Full Race Highlights | ADAC TOTAL 24h-Race Nürburgring 2021

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  • Опубліковано 5 чер 2021
  • Enjoy the highlights from the 24 hour race 2021 at the Nürburgring. Watch the best moments from the Nordschleife as the race cars fight for each and every inch. The Porsche Manthey #911 takes home the trophy! Congratulations to Matteo Cairoli, Michael Christensen, Kevin Estre and Lars Kern!
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  • @TheHeavyshooter
    @TheHeavyshooter 3 роки тому +321

    Thank you for putting 2000's porn music over the sound of V10s, V8s, flat sixes etc. We all know motorsport fans hate engine noise

    • @Kitsune_no_baka
      @Kitsune_no_baka 3 роки тому +13

      Yes, the music ist awful and the sound of the cars is this what the fans would like to hear! ...

    • @MV-yp8il
      @MV-yp8il 3 роки тому +3

      Hahahaha 🤣🤣

    • @wesmak9
      @wesmak9 3 роки тому +3

      Well said mate, well said!

    • @krisreid2815
      @krisreid2815 3 роки тому +1

      Is that why I got a chub? Lol. I thought it was the engine noise I could hear 🤣

    • @MrZerohour1967
      @MrZerohour1967 3 роки тому +1

      Clearly edited by someone who has no understanding of motorsport.

  • @SEGY
    @SEGY 3 роки тому +495

    Could've really done without the same music looping over and over. Even just engine noise or maybe some commentary would've been fine

    • @kcsnow9447
      @kcsnow9447 3 роки тому +4

      Mute and then loop your own tracks using "my music." I'm watching it over The Don Gorda Project's "Dedicado," but you can choose your own poison (try mine first though. ;D Or if you want something faster, "Afreen.")

    • @1989eol
      @1989eol 3 роки тому +10

      True. This was a pain even during live coverage. Just skip the music. Engine noise would actually be great. Something about motor sports anyway. :P

    • @mrchicken15
      @mrchicken15 3 роки тому

      Yea i just want the commentary

    • @juicycro
      @juicycro 3 роки тому +6

      I actually quite like it

    • @MrZerohour1967
      @MrZerohour1967 3 роки тому +5

      100% agree dude... who the f wants music over engine revs.

  • @sheriffgnadenlos347
    @sheriffgnadenlos347 3 роки тому +383

    Kevin Estre ist einfach ne Maschine mit dem Porsche

    • @tu21an
      @tu21an 3 роки тому +9

      Absolutely a master

    • @pyr084
      @pyr084 3 роки тому +4

      und der Porsche ist einfach n Mann mit dem Estre.

    • @Superstocker669
      @Superstocker669 3 роки тому +2

      Schon ne krasse Kombi!

  • @billbreze795
    @billbreze795 3 роки тому +303

    Everyone just hope for a full race next year.

    • @austriangroyper9308
      @austriangroyper9308 3 роки тому +15

      And with fans back at the ring

    • @big203jay
      @big203jay 3 роки тому +3

      Hasn't been a full race in a few years now haha

    • @1989eol
      @1989eol 3 роки тому +3

      The weather is changing. Due to the climate changing the seasons are pushed one or even two months back. I mean, we had snow in May in the middle of Germany, not even high up. Unthinkable 20 Years back.
      I think especially the N24 suffers from it, as it has a chance of terrible weather anyway. I'd say late July or even August would be the right time.

    • @matiasrower3748
      @matiasrower3748 2 роки тому +1

      If you would know...

    • @matiasrower3748
      @matiasrower3748 2 місяці тому +2

      Hey! I found an old comment!
      Well, 2022 and 2023 were green for 24H straight but right now I'm waiting for the 2024 edition to go back to green. We've had a red flag for about 11,5H now!

  • @alexhong8204
    @alexhong8204 3 роки тому +92

    Thank you to all the marshalls, race organizers, drivers for making this a memorable event. Greetings from Singapore/Malaysia.

  • @Simulation_Channel
    @Simulation_Channel 3 роки тому +154

    War sehr cool, Danke an alle Mitwirkenden Moderatoren, Kamera Operatoren, Fahrzeug teams, Boxenteams, Rennfahrer und Sonstige. War ein wirklich sehr sehr schönes Rennen, auch mit Unterbrechungen. Sicherheit geht eben vor. Bis nächstes Jahr.

