I'm glad you said "thought of something being evil", because evil most certainly does not exist, except as a damning statement of something we dont like. That said, you can all now call me evil, due to the fact that I find very little wrong with the possibility of the real world experiment.
Blue Diesel Very often there is no current answer to a question, and learning the fact that there is no answer is telling you something and is the answer.
Aicy Yes, however the video is a "bait and switch". The title implies they have the answer. Most of what they say is common knowledge. Almost all the video is "fluff" filler material, like the guy who tried injecting sperm in to apes. It was obviously not going to work, and it brings us no where closer to an answer. That part constituted at least 30% of the video, whilst something like that should only really be a footnote.
+AgentWashingtub As attractive as you might find the lady chimps, let me just warn you that chimps are capable of tearing off appendages,.... and in fact they frequently target and remove the genitalia of their victims, (by remove I really mean mutilating it and ripping it off lol), if they get angry enough to attack. So I wouldn't recommend just breaking into the zoo for a booty call, it might be wise to at least buy her dinner first lol.
A hybrid between a chimp and a human would potentially be a superhuman. Think about it. The muscle density and dexterity of a chimp with the stature and intelligence of a human.
SciShow "doing this is literally the definition of evil". Comments "yeah but... It is an interesting question, maybe if we found a nicer way to do it?" For once, I may have to side with the community.
Comments aren't "Yeah but... It is an interesting question, maybe if we found a nicer way to do it?". Comments are literally "who gives a fuck lol just do it"
Sean Gray I'm fully aware of artificial insemination. The reason these people are sick is because their morbid curiosity outweighs their moral judgement. With no real theory to test or scientific objective in mind other than to "see what happens", you'd have to be a pretty fucking sick person to advocate for this.
QueenVoltalia I'd choose to not interbreed with primates. Here's why: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_bottleneck#Humans Humanity has faced bottlenecks before and got along just fine. "A 2005 study from Rutgers University theorized that the pre-1492 native population of the Americas are the descendants of only 70 individuals who crossed the land bridge between Asia and North America"
As much as I agree that creating a human/chimp hybrid would be incredibly immoral, I have a very intense curiosity about what its appearance, intelligence and behavior would be like. Judging by the other comments here and from discussions with others about the topic, it seems like I'm definitely not the only one. I feel like it's inevitably going to happen at some point in the future as human morals only hold up for so long. I wonder though, can no theoretical research be done on the topic? As in using our knowledge of other hybrid animals to come to some sort of conclusion about what a humanzee would be like? That may at least partially satisfy all of our morbid curiosities.
I think it could be done and would if allowed, though not like you might think. I am talking about petri dish birth. I know it would suck for the kid involved but... idk I am evil ig.
@@texanarchy666 the smarter black Africans made them to be used as slaves. When they got too wild and unruly, they were sold to other countries and races.
Can't we just see if conception is possible? You could destroy the zygote immediately afterward...If conception is possible it's likely a live hybrid is too, although it could be too deformed to be carried to term I guess...
***** Of course, although abortion is considerably less controversial where I'm from. Besides, relatively few people actually believe life starts the second of conception. Most object to abortion when the fetus is further along and has the beginnings of limbs and a nervous system...etc.
@@merrymachiavelli2041 usually within the first 40 days is considered ok. Once the heart is formed and it cycles at least ONE TIME then it's considered life. Until then it's just cells replicating. Not fully even formed. Nothing more than like bacteria spreading.
@@merrymachiavelli2041 Who told you? Virtually all embryology textbooks teaches that human life begins at conception and this is backed up by various surveys conducted on Biologists. At the academic level, the whole abortion debate is mostly not about whether human life begins at conception, it's mostly about the morality of "murder" and the question of "why do humans have value?"
I don't think is anywhere near the definition of evil. As long as you treat it with respect and care for it whats the evil part? We've cross bred horses and donkeys to create the mule? No one looked at that as immoral or evil, mules were actually very useful.
Schwarzer Ritter Moral standards are up for debate. There are some rational arguments against cannibalism - but on the other hand isn't an organ transplant a form of cannibalism? Also note that the primary reason there's no human meat in supermarkets is that it's wrong to kill innocent humans against their will. And the humans who die anyway would not provide meat of proper quality. The rest is arbitrary and cultural - i.e. I wouldn't mind if something useful was made out of my body after I stop using it. Plant fertilizer for a new tree would be nice an poetic. I'm still waiting for anything less arbitrary then "it's wrong because it's wrong". Personal revulsion or arbitrary moral standards do not constitute an argument - i.e. I find an idea (well... not idea per se... but how it would look) of two gay man together quite revolting, but that's my personal reaction and I think it would be immoral to persecute homosexuals or deny them the right to happiness thus I'm very for gay rights.
andrzej2501 Of course it's wrong to kill humans against their will. Because there are different moral standards for humans than for animals. Talking about moral standards. For many people (personally I think these people are assholes) you are a homophobe and worse than Hitler. That you don't march on anti-gay activist demonstrations isn't enough, you have to be enthusiastic they are gay.
andrzej2501 This cognitive ability is the reason we can't just breed monkeymen. We can't just keep them prisoner, can't release them in the wild and they couldn't be part of society. This is the social justice age; tolerance isn't good enough anymore. Look at those pizza people.
Schwarzer Ritter Well, the hybrid would either be on the level of a chimpanzee or below (and the same rules could be applied), could be on the level of humans or above - and why not let them join the society, or could be somewhere between and could be treated as we treat retarded humans. We will face the issue sooner or later - either with biological or electronic AIs. BTW: have you ever read the Uplift War series by David Brin? What about pizza people?
Go ahead and try out things that are commonly described as evil. If you are successful you will be a considered a superhero if not your life will be ruined.
You spend a lot of time saying "this is evil" and only a short amount of time explaining exactly why. A lot of people are going to come away from this thinking their inherent squeamishness about the process is justified because Hank Green said it's evil, but "because it's gross" is not the reason this is a bad idea. "Because it will quite likely result in suffering intelligent life" is. We - by which I mean, people who make videos like this - really need to emphasise more the reasons behind why some things are bad. Making a human-chimp hybrid is not bad because it's gross. That's really just an opinion. It's bad because the offspring will likely suffer greatly, and if it's intelligent, that's a really asty thing to do to any life form. That's the bit you need to put focus on. Yes, you explain this in the video. But like I said - briefly. You overfocus on the "ew, gross and evil".
He simplified it for the sake of simplicity. Obviously there is more to the whole "it is evil" dilemma. "Evil" is subjective and in science it is hard to achieve great breakthroughs when you worry about emotional rationale, because science is the hard, concrete reality of how life works not how we should be politically correct.
@Ellie Marie A zebroid can’t question its own existence and it doesn’t suffer psychologically because it’s different. We also don’t grant zebras or horses the rights that we do humans. You can’t just create humans as lab experiments, so why something that’s half human?
The bonobo formerly called the pygmy chimpanzee and less often, the dwarf or gracile chimpanzee, is an endangered great ape and one of the two species making up the genus Pan ; the other is Pan troglodytes, or the (common) chimpanzee. Although the name "chimpanzee" is sometimes "used" to refer to both species together, it is usually understood as referring to the common chimpanzee, whereas Pan paniscus is usually referred to as the bonobo. Got it from wiki. both are chimpanzee just not the same type like us. we are members of Hominina clade so we are human but were not the only type of human to have lived sooooo yes bonobos are chimpahnzees just not a pan troglodytes which is the common Chimpahnzees oh and they can mate with each other and make offspring soooo yeah to me they are both chimps just little different from each other but not just a similar ape to each other
We are not more closely related to bonobos than chimps. Bonobos and chimps split a few dozen years ago. This was after they split from humans. We are equally related to both.
No you didnt. I'd why you all say the exact same thing many years down the line. U literally didn't do any of those things like AT ALL. Very dramatic and lying just to convey you liked a video...cringey
Human chromosome 2 is a result of a telomere fusion with which looks like to be a fusion with chimp chromosomes 13 and 14, later named 2a and 2b, due to their similarity with human chromosome 2 . Because of that, there could be viable offspring if someone would happen to make a head-to-head telomere fusion with the chimp chromosomes 13 (2a) and 14 (2b) (while disabling the centromere from the other fused chromosome) to form an egg cell containing 23 chromosomes and then inserting a human sperm cell inside, or vice versa. Since sperm cells also contain mitochondria in their "tails", one would have to remove it first to avoid complications. Not saying that it should be done, just saying it could be possible now days...
Morals aren't based on religion...its based on human dignity and respect. 😑 if you don't understand the difference, well we don't want stupid to spread.
+TheShoreman1 Because if it had a sentient mind was sterile as most likely then it would be alone and a freak of nature which because it might have speech and learning capacity similar to a child do you want to be the one to tell it that? That is was made for our curiosity, not out of love or by accident but just because we wondered what would happen.
Q: How do we know that some of our DNA is Neanderthal DNA, and not just DNA that we and Neanderthals *share* from a common ancestor? Also, are we Humanderthals, or Neanderthumans? Who woke up next to whom?
Neanderthals would still be human, heck if Vulcans, Romulans and Klingons existed they would be humans. Do Star Trek Deep Space 9: Cardassians descend from Kardasians is that a scary thought?
***** Yes, but it's more important for us as humans to advance the human race than to be human. In fact, that is basically the whole idea of being human. Anyways, why not do it? There is no reason, based on logic and science, that it is bad to do this. So I say do it.
