Cho's Q's were either the worst in the world or he was just literally the best at predicting where you'd walk towards. He spent the first 10 minutes missing everything download your thought process.
This match up is not bad for cho, he just bought hp instead of actually usefull items against jayce. Rush tabis wardens mail and your passive will sustain you through anything jayce does. It’s literally a dmg reduction of let’s take lvl 9 jayce stats (93 ad)+phage 15+cull 7 and dorans being 10 so 125 let’s say 131 because of runes. Let’s take lvl 9 cho base armor as well 78+25 from tabis+40 from wardens mail so 143 armor so it’s 100/243x88%x131-15= 32.44 dmg per Auto instead of base armor 73 so 100/173x131=75.72 You essentially half jayces auto dmg, meaning you double the value of your passive, while the hp cho buys here, doesn’t even double his HP and does nothing to increase the power of his passive. It’s 1200+1000 gold vs double Giants belt ruby crystal 900+900+400 So both 2200 gold. Wardens mail is basically a mini legendary item. Rushing heartsteel is also just worse than playing actual dmg items like liandry or riftmaker, which I don’t think I have to run the math on to demonstrate you the dmg difference. It’s literally 6% of someone’s health and 70 ap with a 6% dmg increase for all of your dmg vs heartsteel procc, which is already less than liandry dot and hp scaling on ult. I have been saying this for a while, league players don’t run Math and it shows.
Several things: - Building pure armor is wasted gold against 25% of his damage, which is hammer form E W, both transform autos and Grasp. Cannon transform auto also shreds armor if used correctly. If the Jayce is only cannon stancing then obviously full armor is op. - Tabi and Wardens auto passives are wasted against everything else in Jayce’s kit beside cannon W. If he’s only cannon autoing then obviously they are op - Sitting on that much anti auto gold and delaying your first legendary is tough unless their entire topside is physical auto champs. Actually stats show you can build a cloth and belt into Unending first and do quite well. - Usually your team doesn’t need a Cho rushing an AP legendary. Like it does more damage 1v1, but if you’re not absurdly behind and are able to land a Q, trades with Heartsteel are plenty of damage too.
@@billybobr2e2I didn’t know his E dealt magic dmg. :o That is a point for mr for sure. My guess is aegis is another item up that could be nice. The fact that jayce e does % dmg is another argument against build health. A lot of the tank items either have amazing earlygame components or are just better with high health meaning completing them later is generally better. I think wardens mail despite there being a lot of tank items, has been insanely underrated especially into auto attackers. I didn’t play full tank cho this season yet, but my general idea would be, wardens mail, steelcaps, I think Baus tear item is actually fine because it brings lots of health and cdr while not being as expensive as heartsteel. Though I don’t often find my self having problems with cho gaths mana, so it might not be worth it. My general full build is usually, liandry, riftmaker, armor boots, Unding despair, and fill from that point. Usually it’s just Tank items, like jaksho for full tankyness, but into this team I think movement speed makes sense, so I might just play FON while sitting on the wardens mail till I complete either frozen heart or randuins, which might depend on how much money I have. Frozen heart peels for Allie’s and gives cdr though, so it might just be generally better here since cho doesn’t often need the randuins slow and Q uptime reduces dmg as well. So in short: armor boots, wardens mail, aegis Liandry, riftmaker, FON Frozen Heart. Edit: elixir of iron is probably better here, because it gives you tenacity and very solid bonus ms to Allies. In lower cc games I would probably just play elixir of sorcery because 300 hp is nothing on cho compared to the bonus true dmg and 50 ap.
Now that I see how much magic dmg jayce has in his kit and given that his passive seems to procc tear, I wonder how he does with bloodletters, becoming sort of a double debuffer lategame. Never tested this, but it would enable a 0 pen ally again a 50 mr target 11.11% more dmg and over 22% if they have only pen boots. Considering jayce sometimes becomes a debuffer of tank anyways in lategame, it might be really nice for your mages into tanks. The mask is a pretty solid component anyways, almost no component gives you 6% more Dmg in lategame. Full build would be: cleaver, warlords, the tear item, blood letters last item being situational, but generally something with resistances. Problem with this build is you don’t have a lot of armor or mr, so you would generally have to get it from runes and your kit.
Appreciate the new content Bwipo, but these titles and thumbnails feel unatural and too generic for your personality and your play style. I think the old natural approach to content where you just go through your thought process was more appealing. Eitherway happy to see you back in the content space.
I’m leaving the details such as titles and thumbnails to people that have more experience. While I agree personally, some income is attached to this for them so I want them to have the freedom to do it as they desire.
catching yourself with Orianna at 14:10 - 14:16, good on ya man. That old internet is hard to kick!
Cho's Q's were either the worst in the world or he was just literally the best at predicting where you'd walk towards. He spent the first 10 minutes missing everything download your thought process.
This match up is not bad for cho, he just bought hp instead of actually usefull items against jayce.