  • @Teddini
    @Teddini 3 роки тому +128

    Estre is such a beast.
    I'm sorry for Stolz and Eng, both did well but their teams got so unlucky.. And tbh the highlights are not full highlights if you don't show the Dacia!!

  • @Predalien3001
    @Predalien3001 3 роки тому +158

    Not even a second dedicated to the Dacia, the REAL star of the show here

    • @nissansilviakouki
      @nissansilviakouki 3 роки тому +5

      The real star always have been the manta, Dacia just got popular this year

    • @kallo182
      @kallo182 3 роки тому +3

      A Star?
      WTF?!
      Why, because it was the slowest Car in the Grid.
      I think the Car holds the Record for the slowest 24h Laptime.
      A few Years ago even the 115HP Astra and Golf made it under 12 minutes.

    • @nextlaunch1
      @nextlaunch1 3 роки тому +4

      @@kallo182 I don’t think you get what they mean

    • @kallo182
      @kallo182 3 роки тому

      @@nextlaunch1 Yes, you are right. I dont get it.
      I understand the Manta is Kult, or the old 3er BMWs.
      But this Car?
      No. Dont get it.

  • @kbt_panther4911
    @kbt_panther4911 3 роки тому +453

    Mal wieder trotz unterbrechung ein geniales rennen. (Der Olli ist ein bischen leise) ;)

    • @depot1899
      @depot1899 3 роки тому +13

      Ich finde Olli Martini (?!!) wohltuend leise! Den Schreihals Eddi Mielke habe ich abgeschaltet!
      Ein qualitativ hochwertiger und informativer Kommentar braucht kein hysterisches Gebrülle!

    • @yannikharing4088
      @yannikharing4088 3 роки тому +23

      @@depot1899 lost

    • @hausgeisttsiegsuah6666
      @hausgeisttsiegsuah6666 3 роки тому +11

      Hab erst beim 2ten mal schauen gemerkt das da jemand redet vor lauter Musik XD

    • @reBlink
      @reBlink 3 роки тому +1

      @@depot1899 called emotions

    • @fluxx2875
      @fluxx2875 3 роки тому +1

      Eigentlich sollte man ihn glaube garnicht hören 😉

  • @Mike1997nfs
    @Mike1997nfs 3 роки тому +49

    Re-upload with the music tuned down please. I would like to hear the commentary

    • @seancase1106
      @seancase1106 3 роки тому +2

      Can u understand German?

    • @1878reddevil
      @1878reddevil 3 роки тому +2

      Ditto!

    • @nezziaktm9922
      @nezziaktm9922 3 роки тому +1

      The commentary is germans, as the English Stream didnt commented highlights

    • @1878reddevil
      @1878reddevil 3 роки тому +9

      @@seancase1106
      There was a stream with English commentary too.
      But, even with German commentary would be much better and you can hear the original race sounds - not this awful music.

  • @juanalcala
    @juanalcala 3 роки тому +230

    I wonder how long the highlights would be if the full 24 hours was raced

    • @DanielDavidp1
      @DanielDavidp1 3 роки тому +9

      About an Hour or So I think

    • @thefighter137
      @thefighter137 3 роки тому +10

      The 2018 and 2019 XXL highlights lasted around 50 minutes

    • @biergartner4947
      @biergartner4947 3 роки тому +2

      24 hours, at least! 😂

    • @alieffauzanrizky7202
      @alieffauzanrizky7202 3 роки тому +1

      The usual highlights were 50 minutes and it feels like watching a movie

    • @leehrvyoswld
      @leehrvyoswld 3 роки тому

      Usually an hour!

  • @ibo25294
    @ibo25294 3 роки тому +75

    Musik ist viel zu laut. Motorsound > Musik (lieber gar keine Musik)
    Ich war vor Ort und es war atemberaubend!

    • @1q2w3e4r5t6zism
      @1q2w3e4r5t6zism 3 роки тому +1

      Ich auch! Zumindest den ganzen Samstag! Einfach top!

  • @franzrauschenbach3412
    @franzrauschenbach3412 3 роки тому +31

    Too bad the music is playing all the time. We wanna hear engines and stuff!