Bränd Mórder Thats what Hitler believed too, nearly word for word. (in regards the nazi human tests being done during WW2) You are one horribly immoral man...but most of me takes your side. Knowledge splits from the "non-morality" once the public forgets, doesnt care, becomes numb to, or just just doesnt know how the knowledge came to be.
rickie lowman Immoral? Maybe, and what I said was sort of unexplained. What I mean is that humans evolve and adapt to certain situations, but natural selection only works for so long. Once you reach the point where your intelligence and physical traits don't determine whether you live or die (unlike 100 thousand or so years ago, when you had to have certain traits to survive, and only people with those traits lived and reproduced), we aren't evolving at all. In fact, no matter how stupid someone is, it is still highly likely that they will reproduce, and their genes would be passed on, and in a sense, the human race is currently devolving. We are also devolving because of our reliance on tools and technology. So now, because natural selection isn't going to improve the human race (for the most part), any more, it is our responsibility as humans to advance the human race. Basically, because there are no environmental demands that cause us to improve so we can survive more easily, we should improve in other ways, or improve that area ourselves. In terms of improving ourselves, (again, a loss of natural selection also means that our collective DNA will degrade over time due to a build up of negative mutations [harmful mutations are much more common than beneficial ones]). Eugenics is the solution. We can direct our own evolution, the possibilities are endless. And this includes not only morphological variation, but neurological as well! Oh, and by the way, the eugenics programs in Germany were not the first. Germany actually used the eugenics programs in California in the 1930's as an example. (of course eventually Germany went way overboard) I don't mean that it should be done by sterilization though, but through genetic engineering/modification. I mean that on animals and plants, not humans (yet). I'm not for unnecessary/unethical treatment of humans, but even though it could have a major cost right now, it would make the future great. What's the loss of one human life, compared to the enrichment of millions? It could, in time, if something terrible were to happen, save the human race (as a virus/disease that infects some people won't effect others with different genes). If we have more immunizes, we are more likely to survive as a race, right? So we could wait millions of years and just see what happens, or we could do the same amount of evolution that those millions of years would do in 100, and control the genetic mutations so that they only have a positive effect, and we would be so much better as a species because of it. People might say it's unethical, but what if we created clones that didn't have nerves (couldn't feel pain), and weren't conscious (so it's like they never were alive at all, so it's not like you're harming a living thing, it's like doing genetic modification on a plant, except the data we would get from doing that would be relevant in humans, and we could use that data to improve the human species). So my thinking is that we definitely should do it, but do it in the most ethical way possible, while still improving the human species.
***** Plenty of fish live deep in the ocean. Aside from that, our intelligence isn't increasing in the slightest. Our knowledge of the world is, but not our intelligence. Intelligence is more about our ability to think, not the knowledge we have that accumulated over time. The only reason it may seem that way is because of overpopulation, there's a lot of smart people doing great things in science right now, but there's also alot of stupid people who do nothing and add nothing to society at all. Some tools are okay to rely on, I understand that, but we really shouldn't use them to accomplish what people can normally accomplish on their own. What happens when a meteor hits earth the human race is practically wiped out, and we lose our tools? We go from the top of the food chain to near the bottom. What would we have left? I mean, look at the obesity "epidemic". We don't need to be thin and limber to survive anymore, so now we're all getting fat. When we lose all that that is guarding us, we have nothing. Usage of hand sanitizer has been linked to peanut allergies. That's because we have stuff that blocks it out, but as a consequence, we lose our immunities. We either regulate our development ourselves, or we get rid of our tools. How do you know that a species might not be able to soar above the clouds? If we evolve ourselves into superhumans that can do all those things, then it is possible. we could have wings, we could have oxygen deposits in our bodies so we could go without breathing for 30 mins, we could do so much. I'm just scratching the surface here. We could manually eradicate the genes that are linked to cancer, and other diseases, I'm just scratching the surface, we could do so much more, but we never really know what we can do with it until we try, so why not?
***** The average intelligence? Now that I think about it, you are actually right. Young children who's brains are still developing are exposed to more knowledge, (intelligence is your ability to comprehend knowledge). If you train a child to be able to do that, of course they are going to be more intelligent. That is because of our interference with people's development, not caused by sitting around and doing nothing. It's true that dumber people are louder, I agree on that, but there are lots of stupid, ignorant people in the world. Again, I'm not saying to completely abandon tools, but to not use tools as a replacement for what we can already do, but rather as a way to extend what we already can do even further. We shouldn't rely on them so much that we are useless without them. The reason I think people are devolving is because of genetic mutations that have negative effects circulating through us. For example, cancer causing genes. I agree with alot of what you said, but you really didn't understand what I meant. I do realize that what I was getting into with wings and that stuff was pretty much fiction and fantasy, but it could possibly happen. We just have to find out a way. I could also see why there's no reason to. I never said get rid of technology and tools, I just think we shouldn't lose what we already have for that.
The created creature cannot give consent and will definitely be sentient, having to live a life of extreme hardship and genetic problems so it can be studied just because we wanted to see what would happen. It's cruel to whatever we would end up making. Doing these kinds of things with lower intelligence creatures is one thing, but when you get to human level you've stepped in a huge gray zone. Individual gene editing in intelligent animals I think is fine, but merging two different species into one is way beyond that and it's irresponsible.
There are many things people do that we probably shouldn't do. I'm not saying I'd do it. But let's face it. At least half of our lives are spent looking the other way. If someone were to do it, we'd condemn it. But at the same time you can't tell me that it would blow everyone's mind if it worked.
I never understood the moral argument behind this. I don't know maybe I'm just a terrible person but I would be totally okay with creating one of these creatures if anything just to observe them and see what their behavior would be like. And I feel like a lot can be learned through this. I'm no scientist I'm no scientist but if you give me a bunch of sedated female chimps and a turkey baster I'll do it
The moral issue with doing this is that there is a strong chance the hybrid would possess human level intelligence. Due to it's appearance that will no doubt be somewhat nightmarish it would be ostracized from both human and possibly even chimpanzee society. Basically, it would be an individual like me and you who isn't accepted by anyone and would be isolated in a lab it's whole life. I think you can figure out why that's incredibly immoral. Not to mention the creature is still 50% human and we can all agree that no human being, regardless of appearance should be raised in a lab their whole life.
Adam Colon It would take us way longer than that. You’d have to perfectly replicate every part of each component’s DNA. We’ve only accomplished coding small organisms.
I am shocked by all the people advocating this in the comments. "For science" is not a good reason to bring a sentient, sapient and intelligent creature into a miserable existence just to keep it in a lab and study it, even if it's "only just once". There are tons of other issues that might rise to, such as the possibility of health issues and deformity, or the question of if it has human rights.
+Zachmacf To be fair, the same could be said for bringing any child into this world. Who's to say that the being once produced would have a miserable existence, let alone that it would be sapient and intelligent? We have no proof that it would be, or that it might not become a better species than human in the long run. The fact is we don't know anything until we try, so anything you put forward is all conjecture. Any ethics associated with said conjecture is unfounded due to this lack of the knowledge of any and all possible outcomes.
+lowercase21 They said the same thing about electricity and studying STD's. Science doesn't exist in a vacuum and you cannot know the possible benefits prior to experimentation and exploration. It could be possible that a chimp human hybrid could produce antibodies for fighting AIDS, cancer or any number of other diseases. It could bring greater understanding of the brain and its functions by having a halfway point to compare between humans and chimps. The possibilities are potentially limitless, and we won't know until we try.
Femsplainer I suppose I can't always know the benefits, but I don't think that's a good reason to do something that could potentially be really, really messed up. Even if there is benefits however, I'm not sure I'd still be able to approve of that sort of experimentation. They'd have to be REALLY good benefits, and I'm not confident that a chimp/human hybrid will bring us a new cure for cancer. If you do something because of that train of logic, and the results are disastrous, would it still be justified? When is the risk too much to take? I see plenty of risk in this experiment. If this was someone putting themselves at risk, I wouldn't see that as a problem - but when it comes to putting another living creature at risk, even if its simply by bringing them into existence, that's where it gets morally sketchy.
Please explain the benefits to this. We aren't in the past I'm not a close minded idiot I'm all for furthering science. I'm okay if a full grown man consents to being experimented on but that never happens why? bc grown adults know their lives will be on the line so why should we experiment on our offspring?? Bc it's not our lives. we are being selfish and cowardly with science. Look at the creators of the A-bomb they instantly regretted what they made. A famous man once said "the keys that will open the gates to heaven are the same keys that will open the gates to hell" we need to be intelligent not act intelligent.
I didn't hear any arguments WHY creating such a hybrid would be "evil". Personally I don't like the idea but I have no purely rational arguments against it and there are quite a few arguments for the idea - i.e. to study how sentience works and what genes are responsible for developing our cognitive abilities (and maybe to tweak them a little bit to increase them?)
According to evolution as you know it. It should be possible. We should definitely test this just to see if the pregnancy is possible. The answer is very important as it can change science or religion as we know it.
What so many people in this comment section don't get: this thing that we could potentially create COULD. BE. SENTIENT. It might be able to think and be self-aware the same way we do, and it'd be treated like a lab rat its entire life. How could anyone in their right mind subject someone to that?
