Explained: The radical changes to the Abu Dhabi and Australian F1 tracks
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- Опубліковано 10 сер 2021
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The ending was awesome haha. That Saudi track is the price for improved Yas Marina I guess lol
Have you even watched till the end?
And hearing that Saudi could be the last race this year if they can’t sort out travel restrictions for Abu Dhabi, yikes.
@@Sambysaurus there’s going to be a missile treat like in formula e for sure
@@CB-mr1ci 😐
@@CB-mr1ci also that was a criminal attack
Bring 'em on, all look good to me!
Hi tommo mate
Then again its you we're talking about, sooooo, yeah.
Even Jeddah lol?
Tommo the clout chaser commenting on every f1 related video he can 😂 you the man Tommo haha
@@corymcdonnell6109 come on he's hardly clout chasing. He's just showing his appreciation for Stuart's professionally edited and explained videos. Can't blame him 😅
These changes look super interesting. Really looking forward to the racing that takes place
Same. Just hope people don't cry about trying to pass at the new 220KPH turn at Albert Park. OOOH you can't pass at that turn! That's not allowed. It's too fast!
What about the extra forces and heat it's going to put through the tyres? It's asking a lot of Pirelli
@@howdareyou41 FIA response: *Isn't this what you !@#$ing wanted?!*
When the word got out that some tracks are being upgraded, we were like, "where can I see the changes?" oh bloody hell. This video, as always has shone light on the changes and upgrades. Kudos..
10:24 about the hotel being hemmed in by the marina.... the whole island was man-made so they literally could have built it differently
And it's not like there's any lack of money in abu dhabi to change/expand the man made island a bit
@@thingiezz I do think its quite difficult to change it now given that the building has already been built though...
Yeah, but, to be fair - hindsight is 20-20.
Yes, and he basically mentioned that. Something to the effect of "it's not like they HAD to build the whole track around a hotel". As you say that wasn't something that was a consequence of the way it was laid out, it was the plan right from the start.
I think its interesting to see that newer tracks and reworked tracks tend to become faster with more fast flowing sections and high speed "corners".
Do you think Nascar started out as track races and over time improved their tracks this way and "flowed" out all the corners until they were left with a donut?
@@bilalsaloojee532 No lol, most tracks both in the US and around the world started out as fast flowing tracks with a lot of straights and fast flowing corners. European tracks diverged from this in the 70s and started adding chicanes and more heavy braking zones to suit open wheel cars. Stock cars don't need that stuff and still kept on going with ovals
@@altpersonas I love how seriously you took this lmao, I was being half silly when I made that comment 🤣 but I love the explanation still 😁
@@bilalsaloojee532 You should give that question to IMS when they flooded the calendar with quad oval and tri oval cookie cutter tracks in the 90s and 2000s, lol.
We untilke them bro :D
would love to see a video on driving styles. something similiar to brundle did 10 years ago but with the current grid. pros and cons and how they are different
linnk?
Driver61 did a couple of videos on driving styles (Senna, Schumacher, Alonso and Verstappen I think). Of course out of that 4 only 2 are currently driving in f1
@@lukababilodze4283 I think as a driver, he was more able to read the differences better. I would definitely love someone doing a number of videos like that though. Hearing something like Karun Chandhok talking about George Russell's driving style during his laps at Silverstone and Austria during qualifying really made me think about the possibilities of someone doing a deep dive on styles. I think we could get a good combo rn out of Hamilton, Verstappen, Bottas, Leclerc, Vettel, Alonso, Norris, Gasly, Ricciardo, and Russell
@@lukababilodze4283 yeah ive seen them. He's done one on Hamilton as well but the Alonso seems very outdated because it was explaining his driving style at Renault and not what he's currently like
Peter Windsor has some great, analytical insights into the driver's different styles.
Optimism throughout and then Saudi appears. . .
Also: V hyped to see you join Nebula
There are SOOOOO many content creators I watch who are moving or have moved to Nebula. Mix that with Curiosity Stream and that $15/yr is looking like a steal.
