Why a Sonic Heroes Remake is a WASTE
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- Hi all, welcome to the newest installment of the Court of Lord Joe reviews some game series. I think people probably care about this one, so I'm taking a line in the sand and saying Sonic Heroes is bad. Also The Thousand Year Door is worse than both the orignial Paper Mario and Super Paper Mario. And Majora's Mask was not that good.
What was I talking about? Oh yeah, Dawntrail comes out soon and I will be no lifeing that so I wouldn't expect any more substatntial reviews for a while, so I'm not dead, just dead inside as I try to level BARD. Uhhhhhggghh, I'm still like 10 job quests behind, I hate this job. - Ігри
the title alone made me watch.
the video made me subscribe.
hello there Court Of Lord Joe , although i'm understand your point from the video , except i believe a remake can be done with certain ideas regarding how to fix this game, and here is how
first the campaign structure , and here i think some thing need to be said in regards to playing the game four times and that , IT CAN BE HANDLED in a different way that is FAR MORE TOLERABLE and makes it good enough to complete the game, in which each team still has its own campaign but with only certain levels, not all of them, which from my perspective go like this
Team Sonic : Seaside Hill, Ocean Palace, Grand Metropolis, Power Plant, Casino Park, Bingo Highway, Rail Canyon, Bullet Station, Frog Forest, Lost Jungle, Hang Castle, Mystic Mansion, Egg Fleet, and Final Fortress
Team Dark : Seaside Hill, Ocean Palace, Casino Park, Bingo Highway, Hang Castle, Mystic Mansion, Egg Fleet, and Final Fortress
Team Chaotix : Grand Metropolis, Power Plant, Rail Canyon, Bullet Station, Frog Forest, Lost Jungle, Egg Fleet, and Final Fortress
other than that, i think that team rose should be some sort of a side story that is optional to play, meaning that you'll have only 3 teams with the entire game being played for over a little bit more than twice rather than four times to unlock the final boss, an other thing i want to point out something that has to do with none other than the level design
i don't know how you'll feel about that, but while i'm with sonic heroes stages being the way they are, i understand though that for a lot of people, this is one of those things that do not sit well with them, especially in regards to how flat the level design is, that no matter how good or engaging each level flow is , that level that feel like flat space with a certain amount of level geometry, repetitive sections of each level, along with a very restrictive amount of alternate paths , just take away from the experience for a lot of people
how ever
a certain fan game i stumbled upon named Sonic World DX, "which did a FANTASTIC job making many characters feel like an unique style of game while still being able to go fast", has what i believe one of, if not the best versions of seaside hill i've ever seen , you may be surprised if i told you this, but aside from the fact that this fan game has the team based mechanic , that seaside hill i'm talking about has SOOOOOO much going on , from alternate paths, open spaces, taking advantage of different character types, it's so good that i found myself spending a lot of time playing this fan made version of the stage that i'm till finding out about many ways how to go across the level, which far surprass any stage from sonic heroes, which show what heroes could've truly been , had it more development time rather than what they did to lizuka who lost over 22 pounds working on the game and nearly lost his life, which is some thing he never deserved to go through,
so , what if a remake can have that much quality in level design, while here is my ideas
for Ocean Palace, Power Plant, Bingo Highway, Bullet Station, and Lost Jungle, those levels should follow some thing along the lines of a well balanced approach of speed, platforming, and exploration, where there quite a number of paths to come across , with a lot but good amount of open space and engaging level geometry to go through, allowing for far more creativity of going through those levels, those levels would be the biggest challenge to deal with, specially Bullet station which would require the biggest over haul of them all, but i don't think it can not be pulled off
for Seaside Hill, Grand Metropolis, Casino Park, Rail Canyon, Frog Forest, Hang Castle, Mystic Mansion, Egg Fleet, and Final Fortress, those stages should follow some thing along the lines of a speed, and platforming balanced approach, exploration on the other hand would be far little present, regulated mostly for secret areas, while those stages would be a different challenge of their own, but i think they are easier to deal with, Hang Castle, Mystic Mansion, and Final Fortress, would require a lot of over haul though
and those are my ideas, what are your thoughts about it , don't forget to talk about it in a reply though
Wow! Those are alot of ideas! And while I do agree with most of your approach to improve the design, it sounds like you are proposing huge, sweeping changes to the game, which I don't think any company would really be willing to do in a remake. The point of most remakes are just to bring older games up to a modern standard though mostly graphical fidelity and usually updated controls. I think your ideas would be better served in a Sonic Heroes sequel instead! I don't think Sonic Heroes is a bad idea on paper, the point of my video was that the game made poor choices in its initial design that would make remaking the game basically pointless because of how deeply ingrained these issues are. So while I love the passion, Sonic Heroes needs to be iterated upon, not fixed.