    • @honeyfun24
      @honeyfun24 3 роки тому +2

      i can't find the title of the song

  • @oliverroberts1076
    @oliverroberts1076 3 роки тому +39

    Kevin Estre is one of the best drivers alive.

    • @kcsnow9447
      @kcsnow9447 3 роки тому +1

      Except for me, of course. And you. :D

    • @oliverroberts1076
      @oliverroberts1076 3 роки тому +1

      @@kcsnow9447 That goes without saying, mate...

  • @anonymous..-
    @anonymous..- 3 роки тому +55

    How about a version with car noises instead of hold music ?

    • @markholroyde9412
      @markholroyde9412 3 роки тому +3

      You can hope, all the snowflakes get scared when you can hear the engine LOL...music is for casuals, real petrolheads want none of it.

    • @marvinlinnarz5856
      @marvinlinnarz5856 3 роки тому

      @@markholroyde9412 Is that just me or have the cars somehow become quieter and quieter in recent years?

  • @ptilrem
    @ptilrem 3 роки тому +66

    Let's hope for a full race next year, and more Dacias.

    • @marvinlinnarz5856
      @marvinlinnarz5856 3 роки тому +3

      @@fredriksvard2603 Yes, let's take the uniqueness of the race away. These less serious teams have always been what defines the 24h race. Of course, the GT3s bring more excitement. However, diversity has always made the Nürburgring 24h race.

    • @Superstocker669
      @Superstocker669 3 роки тому +1

      2 chicanes on the track. One on the GP circuit, one rolling are enough. 👍😂

    • @1989eol
      @1989eol 3 роки тому +1

      Too much hate from "true fans" for that. ;)

  • @alex33415
    @alex33415 3 роки тому +11

    16:51 minuten nur Musik!🤦‍♂️Bitte ohne Musik noch einmal Hochladen!

  • @camrsr5463
    @camrsr5463 3 роки тому +27

    Way to go Grello!
    Kevin and Michael finally got one!

  • @sergiomater8344
    @sergiomater8344 3 роки тому +11

    Sad to not see night racing these year. But what a race, incredible performance by Kevin Estre, congratulations to Manthey! All these guys are true racers, racing in one of the toughest races in the world, what a legends!

  • @5pd5tr
    @5pd5tr 3 роки тому +33

    Only showed the Manta when it crashed, shame.
    No Logan at all, SHAME.

  • @Safabox
    @Safabox 3 роки тому +8

    For me, Kevin Estre was the Man of the Race. Amazing performance!

  • @LoopingLuie
    @LoopingLuie 3 роки тому +18

    Manthey deserves the victory after having bad luck in the end of the race 2019 and not being able to start last year because of the quarantine.

  • @MrkOile
    @MrkOile 3 роки тому +3

    Habe meine liebe zum Motorsport wieder entdeckt. Von Anfang bis ende mitgefiebert. Freu mich auf nächstes Jahr.

  • @vixenlover2369
    @vixenlover2369 3 роки тому +129

    Entertaining race. Hope for no delays next year.

    • @skg2k64
      @skg2k64 3 роки тому +7

      Hopefully next year there will be warm dry conditions so they can go max pace

    • @jacobevenson8702
      @jacobevenson8702 3 роки тому

      @@skg2k64 If you want "max pace" you wouldn't want it to be warm, you'd want it as cold as possible.

  • @michaelmich3477
    @michaelmich3477 3 роки тому +2

    Manthey 💛💚💛💚💛💚

  • @TDH-FENRIS
    @TDH-FENRIS 3 роки тому +11

    16:21 best scene of this race

  • @weekendrider2009
    @weekendrider2009 3 роки тому +5

    マンタイレーシングチーム、優勝おめでとうございます。そして、このレースに関わった全ての方達 お疲れ様でした。 毎年、喜び 悲しみ 希望などの沢山の感情を感じられる素晴らしいレースを有難うございます。遠い日本から、全てのチームを応援しています!また来年

  • @patrickst2577
    @patrickst2577 3 роки тому +25

    Ohne Musik wäre das Video ein Knaller :-)

    • @yoke27
      @yoke27 3 роки тому +1

      Is that German for the music sucked?

    • @sramboLP
      @sramboLP 3 роки тому

      @@yoke27 Yes, kinda. "without music the video would have been better"

  • @9T9seconds
    @9T9seconds 3 роки тому +7

    Kevin Estre! Amazing!