@@JimTheFly these services are usually $10 per MONTH so $15 is definitely a steal!
Finally some motorsports content. Now it seems way more convincing lol
Its sad that physically changing abu dabi is the only way we'll have a finale with overtaking anytime soon
Well, when the final track sucks that's obviously the only way?
@@marchelmberger6249 He's hinting at the idea of not having Yas Marina as the final race at all
Spa season closer??
@@namenamename390 Interlagos would be the best final race
@@AmokCanuck Interlagos
who's here after that crazy saudi race to figure out who will have the advantage at this track next weekend.
I really should start watching f1. I don't even watch it and I love learning about it. You make it so easy to digest and you help explain things it's great
It's so much fun. I hope you give it a try
You’re in the best season to start. It’s been drama filled has had tight racing and the championship is going to the wire (for now).
I was where you are now in octobre 2019... Absolute F1 superfan now lol
Just take the leap, it's worth it
If you have Netflix, I would recommend u watch drive to survive. It's a show that tells u the story of each season and the struggles the teams and drivers faced and the politics behind f1! Basically it starts from 2018 until 2020 with each season of the show corresponding to a year in f1 (and hopefully it continues on!) I watched it during the last two weeks and it made f1 so much fun and exciting and actually care for the teams
Yeah give it a go. For start watch drive to survive on Netflix to get recent-history facts about it and I could also recommend to watch the race highlights of this season on f1 UA-cam channel. At the end of the month it will start again at Belgium so make sure u don’t miss it!
Albert Park and Circuit Gilles Villeneuve have always felt pretty similar to me in sims. Now they'll be just as quick.
They are pretty similar, aren't they? Some of those corners are nearly identical.
8:12 Verstappen wins the F1 Championship: Explained
Oh, how I wish we could have the old 7.9 Km Interlagos layout back, that track would be a dream come true for the new era of cars.
Old tracks are just superior and it looks like designers finaly notice it. Time to get rid of damn tilke
same for old Hockenheim. My favorite track
Rewatch this after watching the highlight.
Tbh, despite the controversies happened, I have to admit current Yas Marina managed to deliver some crucial overtaking.
Some quality racing in Marina at last!
@@Dat-Mudkip Only then overshadowed by last lap controversy.
The best things about Yas Marina so far have been the pit exit tunnel and the RGB hotel. I hope the changes can make it worth staying up to watch.
“Utterly, pantalooningly, horrendous…”
- Chain Bear 2021 -
Abu Dhabi looks really good now. Hope there's a track mod for Assetto Corsa.
Ive been waiting for one for a while, but I havent found one on Racedepartment yet sadly.
i see that modern F1 circuits design went back to prewar-early years of F1 where speed is king
prewar?
@@grjz1e746 grand prix already exists from 1930s if i'm not mistaken. But the series we knew today starts in 1950
@@ilham7345 Since 1906 I believe, when the French ran the first Grand Prix. Pre-war (30s) there actually was a European championship
That’s it, we’re going back to Avus. Only DRS overtakes, redlining cars, and anti-Michelin banked turns. Simply, simply lovely.
@@skurd721 Rear wing on the avus would be too small for DRS, finally
I don't like the fact of transforming every part and corner of racing tracks into 'high-speed-parts'. It's not just that I'm concered about the safety of drivers instead I always loved hard-braking-zones because those overtakings always looked so cool and (finding the right) braking (point) is just such a key element in racing!
Hard braking zones are not going anywhere anytime soon
@@iamlarsen7896 They removed almost half of them in australia though....
@@fixer10091994 they removed them with the goal of making the ones that did remain even harder
Well, after some 70 years of F1 racing (and a bunch of boring Tilke circuits) we've finally realized that hard braking zones are "pointless" unless preceded by a straight or fast combination of corners. The problem is that multiple (more than 2) slow corners in succession will make the racing less exciting (read: pedestrian).
