New Wave of Traditional Heavy Metal Albums w/ Sarah Kitteringham
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- Опубліковано 7 лис 2022
- We've got 2 Sarah reviews going up this month so what better time than now to upload Sarah and my's tier list of the New Wave of Traditional Heavy Metal from earlier this year!
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can we get a list of the albums in the description or pinned comment? sometimes the parts of the tier list get covered. Thanks!
I concur!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wouldnt say that thrash was part of the NWOTHM, It's 'Traditional Heavy Metal'. Plus saying that thrash was revived before heavy metal I don't know if I agree with either since there were bands like The Great Weird Slough Feg and Sweden's Wolf around in the late 90's or Magnesium from Japan. Those were new at the time and kinda forerunners to the NWOTHM. Thanks for a great episode!
It felt like there was a retro thrash movement before a NWOTHM movement. You are right about Wolf and such, but still.
And let's not forget Hammerfall...
Holy shit, how in the hell did a Canadian metal website leave out STRIKER here?!?
Particularly, with Sarah being from WESTERN Canada?!?!?
Hi! I like that format a lot, but would it be possible to post your results in a different format than video only? It is sometimes hard to find out which bands/albums you chose, because the name could not be understood or the band cover is unknown to me! Thanks a lot! Bang on!!
Sarah is just incorrect enforcer is beyond awesome
Where does she talk about Enforcer. I don't feel like sitting through the whole thing.
Enforcer Cauldron Skull Fist and White Wizzard should be legends in my opinion
Absolutely. Especially Enforcer.
Yeah I was shocked White Wizzard wasn’t mentioned! They were definitely one of the most visible NWOTHM bands at the start!!
My two favorite BANGER TV personalities, bar none. Love you both!
Not finished with the video yet but I feel like Midnight is a giant influence on this whole scene even without fitting into the genre. Also; Stallion, Magister Templi, Argus, Dawnbringer and High Spirits.
Great bands, though I'd argue that Midnight is to the NWOTHM what Venom is to the NWOBHM. It's just a different sound than what you'd expect from the genre.
@@Flo1984100 Agree. Don't belong in the genre but I think they've had an influence on it.
Visigoth - Conquerers Oath
Eternal Champion - "The Armor of Ire"
Those albums blew me away. The best NWoTHM albums of the 2010s.
Also…what the hell happened to HOLY GRAIL??? Crisis in Utopia was 2010!!!! And James Paul Luna is one of the best vocalists in the genre!!!!
I was honestly really stoked on this episode and have been waiting for it…but now I’m kinda pissed. Lol
Hate to be that guy and I agree with about 99% of the list but Enforcer's From Beyond should definitely be on this list as it is in my opinion the best off all the non-proto albums featured here. It's the album that got me hard into NWoTHM. This was a super fun stream, keep up the good work!
Was just listening to that album last week.
From Beyond should be essential. That or Death By Fire
Indeed. Personally I'd put it in Legend be fore Eternal Champion. Yes EC is popular and cool an they got kickass songs but From Beyond is a better overall record than any of EC's release. Much more multi dimensional and feels more mature in its songwriting. I dig EC don't get me wrong, I just think From Beyond is simply the best record of all the NWoTHM, period. Just my opinion tho that being said I wouldn't take EC off the legend tier either.
@@MetalPersonJyes one of those two should’ve made it
@@lemmykilmister1239 eternal champion isn't a legend, its just a bootleg of a legend 4 times xeroxed.
I feel like I’m taking Crazy Pills. Night Demon’s Curse Of The Damned came out in 2015, is 100% Heavy Metal, and every song is a fucking straight killer. I can safely say it got more people into NWOTHM and even older metal and bands like Riot than most of the bands mentioned.
Night Demon is insanely great. One of the most underrated bands of the past 10-ish years.
I finally got around to watching this video (work sucks) and it took so long to get through the stream because I kept stopping to listen to bands and albums talked about or that this video made me think about. As much as I love every other genre of heavy metal trad and power metal are special for me. Love this stuff.
No Enforcer on the list. Well….. that’s just unfair, that band rocks and it’s been around putting out good records for quite long time now.
