LONG TERM REVIEW: I've been riding in this jacket for six years now and it still looks and feels brand new. I haven't been for a slide down the road so I haven't tested the abrasion resistance. But it has been certified AA under the CE requirements which is very good for a textile jacket. WHAT ABOUT THE KLIM VOYAGER AIR PANTS?: I didn't bother reviewing the Klim Voyager pants as they are discontinued. But old stock is still selling, just saw that Revzilla as them for 40% which isn't bad. They have been excellent vented pants - my only gripe? You can only get them in black so they start to warm up sitting traffic lights in summer. But so ventilated all is good once moving. AN EVEN HIGHER RATED JACKET? I did find a mesh jacket that uses Kevlar to be even more abrasion resistant but almost double the price, ouch! Check it out here: www.motoport.com/product/motoport-air-mesh-jacket/ QUESTIONS ABOUT KLIM'S CUSTOMER SERVICE: Klim was originally owned by Mormons in Utah, in 2012 they sold out to Polaris. The original management team is still in place though. Some claim that customer service has dropped since then. Klim had only averaged about 3.9 out of 5 for reviews on their Facebook page recently. From what I can see, some are unhappy with the warranty, and quite a few say some gloves are poor quality... but generally most still seem to think the riding gear is good quality. facebook.com/KlimUSA/reviews/ LIFETIME WARRANTY? Some mistakenly believe this applies to all Klim gear. But it only applies to Klim's very expensive top bracket gear. www.klim.com/warranty OTHER AA RATED OPTIONS? Are you using comparable adventure riding gear that meets the AA rating under the CE certification system? And not just the armour. Is the material AA rated for abrasion resistance if you slide down the road? Other AA rated gear to look at: Rev'it Cayenne, Rev it Sand 4, Adventure Spec Mongolia jacket, RST Pro... WHY PAY SO MUCH? Regular viewers know I take a budget approach to everything when I can. But occasionally someone will say why do use expensive Klim gear and Gaerne SG12 boots? My approach is go cheap when I can. But spend money for quality gear when it matters. My Klim gear is AA rated so I won't need skin grafts if I slide down the road. If you check the other AA rated brands, they are all roughly the same price. Good protective fabric costs money. Boots? After two sets of multiple fractures in my lower legs, I won't go cheap on boots anymore. And a survey of hundreds of riders indicates Gaerne is the best... probably followed by Forma then Sidi. IS THERE A CHEAPER WAY TO GET AA PROTECTION? Not that I'm aware of. You could buy a cheap jacket and wear body armour underneath... an option I wasn't keen on. And if you want AA rated body armour it will cost a lot anyway. Cheap leather jackets will be AA rated and expensive double stitched ones will even be AAA rated. This might be okay if you ride in cool weather most of the time, but we are in the sub-tropics and need ventilated jackets most of the gear. Subscribe for weekly adventure & dual sport vids! English not your first language? Many subtitles... Safety & protective gear vids bit.ly/3BmKeGE Our dual sport & adv ride vids bit.ly/3HTdvvl Bike & product reviews bit.ly/3BrnVjq The more bizzare side! bit.ly/34ZschR The more philosophical side bit.ly/3v9nKYX Riding across Vietnam bit.ly/3pej9Rt DR650 project vids bit.ly/3gQEStP Check out our other channels too... Cross Training Enduro bit.ly/3Jncax4 Cross Training Trials bit.ly/3uUjwEm
I was in Atlanta, Georgia last summer and it was HOT!!! On the interstate this black guy passed me on a crotch rocket doing a wheelie and going at least 100 mph. All he was wearing were boxer shorts and flip flops. No helmet, no shirt, no socks, no sunglasses, no gloves and no concern for his safety. It was amazing!