I loved Sepang for that reason, and Shanghai, too.
Honestly. That chicane at Yas Marina after the second straight is my favorite chicane ever in racing. Something about the entry and how you have to exit it that I get so satisfied when I nail it when I sim race. It’s the best chicane I ever driven. Most fun for me. I’ll miss it
Yeah I've always enjoyed racing at Yas Marina. It's a fun track to drive in sim racing because the effects of dirty air isn't as pronounced. But IRL it is unfortunately a boring circuit to watch an F1 race at
But the change was important to improve the racing there
I'm actually excited for Yas Marina this year. That sweeping banked left turn is going to be so fun in the simulator.
Why does the water shown at 10:22 - 11:22 have some kind of silhouette of the previous turns 5/6/7? Quite strange.
I can't unthink the 'Dirty air' song when somone mentions 'dirty air'.
Thanks Stuart.
Wait, what, there's a song about farting?
@@daverussell457 No. xD About dirty air. :D
Honestly, I think Jeddah could be like Baku. Drama en masse. And Jeddah was yctually very fun to drive in Assetto Corsa.
Love the new outro!! I think the changes are great personally, but think just about every track could use having their last corner extended/slowed to make extra pitstops (that obvs skip the last corner) more viable.
“What is this” in reference to Jeddah. I honestly loved Jeddah. Top 5 tracks up there with spa and Baku. They just are all so good. And USA Texas is up there aswell
That full blast from T4 all the way to T11 looks really scary. I would be more happy if they reprofiled the T9 chicane into an even slower corner to allow drivers to send it in, Ricciardo style.
Watching this after the saudi gp, This is a real bulk of mixed and confused feelings.
10:11 didn't expect to see a butt plug on my lunch break.
Thanks for an awesome video. I'd read through the changes and even looked at pictures but your video has helped me fully understand the new layouts and has me looking forward to the 1st time we visit them. Thanks again. 👍
I love your videos so much! I would love even more deep dive videos into the different technical and engineering aspects of the car. I've saved all your videos on suspension, etc and I would love even more
Would have love to see them change turns 11 and 12 in Australian track. Can never seem to get them right in the f1 games. Guess I just have to get good I guess lol.
Moving the Australian gp to November would bring on some crazy heat conditions especially in Melbourne. You could be looking at no joke 40°c
Probably the only way we're going to get a 2022 Australian GP though. Can't see 14 day quarantine being gone by then.
And now Abu Dhabi is a memorable track for many fans because of the "last lap"
At first i thought this was an april fools joke, then I realised it was real and wasn't a huge fan, but as i think more and more about it, I'm actually really excited by the new layout at Albert Park, and this gave me more of an insight of what to expect which is nice!
Get rid of the F1 logo out of your profile. Don’t be that guy.
@@lukewalker3905 You're pleasant aren't you
@@lukewalker3905 btw i'm in the middle of designing another logo i can't think of anything else to use so for now i'll now this logo
@@JoshuaKJ5 nothing wrong with using the F1 logo
I love how technical this channel can get... and then you get VERY technical terms like the "flickity-flickity-flack" of Yas Marina's Sector 1. LOL!
I hope this will make this season more exciting
Well made video! This one cleared a few things up things I was wondering about.
What they don't get: they need sweeping medium speed corners before long straights, so that the draft effect can work right at the beginning of the straight. At the end they need heavy braking zones into combination which allow multiple lines. Cambers and a hilly topography helps as well.
Instead they always go for super slow corners before straights, so the draft does not work before the middle of the straight.
That dirty air reference got me
Did you have to end this on Jeddah? Now I'm in a bad mood :(
Anyway - this is an amazing video! How do you create your graphics? This is really high quality, and I'm sure most youtubers don't put that much effort in their videos!
after effect and premiere. learn those you are pretty set..
And what shit hole banana republic are u from to hate saudi that much? lol
God I adore your looks at track design and schedule makeup - always interesting. Hoping there's more in the future!
