i'm a Kemper owner and on this one i hadn't any doubt which one was the Kemper, it has a midrange naturally that i can always recognize, where the things get way different is if you lower the Tube Shape from 3.3 until you get a similar midrange.
Yeah, I think it has that midrange it naturally imparts. Again, I didn’t tweak it at all to try and recreate the exact sound of the deluxe, but I do think both sound good! Different certainly, but both totally usable.
It was crystal clear for me that the Amp B was the real one, it sounded warmer, clearer and rounder, the high end wasn't so harsh. I own a '65 Deluxe Reverb Reissue and have played and recorded whit it many many many times. I've listened carefully to your demo through my Grado Headphones and I didn't hesitate for a second when I heard the Amp B. Very cool demo! 👌
After owning many high quality amps i'll take kemper any time, that's how good kemper is, absolutely amazing tone machine! You did put great comparison video, proof that the Kemper is great!
I thought A was the real amp, and prefered the clean sound ... I thought B was "Kemper sounding". I own a Kemper and some nice tube amps so I have 0 excuses xD. So my vote for Kemper Stage + Kemper powered cab ...
Heard that! I think it’s easier to distinguish if it’s something you use regularly, but it’s all about preferences and use case. I love my deluxe, but I use the dream more during the week for gigs 🤷🏻♂️
I've been using your Deluxe Reverb profiles since 4 months now. I am a Kemper profile junkie and have collected A LOT of them, but now these profiles went to the top and stayed there. Best Deluxe Reverb Profiles available! The profiles are tagged with only one mic: SM57. This must have been the sweet spot of sweet spots 👍 Sounds perfectly balanced and works great for me!
Sounds like in Amp A coming signal louder then in Amp B. Thats why there more gain and saturation in Amp A. So kemper doing a good job, maybe with some tweaking this profile can sounds exact as real profiled amp, maybe to do this you can turn off all the clarity, definitions ... and compression settings of profile.
That was a fun one. I preferred the sound of amp A in the first two styles, but the third one with the delay I much preferred amp B, it had more headroom and clarity which made the delay and OD sound so much better. Spoilers! . . . . . I assumed B was the Kemper just because it had so much more headroom but I preferred amp A for the clean sounds. Amazed at how good the Kemper sounds clean, but I'm also super impressed at how good the Fender sounded with delay+OD
It doesn't matter. It is about what you yourself are satisfied with. I have several tube amps and they are great. My Kemper is amplified by a Koch ATR-4502 and sounds just as good. The '80s rack effects sound good too. Above all, take the time to tweak everything up.
My friend/guitar tech is 65 years old...I was with Him on Friday night and had My Kemper and My iMac/monitors, etc. Mike has played through almost every amp known to Man....He was floored by how awesome The Kemper is and is considering getting one!!! :) Kemper profilers are awesome. This is a great video,. I love The Deluxe Reverb amp.
I just purchased your Suhr badger profile pack cos it's sound amazing. For this fender blackface profile, have you set up the delay and and drive on the profiles similar to what you showed on the video?
So for the Deluxe, it’s more straightforward. I used an overdrive pedal and delay pedal into the front to show how it takes pedals, and have consistency. The delay/reverb on the Kemper is stereo, so it would’ve been obvious had I used those! The delays/reverbs are set a little different than on the Badger profiles, but you can copy and paste those over to the Deluxe if you like those!
I’ll be honest, I thought the kemper had more presence/high end and therefore sounded better to my ears! Definitely thought amp A was the deluxe in the blind test!
Agreed! I mostly preferred the Kemper in this shootout. Had I tweaked the EQ I could’ve made it sound warmer like the deluxe, but for the purposes of this shootout I wanted to see what the Kemper changed without tweaking it.
so you liked it just because it had more high frequencies? lol to my ears the real amp was so much rounder, warmer and fuller. can hear the aliasing in first demo of kemper as well.
One of the best comparison videos I’ve seen. I actually picked the Kemper. Did you go through the “refinement” step? Wasn’t in the video but you may have cut that for length.