Thanks for your review , after seeing this , I decided to get one and also keep my Klim Badlands pro for those winter months , thanks for a great review now i can ride more of the summer months as Covid and floods have limited my riding in Australia a lot , thanks again
i've been using the same combo of Induction and Voyager for the past two seasons and it's been surprisingly great! really happy with my choice, in terms of comfort, breathability, and impact protection (i've upgraded to ce2 armor because i could). have not tested abrasion resistance, but i have faith in it since in my slide in revvit airwave a less tough material held up well (torn to bits but only a few scratches on skin, and that's from 230kmh)
Great to hear! The only issue I've had with the pants is they only came in black. Would have preferred a lighter color as you can feel them heating up when sitting at traffic lights. But the ventilation is awesome. I see Revzilla is selling off the last superceded stock at 40% off... not a bad deal. www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/klim-voyage-air-pants
I've got one and love mine. Only piece* of gear I wear every day that is still in good Nick 3 years on. The Velcro cinch on the wrists was rooted pretty soon after I got it. Have had two very little spills which it held up to well.
Durability does seem to be good so far. I haven't been using mine for all of the eight years I've had it... probably four of those. But given the way so much Chinese made stuff falls apart with age even if not using it I"ve been very happy so far with the Klim.
I was very tempted to buy one, then i saw a Revit Airwave 3 mesh jacket at a reduced price, so i bought it. When it will be dead i will consider again to buy the Klim Induction jacket that is surely one of the best & safest mesh jackets out there, but its so expensive!
Do you know if the Revti jacket meets any standards? My riding buddies are looking at mesh jackets too but hoping to spend less than the Klim if possible (cheap bastards lol).
CROSS TRAINING ADVENTURE : lol im cheap me too... idk if they meet specific standards, probably in Europe (CE)... maybe more informations here: www.revitsport.com/en/jacket-airwave-3-47329.html#351
Motocap.com.au tested the Rev’it airwave 2 and it performed rather badly. Similar or worse than denim at about 0.5 seconds impact abrasion time. I don’t know if the airwave 3 is more protective but I imagine it would get an A rating which is similar to denim, at about 0.5 seconds of slide time. Jackets sold in the EU and the UK must have been certified to EN17092. So the airwave 3 probably is but the manufacturer probably didn’t mention it because an A rating is rather weak. Marketing folks have a hard time with EN17092 if it’s not a good rating. So the sometimes don’t say it or just say it’s certified without specifics. Motoport gets a lot of good reviews and I owned one but the manufacturer won’t certify anything because he doesn’t have to since he’s US based. So I’ve really no idea if it’s any good. Better than polyester mesh but not as good as leather. I personally have a base layer (bull-it’s covec airflow suit) which was tested to 6 seconds on the old standard. It’s a compression suit so it keeps my armour close to my body. I layer over that. It flows a ton of air and stays comfortable in the tropical summer. I’m wear it daily in southern Vietnam.
I tumbled about 10m on pavement in this jacket and still managed to wear a hole clean through the back of my shoulder. The main shell of the jacket is quite thin and I can tear it with my bare hands. I'm considering the Baja S4 for my next jacket instead.
This is what concerns me. I know they've rated the material as being abrasion-resistant but bitumen is very nasty stuff. I once skidded down the road at only 70kmh and that was enough to wear a hole through a pair of proper racing leathers.... so even a good textile isn't going to hold up well.
I’d like Motocap to test this jacket. I don’t think it would do very well. Motocap tested Klim’s badlands pro which was mediocre despite having much more robust materials. Mesh is definitely a huge trade off in protection for comfort. I think the induction is decent for off road but I wouldn’t rely on it for substantial road tours at brisk speeds.
I agree Martin, I would want something stronger for a lot of road work. But most of our adventure riding is on dirt and rarely at speed.... given the AA rating under the European prEN 17092-3 standard I feel confident with this gear. I haven't looked into this enough to see how rigorous the EU testing regime is though. I know our current research into helmets is showing that some of the expensive brands like Leatt, Airoh and Suomy have used inferior metals that can rust quickly and lead to strap failure, despite supposedly complying with the relevant standards. I think after an initial assessment they are allowed to just monitor themselves which can be a recipe for disaster.
check out the knox urbane pro shirt, you wear under your jacket ,when it gets hot or the off road get serious jacket comes off ,hands down its the best bit off riding gear i have brought
I’ve been wearing the Joe Rocket brand mesh jacket for a couple of years and I really like it. Way cooler than a normal textile jacket. How breathable is the waterproof liner in the Klim? The Joe Rocket one will make you sweat pretty bad.
