I'm getting a huge amount out of the critical theory workshop videos. I've only been watching these videos for a few months only but they have very much influenced my thinking already. I would have liked more questions directed at Immanuel, in particular regarding non-US temporary migration - after all I thought the program is about his book. We have this type of temporary "migration" here in Australia I believe. There were over 150,000 Nepalese born people living in Australia at the end June 2022 for example. Five times the number since 2012. Most I believe work in the gig economy. Their plight I don't think are at all well documented. I understand that Raul is this really "famous" and "important" person that must be heard. But surely one can give him a chance on a separate program? Just a comment. I know a few Nepalese working in a local supermarket that I use. They have little legal rights it seems and I don't believe they get much out of the whole endeavour. There certainly is a large working underclass in Australia that doesn't get even acknowledged by anyone really living here.
Right-wingers need to watch this video. Immigration is a much more complex issue than what it is, it's not a simple issue/problem like they think it is.
The paradox is that northern right-wingers (fascists) are against migration, the pseudo-liberal capitalists or in favor of migration, because it means cheap workers to them. A leftist critic of migration as a form of imperialism will find himself on the side of the neo-fascists in northern Europe. This is schizophrenic...
Rightwing W corporations & their govs themselves use economic & military attacks vs.?those countries to PRODUCE migrants/refugees to work in rich W countries as cheap, at times illegal labor.Other rightists like to have migrants as racial political scapegoats.
here's one of the many things though, its actually the liberal establishment that are fudging the facts around this issue. Here in Ireland for instance, much like say Canada, the government at times flat out denies that any of this is happening at the same time as a collapse of the social contract around things such as affordable healthcare, inflation, housing etc. and when they cannot deny it they pull out left-wing identity politic slogans as trump cards to quell genuine grievances. I actually agree with people such as Chomsky who have said for decades that the growth of the right has been facilitated by a corrupt liberal class but this has evolved now where the left are strangely covering up for the state in return for the scraps of their own minor identity issues. This is all my way of saying that if you were to watch this video from the point of view of what is now called "right wing viewpoints" from the view of the left it would actually be more in line with a basis in common reasoning than the far-left ideology which has now just gone off-spectrum.
How do you distinguish between a global “reserve army of labor” and a national form of the same? I’m thinking specifically of Marta Russell’s work, concepts like NAIRU, etc etc. It seems generally managed nationally, while Capital simply moves from country to country in the Periphery like a plague of locusts (eg the current shift from China to India).
The strange thing is that if you put on the funhouse mirror goggles of what is now the modern left, this discussion would be misconstrued as being far-right!
Dear Prof Delgado Wise, we have known that the ideology of capitalism leads to fascism and the creation of scapegoats (incl. xenophobia) since Horkheimer and Adorno wrote their book "Dialektik der Aufklärung". The development of capitalism is a dialectical movement. The theory of the "charity racket" should be supported today by a theory of the "migration racket". But the important question remains: How do you plan to fight against this???
Pro-Migration in a capitalist state means pro-capitalist (that is pro-imperialism). Anti-Imperialist thinking would seem to imply then anti-Migration policy. Most of the workers who think they will have a better life in a capitalist state are wrong. If they migrate from one capitalist third World country to a first-world capitalist country I don't think this movement should be supported by left theory thinkers.
But- W Euro demographers fear that their native populations are fir various reasons, slowing or worse, & thise countries need more workers/taxpayers, etc Anti iimmigrant faction seems to want to keep cultural purity which may harm themselves. They want to drown on their culturally pure sinking ship (of state?) ? Do they realize their real dilemma?
@@samaval9920 "Cultural purity" is part of the nonsense of current capitalist ideology. Fascism is a by-product of capitalist development. The surplus population in the rich countries does not see where the problem lies. - I suppose the underlying topic is if you are pro-capitalist or contra-capitalist. If you believe that capitalism is another word for freedom and welfare, security and general joy of life then of course you will support the owners of capital to increase their rates of exploitation etc. I take it though that Critical Theory of Society is opposed to capitalism; therefore what is good for the owners cannot be good for the exploited people. Even a strike-breaker could improve his personal lifestyle by going to work for a factory owner. What the Third-World countries need is not a program for joint ventures etc. The only development that could help them would be a new Che Guevara.