It's worth it for science. It's not like it really matters, it's just a random animal. For better or worse, I also consider humans to be just another random animal, so take that as you will. Ethics get in the way of science constantly. I think it would be best if that weren't the case, or at least ethics were followed to a lesser extent. So many things could've been discovered years ago had we just tried, but instead morals get in the way. If you're so concerned about it suffering, just kill it as soon as the experiment is done. In doing so, you kill the memory of the events along with the test subject, obviously, and if the subject doesn't remember it, and isn't alive to suffer from the effects, it's essentially like it never happened at all from that subject's perspective.
yes and no, you are curious and unaware of the deeply moral issues surrounding the topic. How will the parents raise the hybrid, would they? will it be treated like an animal or a person, how much cognitive function will it have? It will never have a free existence because it simply will be a lab rat most of its life. if you want to willing create a being with so much potential for medical errors and emotional ones to the thing, you are evil. I personally feel like maybe if the species were just as intelligent as us, it wouldn't be so wrong.
Not so fast, Hank. While I agree that from the human perspective, a manpanzee (yes, I will forever use that wonderful word) is all bad. It amounts to deliberately creating a human with severe developmental problems. Not good at all. BUT you are not thinking about this from the chimpanzee perspective. For the chimp it is pretty much all good. Sure, he would probably lose a lot of physical strength, but in exchange for a massive increase in intelligence? That's a no-brainer (haha). Think about it this way, suppose a human had a chance to breed with a super-advanced alien producing an offspring ten times smarter than a normal human. Wouldn't that be a good thing for humanity? Leapfrogging millions of years of evolution? Of course. So, in short, if you care about chimpanzees, you will breed with them.
In reality what we call sapience is actually better sociability in my opinion. Our consciousness, intelligence and the fact our brains run on emotion are simply due to our lineage evolving to become even more social than our ancestors, stressors likely being the same that changed our bodies to become more of a running ape than a climbing ape, the loss of tree cover in the African Savannah leaving us in groups on the cold cold ground which were forced to hunt in the Savannah instead of forage in the jungle. Our intelligence allows us to predict others and provide for others better, strengthening relationships. This culminated in our nice well-lit metropolises. That's my two cents anyways.
Yetis might have been silver back gorillas before people knew what gorillas were. Unicorns are one horned rhinoceros of India not some animal resembling a cross between narwhal and horse.
Your disclaimer was definitely my favorite part of this video. There's no reason why we can't continue to discuss these things just because we have collectively placed ethical barriers on actually doing them.
see... even as you told me it was evil I still felt the urge to do it. I really love this channel because it discusses things i can't talk about to my friends because they wouldn't get it.
+Yawning Gull A human chimp hybrid would more than likely be self aware, sentient, and capable of feeling lots of negative emotions about the fact that it is an experiment, and that it is alone in the world, the only one of it's species. Then when you're done studying(and what does studying involve, are you going to dissect something that is that intelligent and aware?) what do you do with this thing that now will likely live for decades and is smarter than most young children, and maybe as smart as a pre-teen or early teen adult(it's kind of hard to predict, but lets assume it's smarter than a chimp, and chimps are already pretty smart, equivalent to a young child.)? Do you euthanize it? Keep it locked up?
+hzuiel I'm still waiting for the more likely event. Soon we'll be adding just enough human DNA to grow a pig that will have a heart that can be transplanted to a human. So, how human is human? How much Human DNA can we add to a pig (for example), before it becomes cannibalism?
cheatmongul Are you a troll or are you Indoctrinated, ignorant or whats your excuses for disbelieving one of the most proven Scientific theory's on earth? Do you know how dumb you sound when you say, It's just a theory? Gravity is just a theory, does this make gravity not real either? Here's a lesson for you there are 2 types of theory's the Layman's and the Scientific. One is a hypothesis and one is made up of facts which makes it a law, truth or fact! Your god lost that debate!
This sounds more like Hank having a case of "Humans are special when compared to all other life" than actual evil. If the hybrid was cared for well, it would be no more immoral than a hinny or a mule. As for the genetic diseases it could have, that's just speculation, if it were true then we could talk about it, but we have no reason to think it is true. I for one would be interested to know if it would be possible.
+Riley B We do have reason to believe that as many of interspecies breeding results in animals incapable of breeding and deformities are generally found. If the hybrid was sentient would it be human? Obviusly not because it would be half chimpanzee, but should we treat it as human? If it wanted a partner, should we breed a partner for it? What about laws, how would human law apply to it? None of these questions are easy to answer and all of them should be carefully answered before anything is done.
***** That's never how it works, we don't create laws for possibilities, we create laws for what has happened, there's no point making preparations for a Humanzee until there is one. If the hybrid was alive it would be sentient, and it doesn't matter if its human or not, who cares, why is that an issue? I say go for it, let's see what happens, and wing it with as best ethics as we can muster.
+Riley B The whole "evil" thing through me for a loop, sounds like the dude is just projecting his own insecurity's onto this issue. People do way more immoral and evil thing's every second of the day than people could ever imagine, hybrid research pales in comparison to the evils we accept and live with every day.
Riley B I'm no ideological vegan (love wild venison) but that US/EU style factory farming is some depressing shit, not to mention the inbreed monstrosity's pumped with shit that the animals have become. What a wonderful world =D In all seriousness tho, things are getting better on that front, y'know ethical treatment and breeds made the old fashion way with more genetic diversity, free range, nose to tail culture. It's nice to think that for all the evil things being done alot of people are doing good things to. Rant's FTW =P
Because the result would be aware of what it was and probably be full of genetic mishaps and problems. It's that fact that it would most like be sentient that makes people see it as immoral since the risk of death is so high
I don't know man. Isn't it possible to create a fetus artificially just with a couple extracted egg and sperm cells? Test tube manpanzee baby. Just sounds awesome and would probably be someone you'd egg houses with.
I have seen many comments debating the theory of evolution vs creationism and would just like to point out that neither one has to deny the existence of the other. Why is it truly necessary to argue one side to the other? People will believe what they want to regardless the facts presented to them, so why try to present arguments to either side when each side is mostly locked in believing what they will? Also why is it necessary to watch material that you know you don't agree with before you watch it? Maybe its just me, but that, along with the fact that commenting just to cause controversy is blatantly unnecessary, makes little sense to me.
With artificial insemination and such the ew-factor is kind of reduced. However, I completely agree with SciShow that the ethical problems would be far too big. It begins with the likely infertility and uncertainty of its behaviour. That hybrid would also be in a legal limbo. Does it have human or merely animal rights? However I would like to know if an egg could be fertilized in the lab and if it would start developing. (Before you call me evil: I wouldn't let it go past the point, where it's just cells.) The least it might do is make the creationists shut up. The ethics of that wouldn't be any worse than normal in vitro, when the embryo is not implanted in the end. That said, how much are you willing to bet that not just someone but a lot of someones have tried and failed to do just this. I'm willing to bet it's impossible even with in vitro otherwhise some lab in a weird country would have already proclaimed their success and superiority.
& thus you have proven your own inferiority to the creationists, if this were possible, as you said, then someone would have succeeded in doing it by now, multiple times, why is horse donkey hybrid possible but not human chimp? Because humans are the ones especially created by God in his own image, which is why God designed the human DNA to be impossible to fertilize with chimpanzee/bonobo egg/sperm, only logical explanation for why such hybrids are only impossible with humans but is possible with other animals, points to the idea that Humans alone were created directly by God without any evolution perhaps, but dropped on earth in the same form that we are today, and apes could be decended from Adam and eve just like we are, that is also likely, regardless, you still can't explain the big bang theory and beginning of the universe and our solar system without the creationist method any how, so us creationists win eitherway. 🤷♂️😂
Call me evil all you want, but a viable human-nonhuman hybrid would be nothing short of a miraculous breakthrough! The amount of knowledge we could gain about our genetics (and more specifically our brains!!) from studying such a creature would be insane!! Besides, who's to say they haven't already done just that in some secret underground lab in the middle of nowhere?
Devils Advocate weird how anti-feminists are so desperate for any opportunity to talk about how much they hate feminism that they'll make a completely unrelated topic about their pwecious anti feminist feewings. it's sad. go outside, dude. you're the problem, not feminists.
Olive Juice It was poorly worded since Asians actually have the highest amount of Neanderthal DNA than all other races. Only those of pure African ancestry have no Neanderthal DNA.
I'm certainly curious to know if it is possible. It seems when it comes to scientific discovery I am chaotic neutral. Social outreach and most other things I'm neutral good, it seems, but I digress.
Perfect representation of emotions making mankind a bunch of weaklings emotions hold us back and make us weak if nobody cared and seen it as an advancement in technology imagine how much farther we would be than we are now
This is what happens when humans lose faith in God and relgion. Atheists have literally messed up our minds. Humans are not from primitive creatures. We are from Adam, who was created by God the All-Mighty. He was the first Human and non existed before.
This is by far the most bias, value based analysis I've ever seen you guys make. I am surprised that you took such a presumptive stance. I can easily imagine some reasonable arguments for pursueing such a thing.
Actually, this episode ignored the bonobo, our closest actual relatives. Geneticists have calculated that we are probably still cross-fertile with bonobos, who do have the same number of chromosomes and crucial similar variations like the vitamin-C break. In the report I saw, however, they also included the caveat, "We hope no one tries to find out." Of course, this would also open up a lot of issues about human/ape rights and the consciousness of other species.
I would want to be half-human and half-jaguar. Only, I would rather it result from me being human and developing jaguar-like features over time than being born from a human parent and a jaguar parent. Sort of like Spiderman, or the Metamorise fusion technique, or even the Potara earrings.
"Science isn't about WHY. It's about WHY NOT. Why is so much of our science dangerous? Why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you on the butt on the way out, because you are fired." - Cave Johnson But in all seriousness, don't attempt a humanzee. We already know how the mantis-men ended.