It rains so rarely I've almost never used it, Andy. But it's still perfectly waterproof after eight years and all the user reviews I could find backed this up. But I don't think it's that breathable, the arms definitely get sweaty with the inner liner in hot weather.
I was kinda trying to decide between this and their Dakar jacket. I have a Klim Carlsbad I use fall through spring. Just not enough ventilation for summer. Been using a Leatt jacket with zip off sleeves but it's not enough protection for the street.
I used to ride with the Dririder rally jacket which I think is similar to Klim Dakar jacket... it was quite ventilated but just not enough for Aussie summers in my opinion. The Klim Induction has been the ducks nuts so far. 😊
Great review thanks. I've been looking at mesh jackets for summer (given how hot our summers are in here in Oz these days) and this one appears to be one of the best. On other matters ... jeez you guys must go through some rear rubber ... I don't see much use of the front tyre 😊. Thanks for a great channel 👍
I did find one jacket that appears to be even higher rated for abrasion resistance but it's getting close to double the price... ouch! www.motoport.com/product/motoport-air-mesh-jacket/
I’m planning my long trip in hot environment. I’m considering to wear only the protection shield (chest, back, shoulder and elbow) over a long T-shirt. Is that not enough? Or jacket is a must to get appropriate protection even I’m looks like a storm-trooper?
Bummer, I just checked on the website and yes there's no mention of the waterproof inner liner. 😢 Probably a cost cutting exercise, although I know some riders find an inner liner too sweaty and prefer to put an external rain jacket on.
Why not the Induction pants ? .. i actually am waiting for my Induction jacket to arrive.. i dont really have as much of an issue with the heat in my current riding pants. (HWK).. but im curious why you didnt match Induction jacket with Induction pants ? Oh.. sold my 690 , got an 890 adv r now
They didn't have any in stock and I'd have been waiting for months. 😢 And there was a good discount on the Voyager pants which were going to be discontinued soon and had the AA rating, same as the Induction gear. Enjoying the 890?
@crosstrainingadventure I am. Bought a used 2022.. with a whole 85 miles on it.. and some mods, including a Rekluse. All unlocked too.. for 16,000 US. This is a beast... pretty much as capable offroad as my 690 was, just obviously heavier.. but relatively easy to pick up. I will be ditching the rekluse, always didn't like them in theory, now that is validated when I had one. I absolutely detest the fact you can't just leave the bike in gear when off and have it not roll.. also using the method of turning the bike off and using the clutch to engage the rear wheel is not happening. My clutch control is just fine, and I don't like this Rekluse at all. Other then that, the cruise control is so sweet and the quickshifter is just insanely cool... and FAST .
What's your opinion regarding gear with built in armour, and wearing body armour separately to jackets etc? The advantage of separate seems to be that on impact the dedicated armour is less likely to have moved around. But then again, I kind of like keeping life simple and having all-in-one approach.
I have the exact same jacket. It flows a crap-ton of air. I pull the back protector out for the summer. It was worth the Klim tax. And fun fact. I have the same helmet in the same color...💅👍
how are you liking the helmet? two of us had troubles with the brackets rusting and the strap pulling off on our dirt bike suomy helmets but these adventure helmets seem to be okay.
@@crosstrainingadventure the helmet has been good so far. No rust real problems. I wish the peak was adjustable (lower) sometimes to block early morning sun, but other than that it does the job. It's sorta like the DR, it does a lot of things reasonably well. 👍
I heard some said mesh jacket is the worst choice in summer heat because you will be dried out similar to sitting at your desk and using a hair dryer for cooling down. Whats your thought?
CROSS TRAINING ADVENTURE I think the borderline is the speed. If you are on technical track with relatively slow speed, airflow is a must. However on highway above a certain speed level, direct hot airflow could worsen the the feeling
Good review of this brand of jacket. Like you in a warmer QLD climate, I have been using a cheaper chinese branded vented jacket my mate gave me, (he now has the dri rider vented version now, and would like to see how they compare?). The dri rider I have is a lot older and only has the vented zip reliefs, and a better all weather jacket, but not cool at all in summer.
i agree roger, at some point it gets too hot for even a well vented jacket and the best option is mesh. but then you have the issue of how well it will cope with a slide along the road. someone did mention a kevlar reinforced mesh jacket that is rated even better than thick leather but apparently it costs 50% more again than mine. ouch.