Wow! Thanks for the kind words. Yes, I did cut that. In the video I made about profiling, I show how I go about it. The trick for me is using a guitar/guitars with different pickup combinations. My gold Suhr is my go-to, but sometimes I’ll use my Gibson or tele as well.
That’s an interesting method and I perhaps it’s why the profile sounds so good. The dynamic range of the profile may be adjusted by the “refinement” process and using a combo of pickup combinations would widen that range. Again great work! I just ordered the Kemper Stage and will be buying you profile.
I could tell the difference because you compared them side by side. In a mix it would be almost impossible. How accurate is the kemper in capturing amp character is simply amazing. I played with many high end amp emulations and most of them have a hard time emulating a fender sparkle. Is this a kemper conspiracy?? 😂😂
I agree about presence in a mix, but that also depends on your workflow. If you are running through a ton of plugins in a DAW, then it will make no difference because you are essentially doing what the Kemper does. If you ran an analogue signal chain, you would hear a difference. The creative difference in music production nowadays comes down to more or less pickles on our processed meat/soylent green burger. "Sounds just like a JCM800" Yeah, really? Like the Kemper can recreate the experience of what it's like to stand in front of a JCM800 stack with a guitar in your hands? I don't think so.
Well, I only really gig the Kemper if I’m using in-ears. If it’s a bar, the Kemper cabinet is a great option, but I don’t own one because I usually take amps for those gigs.
If you played one or owned one, you would know. I’ve watched two of your comparison videos now and got the real amp right away. If you can’t hear it, you obviously haven’t spent enough time with it yet. I look forward to someone who can actually appreciate that amp to get it in their possession. Not saying you don’t appreciate it but you’re not ready for the real thing yet. You’re from a different generation, I get it. Kemper, axe fx, helix.. been there. Pretty cool tools for recording if you don’t have the means to record the amps well. As the great Tom Bukovac says, “Big Tone is heavy and Hard to Carry”. In a live situation the kemper is lifeless and not very inspiring to say the least. I’ll stick to my tube amps for now. Believe me, in time you’ll learn to appreciate what you really have there. Excuse me if I sound harsh but I really don’t back down when it comes to my stance on modelling amps, profiling etc. They are what they are. If you want to get inspired by the guitar/amp relationship… play the real thing. Millennials listen up lol. ✌️ P.S yes it’s worth it to keep this deluxe around. ✌️
I hear you, and I can hear the difference, but that doesn’t mean modelers are “bad”. I can get good results with either, but of course I’d rather have the amp right behind me at preferred volume. I get the “millennial” comment because thats the easy dig, but I’ve been lucky enough to always live close to shops with killer amps and be friends with some pretty cool people. I’ve got a lot of experience with a wide variety of amps, new and vintage. Conversely, I’ve never NOT owned an amp. Modeling wasn’t what it is now when I started playing. It makes sense for me to keep the deluxe around, but for someone who doesn’t want to spend $4-$5k on a vintage amp of this caliber, then a modeler or cheaper amp can get them close. The Kemper is great, as is the Dream 65, but they are different. Most guys on the road aren’t in an ideal world where they can bring whatever they want anymore.
@@RiggsTaylor For sure, ✌️ They are close but not convincingly close… I’ve owned a kemper, it was pretty impressive for recording purposes but I always preferred an amp behind me. Much better playing experience unless everyone has to wear IEM’s. I never have nor will I ever have to play those gigs. Again, sorry if I came off sounding harsh. Like most guitarists, it just something I feel strongly towards. If I’m at home, I have no objection to using something like a kemper but it brings me no satisfaction to be honest. Buried in a mix, yeah, for some it’s okay. The most my conscious will allow these days is speaker emulation lol. I enjoyed the meeting and talk you did with Zac Childs.
For this comparison, I left them exactly how the Kemper profiled it! I did a video a couple weeks ago where I tweaked the profiles before comparing the two, using a different amp.
