Agree I have watched a fair few idleon channels and this is the only one I have commented on or has actually impacted the way I play so thank you. I was already using aura over poison at this point but had not thought to switch from wand to spear. I lose a multi kill tier which sucks a bit, but probably is compensated for with the extra aura spread. I also had not considered the difference between raise dead and aura first. Crystallin stamp lvl also makes a difference, as if sufficiently high it seems bubo doesn't move much even with the spear as there are so many xtals!
Love your content, subbed. I think content is amazing so I can add only 1 thing for your future vids. Maybe a bit less jittering and stuttering if you can avoid it. but o/w amazing super informative. thanks a bunch
Congrata on 1k and thank you so much for all the informativ Content. This Video is very endgame oriented but i think many people are at the lower end of Power and have questions about that. Like when should i start bubo farming? When my Talents are atleast lvl 120? 155? I cant use Aura reliably yet so should i use poison instead? And If i use poison should i only Farm on Maps where it 1 ticks the enemys HP? I think These are questions Most people are wondering
Ah Yes I should have covered this more but the best part about aura is its dmg modifier is so much higher than poison that you can actually farm at much much lower dmg needed than with poison, as far as when you can you do really want lvl 200+ talents but that is more endgame focused as you said. Realistically you can use lower talent levels and depending on the map you really wont miss out on much efficiency. for a lot of w5 maps I would just prioritize aura over poison for lower dmg accounts.
Congrats again on 1k man !!! I'm wondering, any reason to not put cranium on 1st slot just to make sure it procs right when its available? Sometimes the cooldown is done and doesnt proc for a couple minutes while on last slot because of how crazy the other 3 are popping off 😂 Cheers !!
Cold honest truth is I'm not sure if it delays casting being in slot one even if down and this build fills liquid so fast that losing a few minutes of cranium is whatever lol I was tempted to remove it from the bar entirely since I need to dump like every hour lmao
@@13jrohrer Haha I'll test money/hr with cranium on slot 1 or 4 to see if it makes any difference when I get the chance to do so. Youre right it fills up so quick that Im just having big FOMO of "yeah but what if it doesnt proc for 3 hours !!" 😂😂
I've been toying around with 5th slot teleport as a sort of catch up mechanic that only kicks in when something weird happens with the spawns/timing. I'll try your order and drop teleport (keeping CC on 1 for the GT gains lol). Current best is 226k seconds with 201MS and teleport, raise dead first. I think you're absolutely right with the movespeed though, I removed the starsign and put in more green pots. Thoughts on fist to drop 10 more range or no weapon? Great video as always, grats on the 1k subs.
Wait I'm dumb and was reading it wrong, uh I think it's worse as sometimes the cleave helps and 10 range is hardly nothing. Regular fist definitely not as it has low attack speed (I think it's like 3 or 4 can't quite remember)
Does the bubonic have to be assigned to the liquid to get more when using cranium cooking or can it be put in the other coldrens and still get the liquids
Im starting w5 right now, my beast master is my most leveled character, its 350, everything else is 150, my alch bubbles are really low leveled for w5 standards and my BM dmg is about 87m, so its very very low for w5 standards too, what do you think i can do to get everything better lined up? if u dont mind i can share my idleon efficiency with you, maybe that can help with some steps haha
FYI I don't know if it's a bug or intentional, but the colldier bubble upgrade for atoms currently seems broken in a useful way. When you upgrade the collider, it resets the bubble upgrades, you can do 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 etc all in 1 day. Just use them, upgrade the collider atom and repeat
I should probably join discord, and abuse this as much as possible before it's fixed. I just have every player with the largest possible sample in lab and linked to harriep right now
Build wise? I'd go raise dead, aura, ghost, chemical warfare, cranium. That map is large enough and enough platforms that you can't properly aura it so best to just get as many raise deads as possible
Curious how you would run on Biggole Moles - 220 aura 220 tent / 900M damage with staff 700M damage with spear / 150% crit (I was using spear because damage still didn't really seem to be a factor and, assuming aura spread better on this map. although staff he stays middle of map more and possibly kills more an hour ignoring top right platform? raise dead>aura>ghost>CC , because well idk why)
Hmm sounds good to me, that map is kinda spread pretty far. Aura probably gets better results but would need to test. If you aren't resetting too quickly I'd say cannisters might not be bad
Can you explain how you have so much Bars expecially Starfire? I really struggle to get some i thing id need around 450.000 Bars to make armour and weapons for all of my Characters, and i have a lot of ores, But the smithing takes incredibly long. Do you shorten it up just with your archers on green Mushrooms with the talent or are there other tricks im missing? I only manage around 400.000 kills per hour and that seems like its not enough to make like a LOT of Bars. Any tips?