Yeah such a pity about the cost. my riding buddies are looking at mid-priced mesh jackets, if we can find one that meets the safety standards we'll do a review on it after a bit of torture testing.
I test all my new gear for worthiness by throwing it in my garage with my DR650 for about half an hour. It it is found to be worthy by the bush pig I then try it on and see if I like it.
This was mixed footage from various rides in the subtropics. Our summers are very similar to equatorial regions, so 30C+ and very humid. Winters are very mild, about 20C on average.
i can only afford one jacket, brent. 😢 however i have posted this vid the advrider forum and various guys there are comparing it other premium priced jackets like the marrakesh.
It is a problem and will probably keep getting worse since they have been bought out by a multinational company. Often that's when the quality starts to go downhill too. Time will tell...
Most of the time I suspect this is the case. Although I've been shocked at the high priced garbage that Fox is trying sell. Sometimes I think the huge companies will simply charge the most they can get away with... we have KTM doing that in Australia at the moment. 😢
LONG TERM REVIEW: I've been riding in this jacket for six years now and it still looks and feels brand new. I haven't been for a slide down the road so I haven't tested the abrasion resistance. But it has been certified AA under the CE requirements which is very good for a textile jacket.
WHAT ABOUT THE KLIM VOYAGER AIR PANTS?: I didn't bother reviewing the Klim Voyager pants as they are discontinued. But old stock is still selling, just saw that Revzilla as them for 40% which isn't bad. They have been excellent vented pants - my only gripe? You can only get them in black so they start to warm up sitting traffic lights in summer. But so ventilated all is good once moving.
AN EVEN HIGHER RATED JACKET? I did find a mesh jacket that uses Kevlar to be even more abrasion resistant but almost double the price, ouch! Check it out here: www.motoport.com/product/motoport-air-mesh-jacket/
QUESTIONS ABOUT KLIM'S CUSTOMER SERVICE: Klim was originally owned by Mormons in Utah, in 2012 they sold out to Polaris. The original management team is still in place though. Some claim that customer service has dropped since then. Klim had only averaged about 3.9 out of 5 for reviews on their Facebook page recently. From what I can see, some are unhappy with the warranty, and quite a few say some gloves are poor quality... but generally most still seem to think the riding gear is good quality. facebook.com/KlimUSA/reviews/
LIFETIME WARRANTY? Some mistakenly believe this applies to all Klim gear. But it only applies to Klim's very expensive top bracket gear. www.klim.com/warranty
OTHER AA RATED OPTIONS? Are you using comparable adventure riding gear that meets the AA rating under the CE certification system? And not just the armour. Is the material AA rated for abrasion resistance if you slide down the road? Other AA rated gear to look at: Rev'it Cayenne, Rev it Sand 4, Adventure Spec Mongolia jacket, RST Pro...
WHY PAY SO MUCH? Regular viewers know I take a budget approach to everything when I can. But occasionally someone will say why do use expensive Klim gear and Gaerne SG12 boots? My approach is go cheap when I can. But spend money for quality gear when it matters. My Klim gear is AA rated so I won't need skin grafts if I slide down the road. If you check the other AA rated brands, they are all roughly the same price. Good protective fabric costs money. Boots? After two sets of multiple fractures in my lower legs, I won't go cheap on boots anymore. And a survey of hundreds of riders indicates Gaerne is the best... probably followed by Forma then Sidi.
IS THERE A CHEAPER WAY TO GET AA PROTECTION?
Not that I'm aware of. You could buy a cheap jacket and wear body armour underneath... an option I wasn't keen on. And if you want AA rated body armour it will cost a lot anyway. Cheap leather jackets will be AA rated and expensive double stitched ones will even be AAA rated. This might be okay if you ride in cool weather most of the time, but we are in the sub-tropics and need ventilated jackets most of the gear.