@@tomulator Ah! Yes, I do refine them. Sometimes I’ll even use a couple different guitars/pickup combinations to refine. That’s just me- may sound the same as not, but I think it helps 🤷🏻♂️
I preferred Kemper on single coil edge of breakup tones by a lot, it seems like it's biased hotter and sags a bit more but I'm into that tone for single coils. For humbuckers both tones were very usable. All in all both sound good and in a mix would be hard to tell apart but the part you cant capture in a video is feel because for a player that is as important as sound and I've heard kemper comes close enough. P.S that poor doggy... Imagine the room being so loud you need hearing protection and bringing in a creature with far more sensitive hearing... Be more attentive next time :)
Yeah, the feel factor is very important. I think the Kemper is the best, or at least as good as any modeler in the feel department, but it’s still different than a real amp. The dog didn’t stay in there for long- don’t worry 😉
They were easy to tell apart. The Fender has a fat glow around each note, because it's a valve amp driving a real speaker. There is currently no way to emulate or profile everything that an analogue amp does. But, whether that matters or not is another question. Why not create something different? That's the capability of this technology.
Yeah, modelers are a tool for a job, but I’m much more inspired when I have a loud amp close by! Granted, the audience may not can tell a difference, and that’s who is buying the tickets 🤷🏻♂️
@@andygrove285 I agree. I think that’s the factor people leave out. I play pretty differently with an amp behind me, and I’ve spent hundreds of hours using modelers live too. Even then, still prefer an amp.
I think what I’m noticing (from people I know) is producers/engineers prefer A because that’s the sound they’ll EQ it closer to in a mix. Everyone else has been all over the place.
I heard amp A and immediately thought… that sounds pretty harsh and muddy… I guess it’s just the guitar/player? Then B came around and made a HUGE difference in clarity, definition, mistake forgiveness, roundness/fullness in tone, etc. Guess I’ll be sticking with my tubes.
Interesting! Kemper definitely has more top end and a different midrange character, but keep in mind this was the profile raw with no tweaks. Might do a follow up video tweaking the Kemper to make it a bit more difficult to tell the difference 😉
@@RiggsTaylor that would be cool! I REALLY wanted amp B to be the Kemper because I was just given one today to use indefinitely. I think it’s a cool tool in its own right, but no contest to the real thing.
@@JedBayes I think recorded next to a high-end amp, without any context in a mix, is the most obvious tell. I use both live, and sometimes I’m happier with a Kemper using in-ears and being able to tweak more. But on records, I use amps most of the time 🤷🏻♂️
@@JedBayes I was thinking the same thing.... Funny enough, at the end of the demos I was hoping that Amp B was not the Kemper for to my ears Amp B was superior, sounding more like a tube amp, which it is 😀.. . If I was wrong either, my headphones needed replacing, my ears needed tuning or the modeled amp (taking its sonic cues from the amp it is competing against) somehow sounded noticably better. The best I would think possible (or maybe not) is a match maybe with a little enhancement due to the Kemper's flexibility..... I would be curious to hear the comparison again with the Kemper dialed in.
kemper sounds like a digital recording of an amp. Today, in the world of digital PA systems, you can't really hear the tube amp as the digital mix converts it in digital sound so this is where KEMPER comes relevant. In your bedroom, a tube amp sand way better
Blatantly unfair comparison. You clearly have different gain settings between the 2 amps. If you were playing the Deluxe at the volume at which it was profiled, they might sound the same or even the Deluxe might be better. But you profiled loud but are playing the Deluxe much quieter. Not EVEN the same 5he same and an unfair comparison. Plus it's easy to see AMP A is the Kemper. We can see the input light flashing with signal. You will have to try better if you want it to sound the same.
I think you missed the part where I said I captured/recorded with the exact same amp settings - the mics never even moved, much less the knobs. The point of the comparison was to get ALL of the subtle difference between an unaltered profile and the original amp. I could’ve tweaked to make them closer, but that wasn’t the point. Sharp eye on the blinking input light though!
i'm a Kemper owner and on this one i hadn't any doubt which one was the Kemper, it has a midrange naturally that i can always recognize, where the things get way different is if you lower the Tube Shape from 3.3 until you get a similar midrange.
Yeah, I think it has that midrange it naturally imparts. Again, I didn’t tweak it at all to try and recreate the exact sound of the deluxe, but I do think both sound good! Different certainly, but both totally usable.