Yea don't know if the St Petersburgs grand prix is gonna be happening anytime soon
(!) All that I am about to say refers to the new Albert Park, and only that circuit. (!)
I think they should only have widened the corners and not change the layout itself.
When I look at the updated section on the other side of the lake (Turns 8 to 11), I personally have a pretty strong "Jeddah Feeling" , if you know what I mean. And we have all seen how terribly wrong this can go.
And after all, why change the track before the new car generation races there, and not after the first "new" Grand Prix took place?
Not talking about possible DRS shenanigans due to the new distribution of DRS zones, although that was unknown by the time the changes were planned.
Maybe the layout changes (apart from the increased corner width) would not
have been necessary after all, given that the ground effect philosophy changes the circumstances of following and overtaking as a whole.
I’ve been getting a lot of wonderful content today
If it's F1 related let's hear it.
@@nucleardrifting3864 for example Aston put up a video with Seb showing off the drivers safety gear
Another great video. These track alterations look very interesting. Will be good to see if they worked. I think it is a good idea having more flowing corners to keep cars close until they arrive at a passing opportunity.
I LOVE the editing on this one, very well done!
Thanks as always. Could you please do a video covering “steering lock”?
I welcome the changes to Albert Park, but I wonder how much adding track on the inside of a corner *really* encourages overtaking... I mean, the defending driver is not forced to drive the "old" wider line, are they! So the racing line just has a new apex, which will be faster and therefore easier to defend? Maybe I'm missing something!
Going around the outside is still possible to overtake if your faster. Widening the corner makes it more possible because you can run wide more.
Also the faster car on the outside is less likely to be taken out, by the defending driver outbraking and understeering into them, because some of the corners are off camber on the inside.
Youre not missing anything
Amazing video, thank you. As a 20+ year follower of F1, I can't recall this number of track updates in the name of racing in one year. I recall updates for safety. Not opposed to those, but nice to see we get racing updates now as well.
Some of your best work. Love the animations and explanation!
Codemasters be like "bruhh"
@@coletrickIe * laughs in assetto corsa *
always enjoyed turns 9 & 10 of albert park in the F1 game, so kinda sad to see that go. really hoping the changes in melbourne help the racing, cause i agree that i also really enjoy the track despite the bad rep it gets.
I think Yas Marina should have had sector 1 with a shallower turn 3 running into a straight going straight to turn 6 - this would have kept the tighter hairpin and created a much heavier braking zone to battle before hitting the back straight
This was great content! F1 announced the changes but didn't explain how it allows for better racing. This was very informative and explained the nuances of how corners in F1 really work! Love the breakdown, keep up the good work!
I'm no track expert nor really understand fully how a tracks makes good or boring racing, but as far as I know, all this changes are adding medium and fast speed corners, the type of turn you'd expect to generate dirty air that makes the car in front harder to follow closely, which ultimately ruins the gold racing (take Barcelona for example). I guess that if the track is wide enough you could have good racing? I don't know, but I'm optimist that this could work if the 2022 F1 cars do get rid efficiently or the dirty air.
Yeah, more than side by side action I was thinking more along the lines "what one of the cars is following the other ?". It makes perfect sense. And in a way I think it's good we won't have Australia 2021. We'll see in Abu Dhabi I guess.
Well, if the FIA has done their job, the 2022 spec cars won't suffer from dirty air and everything will be fine. So yeah, it's probably going to suck.
DRS at lakeside drive? You gotta have balls of steel to activate that if they implement it. The lake and the palm trees are right there
i remember in 2012 when DRS could be activated anywhere in the lap during quali and free practice. drivers activated it down 130R in suzuka
@@KHRrocks didn't Seb run the whole Suzuka with drs open apart from a few corners?
Great video, first one of yours I have watched. Ross Brawn has said they are looking at Monaco, I wonder what they will come up with there!