  • @cormac1837
    @cormac1837 3 роки тому +8

    was a great race despite everything. Thanks ADAC

  • @andrewchesler2029
    @andrewchesler2029 3 роки тому +1

    Battle for rank #3 was great ! Thank you guys and all the best !

  • @arnd9081
    @arnd9081 3 роки тому +6

    Bin ich der Einzige der nur blöde Musik hört aber keinen Kommentar und keinen Motorsound? Was soll das??

  • @bwoah525
    @bwoah525 3 роки тому +9

    Why is there talking in the background? either make the video with music playing or with the commentary, not both, very annoying

    • @seancase1106
      @seancase1106 3 роки тому

      Chill

    • @nezziaktm9922
      @nezziaktm9922 3 роки тому

      Its the german commentary of the Highlights after the race, turned down and music up so you dont hear him and they can write "English Highlights" on, so that they dont have to produce a Additional Highlight Video with English commentary. Seems like they were bit lazy

  • @heretinaitiheretinaiti1672
    @heretinaitiheretinaiti1672 3 роки тому

    Magnifico resumen de la carrera. Muchas gracia. Saludos

  • @rudi1668
    @rudi1668 3 роки тому

    Tolles Rennen und ihr seid ein tolles Team👍

  • @jay-zen9327
    @jay-zen9327 3 роки тому +1

    Es war zu schön, freue mich dabei zu sein nächstes Jahr, und zwar Live! :D

  • @DrAcula-my9ub
    @DrAcula-my9ub 3 роки тому +3

    Estre ist einfach ein Wahnsinns Fahrer ! Einfach verdient!

  • @Yakovlev_Norris
    @Yakovlev_Norris 3 роки тому +13

    Really unfortunate to have the shortest N24 in history, but absolutely the right decision to not race when the medical helicopter couldn't fly

    • @kcsnow9447
      @kcsnow9447 3 роки тому

      Yeah, I get that, even though it had not occurred to me at first. At first I was whiner. But saner heads prevailed. I can only tip my hat to better minds than mine.

  • @987TravelSingapore
    @987TravelSingapore 3 роки тому

    This Car Race are so Amazing Best to watch it LIVE.

  • @LLl-yv2jg
    @LLl-yv2jg 3 роки тому

    Das war ein super tolles Rennen und spannend

  • @socoffingsource9081
    @socoffingsource9081 3 роки тому +3

    That last pit stop my manthey was honestly incredible

  • @louismm7238
    @louismm7238 3 роки тому +1

    Vermisse den Stream jetzt schon

  • @gec-o2167
    @gec-o2167 3 роки тому +1

    GREAT RACE!

  • @helljumper6192
    @helljumper6192 3 роки тому

    War ein super Rennen. Ich freue mich schon auf nächstes Jahr mit hoffentlich besserem Wetter.

  • @wesmak9
    @wesmak9 3 роки тому +3

    I can't wait to watch the complete race!

    • @wich1
      @wich1 3 роки тому +2

      I hope it will actually be available, everything was there on Sunday afternoon/evening, but now everything’s gone!

  • @Boingftw
    @Boingftw 3 роки тому +29

    10:12 😭

    • @Tortuguita117
      @Tortuguita117 3 роки тому

      f

    • @edo8533
      @edo8533 3 роки тому +1

      Feelsbadman he was constantly top 3 the whole race

  • @ronnycastro4679
    @ronnycastro4679 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks a lot ADAC TOTAL 24h-Rennen Nürburgring for the streaming. I will be far away of my home😭 for two years and cannot watch nur 24h☹️. I will miss my home a lot and I will miss seeing the 24 hours nur. See you in two years and God bless to all.☺️🙏💪

  • @gaiming_ghost6184
    @gaiming_ghost6184 3 роки тому +7

    Wir sehen uns nextes jahr wieder ✌

  • @thiago314v_
    @thiago314v_ 3 роки тому

    Great Race!!!

  • @shykick
    @shykick 3 роки тому +7

    0:44 He did it again this year!! See that?? …. And people say Porsche is slower in straight-line!! LOL

  • @marionetamtz
    @marionetamtz 3 роки тому +1

    What a shame that there was no night racing, but it looks like the race was a true challenge for the pilots.

