Binaural Sound Demo - Sony HT-A9 and Sony SA-SW5 Subwoofer
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Considering the money you’d pay, and the fact you can basically install this in any room easily, it’s pretty crazy how well the A9 system works compared to a traditional home theater system.
I've gone through more soundbars than I care to mention.
If you live in an apartment where a full on system is impracticable, you can't beat the HT-A9
Great demo, where you can find all these demos to teste the dolby atmos
Fantastic Audio Quality
Sony HT-A9 really rocks, I shall buy it.
Great comparison, this gives so much confidence to buy Sony HTA9. This video proves that Sony HT A9 can stand the test of dedicated Home theatre set ups. By listening to the sound test it proves that this package can give a good movie experience in a non-acoustic set up living room. As many mentioned if it is dedicated set up, we will not be able to achieve Sony’s quality in same budget, there it is to decide. Remarkable, revolutionary innovation by Sony.
Great demo! I actually preferred the Sonys in the Auro 3D demos and preferred your speaker system in the Dolby based demos, mainly because in Dolby demos the emphasis was more on the subs. In the demo at 7:38 the voice is much clearer and cleaner with the Sony HT-A9 (and really felt like the announcer was in the room) but sounds a bit veiled and muddier on the 12 speaker system and the same in the flight overhead demos as well. For music I would definitely buy a dedicated sound system with quality amps etc.
Curious which headphones you were using.
@@joentell Bose quiet comfort earbuds.
yea with my sennheiser headphones it sounds so good! literally sounds like someone is in the MIDDLE!
@@joentell I preferred your system Joe but considering the price, technology and versatility to people who might not have the space (or understanding neighbours 😅), I think the Sony is great value. Is there a link to a list of your setup?
Hi! I just got this system and am so freaking stoked! Can you please tell me what you're using for all the demos??!
Curious as to why you chose DRC=auto? Great videos and that 3 sub atmos is mindblowing.
Hi, Where are you obtaining your demo material from? I have this system, and would like to road test these demo’s myself, but the UA-cam versions aren’t fully Atmos etc.
Must get round to making some of our own UK recordings with the SonicPresence binaural mics.
Joe please let me know few things
1) which app has these demos
2) I’ve hooked my Xbox one s to HT A9 to my Epson 3700 which does max of 1080 p. The problem I’m running into: Xbox one s thinks that the “tv” (projector can only support stereo and cannot enable atoms or Dolby vision) I understand the vision part but for Atmos ideally Ht a9 should be able to support. I see that you’ve projected your video on a screen. So I’m wondering what I’m doing wrong that makes Xbox one s output stereo only
Can’t even compare these to systems to my ear, the 12 separate speaker system just expands the sound so well especially during the atmos demos. The Sony might be right for me since I have a small living room but that price is still a little steep right now( they even increased it a couple hundred since it launched)
what is the size of your room? mine is 13x18x8
@@michael-4k4000 15-17-8
Thanks for doing this review. Haters always going to hate out there
Hi bro .., I’m planning to upgrade my system to Sony HT A9 … to save some money, can I use my Bose SW700 match the HT 900 ? Will it work ?
Thanks
It was a great comparison thanks.
Interesting that you prefer DTS Neural:X for sound effect setting. When I switch to setting Sound Mode On, I hear a much more immersive sound bubble and deeper bass. It just sounds fuller and less flat, at least to my ears. 🤷♂️
Watch my measurements video to understand why I came to that conclusion. ua-cam.com/video/oQh6KQFWxvQ/v-deo.html
Where did you get those sound demos?
That bang near the end of the optimisation would have been enough to make me repeat it lol
Where did you get all the dolby atmos audio was it digital or demo disc? ITunes?
Sony ht9 sounds amazing . Considering only 1 subs. Vs 3 subs.
Sony sounds your inside. The 12 speakers sounded using the room to space the sounds. Thats how i hear it. Im waiting till this sony available again.
Where did you get all these demos. Please let me know . UA-cam won’t get it in Dolby atmos .
Great review as always!! Question for you, is it possible to connect say my Sony HTST-5000 soundbar system (use it as center sound and manually disable all other effects) and connect it to the HDMI output in the back of the HT-A9 system. Then connect the E-Arc of the HT-A9 will go directly to my TV E-Arc. Will both systems work with this type of connection for my LG-G1 TV while using both system at the same time for there intended purposes (remember I’ll be disabling all other effect on the HTST-5000 just keeping the center audio on. It allows to manually do this in settings?