Dude your animations and general production quality are top notch. Perfectly simplified to be digestible yet still detailed enough to be nice to look at. And the outro is gorgeous 😘👌🏼 Absolute quality content and a perfect example of how this type of information should be presented, keep it up!
Driver61 and Chain Bear content in the same hour? Man, when is the collab gonna drop...
hopefully soon...
With all the cambering going on in Melbourne they should rename it to Camberra!!!!
fun fact about the Albert Park circuit changes - the slight shortening of the track means the race will be 59 laps instead of 58 laps
Was coming on here to say that. But yeah, 58 laps would be 303.39km.
New albert park = Monza 2.0 With those widenings and making turn 9 and 10 basically a straight, there is going to be some serious top speeds...
I think "Pantalooningly" might be my new favourite word...
Honestly I’m pretty sure the changes to Abu Dhabi won’t improve things much. The section that is the real problem is barely changing so it’s unlikely to make a real difference.
If they just wanted to improve overtaking at any cost they could just got straight from turn 16 to what is now turn 20. They’d have to add extra runoff at the final corner but they’d never do it because the track is a showpiece and they love the shots of the cars going under the hotel.
Shame really because making that one change to the track would probably make it pretty decent.
I applaud the changes in Melbourne and Yas Marina! Now they would be more flowing and hopefully more prone to actual "racing". Particularly interesting are the banking in Zandvoort and Melbourne. In touring car racing , this new Zanvoort works pretty well.
BTW, nicely done video 👍
i really love this changes and hope to see more changes comming to other track... am looking at you spain.
Feels like these changes are learning lessons from the legendary circuits of Europe. Simplify, add speed, and let the racing provide the drama. [I think the huge increases in driver safety allow us to undo some of the safety-focused changes required in the post-Imola 90s.]
Let's not undo the safety that's saved a lot of drivers lives, now.
But real talk. The actual reason tracks of old were so unique and so varied, is because back then you had whatever land you could get your hands on. If you have an area with massive undulations, rises and awkward banking then you make do with what you have; moving the earth to such an extensive degree was difficult and prohibitively expensive back then. I'll list a few examples.
Laguna Seca's corkscrew is an infamous example of this; flatten it out and it is little more than a sharp, near-90 degree corner. Seriously, look it up on whatever map program you use - on paper, there is nothing impressive about the corkscrew. Add a massive elevation change that also messes with the camber, and you have a recipe for one of the most famous turns in racing.
Let's go to Europe. Spa-Francorchamps. That infamous hill, flattened out, is basically a kink. Many of Spa's turns would be rather generic, except the track has a lot of elevation and camber changes caused because the track was built around the countryside.
Another example - Mount Panorama. Most of those turns are boring and generic, it is the unsettling nature of the elevation changes that makes them so much more entertaining to watch.
Watkins Glen and Sear's Point (or whatever it's been renamed to) are both well-liked tracks, and both tracks are hilly with elevation changes, unusual cambers as a result and pose a challenge to making a decent setup.
Modern tracks were made with modern machinery, and we can shape the earth into almost any shape we want. So what do we do? We flatten EVERYTHING. It's a big part of the reason the Circuit of the Americas moved so much earth to make its uphill/downhill section. It was aiming for something interesting.
If we want to see more interesting tracks, then we should start looking for those chunks of land where the circumstances are not ideal for a racetrack, where cars are operating outside, not inside, their comfort zones. I doubt there is a modern race car in existence that inspires confidence during a high-speed run of the corkscrew, or is perfectly balanced going down the Big Dipper of Mount Panorama. Take any classic track, flatten it out, and it becomes a much less interesting race all of a sudden.
@@XandreUK Finally somebody gets it.
As a melbournian I’m pumped. Looks like it’s going to be a seriously fast track, hopefully known for good racing rather than purely a fun time. One thing we do well is sport as a festival / event (not that I’m biased or anything 😬)
Stuart you are an absolute gift to the F1 and motorsport community! Only you have the skills and passion to put out high quality videos like this that can educate and excite us. Thank you!