It was crystal clear for me that the Amp B was the real one, it sounded warmer, clearer and rounder, the high end wasn't so harsh. I own a '65 Deluxe Reverb Reissue and have played and recorded whit it many many many times. I've listened carefully to your demo through my Grado Headphones and I didn't hesitate for a second when I heard the Amp B. Very cool demo! 👌
Thanks man! Appreciate it. That deluxe is something special for sure.
After owning many high quality amps i'll take kemper any time, that's how good kemper is, absolutely amazing tone machine! You did put great comparison video, proof that the Kemper is great!
Thanks man! Glad you dig it, and agree the Kemper rocks!
All this video has done is make me really want a vintage Deluxe Reverb. So thanks for that! 😂
😂😂 gosh you’re so right. The hype is real.
I thought A was the real amp, and prefered the clean sound ... I thought B was "Kemper sounding". I own a Kemper and some nice tube amps so I have 0 excuses xD. So my vote for Kemper Stage + Kemper powered cab ...
Funny how that works! I definitely want to get my hands on one of the new Kemper powered cabs too.
The Kenner sounded cleaner and more precise every time. Wow!
It’s pretty impressive!
i got it right, the cleans on the 2nd demo was clear as day. Maybe i zone into that because thats my :deluxe sound"
Heard that! I think it’s easier to distinguish if it’s something you use regularly, but it’s all about preferences and use case. I love my deluxe, but I use the dream more during the week for gigs 🤷🏻♂️
I've been using your Deluxe Reverb profiles since 4 months now. I am a Kemper profile junkie and have collected A LOT of them, but now these profiles went to the top and stayed there. Best Deluxe Reverb Profiles available! The profiles are tagged with only one mic: SM57. This must have been the sweet spot of sweet spots 👍 Sounds perfectly balanced and works great for me!
Wow! Thanks so much man. Glad you dig them. I think I definitely found the sweet spot 😎
I got it wrong! I preferred the Kemper profiles to all but the overdriven examples. Cool shootout.
Thanks man! Yeah, I was surprised by the results. The sound different, but I’d be prone to choosing either one based on the song/part.
I like that it sounds identical even with pedals.
Really similar for sure! The Kemper does a great job.
Sounds like in Amp A coming signal louder then in Amp B.
Thats why there more gain and saturation in Amp A.
So kemper doing a good job, maybe with some tweaking this profile can sounds exact as real profiled amp, maybe to do this you can turn off all the clarity, definitions ... and compression settings of profile.
New video coming soon where I profiled another amp, but tweaked the profiles. Subscribe so you don’t miss it!
That was a fun one. I preferred the sound of amp A in the first two styles, but the third one with the delay I much preferred amp B, it had more headroom and clarity which made the delay and OD sound so much better.
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I assumed B was the Kemper just because it had so much more headroom but I preferred amp A for the clean sounds. Amazed at how good the Kemper sounds clean, but I'm also super impressed at how good the Fender sounded with delay+OD
I agree! Great thoughts. I enjoy both quite a bit, but if I’m sitting in the room or recording I usually opt for the Deluxe.
It doesn't matter. It is about what you yourself are satisfied with. I have several tube amps and they are great. My Kemper is amplified by a Koch ATR-4502 and sounds just as good. The '80s rack effects sound good too. Above all, take the time to tweak everything up.
100% agree. It can all sound great!
My friend/guitar tech is 65 years old...I was with Him on Friday night and had My Kemper and My iMac/monitors, etc. Mike has played through almost every amp known to Man....He was floored by how awesome The Kemper is and is considering getting one!!! :) Kemper profilers are awesome. This is a great video,. I love The Deluxe Reverb amp.
Agreed- Kempers are a really cool tool. Love the Deluxe as well- a classic for a reason!
@@RiggsTaylor I am glad it is available for us! Definitely a cool tool. Ever since I tried a Deluixe...it's been a favorite!
I just purchased your Suhr badger profile pack cos it's sound amazing. For this fender blackface profile, have you set up the delay and and drive on the profiles similar to what you showed on the video?
So for the Deluxe, it’s more straightforward. I used an overdrive pedal and delay pedal into the front to show how it takes pedals, and have consistency. The delay/reverb on the Kemper is stereo, so it would’ve been obvious had I used those!
