It's so good that you explained the difference that we can see in leaves! I would like a four feet sage and couldn't figure out which type to get. Last time, I bought three pots, but they basically had no info, even the name was missing. They had a decent price, and I would've bought more since I wanted to fill in a big area, but I held off because I would like tall ones. I'm so curious now that I am going to check on it in the dark.
The one with serated leaves in fact is a hybrid of Perovskia atriplicifolia with P. abrotanoides. Species Perovskia atriplicifolia has much smaller serations.
Do they need to be deadheaded? Can I prune them all the way down to the wood at the bottom? I accidentally did that with lavender and killed it 😩. Thank you so much!
There is really no need for Russian sage plants to be sold very large. They grow nearly full size from the pots in the video in a single season. I had so much trouble finding them locally. They were priced like what you saw as well.
@@icanyoucantwo2024 it depends on where on my property but I do have clay soil. My Russian sage plants though are planted in good soil that we had to bring in to raise the grade around our house. I have grown Russian sage though in clay soil at our previous and it was successful.
I've heard Russian sage is extremely sensitive to overwatering. I cannot find info online about how often to water when establishing. My climate has zero summer rain and is very hot 105-115 is typical. This lasts about 5-6 months. I planted this Russian sage(patented) in the fall and it looks healthy but is not growing very fast. Not many plants can thrive in my conditions and I'm very hopeful that this one can. Any ideas?
You may try amending the soil a little. It sounds like it may need a little supplemental watering in the summer. The key will be to let it completely dry out between watering. Just check with your finger in the soil and if it's still a little wet hold off on watering a couple days then check again. In your climate I would add some mulch to the soil surface to help keep the roots a little cooler. That should keep soil moisture higher for longer as well. It's hard to know am exact amount to water as evaporation happens depending on factors like the heat, soil types, typical rainfall amounts etc. I home that helps some!
I am in zone 9b california and I never water mine. The only water they get is rainwater. It spreads by underground roots. Have to keep babies pulled up.
@cgoodloe Are you coastal or inland? Is your ground hard and rocky this time of year? How hot do you get? Sorry to be nosy. I had a discussion with the local native plant nursery and he was having trouble with his Russian sage too. He thought we should be watering more. Perhaps 2x weekly.
Don’t even get me started on “patents “ for God’s gifts from nature. My understanding is propagating plants (patented or not) for personal use and not for resale, is fine. They just don’t want you making money off “their invention” greedy folks that they are. If they want to come after me for propagating my own, they’ll have to catch me first 😉. 😂
If you spent your time (most plants take years), money, and knowledge making, developing, enhancing, renovating, etc., something, wouldn't you want and expect recognition and rights to your work? Plant patents are no different. The originals are indeed gifts from God, but these hybrids are inventions from individuals (if you don't consider these hybrids their "inventions," what do you consider them?) and rightfully belong to them, just as the originals belong to God. Wanting to ensure you get your just dues if others are going to market and make a fortune off your work is not greed. Greed wouldn't allow them to have no issue with propagation for personal use. That is a gift…from the inventors. 😉
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It's so good that you explained the difference that we can see in leaves! I would like a four feet sage and couldn't figure out which type to get. Last time, I bought three pots, but they basically had no info, even the name was missing. They had a decent price, and I would've bought more since I wanted to fill in a big area, but I held off because I would like tall ones. I'm so curious now that I am going to check on it in the dark.
The one with serated leaves in fact is a hybrid of Perovskia atriplicifolia with P. abrotanoides. Species Perovskia atriplicifolia has much smaller serations.
I love Russian sage.
Do they need to be deadheaded? Can I prune them all the way down to the wood at the bottom? I accidentally did that with lavender and killed it 😩. Thank you so much!
They can be deadheaded after flowering. I wouldn't cut them all the way back, stay within the live growth.
i've never seen such tiny plants! They are $18 here.
There is really no need for Russian sage plants to be sold very large. They grow nearly full size from the pots in the video in a single season. I had so much trouble finding them locally. They were priced like what you saw as well.
Do you have clay soil?
@@icanyoucantwo2024 it depends on where on my property but I do have clay soil. My Russian sage plants though are planted in good soil that we had to bring in to raise the grade around our house. I have grown Russian sage though in clay soil at our previous and it was successful.
I've heard Russian sage is extremely sensitive to overwatering. I cannot find info online about how often to water when establishing. My climate has zero summer rain and is very hot 105-115 is typical. This lasts about 5-6 months. I planted this Russian sage(patented) in the fall and it looks healthy but is not growing very fast. Not many plants can thrive in my conditions and I'm very hopeful that this one can. Any ideas?
You may try amending the soil a little. It sounds like it may need a little supplemental watering in the summer. The key will be to let it completely dry out between watering. Just check with your finger in the soil and if it's still a little wet hold off on watering a couple days then check again. In your climate I would add some mulch to the soil surface to help keep the roots a little cooler. That should keep soil moisture higher for longer as well. It's hard to know am exact amount to water as evaporation happens depending on factors like the heat, soil types, typical rainfall amounts etc. I home that helps some!
I am in zone 9b california and I never water mine. The only water they get is rainwater. It spreads by underground roots. Have to keep babies pulled up.
@cgoodloe Are you coastal or inland? Is your ground hard and rocky this time of year? How hot do you get? Sorry to be nosy. I had a discussion with the local native plant nursery and he was having trouble with his Russian sage too. He thought we should be watering more. Perhaps 2x weekly.
What happened to the russiand that you propagated 4 years ago? Why not prop from those? Did it die?
Our old home didn't have enough sunny spots to support the Russian sage and they were never planted.
Where did you online order your original Russian Sage from?
I ordered from Santa Rosa Gardens. The plants all came in looking great.
I didnt know that about patents and propagating... thats terrible about how they have patented varieties
There are some good reasons for it but definitely some negatives as well.
Don’t even get me started on “patents “ for God’s gifts from nature. My understanding is propagating plants (patented or not) for personal use and not for resale, is fine. They just don’t want you making money off “their invention” greedy folks that they are. If they want to come after me for propagating my own, they’ll have to catch me first 😉. 😂
If you spent your time (most plants take years), money, and knowledge making, developing, enhancing, renovating, etc., something, wouldn't you want and expect recognition and rights to your work? Plant patents are no different. The originals are indeed gifts from God, but these hybrids are inventions from individuals (if you don't consider these hybrids their "inventions," what do you consider them?) and rightfully belong to them, just as the originals belong to God.
Wanting to ensure you get your just dues if others are going to market and make a fortune off your work is not greed. Greed wouldn't allow them to have no issue with propagation for personal use. That is a gift…from the inventors. 😉