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I was in Atlanta, Georgia last summer and it was HOT!!! On the interstate this black guy passed me on a crotch rocket doing a wheelie and going at least 100 mph. All he was wearing were boxer shorts and flip flops. No helmet, no shirt, no socks, no sunglasses, no gloves and no concern for his safety. It was amazing!
Thanks for your review , after seeing this , I decided to get one and also keep my Klim Badlands pro for those winter months , thanks for a great review now i can ride more of the summer months as Covid and floods have limited my riding in Australia a lot , thanks again
Glad I could help!
Its been a solid jacket for me, this combined with the dakar pants are my go-to for warm weather dual sporting
When I bought my DR off a buddy he gave me this jacket virtually brand new. I use it as a commuter jacket and love it.
good score on the jacket, they aren't cheap!
i've been using the same combo of Induction and Voyager for the past two seasons and it's been surprisingly great! really happy with my choice, in terms of comfort, breathability, and impact protection (i've upgraded to ce2 armor because i could). have not tested abrasion resistance, but i have faith in it since in my slide in revvit airwave a less tough material held up well (torn to bits but only a few scratches on skin, and that's from 230kmh)
Great to hear! The only issue I've had with the pants is they only came in black. Would have preferred a lighter color as you can feel them heating up when sitting at traffic lights. But the ventilation is awesome. I see Revzilla is selling off the last superceded stock at 40% off... not a bad deal. www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/klim-voyage-air-pants
I've got one and love mine. Only piece* of gear I wear every day that is still in good Nick 3 years on.
The Velcro cinch on the wrists was rooted pretty soon after I got it.
Have had two very little spills which it held up to well.
Durability does seem to be good so far. I haven't been using mine for all of the eight years I've had it... probably four of those. But given the way so much Chinese made stuff falls apart with age even if not using it I"ve been very happy so far with the Klim.
I was very tempted to buy one, then i saw a Revit Airwave 3 mesh jacket at a reduced price, so i bought it. When it will be dead i will consider again to buy the Klim Induction jacket that is surely one of the best & safest mesh jackets out there, but its so expensive!
Do you know if the Revti jacket meets any standards? My riding buddies are looking at mesh jackets too but hoping to spend less than the Klim if possible (cheap bastards lol).
CROSS TRAINING ADVENTURE : lol im cheap me too... idk if they meet specific standards, probably in Europe (CE)... maybe more informations here: www.revitsport.com/en/jacket-airwave-3-47329.html#351
Motocap.com.au tested the Rev’it airwave 2 and it performed rather badly. Similar or worse than denim at about 0.5 seconds impact abrasion time. I don’t know if the airwave 3 is more protective but I imagine it would get an A rating which is similar to denim, at about 0.5 seconds of slide time. Jackets sold in the EU and the UK must have been certified to EN17092. So the airwave 3 probably is but the manufacturer probably didn’t mention it because an A rating is rather weak. Marketing folks have a hard time with EN17092 if it’s not a good rating. So the sometimes don’t say it or just say it’s certified without specifics.
Motoport gets a lot of good reviews and I owned one but the manufacturer won’t certify anything because he doesn’t have to since he’s US based. So I’ve really no idea if it’s any good. Better than polyester mesh but not as good as leather.
I personally have a base layer (bull-it’s covec airflow suit) which was tested to 6 seconds on the old standard. It’s a compression suit so it keeps my armour close to my body. I layer over that. It flows a ton of air and stays comfortable in the tropical summer. I’m wear it daily in southern Vietnam.
I tumbled about 10m on pavement in this jacket and still managed to wear a hole clean through the back of my shoulder. The main shell of the jacket is quite thin and I can tear it with my bare hands. I'm considering the Baja S4 for my next jacket instead.
This is what concerns me. I know they've rated the material as being abrasion-resistant but bitumen is very nasty stuff. I once skidded down the road at only 70kmh and that was enough to wear a hole through a pair of proper racing leathers.... so even a good textile isn't going to hold up well.