You should have just said attempted, no need to hype up a half truth. The science of it is extremely interesting, misleading viewers on the attempted vs succeeded phrasing of "it's been done before" sets up a bill it doesn't cash. Now I feel bad, I really love your videos, but I rarely like and this is my first comment ever. I will repent with 5 more educational yet highly engaging videos and like them all. God bless science.
The government did not freak out on Ilya, they were the ones funding his research after successful chimeras were produced of other species (they were very interested in assimilating "humanzees" in the army, chimp strength with human intelligence) from the the early 20s to 1929, it was Stalin. Just like many other scientists (there were a lot), he was exiled on pretense that scientists are a threat to the integrity of Communist state, because an educated populace is harder to manipulate. I know that the general direction of this video is going with how immoral this may be but lets not muddle the facts or lead people to assume something completely wrong entirely.
This needs to happen. For all we know, we could create someone who speaks both human and chimp, and as such we could communicate, civilize and trade with chimps. Who wouldn't want that? Sure, on the other hand, we could create a horrible hybrid that is in a large amount of pain every second of it's life, but there's always a risk to everything, right? It worked for zebras and horses, so it may work for us.
heres a question. we know the human genome has split before. now ask this. how many changes must occur before we deem a group of people a new branch of human genome? how would one intentionally isolate a group so that over a course of time, their offspring could/would be considered a budding new branch? How mutations does it take before we consider something to be changed enough to no longer be what it started off as? Id like to think , despite any advantageous adaptations they may have that differs them from us, they are still our brothers and there for equal. what environmental changes, whether consequence of human activity, or not, chemical, the way we shape our cities, even the way we choose to live, may eventually change us on a genetic level, and whether those genetic changes and adaptations are beneficial , would it be ethical to encourage breeding among the branching individuals with each other, to strengthen those changes, or with the previous branch to spread those traits among the rest of the population?
Good god, there are soooooo many stupid people here, who complains about how it would be immoral to create this "Humanzee"! The problem is that the being, if it survives, could possibly be self aware. Do i really need to explain why that creates a huge moral problem? One that far exceeds the one of mixing between creatures with a comparatively low intelligence.
SciShow Something to consider... Breeding a human with a neanderthal is not the same as breeding a human with a chimpanzee. Similar, but not the same. The chimpanzee is not quite as close of a genetic match, and does not have the same number of chromosomes, which I'm thinking you already knew but were leaving out for simplicity's sake. However, consider this hypothetical experiment. What if scientists were to pull a little gene splicing trick to merge the two Chimp chromosomes that are a single chromosome in humans, and use that to grow a chimp with 23 chromosome pairs? Wouldn't the result likely be much more easy to cross with a human and learn all kinds of things about specific human and chimpanzee genes by studying the genome and phenotype of the resulting hybrid? Of course if we were to do such a thing, I would hope humanity would treat any resulting hybrids as a valued additions to society, regardless of how they turned out, and not as mere laboratory animals.
18aidanme Absolutely. For certain. I'm not sure EXACTLY the details of how it would need to be done, but I would think basically snip off the ends where they need to be joined together, and throw in an artificially sequenced piece that matches that part of Human chromosome #2.
Jarke Nope Oh? You're not homosexual, but you have penis on the mind for no reason? So Are you saying that you're female? Or was that just a bit of humor you felt like sharing? LOL! No, it's not a photograph of a penis. It's a photograph of a God, and it doesn't even look at all like a penis. Why would you make such an assumption? Was that just the first thing that came to mind when you thought about what you would have named God? You've got the right general idea though.... it's nothing supernatural. It's just something named God, which as your example demonstrates rather well, could have been anything. That was my point. God exists. Lots of Gods exist. Some in reality and some in fiction. Some good and some evil. Some alive and some non-living. It's just a name.
Has the thought of something being evil ever stopped human curiosity?
Dance mom's is a thing, so no.
+TotalNoobasaur humans hate lethargy and stupidity more than evil.
Indigo Osmanthus U FUKIN WOT M8
john marston
Sit back down before you hurt yourself.
I'm glad you said "thought of something being evil", because evil most certainly does not exist, except as a damning statement of something we dont like. That said, you can all now call me evil, due to the fact that I find very little wrong with the possibility of the real world experiment.
This video told me nothing?
It's like "look here is an interesting question.. aaand we have no answer to it...goodbye!"
Blue Diesel Very often there is no current answer to a question, and learning the fact that there is no answer is telling you something and is the answer.
Aicy Yes, however the video is a "bait and switch". The title implies they have the answer. Most of what they say is common knowledge. Almost all the video is "fluff" filler material, like the guy who tried injecting sperm in to apes. It was obviously not going to work, and it brings us no where closer to an answer. That part constituted at least 30% of the video, whilst something like that should only really be a footnote.
The video never had to tell you anything. That was your assumption.
I thought this would be a bit longer. The way he just ended it after talking about the experiments was... oh... that's the end. ok.
You're right, we need to run experiments and learn more.
Call me evil, but I kinda want t to happen..
Me too... would be pretty fascinating.
eurovision50 Eww... just eww.
eurovision50
Me three. I mean, its one of those things where, you really don't know until you try.
100% agree with you
Ima guy so no and nno i dont wsnt to be inside one either
So, 1 minute 30 in, and i've already discovered i'm inherently evil. I guess mum was right..
Next you'll be saying Hitler and Stalin were evil. Gosh.
Only on tuesdays
Lol
(:
i also like bundles of sticks.
3:25 The most we will ever know... until I break into the zoo.
Holy fucking shit!
+AgentWashingtub As attractive as you might find the lady chimps, let me just warn you that chimps are capable of tearing off appendages,.... and in fact they frequently target and remove the genitalia of their victims, (by remove I really mean mutilating it and ripping it off lol), if they get angry enough to attack. So I wouldn't recommend just breaking into the zoo for a booty call, it might be wise to at least buy her dinner first lol.
nunyobiznez So, twelve bananas? More? And a steel condom?
***** Why must you take all the fun out of this?
+Born to be wasted the ultimate retort :p
God: Look, I made mankind!
Angel: No, you ruined a perfectly good monkey is what you did. Look at it, it has anxiety!
Lol
that was great
same
So true!!
Anxiety is probably a side effect of that snake screwing the human race over.
Maybe that's how orcs are made lol.
yeah..
orks are a fungus
Correction, you're a racist
hahahahaha
A hybrid between a chimp and a human would potentially be a superhuman. Think about it. The muscle density and dexterity of a chimp with the stature and intelligence of a human.
Manpanzee for president 2020!
It would probably work out better than our current president is.
we allredy have one as president
Hillary already lost in 2016. I don't think they will run her again
Nice try, D. But you missed your chance
D Lll lol that’s good
Hank, I blame you for all the weird ass stuff youtube recommends me.
SomeCallMeWeird And now you can blame Seeker/Dnews
Some call me... Tim?
SciShow "doing this is literally the definition of evil". Comments "yeah but... It is an interesting question, maybe if we found a nicer way to do it?"
For once, I may have to side with the community.
Nah, these sick fucks need a swift kick to the head.
Comments aren't "Yeah but... It is an interesting question, maybe if we found a nicer way to do it?". Comments are literally "who gives a fuck lol just do it"
Sean Gray That's not the problem. What the fuck, did you even listen to Hank on why this is a bad idea?
Sean Gray
I'm fully aware of artificial insemination.
The reason these people are sick is because their morbid curiosity outweighs their moral judgement.
With no real theory to test or scientific objective in mind other than to "see what happens", you'd have to be a pretty fucking sick person to advocate for this.
QueenVoltalia
I'd choose to not interbreed with primates. Here's why:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_bottleneck#Humans
Humanity has faced bottlenecks before and got along just fine.
"A 2005 study from Rutgers University theorized that the pre-1492 native population of the Americas are the descendants of only 70 individuals who crossed the land bridge between Asia and North America"
As much as I agree that creating a human/chimp hybrid would be incredibly immoral, I have a very intense curiosity about what its appearance, intelligence and behavior would be like. Judging by the other comments here and from discussions with others about the topic, it seems like I'm definitely not the only one. I feel like it's inevitably going to happen at some point in the future as human morals only hold up for so long. I wonder though, can no theoretical research be done on the topic? As in using our knowledge of other hybrid animals to come to some sort of conclusion about what a humanzee would be like? That may at least partially satisfy all of our morbid curiosities.
I think it could be done and would if allowed, though not like you might think. I am talking about petri dish birth. I know it would suck for the kid involved but... idk I am evil ig.
The humanzees walk among us everyday. They were actualy created naturaly in the jungle.
Probably would work on a jungle planet Millenia from now
@@benredding7080 ???
@@texanarchy666 the smarter black Africans made them to be used as slaves. When they got too wild and unruly, they were sold to other countries and races.
Can't we just see if conception is possible? You could destroy the zygote immediately afterward...If conception is possible it's likely a live hybrid is too, although it could be too deformed to be carried to term I guess...
***** Of course, although abortion is considerably less controversial where I'm from.
Besides, relatively few people actually believe life starts the second of conception. Most object to abortion when the fetus is further along and has the beginnings of limbs and a nervous system...etc.
THANK YOU! I mean, witnessing if fertilization is possible would be good enough to prove it's possible.
@@merrymachiavelli2041 usually within the first 40 days is considered ok. Once the heart is formed and it cycles at least ONE TIME then it's considered life. Until then it's just cells replicating. Not fully even formed. Nothing more than like bacteria spreading.