Enforcer started out as Speed Metal, then they became Hair Metal. Never really Traditional Metal, too fast, and not too Pop
Olofs vocals aren't bad enough to warrant the hate. List is incomplete without Enforcer
Sarah! Can confidently assume this will be better researched than 99% of Blayne streams. No offence, ya dork!
She and Popoff are always the best hosts/guests on this channel. Articulate walking metal encyclopedias.
Amazing, love you guys!
Can someone list the final album choices in the comments? Having trouble reading the covers...
I think Sarah has fantastic taste in heavy metal so I'll be checking out the bands she mentions that I've not heard yet.
I hate to say it but I don't know how much new heavy metal I'd be listening to if it weren't for NWOTHM and traditional doom
Awesome topic and awesome choices! Hails from Serbia! 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Glad that you mentioned Inepsy! Among my fav canadian bands (with Razor!)
I would say it started in the late 90‘s shortly after the Power Metal hype of the 2nd half of the 90‘s. Bands like Metal Inquisitor and Ram, that showed influence of Manilla Road and Mercyful Fate instead of Helloween. Of course the Rise of Keep it True was important.
Also people forget the first wave of retro thrash in the early 2000 with Witchery and Carnal Forge.
Also Evile and Warbringer.
Ambush, Skull Fist (Not their last two albums), White Wizzard (Especially The Devil's Cut album), and Enforcer. Those are my favourites.
Chasing the dream by skullfist is a MASTERPIECE
What Blayne said about Night Demon I feel about Death’s 2nd and 3rd albums. I really like it whenever they’re playing fast in a song and whenever they slow down in a song, I’m like speed back up.
I Put Dio in a special category no one talks about how he started with doo wop and rockabilly music no one talks about the electric elves kind of being a jam band or even the band elf for that matter being more in the lines of a deep purple kind of band and then comes rainbow and then comes Black Sabbath epic heavy metal is something he did halfway through his career and he practically invented it
He never "evolved" passed that. When he found metal he stayed with it until the end.
@@MetalPersonJ dio really came through with his sound in style when he was simply just Dio unlike with rainbow showcasing Richie Blackmore's talent as a guitarist outside of deep purple or his years with Sabbath where he moved them out of like the Doom metal aesthetic, his Dio material is so intrinsically him and that's what I find absolutely incredible
Significant Point Shirt, great! Love the bands from Dying Victims.
I struggle to fully grasp what New Wave of Traditional Heavy Metal is all about. Until watching the video, I thought it's Skull Fist, Enforcer, Cauldron, Night Demon, or Haunt, while strangely I would never have counted Portrait (for instance), which I guess is kind of arbitrary. I love the latter while the first-mentioned bands don't do much for me. I have to admit, bands like Iron Griffin, Atlantean Kodex, Eternal Champion, or Smoulder - all of which I absolutely love - are a very different thing for me. I guess what I want to say is, I love epic heavy and traditional doom metal and there are newer traditional (heavy) metal bands I love, while many I can do without. I'm not sure whether I need an umbrella term for more traditional metal subgenres.
The video introduced me to Grendel's Syster - an awesome band! Slough Feg vibes, but still very much their own thing. Thanks for the recommendation!
How the hell do you forget wolf. Definitely should be in the Proto. The first album literally came out in 1999
Wolf was not NWOTHM, they were totally retro Metal, that offered absolutely nothing new. Great band though
HAMMERFALL should be proto for this List.
Claymorean deserve a mention! one of the best bands of this movement, from Serbia.
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I'd say the new wave of traditional heavy metal began with the new wave of doom/doom-like bands/ and proto-metal that started around... I mean it picked up steam around 2010 or so, but I'd give a lot of credit to bands like Witchcraft. Granted the new wave of thrash opened the door to the possibility of trad metal and doom to come back.
Maybe I'm ignorant, but I always thought of Visigoth and Eternal Champion as North American Power Metal rather than NWOTHM, which I associate with bands like RAM, High Spirits and Heavy Sentence
When was this one recorded?
Someone really needs to write the list of bands mentioned out 😂
I know, right!!!
Go for it
Watch the video, pick up a pen and go for it
watching this a year after the fact and still womdering where the hell is White Wizzard High Speed GTO!!?? It was released in 2009!
Elevator pitch for trad metal: OSR for Heavy Metal!