@@gmmaal7161 Just a suggestion … there is no “surplus population” among the working class, whether they’re racist ideologues committed to fascist ideology or not. Capitalism functioning exactly as intended in the medium and long-term has the well-known side-effect of creating great masses of surplus production; due to the constant production of goods and services by means of the extraction of surplus value from the labor power of the working class people, large quantities of surplus production results that the working class simply cannot afford to consume. This surplus needs to be destroyed or eliminated in some manner. There are never surplus laborers. A socialist economy would not produce this paradoxical effect. Another way of describing this situation which is preferable to the capitalist ideologues manner of blaming the workers for their own situation in an exploitative system of economic production is to describe the exploitative capitalist system of production as resulting in a massive deficit of demand. This amounts to the same thing as “surplus production” except it looks at it from the point of view about what to do with all the labor time that both produces something of value but nothing tangible that must itself be stored or destroyed … actions which raise troubling questions among the working class (why do we have hungry homeless people with all this surplus food and shelter?). Yanis Varoufakis has pointed out the danger presented by the current new cloud capitalists who have found a new way to try to absorb the demand deficit … by creating the ever-expanding domain of interactive media which both absorbs the time of the working class with little or no cost to the capitalists, and produces something of value for them (interactive media users make … and data … lots and lots of data to sell) but for which the capitalists pay little or nothing in return. There are millions of hours of labor every day contributing to the value of the new cloud capitalists for which they pay nothing, and for which they seem to charge little or nothing to many users. While the sheer volume of it makes them wealthy in a way that Varoufakis says is new. Anyway … just a little point, citizen!
@@B_Estes_Undegöetz Thank you for pointing out the current greek author. I am not convinced though that "Technofeudalism" killed Capitalism. Capitalism is alive and well and more international than ever before. The left wing is suffering from ethical stupidity, a pan-Catholic "Weltbild" from the Middle Ages. If the Left won't overcome this stupidity crisis, everything seems lost or in vain.
Guy, please don't read at length, this isn't a university lecture. The video ends for most people at 27:00 ,because the talking stops and sleep medicine begins. You must be able to express the concepts of written work in relatable conversation or speech making. Someone reading from a book over video is unlistenable and unwatchable.
I'm getting a huge amount out of the critical theory workshop videos. I've only been watching these videos for a few months only but they have very much influenced my thinking already. I would have liked more questions directed at Immanuel, in particular regarding non-US temporary migration - after all I thought the program is about his book. We have this type of temporary "migration" here in Australia I believe. There were over 150,000 Nepalese born people living in Australia at the end June 2022 for example. Five times the number since 2012. Most I believe work in the gig economy. Their plight I don't think are at all well documented. I understand that Raul is this really "famous" and "important" person that must be heard. But surely one can give him a chance on a separate program? Just a comment. I know a few Nepalese working in a local supermarket that I use. They have little legal rights it seems and I don't believe they get much out of the whole endeavour. There certainly is a large working underclass in Australia that doesn't get even acknowledged by anyone really living here.
Right-wingers need to watch this video. Immigration is a much more complex issue than what it is, it's not a simple issue/problem like they think it is.
The paradox is that northern right-wingers (fascists) are against migration, the pseudo-liberal capitalists or in favor of migration, because it means cheap workers to them. A leftist critic of migration as a form of imperialism will find himself on the side of the neo-fascists in northern Europe. This is schizophrenic...
Rightwing W corporations & their govs themselves use economic
& military attacks vs.?those countries to PRODUCE migrants/refugees to work in rich W countries as cheap, at times illegal labor.Other rightists like
to have migrants as racial political scapegoats.
But unfortunately there are no votes in taking a nuanced approach to a complex problem
Left-liberals need to watch it more. They're in denial that mass displacement assists capitalism.
here's one of the many things though, its actually the liberal establishment that are fudging the facts around this issue. Here in Ireland for instance, much like say Canada, the government at times flat out denies that any of this is happening at the same time as a collapse of the social contract around things such as affordable healthcare, inflation, housing etc. and when they cannot deny it they pull out left-wing identity politic slogans as trump cards to quell genuine grievances. I actually agree with people such as Chomsky who have said for decades that the growth of the right has been facilitated by a corrupt liberal class but this has evolved now where the left are strangely covering up for the state in return for the scraps of their own minor identity issues. This is all my way of saying that if you were to watch this video from the point of view of what is now called "right wing viewpoints" from the view of the left it would actually be more in line with a basis in common reasoning than the far-left ideology which has now just gone off-spectrum.