We have done it with the gibbon egg and human sperm and it penetrated it, you can find the scholarly article yourself it most likely can be done
@@merrymachiavelli2041
Who told you? Virtually all embryology textbooks teaches that human life begins at conception and this is backed up by various surveys conducted on Biologists.
At the academic level, the whole abortion debate is mostly not about whether human life begins at conception, it's mostly about the morality of "murder" and the question of "why do humans have value?"
I know a couple of Manpanzee's, really nice guys, great taste in home decor.
Ha
I don't think is anywhere near the definition of evil. As long as you treat it with respect and care for it whats the evil part? We've cross bred horses and donkeys to create the mule? No one looked at that as immoral or evil, mules were actually very useful.
MrSauceman09 There are other moral standards for humans.
That is why you can't buy human meat in the supermarket.
Schwarzer Ritter Moral standards are up for debate.
There are some rational arguments against cannibalism - but on the other hand isn't an organ transplant a form of cannibalism?
Also note that the primary reason there's no human meat in supermarkets is that it's wrong to kill innocent humans against their will. And the humans who die anyway would not provide meat of proper quality. The rest is arbitrary and cultural - i.e. I wouldn't mind if something useful was made out of my body after I stop using it. Plant fertilizer for a new tree would be nice an poetic.
I'm still waiting for anything less arbitrary then "it's wrong because it's wrong". Personal revulsion or arbitrary moral standards do not constitute an argument - i.e. I find an idea (well... not idea per se... but how it would look) of two gay man together quite revolting, but that's my personal reaction and I think it would be immoral to persecute homosexuals or deny them the right to happiness thus I'm very for gay rights.
andrzej2501 Of course it's wrong to kill humans against their will. Because there are different moral standards for humans than for animals.
Talking about moral standards. For many people (personally I think these people are assholes) you are a homophobe and worse than Hitler. That you don't march on anti-gay activist demonstrations isn't enough, you have to be enthusiastic they are gay.
andrzej2501 This cognitive ability is the reason we can't just breed monkeymen. We can't just keep them prisoner, can't release them in the wild and they couldn't be part of society.
This is the social justice age; tolerance isn't good enough anymore. Look at those pizza people.
Schwarzer Ritter
Well, the hybrid would either be on the level of a chimpanzee or below (and the same rules could be applied), could be on the level of humans or above - and why not let them join the society, or could be somewhere between and could be treated as we treat retarded humans. We will face the issue sooner or later - either with biological or electronic AIs. BTW: have you ever read the Uplift War series by David Brin?
What about pizza people?
"evil"? such a primitive term
Haha, nice pun :o)
You mean “primative”...
E D G Y
Go ahead and try out things that are commonly described as evil. If you are successful you will be a considered a superhero if not your life will be ruined.
LOL 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You spend a lot of time saying "this is evil" and only a short amount of time explaining exactly why. A lot of people are going to come away from this thinking their inherent squeamishness about the process is justified because Hank Green said it's evil, but "because it's gross" is not the reason this is a bad idea. "Because it will quite likely result in suffering intelligent life" is.
We - by which I mean, people who make videos like this - really need to emphasise more the reasons behind why some things are bad. Making a human-chimp hybrid is not bad because it's gross. That's really just an opinion. It's bad because the offspring will likely suffer greatly, and if it's intelligent, that's a really asty thing to do to any life form. That's the bit you need to put focus on.
Yes, you explain this in the video. But like I said - briefly. You overfocus on the "ew, gross and evil".
He simplified it for the sake of simplicity. Obviously there is more to the whole "it is evil" dilemma. "Evil" is subjective and in science it is hard to achieve great breakthroughs when you worry about emotional rationale, because science is the hard, concrete reality of how life works not how we should be politically correct.
Vimes Carrot it's pretty performative, if you ask me.
Vimes Carrot is very smart!
i wish your comment was the top one.
@Ellie Marie A zebroid can’t question its own existence and it doesn’t suffer psychologically because it’s different. We also don’t grant zebras or horses the rights that we do humans. You can’t just create humans as lab experiments, so why something that’s half human?
Oh. I'm evil? I'm confused. *_*
Because I totally want to see this happen.
Jess Shu It will never happen! LoL!
I wanna see this too. So, I'm evil.
It’s like I don’t want it to happen buuuuuuut I am curious
I want to ride a zebra horse.
***** I dont believe "zorse" or "zebroid" is scientific..more of a play on words. haha
EEEEWWWW!!!! GROSS!!!
azadkamall84
What's wring with horseback riding? (well, I guess you could call it that even if the horse is half zebra, right?)
According to scishow
shouldn't it be a Zorse or a Hebra?
Mikki Carr Vriska, you're starting to sound more like Equius.
Bonobos are actually closer to us. If we ever consider this, we should use a bonobo. They're far more peaceful.
Robert jensen That's why they're peaceful lol. They're societal structure is matriarchal and revolves almost entirely around sex.
***** Yeah those guys.
+ForeverRepublic Huh, so we _aren't_ that far off after all.
The bonobo formerly called the pygmy chimpanzee and less often, the dwarf or gracile chimpanzee, is an endangered great ape and one of the two species making up the genus Pan ; the other is Pan troglodytes, or the (common) chimpanzee. Although the name "chimpanzee" is sometimes "used" to refer to both species together, it is usually understood as referring to the common chimpanzee, whereas Pan paniscus is usually referred to as the bonobo. Got it from wiki. both are chimpanzee just not the same type like us. we are members of Hominina clade so we are human but were not the only type of human to have lived sooooo yes bonobos are chimpahnzees just not a pan troglodytes which is the common Chimpahnzees oh and they can mate with each other and make offspring soooo yeah to me they are both chimps just little different from each other but not just a similar ape to each other
We are not more closely related to bonobos than chimps. Bonobos and chimps split a few dozen years ago. This was after they split from humans. We are equally related to both.
You know you've been on you tube to long when your watching how to make a humanzee. I think i have a problem.
Same bro xD
I love those names. Chuman sounds adorable! Manpanzee had me laughing so hard I fell off my chair!
No you didnt. I'd why you all say the exact same thing many years down the line. U literally didn't do any of those things like AT ALL. Very dramatic and lying just to convey you liked a video...cringey
@@daviedood2503 Sounds like you’re fun at parties
Human chromosome 2 is a result of a telomere fusion with which looks like to be a fusion with chimp chromosomes 13 and 14, later named 2a and 2b, due to their similarity with human chromosome 2 . Because of that, there could be viable offspring if someone would happen to make a head-to-head telomere fusion with the chimp chromosomes 13 (2a) and 14 (2b) (while disabling the centromere from the other fused chromosome) to form an egg cell containing 23 chromosomes and then inserting a human sperm cell inside, or vice versa. Since sperm cells also contain mitochondria in their "tails", one would have to remove it first to avoid complications. Not saying that it should be done, just saying it could be possible now days...
Hank: Being part Neanderthal is what makes us human.
Sub-Saharan Africans: Am I a joke to you?
They have Neanderthaler dna too
The original humans
@@OfficialDenzy no they dont
@@thegeneral1007Yes they actually do.
What makes it immoral? Scientific explanation please! None of that religious mumbo-jumbo!
+TheShoreman1 Would you like to be the result ?
That was my point exactly. Science cannot explain everything. Thanks for the name-calling. Have a nice day!
TheShoreman1 cad80 24 made no point.
Morals aren't based on religion...its based on human dignity and respect. 😑 if you don't understand the difference, well we don't want stupid to spread.
+TheShoreman1 Because if it had a sentient mind was sterile as most likely then it would be alone and a freak of nature which because it might have speech and learning capacity similar to a child do you want to be the one to tell it that? That is was made for our curiosity, not out of love or by accident but just because we wondered what would happen.
Q: How do we know that some of our DNA is Neanderthal DNA, and not just DNA that we and Neanderthals *share* from a common ancestor?
Also, are we Humanderthals, or Neanderthumans? Who woke up next to whom?
Neanderthals would still be human, heck if Vulcans, Romulans and Klingons existed they would be humans. Do Star Trek Deep Space 9: Cardassians descend from Kardasians is that a scary thought?
Ferb,I know what we’re gonna do today!
Fuck the morality I say it would be interesting as fuck. So much other fixable evils in this world.
+bill mullarky Interesting as fuck, haha. Pun intended? :p
Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
- Malcolm
I say we should do it. Morals mean nothing, hontestly. It would be interesting to see how it plays out.
***** Yes, but it's more important for us as humans to advance the human race than to be human. In fact, that is basically the whole idea of being human. Anyways, why not do it? There is no reason, based on logic and science, that it is bad to do this. So I say do it.