The delays/reverbs are set a little different than on the Badger profiles, but you can copy and paste those over to the Deluxe if you like those!
Also, thanks for the support! Glad you dig the profiles!
B sounds warmer and more full.
I’ll be honest, I thought the kemper had more presence/high end and therefore sounded better to my ears! Definitely thought amp A was the deluxe in the blind test!
Agreed! I mostly preferred the Kemper in this shootout. Had I tweaked the EQ I could’ve made it sound warmer like the deluxe, but for the purposes of this shootout I wanted to see what the Kemper changed without tweaking it.
so you liked it just because it had more high frequencies? lol
to my ears the real amp was so much rounder, warmer and fuller. can hear the aliasing in first demo of kemper as well.
Which do you think sounds better- The '67 Deluxe or the Kemper?!
I'm surprised I liked the Kemper more. Excellent video man! Thanks for making me want a Kemper now haha!
Haha, thanks man! And you’re welcome 😉
I guessed right but the kemper sounded just as good.
Agreed! Both great options!
Kemper is awesome and price too
Fantastic comparison! 🎸
One of the best comparison videos I’ve seen. I actually picked the Kemper. Did you go through the “refinement” step? Wasn’t in the video but you may have cut that for length.
Wow! Thanks for the kind words. Yes, I did cut that. In the video I made about profiling, I show how I go about it. The trick for me is using a guitar/guitars with different pickup combinations. My gold Suhr is my go-to, but sometimes I’ll use my Gibson or tele as well.
That’s an interesting method and I perhaps it’s why the profile sounds so good. The dynamic range of the profile may be adjusted by the “refinement” process and using a combo of pickup combinations would widen that range. Again great work! I just ordered the Kemper Stage and will be buying you profile.
@@jackroswell5839 Thanks so much man! I’m really happy with how it came out. Helps that the amp is so good, of course.
Great video...I thought b was the real amp. It had a hair filler thick sound. The Kemper had a bit more bite. Which Kemper was this the 600w or no?
It’s the standard non-powered version! Recorded direct into my Apollo Twin.
I thought B was the real amp, but I preferred the sound of A at the same time
I preferred A some as well!
I could tell the difference because you compared them side by side. In a mix it would be almost impossible. How accurate is the kemper in capturing amp character is simply amazing. I played with many high end amp emulations and most of them have a hard time emulating a fender sparkle. Is this a kemper conspiracy?? 😂😂
Man, the Kemper is really great! The Quad Cortex by Neural DSP does a good job too.
I agree about presence in a mix, but that also depends on your workflow. If you are running through a ton of plugins in a DAW, then it will make no difference because you are essentially doing what the Kemper does. If you ran an analogue signal chain, you would hear a difference.
The creative difference in music production nowadays comes down to more or less pickles on our processed meat/soylent green burger.
"Sounds just like a JCM800" Yeah, really? Like the Kemper can recreate the experience of what it's like to stand in front of a JCM800 stack with a guitar in your hands? I don't think so.
How will you monitor yourself at a gig with a Kemper? I'm still searching for the best solution
Well, I only really gig the Kemper if I’m using in-ears. If it’s a bar, the Kemper cabinet is a great option, but I don’t own one because I usually take amps for those gigs.
I use the Kemper Head with a Ritter Camplifier SHP and a Kemper Kone in a selfmade Cabinet.
@@andreasbarthel6409 I’ve heard good things about the Kone! I’ve thought about trying one myself.
If you played one or owned one, you would know. I’ve watched two of your comparison videos now and got the real amp right away.
If you can’t hear it, you obviously haven’t spent enough time with it yet. I look forward to someone who can actually appreciate that amp to get it in their possession. Not saying you don’t appreciate it but you’re not ready for the real thing yet. You’re from a different generation, I get it. Kemper, axe fx, helix.. been there. Pretty cool tools for recording if you don’t have the means to record the amps well.
As the great Tom Bukovac says, “Big Tone is heavy and Hard to Carry”. In a live situation the kemper is lifeless and not very inspiring to say the least. I’ll stick to my tube amps for now.