  • @tak2malay24
    @tak2malay24 2 роки тому +1

    I loved surreal music.. fantastic and in tune with race summary. Music is in loop as music ends, feels race is over, but then another crew and race will continue for 24 hrs. Those who want to just hear engines rev, there several other channels

  • @WUTPanserbjorn
    @WUTPanserbjorn 3 роки тому +23

    A shame about the fog, but the racing was intense after the restart: It looked more like Nascar than endurance racing at times!

  • @nikolasnolde
    @nikolasnolde 3 роки тому +26

    Super geiles Rennen gewesen!!!
    Nur dem Typ an der Kamera Regie würde ich mal gern was erzählen!
    Wer will in der letzten Runde vom Bergwerk bis zum Ziel Kevin Estre sehen, wenn es nen 4 Kampf um Platz 3 gibt???😂
    (Bei der Ziel Einfahrt kann man ihn ja gerne zeigen)

    • @nezziaktm9922
      @nezziaktm9922 3 роки тому

      Das war echt nicht geil. Da ging es so ab

  • @absurdsukageming9525
    @absurdsukageming9525 3 роки тому +17

    Once a year event but unfortunately delayed almost for entire race, hope for better condition next year !!

  • @astrolamb
    @astrolamb 3 роки тому +7

    Gibt es auch eine Version ohne Musik? Ist zwar schön anzuhören, aber ich würd lieber Motoren + Kommentar hören

  • @SmallKittyPaw
    @SmallKittyPaw 3 роки тому +4

    Wet start was very exciting, full of action. Just what we like and why we love that track. In one part you are hydroplaning, while other part of track is almost dry. 3h Sprint for finish was no less exciting. Incidents and car failures really shake up lineout. To the last 20 minutes you didn't know which team gonna win.
    Race will be remembered as shortest so far but for me, one of most exciting and will stay in my memory for long time.
    Ps. So happy that Porsche grabbed the win!

  • @fp5940
    @fp5940 Рік тому

    Kevin got game he knows the track and what to do with that Porsche. Wunderkind.

  • @JoeMamma-yc8lh
    @JoeMamma-yc8lh 3 роки тому +3

    Well I was enjoying my Sunday until I listened to 13 mins of that music -_-

  • @toots666
    @toots666 3 роки тому +1

    Schönes Rennen. Wenigstens Platz 4 für einen der Falken Porsche. 🥳

  • @tubelitrax
    @tubelitrax 3 роки тому +1

    Wohlverdienter Sieg. Eigentlich Audi Fan. Aber Team Manthey hat schon immer eine solide Leistung gebracht.

    • @starkillerf1588
      @starkillerf1588 3 роки тому +1

      Same das Battle Land Manthey wäre noch ein sehr spannendes geworden

  • @brandonmrich
    @brandonmrich 3 роки тому +3

    Oof 17 minutes of that music on repeat was brutal. Great race though!

  • @pavithraherath1382
    @pavithraherath1382 3 роки тому

    Nice work

  • @djoni5015
    @djoni5015 3 роки тому +1

    what a race! See you all next year!

  • @DAI.H4RD
    @DAI.H4RD 3 роки тому +1

    The music is soooo good!

  • @austinshackles549
    @austinshackles549 3 роки тому

    Those were some insane conditions for racing. Mad props to anyone who survived, never mind winning!

  • @agentschnitzel408
    @agentschnitzel408 3 роки тому

    Es war einfach ein Mega geiles rennen

  • @tu21an
    @tu21an 3 роки тому

    nice recap!

  • @nofi5796
    @nofi5796 3 роки тому

    Magistrale Kévin Estre 1er nürburgring que je regarde, jsuis tombé dessus par hasard j'ai trop kiffé tu as été monstrueux aucune erreur, bravo monsieur tu me fais rêver j'adorerais faire 1 tour de ce circuit 1 jour, et quand je vois ta performance... ça a l'air tellement facile

  • @Alexander.Z13
    @Alexander.Z13 3 роки тому +5

    why the music?

  • @shkim4076
    @shkim4076 3 роки тому

    Kevin and Michael and Manthey trio... absolute goat..

  • @MV-yp8il
    @MV-yp8il 3 роки тому

    Nice race 💪

  • @ollieminecraft
    @ollieminecraft 2 роки тому +1

    I hope that there is a longer race next year.