Bränd Mórder Thats what Hitler believed too, nearly word for word. (in regards the nazi human tests being done during WW2) You are one horribly immoral man...but most of me takes your side. Knowledge splits from the "non-morality" once the public forgets, doesnt care, becomes numb to, or just just doesnt know how the knowledge came to be.
rickie lowman Immoral? Maybe, and what I said was sort of unexplained. What I mean is that humans evolve and adapt to certain situations, but natural selection only works for so long. Once you reach the point where your intelligence and physical traits don't determine whether you live or die (unlike 100 thousand or so years ago, when you had to have certain traits to survive, and only people with those traits lived and reproduced), we aren't evolving at all. In fact, no matter how stupid someone is, it is still highly likely that they will reproduce, and their genes would be passed on, and in a sense, the human race is currently devolving. We are also devolving because of our reliance on tools and technology. So now, because natural selection isn't going to improve the human race (for the most part), any more, it is our responsibility as humans to advance the human race. Basically, because there are no environmental demands that cause us to improve so we can survive more easily, we should improve in other ways, or improve that area ourselves. In terms of improving ourselves, (again, a loss of natural selection also means that our collective DNA will degrade over time due to a build up of negative mutations [harmful mutations are much more common than beneficial ones]). Eugenics is the solution. We can direct our own evolution, the possibilities are endless. And this includes not only morphological variation, but neurological as well! Oh, and by the way, the eugenics programs in Germany were not the first. Germany actually used the eugenics programs in California in the 1930's as an example. (of course eventually Germany went way overboard) I don't mean that it should be done by sterilization though, but through genetic engineering/modification. I mean that on animals and plants, not humans (yet). I'm not for unnecessary/unethical treatment of humans, but even though it could have a major cost right now, it would make the future great. What's the loss of one human life, compared to the enrichment of millions? It could, in time, if something terrible were to happen, save the human race (as a virus/disease that infects some people won't effect others with different genes). If we have more immunizes, we are more likely to survive as a race, right? So we could wait millions of years and just see what happens, or we could do the same amount of evolution that those millions of years would do in 100, and control the genetic mutations so that they only have a positive effect, and we would be so much better as a species because of it. People might say it's unethical, but what if we created clones that didn't have nerves (couldn't feel pain), and weren't conscious (so it's like they never were alive at all, so it's not like you're harming a living thing, it's like doing genetic modification on a plant, except the data we would get from doing that would be relevant in humans, and we could use that data to improve the human species). So my thinking is that we definitely should do it, but do it in the most ethical way possible, while still improving the human species.
***** Plenty of fish live deep in the ocean. Aside from that, our intelligence isn't increasing in the slightest. Our knowledge of the world is, but not our intelligence.
Intelligence is more about our ability to think, not the knowledge we have that accumulated over time. The only reason it may seem that way is because of overpopulation, there's a lot of smart people doing great things in science right now, but there's also alot of stupid people who do nothing and add nothing to society at all.
Some tools are okay to rely on, I understand that, but we really shouldn't use them to accomplish what people can normally accomplish on their own. What happens when a meteor hits earth the human race is practically wiped out, and we lose our tools? We go from the top of the food chain to near the bottom. What would we have left? I mean, look at the obesity "epidemic". We don't need to be thin and limber to survive anymore, so now we're all getting fat. When we lose all that that is guarding us, we have nothing. Usage of hand sanitizer has been linked to peanut allergies. That's because we have stuff that blocks it out, but as a consequence, we lose our immunities. We either regulate our development ourselves, or we get rid of our tools.
How do you know that a species might not be able to soar above the clouds? If we evolve ourselves into superhumans that can do all those things, then it is possible. we could have wings, we could have oxygen deposits in our bodies so we could go without breathing for 30 mins, we could do so much. I'm just scratching the surface here. We could manually eradicate the genes that are linked to cancer, and other diseases, I'm just scratching the surface, we could do so much more, but we never really know what we can do with it until we try, so why not?
***** The average intelligence? Now that I think about it, you are actually right. Young children who's brains are still developing are exposed to more knowledge, (intelligence is your ability to comprehend knowledge). If you train a child to be able to do that, of course they are going to be more intelligent. That is because of our interference with people's development, not caused by sitting around and doing nothing. It's true that dumber people are louder, I agree on that, but there are lots of stupid, ignorant people in the world. Again, I'm not saying to completely abandon tools, but to not use tools as a replacement for what we can already do, but rather as a way to extend what we already can do even further. We shouldn't rely on them so much that we are useless without them. The reason I think people are devolving is because of genetic mutations that have negative effects circulating through us. For example, cancer causing genes. I agree with alot of what you said, but you really didn't understand what I meant. I do realize that what I was getting into with wings and that stuff was pretty much fiction and fantasy, but it could possibly happen. We just have to find out a way. I could also see why there's no reason to. I never said get rid of technology and tools, I just think we shouldn't lose what we already have for that.
Ethics and morals shouldn't come in the way for scientific progress. As long as the humans involved have given their consent, go for it.
A lack of morals when it comes to experimentation leads to horror like the Tuskegee experiment.
The created creature cannot give consent and will definitely be sentient, having to live a life of extreme hardship and genetic problems so it can be studied just because we wanted to see what would happen. It's cruel to whatever we would end up making. Doing these kinds of things with lower intelligence creatures is one thing, but when you get to human level you've stepped in a huge gray zone. Individual gene editing in intelligent animals I think is fine, but merging two different species into one is way beyond that and it's irresponsible.
It''s supercalifragilistic-chromosomal-polymorphism.
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Let's do it!
shouldnt science completely ignore morals and "best interest" when it comes to pioneering and experimenting?
yes
That was Menguele said :v
Exterminatus omnia that’s how you make a dinosaur theme park
Exterminatus omnia It should if it doesn't hurt anyone.
The subjects don't count. Their sacrifice is for the greater good.
So, what are your thoughts on the Tuskegee experiment?
There are many things people do that we probably shouldn't do.
I'm not saying I'd do it.
But let's face it. At least half of our lives are spent looking the other way.
If someone were to do it, we'd condemn it. But at the same time you can't tell me that it would blow everyone's mind if it worked.
I never understood the moral argument behind this. I don't know maybe I'm just a terrible person but I would be totally okay with creating one of these creatures if anything just to observe them and see what their behavior would be like. And I feel like a lot can be learned through this. I'm no scientist I'm no scientist but if you give me a bunch of sedated female chimps and a turkey baster I'll do it
The moral issue with doing this is that there is a strong chance the hybrid would possess human level intelligence. Due to it's appearance that will no doubt be somewhat nightmarish it would be ostracized from both human and possibly even chimpanzee society. Basically, it would be an individual like me and you who isn't accepted by anyone and would be isolated in a lab it's whole life. I think you can figure out why that's incredibly immoral. Not to mention the creature is still 50% human and we can all agree that no human being, regardless of appearance should be raised in a lab their whole life.
I'm sure we'd be able to simulate this in a computer with unprecedented accuracy soon.
Adam Colon It would take us way longer than that. You’d have to perfectly replicate every part of each component’s DNA. We’ve only accomplished coding small organisms.
^ prettyyy sure.
Adam Colon Soon as in 20 years?
*A D V A N C E D*
*A L G O R I T H M S*
I am shocked by all the people advocating this in the comments. "For science" is not a good reason to bring a sentient, sapient and intelligent creature into a miserable existence just to keep it in a lab and study it, even if it's "only just once". There are tons of other issues that might rise to, such as the possibility of health issues and deformity, or the question of if it has human rights.
Yeah ppl are idiots how exactly does this better our life and our children's lives.
+Zachmacf To be fair, the same could be said for bringing any child into this world. Who's to say that the being once produced would have a miserable existence, let alone that it would be sapient and intelligent? We have no proof that it would be, or that it might not become a better species than human in the long run. The fact is we don't know anything until we try, so anything you put forward is all conjecture. Any ethics associated with said conjecture is unfounded due to this lack of the knowledge of any and all possible outcomes.
+lowercase21 They said the same thing about electricity and studying STD's. Science doesn't exist in a vacuum and you cannot know the possible benefits prior to experimentation and exploration. It could be possible that a chimp human hybrid could produce antibodies for fighting AIDS, cancer or any number of other diseases. It could bring greater understanding of the brain and its functions by having a halfway point to compare between humans and chimps. The possibilities are potentially limitless, and we won't know until we try.
Femsplainer I suppose I can't always know the benefits, but I don't think that's a good reason to do something that could potentially be really, really messed up. Even if there is benefits however, I'm not sure I'd still be able to approve of that sort of experimentation. They'd have to be REALLY good benefits, and I'm not confident that a chimp/human hybrid will bring us a new cure for cancer.
If you do something because of that train of logic, and the results are disastrous, would it still be justified? When is the risk too much to take? I see plenty of risk in this experiment. If this was someone putting themselves at risk, I wouldn't see that as a problem - but when it comes to putting another living creature at risk, even if its simply by bringing them into existence, that's where it gets morally sketchy.
Please explain the benefits to this. We aren't in the past I'm not a close minded idiot I'm all for furthering science. I'm okay if a full grown man consents to being experimented on but that never happens why? bc grown adults know their lives will be on the line so why should we experiment on our offspring?? Bc it's not our lives. we are being selfish and cowardly with science. Look at the creators of the A-bomb they instantly regretted what they made. A famous man once said "the keys that will open the gates to heaven are the same keys that will open the gates to hell" we need to be intelligent not act intelligent.
I didn't hear any arguments WHY creating such a hybrid would be "evil".
Personally I don't like the idea but I have no purely rational arguments against it and there are quite a few arguments for the idea - i.e. to study how sentience works and what genes are responsible for developing our cognitive abilities (and maybe to tweak them a little bit to increase them?)
+andrzej2501 No to mention the novelty of it would be wonderful.
Science now matter how strange is not evil. I'm disappointed with you scishow
Nice then I'll make a human repellent that'll kill every human
According to evolution as you know it. It should be possible.
We should definitely test this just to see if the pregnancy is possible. The answer is very important as it can change science or religion as we know it.
What so many people in this comment section don't get: this thing that we could potentially create COULD. BE. SENTIENT. It might be able to think and be self-aware the same way we do, and it'd be treated like a lab rat its entire life. How could anyone in their right mind subject someone to that?
FuzzyPickles42 Then why not raise it in a not lab like environment
We subject sentient beings to indescribable torture daily. Look at the meat industry. I think the two are on about the same level of ignorance.