Also note: both the HTST-5000 and HT-A9 are E-Arc compatible to my LG-G1 which is E-Arc compatible as well.
nope it will not work like that
If the dedicated system is 10, sony got a 7 in my book, pretty decent. If only you could have two subs. I feel like it loses output with the front centre. Wonder if it's any better with their tvs ability to take over as a centre speaker
New to the channel here, what is the app you are using to play the demos / music?
Hi Joe! I really liked your videos!
What did you use to do the atmos sound tests? UA-cam does not support Dolby Atmos, right?
It doesn't. Which sound tests?
Omg amazing bass from denon system
Can you add 2 subs to this system?
Is there a option to add a second subwoofer?
For outdoor speakers under a patio, are these okay ? There’ll be a projector. Any others 360 speakers ? Mainly for music rather than movies.
Too expensive to risk putting them outdoors, in my opinion. They weren't made for that.
Playback sounds great but I think I am sitting close to the front row and everything is behind me. I liked the Sony’s.
Was your projector connected to HT A9 via Bluetooth or HDMI ? If HDMI, does it connect via Bluetooth as well ?
I was using HDMI. I didn't try Bluetooth and I'm not sure it has that.
Bro, it looks like you’ve done everything right in the settings. However, the height needs to be at high not default. If you leave it at default or lower. It sounds like you’re in a tin. Can you have to put it on high?
Amazing ,
The Sonys did the spatial stuff surprisingly well considering they are only four physical speakers IMO. The tonality is way off though and they sound like they are struggling a bit (or maybe more than a bit) to fill the room.
Your dedicated system sounded much more balanced and effortless, but I guess that comes as no surprise.
I wouldn't buy the HT-A9 at their current price - way overpriced for what they offer sonically, I think even for the price of the set with the sub one can do better with a little effort...
My room is 20x20x9, so pretty large space.
You have some fair points but the A9 wont struggle with SPL in most rooms. I reach reference (85db) way way under 50% volume. And it won't distort going louder either. Sonically it lacks midrange that is just down to physics. But I think most would be surprised of how well the A9 performs in a typical living space.
Especially without Dynamic Range Compression and not comparing it to dedicated cinema rooms.
I'd say matching the A9 cinematic experience in most rooms for the same price would take more than a litle effort. It is not perfect but dang good mate, give it a listen if you have the opportunity!
Worth the money? It was a big concern for me until i got it set-up and got the subwoofer placement right. I've heard better systems but for at least twice the money and only in dedicated rooms.
@@vinrot can I ask where you found the subwoofer to be placed best and do you think behind a sofa would be ok
@@joentell My room ia 14x17x8
Do you have a video where you show your 12 speaker home theatre system? ~ A new subscriber.
I need to
So at @ 18:44 I could hear a female laugh in your Denon HT system but that is not audible in HT-A9. May I know why was it... Thanks and Please explain...
Joe your theatre sys is awsom the sony HT9 needs a bit of tuning
holy moly did the theater system sound bigger and more expansive to me and headset.
Thanks for posting this. The HT -A9 with the bigger subwoofer will be delivered tomorrow and I am looking forward to comparing it to what I have now. I have a 9.2 system in a fairly small room and hope the HT system can replace it and free up some space. I expect some decrease in sound quality and I am okay with that too a point. I will not be using the Sony for stereo listening, movies only. Where did you get the demo from? Cheers
How are you liking your song setup so far?
@@marcharrison1 I am really quite impressed. Setup was simple, perhaps 15 mins. Speakers are a similer color to the wall and blend in well. Sound is very immersive and can get quite loud. Amazing how the center channel dialog is clear and easy to hear regardless of what else is oing on in the scene. Went with the bigger sub which was probably overkill in my room. It is physically big and playes lord. I have it set to 2 (between 0 and 10) and it is just right. So yes, happy with the purchase so far.
@@lancecooperphotos I’ve recently purchased as well and wanted your input since you’ve had yours a little longer. Have you had any issues with cute out? I did once while watching a movie and changed some settings, since those changed I haven’t had any issues but I’m still hesitantly waiting to see if the issue occurs again. Overall, so far I’ve been really impressed with the system and the experience I’ve gotten from watching movies with it. A major upgrade from my previous soundbar and sub comb.
@@marcharrison1 I had an issue with sound cutting out and moved the unit a few inches and its been fine since.