How do you distinguish between a global “reserve army of labor” and a national form of the same? I’m thinking specifically of Marta Russell’s work, concepts like NAIRU, etc etc. It seems generally managed nationally, while Capital simply moves from country to country in the Periphery like a plague of locusts (eg the current shift from China to India).
It's not as simple as Migration bad v Migration Good.
The strange thing is that if you put on the funhouse mirror goggles of what is now the modern left, this discussion would be misconstrued as being far-right!
Dear Prof Delgado Wise, we have known that the ideology of capitalism leads to fascism and the creation of scapegoats (incl. xenophobia) since Horkheimer and Adorno wrote their book "Dialektik der Aufklärung". The development of capitalism is a dialectical movement. The theory of the "charity racket" should be supported today by a theory of the "migration racket". But the important question remains: How do you plan to fight against this???
Pro-Migration in a capitalist state means pro-capitalist (that is pro-imperialism). Anti-Imperialist thinking would seem to imply then anti-Migration policy. Most of the workers who think they will have a better life in a capitalist state are wrong. If they migrate from one capitalist third World country to a first-world capitalist country I don't think this movement should be supported by left theory thinkers.
But- W Euro demographers fear that their native populations are
fir various reasons, slowing or
worse, & thise countries need more workers/taxpayers, etc
Anti iimmigrant faction seems to want to keep cultural purity which
may harm themselves. They want to drown on their culturally pure
sinking ship (of state?) ? Do they realize their real dilemma?
@@samaval9920 "Cultural purity" is part of the nonsense of current capitalist ideology.
Fascism is a by-product of capitalist development. The surplus population in the rich countries does not see where the problem lies. - I suppose the underlying topic is
if you are pro-capitalist or contra-capitalist.
If you believe that capitalism is another word for freedom and welfare, security and general joy of life
then of course you will support
the owners of capital to increase their rates of exploitation etc.
I take it though that Critical Theory of Society
is opposed to capitalism; therefore what is good for the owners cannot be good for the exploited people.
Even a strike-breaker could improve his personal lifestyle
by going to work for a factory owner.
What the Third-World countries need is not a program
for joint ventures etc. The only development that could help
them would be a new Che Guevara.
@@gmmaal7161 Just a suggestion … there is no “surplus population” among the working class, whether they’re racist ideologues committed to fascist ideology or not. Capitalism functioning exactly as intended in the medium and long-term has the well-known side-effect of creating great masses of surplus production; due to the constant production of goods and services by means of the extraction of surplus value from the labor power of the working class people, large quantities of surplus production results that the working class simply cannot afford to consume. This surplus needs to be destroyed or eliminated in some manner. There are never surplus laborers. A socialist economy would not produce this paradoxical effect.
Another way of describing this situation which is preferable to the capitalist ideologues manner of blaming the workers for their own situation in an exploitative system of economic production is to describe the exploitative capitalist system of production as resulting in a massive deficit of demand. This amounts to the same thing as “surplus production” except it looks at it from the point of view about what to do with all the labor time that both produces something of value but nothing tangible that must itself be stored or destroyed … actions which raise troubling questions among the working class (why do we have hungry homeless people with all this surplus food and shelter?). Yanis Varoufakis has pointed out the danger presented by the current new cloud capitalists who have found a new way to try to absorb the demand deficit … by creating the ever-expanding domain of interactive media which both absorbs the time of the working class with little or no cost to the capitalists, and produces something of value for them (interactive media users make … and data … lots and lots of data to sell) but for which the capitalists pay little or nothing in return. There are millions of hours of labor every day contributing to the value of the new cloud capitalists for which they pay nothing, and for which they seem to charge little or nothing to many users. While the sheer volume of it makes them wealthy in a way that Varoufakis says is new.
Anyway … just a little point, citizen!
@@B_Estes_Undegöetz Thank you for pointing out the current greek author. I am not convinced though that "Technofeudalism" killed Capitalism.
Capitalism is alive and well and more international than ever before. The left wing is suffering from ethical stupidity, a pan-Catholic "Weltbild" from the Middle Ages. If the Left won't overcome this stupidity crisis, everything seems lost or in vain.
hmmm
Guy, please don't read at length, this isn't a university lecture. The video ends for most people at 27:00 ,because the talking stops and sleep medicine begins. You must be able to express the concepts of written work in relatable conversation or speech making. Someone reading from a book over video is unlistenable and unwatchable.
These professors may have the charm of Rip Van Winkle - they will not solve any problems now.