Believe me, in time you’ll learn to appreciate what you really have there. Excuse me if I sound harsh but I really don’t back down when it comes to my stance on modelling amps, profiling etc. They are what they are. If you want to get inspired by the guitar/amp relationship… play the real thing.
Millennials listen up lol. ✌️
P.S yes it’s worth it to keep this deluxe around.
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I hear you, and I can hear the difference, but that doesn’t mean modelers are “bad”. I can get good results with either, but of course I’d rather have the amp right behind me at preferred volume.
I get the “millennial” comment because thats the easy dig, but I’ve been lucky enough to always live close to shops with killer amps and be friends with some pretty cool people. I’ve got a lot of experience with a wide variety of amps, new and vintage. Conversely, I’ve never NOT owned an amp. Modeling wasn’t what it is now when I started playing.
It makes sense for me to keep the deluxe around, but for someone who doesn’t want to spend $4-$5k on a vintage amp of this caliber, then a modeler or cheaper amp can get them close. The Kemper is great, as is the Dream 65, but they are different. Most guys on the road aren’t in an ideal world where they can bring whatever they want anymore.
@@RiggsTaylor For sure, ✌️
They are close but not convincingly close… I’ve owned a kemper, it was pretty impressive for recording purposes but I always preferred an amp behind me. Much better playing experience unless everyone has to wear IEM’s. I never have nor will I ever have to play those gigs. Again, sorry if I came off sounding harsh. Like most guitarists, it just something I feel strongly towards. If I’m at home, I have no objection to using something like a kemper but it brings me no satisfaction to be honest. Buried in a mix, yeah, for some it’s okay. The most my conscious will allow these days is speaker emulation lol. I enjoyed the meeting and talk you did with Zac Childs.
Yeah, If I’m not using in ears then I’ll only take an amp haha. And thanks man! Glad you enjoyed it- that was a fun day.
@@RiggsTaylor 👌
A sounded a lot better. Very noticeable differences on JBL LSR305 speakers. I'm impressed.
Thanks! I have different preferences depending on what I’m going for, but it’s all totally useable in a live or recording situation.
Did you “optimize” your profiles after the initial capture?
For this comparison, I left them exactly how the Kemper profiled it! I did a video a couple weeks ago where I tweaked the profiles before comparing the two, using a different amp.
@@RiggsTaylor I’m not talking “tweaking” the profile…I meant “refining” it when you captured it. Used the wrong term I think.
@@tomulator Ah! Yes, I do refine them. Sometimes I’ll even use a couple different guitars/pickup combinations to refine. That’s just me- may sound the same as not, but I think it helps 🤷🏻♂️
The amp definitely had that delicious low end saturation from dem tubes, that was the only thing I could tell a difference in
Mild differences in low end character- definitely requires headphones/good speakers to tell. But FOH/engineer will probably cut below 150hz anyways 😢
Give Chunkamuffin a kiss from GranMer!💗
I preferred Kemper on single coil edge of breakup tones by a lot, it seems like it's biased hotter and sags a bit more but I'm into that tone for single coils. For humbuckers both tones were very usable. All in all both sound good and in a mix would be hard to tell apart but the part you cant capture in a video is feel because for a player that is as important as sound and I've heard kemper comes close enough.
P.S that poor doggy... Imagine the room being so loud you need hearing protection and bringing in a creature with far more sensitive hearing... Be more attentive next time :)
Yeah, the feel factor is very important. I think the Kemper is the best, or at least as good as any modeler in the feel department, but it’s still different than a real amp. The dog didn’t stay in there for long- don’t worry 😉
@@RiggsTaylor have you tried TH-U rig player? It's supposed to be vst kemper, would be interesting to hear your thoughts
@@ilmisxx2 I haven’t! I’ll have to look into that.
I definitely thought A sounded better. I was shocked. Kemper sounded at least as good to my old ears.
You aren’t the only one! Both sound good to me as well, which is why I use both regularly 👌🏻
wow my guess was that A was the real amp because it sounded better but it was the Kemper!
Thanks so much! It’s so good!
I found a sounding a little better. But it’s hard to be sure…
Agreed- I don't think there is a bad sound in the bunch!
How do you profile an amp?