I’d like Motocap to test this jacket. I don’t think it would do very well. Motocap tested Klim’s badlands pro which was mediocre despite having much more robust materials. Mesh is definitely a huge trade off in protection for comfort. I think the induction is decent for off road but I wouldn’t rely on it for substantial road tours at brisk speeds.
I agree Martin, I would want something stronger for a lot of road work. But most of our adventure riding is on dirt and rarely at speed.... given the AA rating under the European prEN 17092-3 standard I feel confident with this gear. I haven't looked into this enough to see how rigorous the EU testing regime is though. I know our current research into helmets is showing that some of the expensive brands like Leatt, Airoh and Suomy have used inferior metals that can rust quickly and lead to strap failure, despite supposedly complying with the relevant standards. I think after an initial assessment they are allowed to just monitor themselves which can be a recipe for disaster.
check out the knox urbane pro shirt, you wear under your jacket ,when it gets hot or the off road get serious jacket comes off ,hands down its the best bit off riding gear i have brought
I have used an Olympia vented jacket for years and years,its the best,flows great,is beefy,and all the huge vents zip shut quickly.
Which model
I’ve been wearing the Joe Rocket brand mesh jacket for a couple of years and I really like it. Way cooler than a normal textile jacket. How breathable is the waterproof liner in the Klim? The Joe Rocket one will make you sweat pretty bad.
It rains so rarely I've almost never used it, Andy. But it's still perfectly waterproof after eight years and all the user reviews I could find backed this up. But I don't think it's that breathable, the arms definitely get sweaty with the inner liner in hot weather.
I was kinda trying to decide between this and their Dakar jacket. I have a Klim Carlsbad I use fall through spring. Just not enough ventilation for summer. Been using a Leatt jacket with zip off sleeves but it's not enough protection for the street.
I used to ride with the Dririder rally jacket which I think is similar to Klim Dakar jacket... it was quite ventilated but just not enough for Aussie summers in my opinion. The Klim Induction has been the ducks nuts so far. 😊
I have the Induction jacket and pants and consider them a must-have in hot weather!
I especially like the jacket now that we are hitting high temperatures here again. So cool once you start moving...
Great review thanks. I've been looking at mesh jackets for summer (given how hot our summers are in here in Oz these days) and this one appears to be one of the best. On other matters ... jeez you guys must go through some rear rubber ... I don't see much use of the front tyre 😊. Thanks for a great channel 👍
I did find one jacket that appears to be even higher rated for abrasion resistance but it's getting close to double the price... ouch! www.motoport.com/product/motoport-air-mesh-jacket/
I’m planning my long trip in hot environment. I’m considering to wear only the protection shield (chest, back, shoulder and elbow) over a long T-shirt. Is that not enough? Or jacket is a must to get appropriate protection even I’m looks like a storm-trooper?
i figure that would probably do the trick for a slide down the road... as long as the plastic bits don't move and then let your skin do the sliding?
100% agreed including the pants. Note now there is no rain liner and they have fixed the velcro wrist 👊 ✊
Bummer, I just checked on the website and yes there's no mention of the waterproof inner liner. 😢 Probably a cost cutting exercise, although I know some riders find an inner liner too sweaty and prefer to put an external rain jacket on.
I put a note in the vid so viewers will know it's no longer included, thanks for letting me know, Oli.
Why not the Induction pants ? .. i actually am waiting for my Induction jacket to arrive.. i dont really have as much of an issue with the heat in my current riding pants. (HWK).. but im curious why you didnt match Induction jacket with Induction pants ? Oh.. sold my 690 , got an 890 adv r now
They didn't have any in stock and I'd have been waiting for months. 😢 And there was a good discount on the Voyager pants which were going to be discontinued soon and had the AA rating, same as the Induction gear. Enjoying the 890?
@crosstrainingadventure I am. Bought a used 2022.. with a whole 85 miles on it.. and some mods, including a Rekluse. All unlocked too.. for 16,000 US. This is a beast... pretty much as capable offroad as my 690 was, just obviously heavier.. but relatively easy to pick up. I will be ditching the rekluse, always didn't like them in theory, now that is validated when I had one. I absolutely detest the fact you can't just leave the bike in gear when off and have it not roll.. also using the method of turning the bike off and using the clutch to engage the rear wheel is not happening. My clutch control is just fine, and I don't like this Rekluse at all. Other then that, the cruise control is so sweet and the quickshifter is just insanely cool... and FAST .