Using 1hr candies or otherwise small afk claims of 5-10 min is enough to smelt a furnace worth of bars in conjunction with the archers smelting every day talent, If you have low kills per hour you can use frogs as well but honestly I recommend just using lab+ 2x god to pump kills higher
I mean "strongest" depends on the metric. For kills per hour, base drops, money and a few other bonuses then yes bubo is still strongest. Specifically for certain rare farming like statues then DK should generally be best but technically depends on map. Maestro is a fair bit behind the two now in pretty much every viable metric so hopefully elite brings it back to viability for active play. I do think DK is a breath of fresh air and has some nice benefits besides rare farming but it by no means Kills or really even competes with bubo in certain metrics.
Hey man, absolutely LOVE the video! Appreciate it! Just tried to check out your IE page, but it hasn't been updated in a while; any reason for this? Could you update it if there's no specific reason to NOT update it? :) Thx!
Nah no specific reason not to really, just been pretty afk the last couple weeks really and I always like doing samples and such when updating which is very time consuming. I should finish those tonight though and will prob update then. Oh also I am in alpha and when that's around I'm not able to update
Could you talk about the atom collider. Maybe hit on what bubbles are good to upgrade with atoms and how they scale or what bonuses are worth it. Lots of people can't tell if they should go for atoms or not.
Sure, I will add that to a vid soon! for now I am working on larry to get it to 501 currently as I think thats the best investment long term though its expensive.
@@kvander118 there is a few bubbles like mage/warrior is best or and of the tool efficiency ones but honestly by the time you are upgrading with atoms most those bubbles down scale pretty harshly that I think investing atoms elsewhere is probably more efficient
@@KalvickQT still kinda yeah lol bow and spear are maybe tied now but spear still is instant so hard to say, if you can attack speed cap spear than 100% it's better
I just want to let everyone know since I just got banned from the discord for finding this out. You can still "Click" on your "items" or "skills" tab to do the old sailing exploit. It no longer works if you hit escape but will still work if you just click "skills" or "items". Thank you :)
Honestly dude you deserve so much, mad informative and super in depth. Im always happy when I see you post a new vid. Love ya bro!
Yep, I rarely click so fast on thumbnails.
Well deserved for arguably the best informational content about Idleon! :D
Thanks for the vids man. Your content is awesome, keep it up!!
Everytime you post a new video and i thought i got somewhere you already progressed so much more its incredible
Agree I have watched a fair few idleon channels and this is the only one I have commented on or has actually impacted the way I play so thank you. I was already using aura over poison at this point but had not thought to switch from wand to spear. I lose a multi kill tier which sucks a bit, but probably is compensated for with the extra aura spread. I also had not considered the difference between raise dead and aura first. Crystallin stamp lvl also makes a difference, as if sufficiently high it seems bubo doesn't move much even with the spear as there are so many xtals!
THANK GOD. havent watched it yet but thx for the video thats probably amazing
Congrats on 1k my man!
Gratz on 1k!
Congratulations on hitting 1k
Congrats on 1k!!
Congrats on 1k subs! 🎉
me watching this with a lv 95 bubonic conjurer : interesting
Samee
Love your content, subbed. I think content is amazing so I can add only 1 thing for your future vids. Maybe a bit less jittering and stuttering if you can avoid it. but o/w amazing super informative. thanks a bunch
Congrata on 1k and thank you so much for all the informativ Content.
This Video is very endgame oriented but i think many people are at the lower end of Power and have questions about that.
Like when should i start bubo farming? When my Talents are atleast lvl 120? 155?