I made a video about it on my channel! It’s as simple or complicated as you make it. I typically use a couple mics and blend the signals.
They were easy to tell apart. The Fender has a fat glow around each note, because it's a valve amp driving a real speaker. There is currently no way to emulate or profile everything that an analogue amp does. But, whether that matters or not is another question. Why not create something different? That's the capability of this technology.
Yeah, modelers are a tool for a job, but I’m much more inspired when I have a loud amp close by! Granted, the audience may not can tell a difference, and that’s who is buying the tickets 🤷🏻♂️
@@RiggsTaylor Maybe the audience can tell mate. They can tell you've got a connection to your amp, and, the amp just sounds better.
@@andygrove285 I agree. I think that’s the factor people leave out. I play pretty differently with an amp behind me, and I’ve spent hundreds of hours using modelers live too. Even then, still prefer an amp.
I got it right, kemper is great but not perfect... 🙂
Keep in mind, I hadn’t even tweaked these profiles in the video. I actually made another one with a different amp, and I think those are even closer!
Celan B / Ovedrive A :D
Agreed. That Deluxe Reverb clean is legendary for a reason!
I’m guessing B is real. At least I like it better. Hope I’m wrong. #kemper4lyfe
My lips are sealed 🤐
I liked A better!!
I think what I’m noticing (from people I know) is producers/engineers prefer A because that’s the sound they’ll EQ it closer to in a mix. Everyone else has been all over the place.
I heard amp A and immediately thought… that sounds pretty harsh and muddy… I guess it’s just the guitar/player? Then B came around and made a HUGE difference in clarity, definition, mistake forgiveness, roundness/fullness in tone, etc. Guess I’ll be sticking with my tubes.
Interesting! Kemper definitely has more top end and a different midrange character, but keep in mind this was the profile raw with no tweaks. Might do a follow up video tweaking the Kemper to make it a bit more difficult to tell the difference 😉
@@RiggsTaylor that would be cool! I REALLY wanted amp B to be the Kemper because I was just given one today to use indefinitely. I think it’s a cool tool in its own right, but no contest to the real thing.
@@JedBayes I think recorded next to a high-end amp, without any context in a mix, is the most obvious tell. I use both live, and sometimes I’m happier with a Kemper using in-ears and being able to tweak more. But on records, I use amps most of the time 🤷🏻♂️
@@JedBayes I was thinking the same thing.... Funny enough, at the end of the demos I was hoping that Amp B was not the Kemper for to my ears Amp B was superior, sounding more like a tube amp, which it is 😀.. . If I was wrong either, my headphones needed replacing, my ears needed tuning or the modeled amp (taking its sonic cues from the amp it is competing against) somehow sounded noticably better. The best I would think possible (or maybe not) is a match maybe with a little enhancement due to the Kemper's flexibility..... I would be curious to hear the comparison again with the Kemper dialed in.
kemper sounds like a digital recording of an amp. Today, in the world of digital PA systems, you can't really hear the tube amp as the digital mix converts it in digital sound so this is where KEMPER comes relevant. In your bedroom, a tube amp sand way better
Agreed. Once you throw a mic in front of it, and are using it live, it’s a toss up for me.
A-amp B-kemper
I like A amp))))🤷🏻
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if its loud and you plug ear plugins in why dont you take the dog out??? if you dont know dogs hear million times better than humans
My wife brought him in towards the end- I typically keep the door shut and rarely record this loud.
Blatantly unfair comparison. You clearly have different gain settings between the 2 amps. If you were playing the Deluxe at the volume at which it was profiled, they might sound the same or even the Deluxe might be better. But you profiled loud but are playing the Deluxe much quieter. Not EVEN the same 5he same and an unfair comparison.
Plus it's easy to see AMP A is the Kemper. We can see the input light flashing with signal.
You will have to try better if you want it to sound the same.
I think you missed the part where I said I captured/recorded with the exact same amp settings - the mics never even moved, much less the knobs.
The point of the comparison was to get ALL of the subtle difference between an unaltered profile and the original amp. I could’ve tweaked to make them closer, but that wasn’t the point.
Sharp eye on the blinking input light though!