I'm always so thoroughly impressed by your videos. Please never stop making these
10:30 Am I the only one seeing a butplug where the hotel is supposed to be? 😂
As soon as I saw it I scrolled down the comments to see who else had seen it.
I see a razor, but each to their own
When will we see Rope Otter again?
I’ve always loved Albert Park! I’ve missed it the last few years. Can’t wait to see what it looks like!
"Glad they're finally doing SOOOOOMETHING!" Spot on!
I fear that the changes to T1 and T3 in Australia will only make overtaking more difficult
right! won't it make the corners faster = shorter breaking ?
@@matungamusic Yeah my thoughts exactly.
It's funny. When this video was posted to youtube in the past (4 months ago) no one said it was a Hamilton track or anti-Verstappen track. Now we are in December and clowns are now crying saying this track was made to stop Verstappen LMFAO.
Like the Melbourne changes but worried about a really easy overtake on the high speed section
Got a feeling that these tracks go a lot more to "ovals"
Downforce loss happens a lot in corners, but remember that top speed also gets a massive hit with the all the dirty air.
So I don't know if anything will improve
Meanwhile Spain still isn't getting rid of the chicken
As someone who's driven the old layout of Spain in GTR2, I can agree with this. The last two corners were a challenge with the gravel traps and grass runoffs; but now, with more tarmac runoff, I feel the chicane is a bit redundant now.
Wondering if someone's already made mods for these two tracks in Assetto Corsa
just thinking that
Thank you for finally credit the music. Going straghit to Spotify and listening.
Chain bear: ''It might no be the softest range this time.''
Pirelli: ''It is the softest range''
The Albert Park changes sounds awesome but
I am not sure how I feel about the loss of T9-10 of Albert park tbh,
that was a pretty good braking point into a cornered traction zone which should be good for overtaking or building up for the next move
I doubt the fast S will do anything useful with T11-12 might shuffle the cars back to single file
same with Igora drive, I don't see any problem with a Turkish GP style end, a heavy braking point and a slow chicane to give the defending car a bit more chance ,
why give it a Turkish T8 style end to it? smaller braking zone, Dirty air, and with a slow speed acute right to end the lap, doesn't feel fun at all on paper
I guess the time will tell?
11:54 that is a giant piece of shit
Turn 13 at Albert Park feels *very* different even in a road car at just 40km/h. It’s just enough to notice by looking at it if you’re looking for the camber but more than enough to feel it underneath you.
Great work as always, keep it up.
The subtitles covered some of the graphics used for explaining the changes.
0:29 "Dirty, dirty, dirty air" would make a good song lyric for an F1 song.
6:15 November is still Spring and knowing Melbournes weather it would defnintely feel like it.
11:53 And what is this, exactly? One thing I learned from racing sims is that you can't fully judge a track by its map because it doesn't show vertical changes and corner profiles, and these can change everything.
i loved how you explained the whole thing mate
Wow Albert Park (Yas Marina as well) pulled out all the stops, really impressed and can't wait for the new cars
This has "we're now on Standard network" annoucement video vibes
dont know about the australian changes, but we'll see how it goes
I personally think Albert Park is a hell of a banger, and should be left alone.
Yas marina however? The chicane would have been cool if it were further away from turn 7 and closer to 4, Turns 11- 15 can f off, the changes to turn 18,19 & 20 work for me.
The regulation made overtaking more and more difficult.
1) Widening the front wing made the cars more susceptible to the turbulence and increased the dirty air on the sides. The intent was to make overtaking easier, it had the exact opposite effect.
2) The pointy shape of the front wing increased outflow. Makes overtaking harder. That one was mostly estetic.
3) Lowering the rear wing cause more dirty air closer to the ground, making it harder to follow another car. The intent was to, somehow, make overtaking easier.
Quality video! Also, 11:52 THANK YOU
Punting your song right at the start. Nice!