@@lancecooperphotos oh cool! That’s good to know. I will move my Internet connections a little farther away and see what becomes of it. Thanks for that nugget.
if sony hve littel bit more refienment and option of adding more subwooer with hta9 then it will much more amazing
The bass is a big difference but how does the cinema setup sound with only one sub?
Honestly, the smallest sub in the cinema setup will outperform the Sony sub by a lot. It's a Monolith THX 10" and I've measured down to 16hz in-room. It isn't even close.
It's being sold in India for $2600 with sw 5 sub
Ht a9 vs ht a7000 which is better sound stage?
Haven't tried the 7000
the prominance with dedicated ht 😳
That’s it I’m buying 2 more because movies 🍿
Why not get a proper 7.2.4 system, i thought you qlready did.
currently available
Sir thanks for video it makes me understand the difference with dedicate speaker and the Sony system but Sony Mac magic weather for speaker on the phantom technology it means Sony give you idea to compare those two items physically when you look at you are comparing mouse and elephant but that mouse has magic people want to See mouse how heavy 😂
Could be as I am not physically present. Anyways I have fixed on the A9
The real problem i see is aging software issues with these kind of products. I don't see this lasting 10 years. The idea is really good though.
Woww
Don’t think there’s any value to testing with the sound compression turned on. 🤔
FYI I’ve only done the settings on movies, not music. I’ve never even played music on this, just movies.
Sony needs some serious help in the deep bass department. It was totally lacking.
They do pretty good for a sub satt system for ht but when it came to the music demo, it sounded awful... lol! A 500 bucks bookshelf would sound way better and trample all over the Sony sonically but then again the Sony isnt made to do that well.
That was my conclusion as well
Sony sounded better than the dedicated system in the demo lol
Lol. There you go then! Get it! I strongly disagree. Maybe you weren't listening with headphones.
I consider your kids upstairs an upgrade to your binaural 3d audio demo.
Now you can compare the Sony's and your hometheater to actuarl real over head effects. I'm not kidding, I enjoyed it. They should make even more noise next Time. Also, tell someone to knock on your door while you do a binaural demo, wonder how many people will pause the video and say "come in".
🤣🤣🤣 It's funny during binaural demos, not so funny when trying to take measurements
@@joentell yea, I can relate to that 😬
The problem with those UA-cam Atmos/X Demos. youtube doesn't have that tech.
They're binaural demos meaning you only need headphones. The spatial aspects are recorded using mics near the ears.
@@joentell Thanks Joe but I meant was that you see thousands of these Demos when YT doesn't even transmit these codecs. Just like they have 8K demos when YT only has 4K. Our sound systems tell us what it's picking up & my Atmos/X system has never once activated. :) PS I love your YT name. ;}
Sony sounds cleaner in my opinion
I think it would make sense to compare Sony HTA9 with a similar and same priced system. It can not replace a full traditional (expensive) system. One would like to know whether to invest in Sony or similar ( sonos, bose, samsung or traditional 5.1) same price system. If I have budget and place, i will sure go for full traditional setup.
Sonos has much deeper bass
How about surround sound performance? Which one you would prefer for moving and music?
There’s loads of comparisons with the Samsung Q990c with a hair breadth between them, considering you can often pick up the Samsung for half the price of the Sony, price/performance ratio - the Samsung tends to win out
A extremely uneven comparison. The A9 is tested witouth a sub xcompared to a 3 sub system and then later on with auro 3d which the A9 does not natively supports. To add to that he set the A9 to DTS neural X which is a matrix upscaler to use on audio sources with less channels.
It was always tested with a sub. I tested it with native Dolby Atmos content. I don't know where you're drawing your conclusions from, but they are simply incorrect. My issue was not with the immersive effects, I applauded them for that. My issue was with the frequency response and tonality. None of those things you mentioned would change that aspect.
against the sonos arc? What’s your comments?
I like the tonality of the Sonos more, and the app is the best I've tried. It cannot do the spatial/height/surrounds as well as the Sony.
@@joentell So it sounds like you prefer Sonos arc+sub+sat for music and Sony for movies?
If you can keep one system, which would it be?
@@webada I would prefer the Sonos, but it's not a good gauge because I have a dedicated theater for movies. I could easily see how someone who doesn't would prefer the Sony. I also like listening to music and I would give the edge to Sonos due to tonality and bass/treble controls.
Do you think updates can fix tonality ?