It's worth it for science. It's not like it really matters, it's just a random animal. For better or worse, I also consider humans to be just another random animal, so take that as you will. Ethics get in the way of science constantly. I think it would be best if that weren't the case, or at least ethics were followed to a lesser extent. So many things could've been discovered years ago had we just tried, but instead morals get in the way. If you're so concerned about it suffering, just kill it as soon as the experiment is done. In doing so, you kill the memory of the events along with the test subject, obviously, and if the subject doesn't remember it, and isn't alive to suffer from the effects, it's essentially like it never happened at all from that subject's perspective.
Solan, I think Fuzzy meant sapient.
Both chimps and humans are already sentient, as are all animals to some extend.
Not gonna lie.... having a tail would be awesome.
i merely said having a tail would be awesome, Never said anything about being part chimpanzee , x ,
We do have tales during development but they dissolve in the womb (most of the time)
I mean an actual functioning tail.
Iuno, Maybe.
Again, Merely stating having a tail would be awesome in a youtube comments section does not mean that chimps suddenly have tails.
Amoral? I clicked the video cuz I wanted to see some hilarious freaky half human half monkeys.
just go to Africah for that
Fathappykitten racist
I don't see it as evil at all.
HaitianHallow at lest your honist
I say, why not try it and see what happens? Could be neat.
***** yea becuase they would be as smart and much stronger than us and we wouldent accept them into our society so it would be like X-men
Jake Birkmaier How would they be stronger? Humans and chimpanzees have roughly the same strength.
then why can they rip off faces
Jake Birkmaier No idea.
Jake Birkmaier ripping someones ear off is equivilent to ripping 12 sheets of paper.
i read the title as 'how to make a human sneeze' i got really weirded out when he started talking cross hybrid species
i dont really see this as evil...does that mean i'm evil?
Not unless you think mules are evil
yes and no, you are curious and unaware of the deeply moral issues surrounding the topic. How will the parents raise the hybrid, would they? will it be treated like an animal or a person, how much cognitive function will it have? It will never have a free existence because it simply will be a lab rat most of its life. if you want to willing create a being with so much potential for medical errors and emotional ones to the thing, you are evil. I personally feel like maybe if the species were just as intelligent as us, it wouldn't be so wrong.
Not so fast, Hank. While I agree that from the human perspective, a manpanzee (yes, I will forever use that wonderful word) is all bad. It amounts to deliberately creating a human with severe developmental problems. Not good at all. BUT you are not thinking about this from the chimpanzee perspective. For the chimp it is pretty much all good. Sure, he would probably lose a lot of physical strength, but in exchange for a massive increase in intelligence? That's a no-brainer (haha). Think about it this way, suppose a human had a chance to breed with a super-advanced alien producing an offspring ten times smarter than a normal human. Wouldn't that be a good thing for humanity? Leapfrogging millions of years of evolution? Of course. So, in short, if you care about chimpanzees, you will breed with them.
that actually makes a good point
Adrastia
I suppose you are right.
In reality what we call sapience is actually better sociability in my opinion. Our consciousness, intelligence and the fact our brains run on emotion are simply due to our lineage evolving to become even more social than our ancestors, stressors likely being the same that changed our bodies to become more of a running ape than a climbing ape, the loss of tree cover in the African Savannah leaving us in groups on the cold cold ground which were forced to hunt in the Savannah instead of forage in the jungle. Our intelligence allows us to predict others and provide for others better, strengthening relationships. This culminated in our nice well-lit metropolises. That's my two cents anyways.
I want it to happen just 1 time... Just to see
but not to me
Let's do it lol XD
I thought I was making human zzz, when I sleep.
Maybe all those snowmen and yetis are human crossbreeds?
Yetis might have been silver back gorillas before people knew what gorillas were. Unicorns are one horned rhinoceros of India not some animal resembling a cross between narwhal and horse.
MANPANZEE.
+விஷ்ணு கார்த்திக் Planet of the Apee
Man pansy confirmed hosting this channel.
Probably it's more likely to be successful with bonobos
"I hate every ape I see, from Human A to Humanzee..."
Your disclaimer was definitely my favorite part of this video. There's no reason why we can't continue to discuss these things just because we have collectively placed ethical barriers on actually doing them.
see... even as you told me it was evil I still felt the urge to do it. I really love this channel because it discusses things i can't talk about to my friends because they wouldn't get it.
apparently I have been saying neanderthal wrong my whole life
You and most everyone else.
No, both the "-thal" and "-tal" pronunciations are correct. The latter is the primary pronunciation according to Merriam-Webster, though.
Shiranui good to know. thanks for the clarification
Near dental
Morality, always getting in the way of science.
So mules are immoral? Ok.
+Yawning Gull no
Note the word sentient, the high possibility of genetic disorders, and the fact that they would be the only member of their species.
+JurkusplaysMC Why would they be the only members of their species? If you make one, you can make others. Common sense.
+Yawning Gull A human chimp hybrid would more than likely be self aware, sentient, and capable of feeling lots of negative emotions about the fact that it is an experiment, and that it is alone in the world, the only one of it's species. Then when you're done studying(and what does studying involve, are you going to dissect something that is that intelligent and aware?) what do you do with this thing that now will likely live for decades and is smarter than most young children, and maybe as smart as a pre-teen or early teen adult(it's kind of hard to predict, but lets assume it's smarter than a chimp, and chimps are already pretty smart, equivalent to a young child.)? Do you euthanize it? Keep it locked up?
+hzuiel I'm still waiting for the more likely event. Soon we'll be adding just enough human DNA to grow a pig that will have a heart that can be transplanted to a human. So, how human is human? How much Human DNA can we add to a pig (for example), before it becomes cannibalism?
Laughed on manpanzee
It can't be done again, he said it can. how can it be done again if it never happened?
must not have payed attention. It happened with Neanderthals.
zetsumeinaito no it didn't its a theory but i don't feel like arguing its pointless believe what you want and i will believe what i want.
cheatmongul The interbreeding of Neanderthal is not a theory, it's a scientific fact.
cheatmongul ok i try to send a link but type in evolution vs god and please watch it all of it its a really great debate video
cheatmongul Are you a troll or are you Indoctrinated, ignorant or whats your excuses for disbelieving one of the most proven Scientific theory's on earth? Do you know how dumb you sound when you say, It's just a theory? Gravity is just a theory, does this make gravity not real either? Here's a lesson for you there are 2 types of theory's the Layman's and the Scientific. One is a hypothesis and one is made up of facts which makes it a law, truth or fact! Your god lost that debate!
I don't know but I think it should happen... It will be a big step of science.
"That is completely immoral and the definition of evil" *BUT* This show makes me laugh so hard every fucking episode god damnit
This sounds more like Hank having a case of "Humans are special when compared to all other life" than actual evil. If the hybrid was cared for well, it would be no more immoral than a hinny or a mule. As for the genetic diseases it could have, that's just speculation, if it were true then we could talk about it, but we have no reason to think it is true.
I for one would be interested to know if it would be possible.
+Riley B We do have reason to believe that as many of interspecies breeding results in animals incapable of breeding and deformities are generally found. If the hybrid was sentient would it be human? Obviusly not because it would be half chimpanzee, but should we treat it as human? If it wanted a partner, should we breed a partner for it? What about laws, how would human law apply to it? None of these questions are easy to answer and all of them should be carefully answered before anything is done.
***** That's never how it works, we don't create laws for possibilities, we create laws for what has happened, there's no point making preparations for a Humanzee until there is one.
If the hybrid was alive it would be sentient, and it doesn't matter if its human or not, who cares, why is that an issue?
I say go for it, let's see what happens, and wing it with as best ethics as we can muster.
+Riley B The whole "evil" thing through me for a loop, sounds like the dude is just projecting his own insecurity's onto this issue.
People do way more immoral and evil thing's every second of the day than people could ever imagine, hybrid research pales in comparison to the evils we accept and live with every day.
coal james Everyone not being Vegan for example.
Riley B I'm no ideological vegan (love wild venison) but that US/EU style factory farming is some depressing shit, not to mention the inbreed monstrosity's pumped with shit that the animals have become.
What a wonderful world =D
In all seriousness tho, things are getting better on that front, y'know ethical treatment and breeds made the old fashion way with more genetic diversity, free range, nose to tail culture.
It's nice to think that for all the evil things being done alot of people are doing good things to.
Rant's FTW =P
Humans are animals; why would a humanzee be any different from other cross-species?
Because the result would be aware of what it was and probably be full of genetic mishaps and problems. It's that fact that it would most like be sentient that makes people see it as immoral since the risk of death is so high
I don't know man. Isn't it possible to create a fetus artificially just with a couple extracted egg and sperm cells? Test tube manpanzee baby. Just sounds awesome and would probably be someone you'd egg houses with.
I have seen many comments debating the theory of evolution vs creationism and would just like to point out that neither one has to deny the existence of the other. Why is it truly necessary to argue one side to the other? People will believe what they want to regardless the facts presented to them, so why try to present arguments to either side when each side is mostly locked in believing what they will? Also why is it necessary to watch material that you know you don't agree with before you watch it? Maybe its just me, but that, along with the fact that commenting just to cause controversy is blatantly unnecessary, makes little sense to me.
+Larry Reaux Ugh.
With artificial insemination and such the ew-factor is kind of reduced. However, I completely agree with SciShow that the ethical problems would be far too big. It begins with the likely infertility and uncertainty of its behaviour. That hybrid would also be in a legal limbo. Does it have human or merely animal rights?