Rush tabis wardens mail and your passive will sustain you through anything jayce does. It’s literally a dmg reduction of let’s take lvl 9 jayce stats (93 ad)+phage 15+cull 7 and dorans being 10 so 125 let’s say 131 because of runes.
Let’s take lvl 9 cho base armor as well 78+25 from tabis+40 from wardens mail so 143 armor so it’s 100/243x88%x131-15= 32.44 dmg per Auto instead of base armor 73 so 100/173x131=75.72
You essentially half jayces auto dmg, meaning you double the value of your passive, while the hp cho buys here, doesn’t even double his HP and does nothing to increase the power of his passive.
It’s 1200+1000 gold vs double Giants belt ruby crystal 900+900+400
So both 2200 gold.
Wardens mail is basically a mini legendary item.
Rushing heartsteel is also just worse than playing actual dmg items like liandry or riftmaker, which I don’t think I have to run the math on to demonstrate you the dmg difference. It’s literally 6% of someone’s health and 70 ap with a 6% dmg increase for all of your dmg vs heartsteel procc, which is already less than liandry dot and hp scaling on ult.
I have been saying this for a while, league players don’t run Math and it shows.
Many indeed don't run the numbers. They just follow what X player tells them to, even when it's completely wrong😂
Several things: - Building pure armor is wasted gold against 25% of his damage, which is hammer form E W, both transform autos and Grasp. Cannon transform auto also shreds armor if used correctly. If the Jayce is only cannon stancing then obviously full armor is op. - Tabi and Wardens auto passives are wasted against everything else in Jayce’s kit beside cannon W. If he’s only cannon autoing then obviously they are op - Sitting on that much anti auto gold and delaying your first legendary is tough unless their entire topside is physical auto champs. Actually stats show you can build a cloth and belt into Unending first and do quite well. - Usually your team doesn’t need a Cho rushing an AP legendary. Like it does more damage 1v1, but if you’re not absurdly behind and are able to land a Q, trades with Heartsteel are plenty of damage too.
@@billybobr2e2I didn’t know his E dealt magic dmg. :o
That is a point for mr for sure.
My guess is aegis is another item up that could be nice.
The fact that jayce e does % dmg is another argument against build health.
A lot of the tank items either have amazing earlygame components or are just better with high health meaning completing them later is generally better.
I think wardens mail despite there being a lot of tank items, has been insanely underrated especially into auto attackers.
I didn’t play full tank cho this season yet, but my general idea would be, wardens mail, steelcaps,
I think Baus tear item is actually fine because it brings lots of health and cdr while not being as expensive as heartsteel. Though I don’t often find my self having problems with cho gaths mana, so it might not be worth it.
My general full build is usually, liandry, riftmaker, armor boots, Unding despair, and fill from that point.
Usually it’s just Tank items, like jaksho for full tankyness, but into this team I think movement speed makes sense, so I might just play FON while sitting on the wardens mail till I complete either frozen heart or randuins, which might depend on how much money I have. Frozen heart peels for Allie’s and gives cdr though, so it might just be generally better here since cho doesn’t often need the randuins slow and Q uptime reduces dmg as well.
So in short: armor boots, wardens mail, aegis Liandry, riftmaker, FON Frozen Heart.
Edit: elixir of iron is probably better here, because it gives you tenacity and very solid bonus ms to Allies.
In lower cc games I would probably just play elixir of sorcery because 300 hp is nothing on cho compared to the bonus true dmg and 50 ap.
@@tomwanders6022 fair point but jayce has strong shred and %magic damage
Now that I see how much magic dmg jayce has in his kit and given that his passive seems to procc tear, I wonder how he does with bloodletters, becoming sort of a double debuffer lategame. Never tested this, but it would enable a 0 pen ally again a 50 mr target 11.11% more dmg and over 22% if they have only pen boots. Considering jayce sometimes becomes a debuffer of tank anyways in lategame, it might be really nice for your mages into tanks. The mask is a pretty solid component anyways, almost no component gives you 6% more Dmg in lategame.
Full build would be: cleaver, warlords, the tear item, blood letters last item being situational, but generally something with resistances.
Problem with this build is you don’t have a lot of armor or mr, so you would generally have to get it from runes and your kit.
Damn would have loved to see the damage numbers from this game lol, both dealt and taken. Probably would have been crazy
5:23 that animation 😂
You only get hit by rupture if you’re bad (proceeds to get hit by 2 ruptures and solo’d) 😭 bwipo goated
Kacperek nauczył co ważniejsze po Polsku xd
XDD
The Emperor protects!
07:46 xD
Glad too see that you grew some polish roots, your accent while swearing is not so different from natives :D
nice basil shirt
in tank matchups i would rather max E second
Appreciate the new content Bwipo, but these titles and thumbnails feel unatural and too generic for your personality and your play style. I think the old natural approach to content where you just go through your thought process was more appealing.
Eitherway happy to see you back in the content space.
I’m leaving the details such as titles and thumbnails to people that have more experience. While I agree personally, some income is attached to this for them so I want them to have the freedom to do it as they desire.
is this reupload video?
lethality jayce still more fun