  • @verskillt
    @verskillt 3 роки тому +3

    Absolut geiles Rennen, mega spannende kämpfe und krasse szenen. Natürlich schade mit dem eifel wetter

  • @ratzepimmel96
    @ratzepimmel96 3 роки тому +4

    bitte nochmal neu aussteuern. der kommentar wird von der musik völlig übertönt.

  • @Kr4zy
    @Kr4zy 3 роки тому

    Not a single shot of one of the highlights this year.. being able to watch this live from the grandstands!

  • @paarthmarwah1999
    @paarthmarwah1999 3 роки тому +2

    Estre was impeccable today.

  • @LM-nh5of
    @LM-nh5of 3 роки тому

    the best race...fun to see that sometimes is almost like an ice skating show

  • @fern6114
    @fern6114 3 роки тому +1

    Top event hoffe das kommt wieder live auf UA-cam

  • @lenovophab640
    @lenovophab640 2 роки тому

    sooooo 2022 will ich wieder ein richtiges Higlightvideo wie in 2019. Corona is ümm Jungs ^^

  • @mondnuckl
    @mondnuckl 3 роки тому

    Great video. Great race. Thanks to everyone. Did I miss something or is the insane reaction from Frijns not in the video, though? That was definitely a highlight. As a viewer at home I nearly pooped myself suddenly seeing that car on the right pop up.

  • @brayspilner1321
    @brayspilner1321 3 роки тому

    2021 best 24h so farr..

  • @SLITHERMAN54
    @SLITHERMAN54 3 роки тому

    Amazing race nurburgring always brings entertainment

  • @wich1
    @wich1 3 роки тому +2

    Where are all the stream replays of the full race, the pitlane and the onboards? I was looking forward to watching some of those!

  • @dco29
    @dco29 3 роки тому +9

    11:47 Sehr gute Szene

    • @autsigurd4322
      @autsigurd4322 3 роки тому

      Aus der Kameraperspektive hätt ich mir mehr Bilder gewünscht, finde den Blickwinkel sehr gut.

  • @federicovazquez7641
    @federicovazquez7641 3 роки тому +2

    it would be nice to turn down the music and turn up the ambient sound 👌

  • @dierkkleinwort6597
    @dierkkleinwort6597 3 роки тому +4

    Motorsport Herz, was willste mehr. Einfach genial

  • @mariapires7170
    @mariapires7170 3 роки тому +1

    Mr Estre, actually, one of the strongest Porsche drivers of the World! Period! Ansious for Le Mans in the GTE Pro class with the magnificient RSR 2021!

  • @mariomionskowski6223
    @mariomionskowski6223 3 роки тому

    Ich habe durchgehalten, da es ja auch eine befohlene Bettruhe gab, aber ganz im ernst super geniales Rennen, Glückwunsch an Team Manthey und Kevin Estre.

  • @Daness74
    @Daness74 3 роки тому +2

    Musik zu laut,versteh kaum was v Moderator - falls es noch niemand erwähnt hat..

  • @AlexanderOrion
    @AlexanderOrion 3 роки тому +1

    10Hr Nebelring Race, loved it anyways

  • @cowboybebop6614
    @cowboybebop6614 3 роки тому

    Amazing race. Watched it over the Azerbaijan GP

  • @dair919
    @dair919 3 роки тому +4

    I love this sound track!

  • @gazman111r
    @gazman111r 3 роки тому

    Will we see the race streamed/recorded in 4K in future? I’d love to see all the colours popping in those stunning race liveries.

  • @pdalia
    @pdalia 3 роки тому +2

    16:16 “I love you Porsche!”

  • @mtgplayer1239
    @mtgplayer1239 3 роки тому

    KEVIN ESTRE you crazy dog! awesome!

  • @Tom-bh2lb
    @Tom-bh2lb 3 роки тому

    Auch wenn es keine 24h waren, war es dennoch ein geiles Rennen.

  • @simracingaddict9687
    @simracingaddict9687 3 роки тому +3

    Will we get the full race?

  • @Christian-ws6wc
    @Christian-ws6wc 3 роки тому

    Ein ReLive vom ganzen Rennen wäre nice.

  • @diogosilva27
    @diogosilva27 3 роки тому +2

    Good highlights but instead of this repetitive music it would be nice to have some commentary