However I would like to know if an egg could be fertilized in the lab and if it would start developing. (Before you call me evil: I wouldn't let it go past the point, where it's just cells.)
The least it might do is make the creationists shut up. The ethics of that wouldn't be any worse than normal in vitro, when the embryo is not implanted in the end.
That said, how much are you willing to bet that not just someone but a lot of someones have tried and failed to do just this. I'm willing to bet it's impossible even with in vitro otherwhise some lab in a weird country would have already proclaimed their success and superiority.
People have sex with monkeys. There was a story about a orangutan prostitute a couple years ago.
& thus you have proven your own inferiority to the creationists, if this were possible, as you said, then someone would have succeeded in doing it by now, multiple times, why is horse donkey hybrid possible but not human chimp? Because humans are the ones especially created by God in his own image, which is why God designed the human DNA to be impossible to fertilize with chimpanzee/bonobo egg/sperm, only logical explanation for why such hybrids are only impossible with humans but is possible with other animals, points to the idea that Humans alone were created directly by God without any evolution perhaps, but dropped on earth in the same form that we are today, and apes could be decended from Adam and eve just like we are, that is also likely, regardless, you still can't explain the big bang theory and beginning of the universe and our solar system without the creationist method any how, so us creationists win eitherway. 🤷♂️😂
There is already Humanzee, it's called creationists hey :)
I think this would be pretyy cool to happen. It's probably just me. But I think scientificly it should be done.
great idea and completely moral
I'm thinking about doing it.
+Loot Farmer You perv. ;)
Done, Sarah Jessica Parker, I'm just saying....
+David Martin I think I speak for all Chuman and Humanzee kind when I say, that comment is deeply offensive. She's clearly a horse hybrid.
+RPLAsmodeus best comment.
Call me evil all you want, but a viable human-nonhuman hybrid would be nothing short of a miraculous breakthrough! The amount of knowledge we could gain about our genetics (and more specifically our brains!!) from studying such a creature would be insane!! Besides, who's to say they haven't already done just that in some secret underground lab in the middle of nowhere?
Using the male species as the first part of the name might trigger some feminists.
Mxnpanzee could work? Won't trigger any womxn :P
Devils Advocate weird how anti-feminists are so desperate for any opportunity to talk about how much they hate feminism that they'll make a completely unrelated topic about their pwecious anti feminist feewings. it's sad. go outside, dude. you're the problem, not feminists.
matty owen they fuel eachothers fire theyre both the problem just let them destroy eachother and stay out of it
If you want to see human / primate interbreeding and the results, watch Jeremy Kyle or Jerry Springer
Haha!
Watch Jersey Shore / Made in Chelsea / Only way is Essex...
Dude, humans are primates. -_-
Why does he say "We all have a little neanderthal DNA in us."
Then goes on to say "most Europeans..."
Not all your viewers are white.
Olive Juice It was poorly worded since Asians actually have the highest amount of Neanderthal DNA than all other races. Only those of pure African ancestry have no Neanderthal DNA.
Here comes the racist primitive black person who has to create a racial division between white and black people at any smallest opportunity possible.
The politically correct tern would not be manzee,but personzee,or maybe vaginaoppressingzee.
Who is that guy? Orochimaru?
imagine if the kudzu vine interbred with the caster bean plant. nightmare!
*****
Everyone knows what kudzu is...
I'm certainly curious to know if it is possible. It seems when it comes to scientific discovery I am chaotic neutral. Social outreach and most other things I'm neutral good, it seems, but I digress.
Am I the only one who thinks that Hank is almost asking someone to actually do it?
It would be evil to make only one of them but what of we created multiple of them and put them out in the wild.
Immoral, evil ... !!! Think I got the wrong channel. ;)
im starting a private lab on this topic soon.
wish me luck
so, how is the progress?
Perfect representation of emotions making mankind a bunch of weaklings emotions hold us back and make us weak if nobody cared and seen it as an advancement in technology imagine how much farther we would be than we are now
Oh yeah? How would we benefit from making a humanzee? You tell me the positive benefits on science from it since you're so smart
This is what happens when humans lose faith in God and relgion. Atheists have literally messed up our minds. Humans are not from primitive creatures. We are from Adam, who was created by God the All-Mighty. He was the first Human and non existed before.
Sha Gojō Not sure if sarcasm or AIDS
how d'you know for sure?
This is by far the most bias, value based analysis I've ever seen you guys make. I am surprised that you took such a presumptive stance. I can easily imagine some reasonable arguments for pursueing such a thing.
Actually, this episode ignored the bonobo, our closest actual relatives. Geneticists have calculated that we are probably still cross-fertile with bonobos, who do have the same number of chromosomes and crucial similar variations like the vitamin-C break. In the report I saw, however, they also included the caveat, "We hope no one tries to find out." Of course, this would also open up a lot of issues about human/ape rights and the consciousness of other species.
I would want to be half-human and half-jaguar. Only, I would rather it result from me being human and developing jaguar-like features over time than being born from a human parent and a jaguar parent. Sort of like Spiderman, or the Metamorise fusion technique, or even the Potara earrings.
Sounds like shamanism. Maybe the Jaguar is a spirit animal for you.
i know one Human Orangutan hybrid that exists .
I want someone to write a book about this.
Also why the hell does the father get named first, it should be the other way around.
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"Science isn't about WHY. It's about WHY NOT. Why is so much of our science dangerous? Why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you on the butt on the way out, because you are fired."
- Cave Johnson
But in all seriousness, don't attempt a humanzee. We already know how the mantis-men ended.
You should have just said attempted, no need to hype up a half truth. The science of it is extremely interesting, misleading viewers on the attempted vs succeeded phrasing of "it's been done before" sets up a bill it doesn't cash. Now I feel bad, I really love your videos, but I rarely like and this is my first comment ever. I will repent with 5 more educational yet highly engaging videos and like them all. God bless science.
The government did not freak out on Ilya, they were the ones funding his research after successful chimeras were produced of other species (they were very interested in assimilating "humanzees" in the army, chimp strength with human intelligence) from the the early 20s to 1929, it was Stalin. Just like many other scientists (there were a lot), he was exiled on pretense that scientists are a threat to the integrity of Communist state, because an educated populace is harder to manipulate. I know that the general direction of this video is going with how immoral this may be but lets not muddle the facts or lead people to assume something completely wrong entirely.
This needs to happen. For all we know, we could create someone who speaks both human and chimp, and as such we could communicate, civilize and trade with chimps. Who wouldn't want that? Sure, on the other hand, we could create a horrible hybrid that is in a large amount of pain every second of it's life, but there's always a risk to everything, right? It worked for zebras and horses, so it may work for us.
heres a question. we know the human genome has split before. now ask this. how many changes must occur before we deem a group of people a new branch of human genome? how would one intentionally isolate a group so that over a course of time, their offspring could/would be considered a budding new branch? How mutations does it take before we consider something to be changed enough to no longer be what it started off as? Id like to think , despite any advantageous adaptations they may have that differs them from us, they are still our brothers and there for equal. what environmental changes, whether consequence of human activity, or not, chemical, the way we shape our cities, even the way we choose to live, may eventually change us on a genetic level, and whether those genetic changes and adaptations are beneficial , would it be ethical to encourage breeding among the branching individuals with each other, to strengthen those changes, or with the previous branch to spread those traits among the rest of the population?
Good god, there are soooooo many stupid people here, who complains about how it would be immoral to create this "Humanzee"!
The problem is that the being, if it survives, could possibly be self
aware. Do i really need to explain why that creates a huge moral
problem? One that far exceeds the one of mixing between creatures with a comparatively low intelligence.
SciShow Something to consider...
Breeding a human with a neanderthal is not the same as breeding a human with a chimpanzee. Similar, but not the same. The chimpanzee is not quite as close of a genetic match, and does not have the same number of chromosomes, which I'm thinking you already knew but were leaving out for simplicity's sake.
However, consider this hypothetical experiment. What if scientists were to pull a little gene splicing trick to merge the two Chimp chromosomes that are a single chromosome in humans, and use that to grow a chimp with 23 chromosome pairs? Wouldn't the result likely be much more easy to cross with a human and learn all kinds of things about specific human and chimpanzee genes by studying the genome and phenotype of the resulting hybrid? Of course if we were to do such a thing, I would hope humanity would treat any resulting hybrids as a valued additions to society, regardless of how they turned out, and not as mere laboratory animals.
Sounds good, but is merging 2 chromosomes artifically possible?
18aidanme Absolutely. For certain. I'm not sure EXACTLY the details of how it would need to be done, but I would think basically snip off the ends where they need to be joined together, and throw in an artificially sequenced piece that matches that part of Human chromosome #2.
I have a photograph of God. Took it myself. Proves God is a fake. Anyone care to see it?
Donald Kronos No. Also, this is assuming 'God' means 'your penis.' Since I'm not homosexual, definitely not.
Jarke Nope Oh? You're not homosexual, but you have penis on the mind for no reason? So Are you saying that you're female? Or was that just a bit of humor you felt like sharing? LOL! No, it's not a photograph of a penis. It's a photograph of a God, and it doesn't even look at all like a penis. Why would you make such an assumption? Was that just the first thing that came to mind when you thought about what you would have named God? You've got the right general idea though.... it's nothing supernatural. It's just something named God, which as your example demonstrates rather well, could have been anything. That was my point. God exists. Lots of Gods exist. Some in reality and some in fiction. Some good and some evil. Some alive and some non-living. It's just a name.