@@jdmgsr05 I do. It's just a matter of toning down the treble.
Hopefully Sony will add further tuning / eq controls with a firmware update down the line.
The Sonos arc I felt got better after about a year of updates and once they added the height channel volume.
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sony replaced traditional Surround system,For full dynamic range, i mean low lows and high highs Audio-DRC Must be off
heared with Audeze LCD X
🤩 P r o m o S M!!!
sorry sir I don't think that any much difference in both the system
I decided not to buy Sony after this demo, the sound is not full missing details and bringing some other in front unnecessarily. I will go for a 5.1.2 system with new Marantz Cinema 60
your theatre system is faaar superior. there's no comparison
Sony's good but sounds a little hollow compared to your system
Take 2 subs off and don't have the sonys at a low volume (I caught u turning it up)....the sonys beat ur system
YOU caught me!🤣🤣🤣 Did I say this was a scientific test? You can think it "beat" my system. These were level-matched to the best of my ability in post, and I was changing the volume and both my system and the Sony depending on the content which made level matching a bit difficult. Your comment is pretty funny though.
so what do you want to show here? that a real home cinema is better? or is that a fail because the small system is close to movies? When I consider that my home theater only cost 6,000 but the working time that I needed is calculated at 10,000 over the years, then Sony is the winner. connect and enjoy the price. of course it's not the same, but buyers don't want an ugly living room, they want style with good cinema sound
It sounds to me like you're being a bit defensive here. The point is to give people realistic expectations by comparing it to a much more expensive and complex home theater system. The goal is to let them decide for themselves whether it's worth it to them. Kind of like how you came to the conclusion for yourself. Mission accomplished.
I don’t find much value to this comparison at all. It’s like comparing a Prius to a Audi Q5. They are both vehicles but why?
If this were a more modest comparison where your using a midrange receiver with a 5.1.2 setup, I think then there may be some real comparitive value. A setup like that might be in the ballpark of the cost of the Sony system.
This just doesn’t make sense. I’m watching a lot of comparison videos to obtain some value. None obtained here. Sorry to be so negative but truth.
Night and day difference between systems. Sony HT was like a Bluetooth speaker compared to your system. For what the Sony system cost you could get a far superior 5.1 system. Yet another overpriced convenience system that can't compete with a decent 5.1 system.
Yeah, not really a fair comparison if I were to just go based on price. One of my power amps costs more than the entire system. It would've been better if I could compare it to a 5.1 in the same price range
Not everyone wants to build and wire a 5.1 system.
@@jklok Yeah, I get it. There's a use case for this. I wish they would've given a few more options to adjust the sound. This is not an inexpensive system.
That’s just it. You pay for the convenience.
Agreed the sony is a rip off a 5.1.2 would decimate this system i dont get why people think yhis a good deal that sub alone is pathetic its a terrible deal... i see store keep daying this beats oyher systems worth more money it just isnt true. It may be that its isnt terrible but that doesn't make it great itself.
No match to your system.
Sorry, these two systems can’t be compared…. Apples to Oranges! It’s like comparing a 4 wheeled car to 16 wheeler semi. At leased the HT-A9 is giving you the impression and experience of 12 virtually,, instead of 4 real. It’s also like comparing the virtual world to the real world. “Oh wow! It doesn’t sound like the real world.”. it’s NOT!
What is the price of the Sony system? That's a consideration too. You can get a full 5.1 system around that price. If I had a budget 5.1, that would've been a better comparison. My system is significantly more expensive, so it's not that fair, but I want to give people perspective. I never expected the Sony to outperform my system, but it's interesting to see how close it gets and it which was is it superior/inferior/equal.
Your system actually kills the Sony, but that doesn't make the Sony very nice for the money and effort.
I agree. If the Sony sounded better, that would say a lot about my system! 😁 The point was just to give perspective. I've compared sound bars to bookshelf speakers for the same reason.
@@joentell no doubt. I have a great surround sound system-4 Canton subs, 7 ADAM studio monitors. All calibrated by the principles of small room psychoacoustics and Atmos criteria. It’s badass, but the wife doesn’t want the living room full of speakers anymore. I’m looking for alternatives, and this video sheds a little light on what I’m going to lose. It’s hard to take a step back. Particularly with music. I suppose I could just go through the rest of this existence solo LOL. I get it though: it’s uglier than Lady Gaga in a Meat Dress…
@joentell. SO Cinema/dts n-x you recommend settings?