Guys don't hold me to this statement but...
I think he hates this game
I think there's only one game so far that gets the official seal of approval. Maybe it was a pokemon one?
It was Saya No Uta if memory serves
I loved wrapping the video up on the plane; I had never noticed but they dang sure do abandon that plane lightning fast. Young me always just thought 'Well, Tails can fly and Sonic can run on water, so why would they need a plane?'. I agree though, I'm not a big fan of remaking a bunch of older titles just for nostalgic sake; make a new game, with those ideas that you liked, and improve upon the design.
Just imagine if they did to Sonic Heros what they've done to Final Fantasy 7; this game, now becoming 3 in depth versions. I shudder to think.
Yeah, but just think of it. They could split Sonic Heroes into 4 games and they would all be the exact same game! It just prints money!
Not sure how you possibly thing Sonic Team of all people would try to make a sonic heroes remake on the lv of final fantasy 7.
Sonic team does rely on nostalgia but you dont see them really remake a lot of their older games. SA1 SA2 and Sonic heroes have all been left in limbo without going beyond the PS3 for the most part.
Sonic heroes doesn’t need a remake compared to many other sonic games
Also, appreciate the Saw shoutout lol
John Saw is a funnier character than we've ever had before, if we could only get him working...
Oh boy, my favorite. Having to play a game multiple times for no reason whatsoever. That's enough for me to say Sonic Heroes can remain forgotten to time.
And you're right. Majora's Mask wasn't that good.
Wow! People actually DO read the description. (sorry you had to read that)
3:15 Actually this is a translation error
Rouge was suppose to ask: Hey Omega, do you think Shadow is a robot?
That... makes alot of sense. I actually looked into the translation a little bit, but didn't find this. Good to know.
@@courtoflordjoe7212
Plus if you go back and watch Team Dark's opening you you see Rouge hear Omega say: "Must Eliminate all Eggman Robot" when attacking Shadow
Plus seeing dead Shadow androids in rail canyon she questions if the Shadows she's with this game is an Android so what's why the question comes up
@@NexalZita It's still fairly pointless in the context of this game and only exists to be followed up on in an arguably much worse game.
I love this game personnaly. People hate SH for the controls which is a valid point but SH is a puzzle game kind of. It's not your typical Adventure formula or the Boost formula, the game has complex mecanism with the 3 playable characters and a level design that works very well with the gameplay, it's my all time favorite Sonic game and I would love to have a remake (that is not simplified plz). Still respect your opinion tho
Well… I guess the joke’s on you. I actually enjoyed the switching mechanic. I fail to see how else you can play as a team without one on a single player control.
I really tried to like Heroes. I really did. I wanted to love the game that got me into Sonic as a kid, but it's just not good... And that sucks 😔
Why is it so baddd?
Sonic in a nutshell
Sonic Adventure be like:
@@RealCaptainPingu Why is it so glitchyyy??! -SA 1
S3&K???
You lost me on Team Dark's analysis.
They were setting up for the plot of Shadow's game.
...ok?
Youd think this is stating the obvious, but regardless, im glad you went out of your way to say it
Heroes is awesome
The Sonic Heroes the fandom deserves, but not the one it needs right now
Hey, come on, the Sonic fan base has chilled out significantly since its early cringe days. Plus they're the ones putting out all the best Sonic games nowadays, so they're cool in my book. They are no longer the most cringe community on the internet.
@@courtoflordjoe7212for it’s time it was cool & it still is cool for new audiences that never got the chance to play it. This game is actually why I became a fan of sonic. I started watching The Cartoons , read a couple of comics , started watching parodies such as Sonic Volume on YT. It also made me understand their personalities all in one game. Yes a couple parts were frustrating because of how long or hard the matches are but it’s a Valid Story.
@@courtoflordjoe7212they were never cringe only the deviant art people
@@Faisalthefist Cringe Squad
that's the difference between a remaster and a remake, it would actually need a remake
isn't the game being garbage more reason for it to get a remake too
i mean if they did make the story a bit better made gameplay better and added pc port the game could be fine
3:08 Cause it makes sense? Why wouldn't Eggman have an army of Shadows?