What's your opinion regarding gear with built in armour, and wearing body armour separately to jackets etc? The advantage of separate seems to be that on impact the dedicated armour is less likely to have moved around. But then again, I kind of like keeping life simple and having all-in-one approach.
I'm with you on keeping things simple, Craig. But it's an interesting question though... would separate armour be safer?
@@crosstrainingadventure Based on nothing but supposition, I would think it at least no worse and likely more safe.
I have the exact same jacket. It flows a crap-ton of air. I pull the back protector out for the summer. It was worth the Klim tax.
And fun fact. I have the same helmet in the same color...💅👍
how are you liking the helmet? two of us had troubles with the brackets rusting and the strap pulling off on our dirt bike suomy helmets but these adventure helmets seem to be okay.
@@crosstrainingadventure the helmet has been good so far. No rust real problems. I wish the peak was adjustable (lower) sometimes to block early morning sun, but other than that it does the job. It's sorta like the DR, it does a lot of things reasonably well. 👍
I heard some said mesh jacket is the worst choice in summer heat because you will be dried out similar to sitting at your desk and using a hair dryer for cooling down. Whats your thought?
Interesting theory, but I figured you would just sweat more if you didn't have airflow.
CROSS TRAINING ADVENTURE I think the borderline is the speed. If you are on technical track with relatively slow speed, airflow is a must. However on highway above a certain speed level, direct hot airflow could worsen the the feeling
Good review of this brand of jacket. Like you in a warmer QLD climate, I have been using a cheaper chinese branded vented jacket my mate gave me, (he now has the dri rider vented version now, and would like to see how they compare?). The dri rider I have is a lot older and only has the vented zip reliefs, and a better all weather jacket, but not cool at all in summer.
i agree roger, at some point it gets too hot for even a well vented jacket and the best option is mesh. but then you have the issue of how well it will cope with a slide along the road. someone did mention a kevlar reinforced mesh jacket that is rated even better than thick leather but apparently it costs 50% more again than mine. ouch.
As usual, very informative and well put together 👍 I'd love the jacket but too poor, so it's body armor in summer for me till I win lotto 😉
Yeah such a pity about the cost. my riding buddies are looking at mid-priced mesh jackets, if we can find one that meets the safety standards we'll do a review on it after a bit of torture testing.
I test all my new gear for worthiness by throwing it in my garage with my DR650 for about half an hour. It it is found to be worthy by the bush pig I then try it on and see if I like it.
the bush pig is very demanding... that's setting the bar very high!
What temp where you driving ?
THANKYOU
This was mixed footage from various rides in the subtropics. Our summers are very similar to equatorial regions, so 30C+ and very humid. Winters are very mild, about 20C on average.
What size in this jacket did you go with? And how tall/heavy are you
Haven't got the jacket with me but I just used the sizing chart on the Klim website, it was accurate in my case.
Can you compare this jacket to the new baja s4 and marrakesh please?
i can only afford one jacket, brent. 😢 however i have posted this vid the advrider forum and various guys there are comparing it other premium priced jackets like the marrakesh.
@@crosstrainingadventure I got a perma ban for being a jackass on ADV's thumper section,what a bummer eh?
I'm surprised that you didn't get bucked off your bike from the rotational mass of that piston and ring. lol
thankfully this isn't the DR1800, it just jumps up and down on the one spot.
all good except the price, Klim pricing is ridiculous....
It is a problem and will probably keep getting worse since they have been bought out by a multinational company. Often that's when the quality starts to go downhill too. Time will tell...
Africa twin life!!!!!!
Valuable insights, I guess you get what you pay for eh?
Most of the time I suspect this is the case. Although I've been shocked at the high priced garbage that Fox is trying sell. Sometimes I think the huge companies will simply charge the most they can get away with... we have KTM doing that in Australia at the moment. 😢
BOoOpP.....
I dont like klim, colour is lost easly...