I cant use Aura reliably yet so should i use poison instead? And If i use poison should i only Farm on Maps where it 1 ticks the enemys HP?
I think These are questions Most people are wondering
Ah Yes I should have covered this more but the best part about aura is its dmg modifier is so much higher than poison that you can actually farm at much much lower dmg needed than with poison, as far as when you can you do really want lvl 200+ talents but that is more endgame focused as you said. Realistically you can use lower talent levels and depending on the map you really wont miss out on much efficiency. for a lot of w5 maps I would just prioritize aura over poison for lower dmg accounts.
Also great content thanks
good lord this class is OP lol, i hope lava makes some changes to bring the other classes in line at least a little bit
You can get level 200 with the +10 from atom collider and fury not ancient! The +level talent gives enough to push you to over 200.
Congrats again on 1k man !!! I'm wondering, any reason to not put cranium on 1st slot just to make sure it procs right when its available? Sometimes the cooldown is done and doesnt proc for a couple minutes while on last slot because of how crazy the other 3 are popping off 😂 Cheers !!
Cold honest truth is I'm not sure if it delays casting being in slot one even if down and this build fills liquid so fast that losing a few minutes of cranium is whatever lol I was tempted to remove it from the bar entirely since I need to dump like every hour lmao
@@13jrohrer Haha I'll test money/hr with cranium on slot 1 or 4 to see if it makes any difference when I get the chance to do so. Youre right it fills up so quick that Im just having big FOMO of "yeah but what if it doesnt proc for 3 hours !!" 😂😂
I've been toying around with 5th slot teleport as a sort of catch up mechanic that only kicks in when something weird happens with the spawns/timing. I'll try your order and drop teleport (keeping CC on 1 for the GT gains lol). Current best is 226k seconds with 201MS and teleport, raise dead first. I think you're absolutely right with the movespeed though, I removed the starsign and put in more green pots.
Thoughts on fist to drop 10 more range or no weapon?
Great video as always, grats on the 1k subs.
Not sure I understand, you mean using just regular fists or gloves?
Wait I'm dumb and was reading it wrong, uh I think it's worse as sometimes the cleave helps and 10 range is hardly nothing. Regular fist definitely not as it has low attack speed (I think it's like 3 or 4 can't quite remember)
Can't wait to reach this level lol. Just started on w3 and still haven't gotten the talent for printing
Does the bubonic have to be assigned to the liquid to get more when using cranium cooking or can it be put in the other coldrens and still get the liquids
Im starting w5 right now, my beast master is my most leveled character, its 350, everything else is 150, my alch bubbles are really low leveled for w5 standards and my BM dmg is about 87m, so its very very low for w5 standards too, what do you think i can do to get everything better lined up? if u dont mind i can share my idleon efficiency with you, maybe that can help with some steps haha
FYI I don't know if it's a bug or intentional, but the colldier bubble upgrade for atoms currently seems broken in a useful way. When you upgrade the collider, it resets the bubble upgrades, you can do 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 etc all in 1 day. Just use them, upgrade the collider atom and repeat
Yep it's known to lava, a minor upside if you can afford it!
I should probably join discord, and abuse this as much as possible before it's fixed. I just have every player with the largest possible sample in lab and linked to harriep right now
Great video! What would you recommend for someone still at floms with spear?
Build wise? I'd go raise dead, aura, ghost, chemical warfare, cranium. That map is large enough and enough platforms that you can't properly aura it so best to just get as many raise deads as possible
@@13jrohrer Thanks!
Curious how you would run on Biggole Moles - 220 aura 220 tent / 900M damage with staff 700M damage with spear / 150% crit
(I was using spear because damage still didn't really seem to be a factor and, assuming aura spread better on this map.
although staff he stays middle of map more and possibly kills more an hour ignoring top right platform?
raise dead>aura>ghost>CC , because well idk why)
Hmm sounds good to me, that map is kinda spread pretty far. Aura probably gets better results but would need to test. If you aren't resetting too quickly I'd say cannisters might not be bad
Can you explain how you have so much Bars expecially Starfire? I really struggle to get some i thing id need around 450.000 Bars to make armour and weapons for all of my Characters, and i have a lot of ores, But the smithing takes incredibly long. Do you shorten it up just with your archers on green Mushrooms with the talent or are there other tricks im missing? I only manage around 400.000 kills per hour and that seems like its not enough to make like a LOT of Bars. Any tips?
