abandonment. Every time I leave, she thinks it’s the last so she goes crazy when I’m around. Then again, I left her so many times for months at a time. Then I had my first childhood dog at 3 years old who died from missing me and my siblings when we moved out of our grandparents’ home
Wendy Mcreynollds my dog has CPTSD. It’s completely obvious.
It exists . I have it. No way out
I feel the same. Im in therapy but this pain just doesn't stop, i have a feeling it doesn't help. Still not able to get along with people normally
Was married to one...all symptoms, 36 years. Rages...shallow, lazy, always sick, unreliable, bad temper when il, irresponsible l. Became psychotic at about 57...sat with eyes fixed on TV for hours. Depressed, bipolar., did not talk to anyone, was asked to go on early pension.at his work..Fortunately no addictions, but addicted to sex. Showed interest in men too. Often suicidal. Once I had to pack and leave with children, I suspected he would kill the family....before he died from heart attsck at age 62, he told me I was like a mother to him. Psychologically difficult to live with.
If I knew what I know now, I would have divorced from him early in marraige
This reminds me of a well known friend of the family.
He died because of a heart attack after getting into a fight over a parking lot.
He was only fifty years old.
Im sorry to hear that ❤
sarah vand
Thank you dear
Bipolar is alot harder to manage. I would take a borderline anyday. They need lots of love with boundaries established. Some of these people are highly educated.
Ha, I'm so glad I'm Bipolar. Take a pill and I'm good. Y'all have to fight your minds and disordered thinking everyday for the rest of your life. Don't even.
Hi! Your videos are really interesting, but maybe your delivery is a bit boring, I’m sure you’d have a lot more views if you work on that 😄👍🏻
I am in hell right now.
Same.
When I was six years old my stepmother left me in a doorway with a note saying not wanted...
We have a sister, now 70, with BPD. Her entire life has been a train wreck. I remember her as a teenager unable to engage in a life plan or any plan at all. She would always wind up “ at home “ with my parents. My parents, unfortunately for us, seemed to think we should rally around her to support her. No amount of support impacted her neediness.
(( stage 4 cancer - exists.)) why not that ?
BPD always reminds me that there is no god watching over us.
I don't think it's irreversible to be honest.