A bit surprised there was no mention of the new Bleed From Within album. Probably too mainstream for the BangerTV bunch.
On the note of In Solitude's legacy, i.e. Unto Others, Beastmilk, etc; ...if you're a fan of that, do know about the Publicist UK record from 2015 or so. Its called Forgive Yourself. If you don't check it out, you won't forgive yourself. I won't, anyway.
I really expected to see Enforcer in here. Maybe they left them out because they're not american. But they're definetely one of the strongest banda out there right now
Speed Metal
I love this channel you guys are the real deal ! Enpsyclho speedias of metal an all its pigeon holes therein! I do however find it concerning that in the realm of technical speed/thrash , Coroner is not mentioned more! They actually were a band before Celtic Frost! Also ive never heard mention of Atheist! the album Piece of time can not be overlooked for its technical brilliance or brutality
I saw Ghost in Hellfest 2012 they were playing at 11AM in the Valley. I hated it from the beginning, was out after 15mn.
I have to check out Enforcer coz so many here say it was unfairly left out....
Start with Death By Fire or From Beyond
I'm extremely late but Twisted Tower Dire should've been in the proto column
Iron spell should get some metal love.. those guys rule.. my favorite of this genre however is night demon..
Who is the Anderson fella and where can I find his NWOTHM UA-cam channel?
PS - Emotional Suicide was the best Trad Metal album released this year.
Never understood why you get so much shit for not liking Ghost. They started out making music that appealed to me... then they stopped making music like that, so I stopped listening. Simple as that. But I definitely feel what Sarah says about sameyness in the genre. If I see a band with like... night killer (im sure there is one), with neon font, a deloreon or something on the cover, I'm passing on it SO HARD. Same with a band that blatantly wants to be the next Eternal Champion, but thats less fair.
Sarah kitteringham Amazing 🤘..windsor ontario canada 🇨🇦
Did not know there were still good American bands, haven't been keeping up with most American metal (except the classic Thrash, Death and some black metal bands) since the early 2000's in my teens and deeming most American metal (or even Canadian in some ways) not for me. Glad to see the European influence now haha
Wow if this isn't one of the douchiest comments I've ever read.
Holy shit, powerlifting to Eternal Champion is spot on.
I've never done that, but I have gone running to it.
My favorites, in no particular order:
Skull Fist- Chasing the Dream
Enforcer - Diamonds
Cauldron - Everything
Borrowed Time and Demon Bitch
Hessian - Mercenary Retrograde
The Lord Weird Slough Feg - Everything
Magister Templi - Everything
Leather Heart - Comeback
Chevalier - Everything so far
Crystal Viper - Crimen Excepta
To Banger, some constructive criticism: I'm really glad you covered this subgenre. But, this new rambling, chatty, over-long Lock Horns format doesn't work well. It's basically an hour of content and an hour of Blayne giggling and rambling. The original series from years ago, with generally more prepared speakers (like Sam with his notes) and a moderator to move things along and keep presenters on topic, was much more helpful and watchable.
If he's still available, you really want to make as much use as possible of Martin Popoff, too. He's a far more knowledgeable, prepared, and articulate public speaker than some of your (guest) hosts. (The guy on the recent Judas Priest Lock Horns, for example, added almost literally nothing to the conversation but just sat there.)
Sounds as though you're using "traditional" as shorthand for all non-extreme styles of metal. Not entirely sure that's very useful, at least not heuristically so.
I mean in what sense is power metal "traditional"? I'm very familiar with it because I was a teenager in Europe in the 1990s, but apparently someone as knowledgeable as Sam hadn't even heard of it until he started doing research for his first documentary!
I wish the palate cleanser albums were metal-adjacent releases like sludge, noise rock, heavy psych, etc., but I'm glad folks enjoy HM even if I personally don't.
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Stuttering Blayne
I like Riot City. I like Riot City a lot.
Her tattoos really look like they prove that she is a major fan of metal, that's so cool to get tattoos to signify your fandom and subcultural identity!!! 26:29 😮
TWISTED TOWER DIRE! \M/
Seems like you guys are conflating traditional heavy metal itself with NWOTHM by putting Rainbow Rising in the "Proto" category. It's a staggeringly good album, sure, but if anything, it was proto for the original birth of metal as we know it, not the nostalgia-fueled, decades-removed NWOTHM scene. (I'm not sure "nostalgia" exactly applies since it looks like most all the guys in the movement are too young to have even been around in the 80's. But at least they discovered all that great music after the fact and are helping revive and honor those styles.)