Using 1hr candies or otherwise small afk claims of 5-10 min is enough to smelt a furnace worth of bars in conjunction with the archers smelting every day talent, If you have low kills per hour you can use frogs as well but honestly I recommend just using lab+ 2x god to pump kills higher
with the release of DK, is your stance on bubo still the same? being the strongest?
is DK more like maestro? meaning, drop rate loot farming?
I mean "strongest" depends on the metric. For kills per hour, base drops, money and a few other bonuses then yes bubo is still strongest. Specifically for certain rare farming like statues then DK should generally be best but technically depends on map. Maestro is a fair bit behind the two now in pretty much every viable metric so hopefully elite brings it back to viability for active play. I do think DK is a breath of fresh air and has some nice benefits besides rare farming but it by no means Kills or really even competes with bubo in certain metrics.
What do u think the best map is for cranium cooking I am up to oranges on world 5 and about 200mil damage but only 130% crit
Truthfully I do not know anymore, When I was playing wurms was best but I assume there is a rift map that is better now. Sorry Can't be of much help.
which keychain were you using in the video? was it the one that give 25% drop rate?
No this was before those came out, just regular Dr key chains
@@13jrohrer does dr keychain worth it at late game?
@@HuanNguyen-oe8jm yes they are very good
Hey man, absolutely LOVE the video! Appreciate it! Just tried to check out your IE page, but it hasn't been updated in a while; any reason for this? Could you update it if there's no specific reason to NOT update it? :) Thx!
Nah no specific reason not to really, just been pretty afk the last couple weeks really and I always like doing samples and such when updating which is very time consuming. I should finish those tonight though and will prob update then. Oh also I am in alpha and when that's around I'm not able to update
Could you talk about the atom collider. Maybe hit on what bubbles are good to upgrade with atoms and how they scale or what bonuses are worth it. Lots of people can't tell if they should go for atoms or not.
Sure, I will add that to a vid soon! for now I am working on larry to get it to 501 currently as I think thats the best investment long term though its expensive.
@@13jrohrer Do you think there is any bubble that’s worth upgrading with atoms that would increase sample size for woodcutting or mining?
@@kvander118 there is a few bubbles like mage/warrior is best or and of the tool efficiency ones but honestly by the time you are upgrading with atoms most those bubbles down scale pretty harshly that I think investing atoms elsewhere is probably more efficient
100% sure spear is better than staff on tremor..? (at least is the difference noticeable enough for loss of stats / staying close to rope?)
Yes, its not even close
@@13jrohrer What about now?? ;)
@@KalvickQT still kinda yeah lol bow and spear are maybe tied now but spear still is instant so hard to say, if you can attack speed cap spear than 100% it's better
@@KalvickQT the cleave was like cool and all but not really why you don't use bow/spear. You use it because ranged attacks are really really bad
@@KalvickQT oh also it's only close on siege breaker, 100% spear better on bubo
how do you cancel the cooldown?
If you mean any ongoing cd's you can cancel them by visiting the dungeon map. Or you could I dont know whats changed since I quit.
What Cards do you use ?
Not sure what the meta cards are ever since I quit so sorry about that.
@@13jrohrer ah okay no worries =D
how much is your mob respawn that they just respawn instantly
i know of the graveyard skill but can u reduce cd on that?
Yeah it's the skill raise dead which instantly respawns things, so respawn speed isn't even counted
i am in world 5 and my shaman is only lv 83 and not a bubonic conjurer yet my highest character is a lv 169 siege breaker 😛
How do you get 33B damage😱
this kinda sucks for mobile players because their batteries are gonna just get drained.
I just want to let everyone know since I just got banned from the discord for finding this out. You can still "Click" on your "items" or "skills" tab to do the old sailing exploit. It no longer works if you hit escape but will still work if you just click "skills" or "items". Thank you :)