Insane how Wolf, THE BAND that kicked off NWOTHM never even got brought up once.
👏 agree
Rainbow as proto is so stupid. Even if Rising is the best album ever
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Blayne needs to do more research before he opens his mouth !
He's really more into the doomy, creepy sides. That's why they have Sarah.
well now that I got all this new metal, I`m gonna go powerlift
Wish I could reeead the list as well
My list would look much different. Rainbow as a proto NWOTHM band? Rainbow & Riot have nothing directly to do with the birth of NWOTHM. You categorize Cauldron (who started in 2006) as a "proto-NWOTHM" band but you completely ignore WOLF (Sweden), who was active in the 90s and can be credited in part for launching the whole movement in Europe as we know that today. You also ignore several influential bands starting before 2010, like Battleroar, Ram, Crescent Shield, Metal Inquisitor, While Heaven Wept. There are so many excellent bands missing from the "essential" list in lieu of a lot of mediocrity like Haunt, Enforcer, Night Demon. At that point you may as well add Ambush or Cobra Spell. You make only brief mention of Atlantean Kodex. No mention of Isen Torr that I heard, or Solstice. No mention of Warrior Path and Sacral Rage are missing. I know you cannot include everyone, but you ignored a lot of talent in lieu of quite a bit of drivel. I also disagree strongly with attaching "legendary" to anything from Eternal Champion or Visigoth. Eternal Champion has a few good songs, but is to me is just a heavy metal version of Norway's Tyr. Visigoth have yet to write a song I consider good.
No High Spirits? No Dawnbringer? No Chris Black ANYTHING? Wtfffffff
Sarah is definitely the female Martin Popoff. Anxiously awaiting new flaming slabs of Smoulder anthems.
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I just find it funny that people base their whole identity off of a phase in Dio's music evolution
How is something based on something else only 35 years can be traditional when you miss out on 20 years of Metal.
Thrash is dead?!? BULLSHIT. Critical Defiance, Bonehunter, Plague Years, Warbringer, Wraith, Vektor and Enforced all say differently.
timestamp where they say thrash is dead?
First
No Striker = irrelevant list
The problem with alot of music now is exactly this. Revivalism, pastiche etc. For metal this is bad also, so many bands doing old style stuff, from music right to aesthetics.
Its not new... And when we stop developing new sounds and progressing..... Than our genre dies or loses its relevance at the forefront of music culture.
This is entirely the wrong way to look at it. The past 20-25 years most metal innovations have been awful. The NWOTHM is a glorious reset button. And yeah, maybe once this gets big after 3-4 years they will start to evolve and change things the right way, the denim and leather way, not the backwards baseball cap and spiky hair jumpsuit way.
@@MetalPersonJ you are either above the age of 60 or below the age of 12 with that comment. Metal isn't about fashion. And the fashions it does have have been many. Nobody wants a return to goofy 80s iron maiden looks. Those hair cuts were awful, as were the spandex. You can't reset anything. If somethings been done. It's done. Most modern bands trying the old sound can't hold a candle to Judas Priest.
As for the jump suits and backwards caps. That's also very old now but again, it was a great sound.
With all the technology and pedals today. You'd think bands would be more creative. Yet they revert to pastiche of old. Making metal irrelevant whilst other genres progress with new innovations.
Conqueror's Oath >>>>>>>> Revenant King. Where the hell is Tower's Shock To The System? And the lack of Enforcer takes away any credibility. Too thrashy? That is the stupidest complaint I've ever heard.
They are speed metal way more than they would be thrash metal. Not enough not to be considered NWoHM any Imo. I thought they were supposed to be widely known as a pillar of the genre's revival but I guess I'm crazy. The rest of the list is pretty cool tho
@@lemmykilmister1239 Thats a crock of shit,
Throwing it out there ....saw midnight kreator merciful fate last night in Boston ....gotta say though midnight killed it hails!! the rest were sick also however not a big fan of kreator latest business aye 🤘💯😋