As a potential patient (hopefully) of yours Mr Gibbons, i am really impressed by your philosophy. How true that you need to know the old school/normal mechanics really well at first. Then only you can deeply relate to the dysfunction of the bio mechanics that the patient presents with. Techniques can be developed in trying to get things back to normalcy based on ACCURATE diagnosis. Thank you and all the very best spreading these basic and profound information for every therapist to work with. As the saying goes- ' rather than giving,teach a man how to fish and you feed him for the rest of his life'.
Great video and explanation, as all your videos in generally are. Beneficial as refreshers and to expand knowledge. Love the simplicity of your in-depth explanations. Not sure what "old school" means, but skipping basics does not work, at least not from what I've seen in my professional practice. Seen way too many people consulting Siri (new school?). Please continue with your anatomy and clinical videos
Dr. Gibbons, thank you SO very much for your instruction! If I had these videos while progressing through my 4 years of OMT training (Canadian program in the early 2000's, all manual Osteopathy) I'd have shed far fewer tears of confusion!! LOL, seriously! Fryette and the 3D aspect of the nature of these mechanics was very tough. I had a long break from doing the work due to my own injuries. Now, you're instructions here are a beneficial re-education, a true gift, thank you so much.🙏
John you are brilliant. A brilliant teacher. I attended the mobilisation course I attended in Oxford (a long drive from Newcastle) and you inspired me to return to Uni to study physiotherapy at the young age of 43. Thank you. You gave me the inspiration to work harder and progress my learning. I have just completed the second year now. Take care and love to you and your family x
I have recently taken it upon myself to embark on the journey of mastering biomechanics and corrective applications. As a Chiropractor from the Colonies 😉 in practice for 10 years, I realize that I have a finite amount of time to really perfect my skills, and that makes what you have created so incredibly helpful! I appreciate your knowledge and expertise, and I hope to be as competent and capable as yourself one day.
just a simple question are these spinal mechanics applicable to normal people as well, or are they present all the time or are only in people with somatic dysfunctions of the spine? ===
I love the video! When you are in neutral and side bending to the left the coupled motion would be rotation to the right opening the right facet joint? When you are flexed or extended side bending left would be coupled motion of rotation to the left once again opening the right facet joint? Thank you! Looking forward to the response
Great Great explanation John. Would you therefore say that most movements in everyday life & sports is type II mechanics and postural sitting at the PC is type I neutral mechanics? And if that’s the case then should we emphasize type II mechanical movement during exercise and type I mechanical positioning during Pilates or sitting 🪑 at PC?
Dr. Gibson, have you gone into the unique workings of the 11 thoracic rotatores, which are highly enervated proprioceptives? What function could those nerves confer to those small rotatores, and by extension, not just to the thoracic spine, but to the lumbar and to the cervical spine, as well. You were in india and perhaps studied some yoga. Did you look into the kundalini three and a half coils, where the rotatores could be critical for those up-going spirals, actually creating the spirals? I think that that’s the only function for those little ones. Would love your response, thank you.
Its all interesting stuff, a lot of the newer studies (even though they are not that new) contradict some of the teachings from Lovett and Fryette but thats ok as one needs to know one type of spinal motion like fryettes and then one can have the ability to utilise, discuss, contradict other concepts within their own clinical setting, regards JG
Hi John! Great video as always! In the book of the osteopath Greenman is written that the lumbar spine in the more extension position, so out of the neutral one, follows type 1 and in flexion follows the type 2. Do you know this difference in the osteopathy literature?
Hi Marco and yes I am aware and Lovett in 1903 says a similar thing, however I am not sure this is actually correct in reality though because if you lean over to one side (extension) then the vertebra naturally want to rotate and side bend to the same side as in Type 2 as per Fryette in 1918. Hope that helps, regards JG
Great explanation as always. Understanding basics, whether classified as old, middle or new is always so very important to be able to move on and understand and “feel” the huge range of problems and suitable modalities that can deal with those problems and not just by rote. Thanks, and the accompanied book is excellent.
I remember doing this on your course John and you explain it so well, its amazin how many people dont know this !!! i know the video will be of great importance to lots of people ... anyone from Physio's to chiro's , sports therpists or even personal trainers need to get onto your courses and get this knowledge to improve there end game, you have made it possible to practice with confidence and a far better understanding of the musculo skeletal system for many people thanks Buddy you have changed my ability's completely and i now have an abundance of useful tools in my tool box
Hllo john ..thnks for the vedio.. I want to ask u is frytees law applicable for normal spine or dysfunctional spine ????? Plz give a little hint how to implicate frytees law in practice ???.
Hi, Fryettes law applies to normal motion of the vertebra as well as dysfunctional...I have a few videos on how it can be used in practice so maybe watch them first...regards JG
@@JohnGibbons ...ok thnks . So we need to maintain neutral mechanics . In example .. If i side bend to right and one of lumbar vertebra is going on same side rotation or that means there is dysfunction becoz in neutral spine the spinous procees should move to same side ??????
If you are in 'neutral' and then side bend to one side then the vertebra should rotate to the opposite side (Type 1), however, if the vertebra rotate to the same time then the spine is in Non-neutal mechanics so it is following a Type 11 dysfunctional pattern. Hope that helps, regards JG
In neutral the sacrum is between 30-45 degrees of nutation and this should be the best position, you can increase the nUtation by increasing the lumbar lordosis even though this is not recommended as the facets are now in a close pack position and this can be a source of patients pain. Hope that helps, regards JG
As a potential patient (hopefully) of yours Mr Gibbons, i am really impressed by your philosophy. How true that you need to know the old school/normal mechanics really well at first. Then only you can deeply relate to the dysfunction of the bio mechanics that the patient presents with. Techniques can be developed in trying to get things back to normalcy based on ACCURATE diagnosis. Thank you and all the very best spreading these basic and profound information for every therapist to work with. As the saying goes- ' rather than giving,teach a man how to fish and you feed him for the rest of his life'.
Great video and explanation, as all your videos in generally are. Beneficial as refreshers and to expand knowledge. Love the simplicity of your in-depth explanations. Not sure what "old school" means, but skipping basics does not work, at least not from what I've seen in my professional practice. Seen way too many people consulting Siri (new school?).
Please continue with your anatomy and clinical videos
Thanks for the reply and pleased you like the videos. regards JG
Dr. Gibbons, thank you SO very much for your instruction! If I had these videos while progressing through my 4 years of OMT training (Canadian program in the early 2000's, all manual Osteopathy) I'd have shed far fewer tears of confusion!!
LOL, seriously! Fryette and the 3D aspect of the nature of these mechanics was very tough. I had a long break from doing the work due to my own injuries. Now, you're instructions here are a beneficial re-education, a true gift, thank you so much.🙏
Very kind of you to say, regards JG
John you are brilliant. A brilliant teacher. I attended the mobilisation course I attended in Oxford (a long drive from Newcastle) and you inspired me to return to Uni to study physiotherapy at the young age of 43. Thank you. You gave me the inspiration to work harder and progress my learning. I have just completed the second year now. Take care and love to you and your family x
Wow, thanks for the lovely comments, regards JG
I have recently taken it upon myself to embark on the journey of mastering biomechanics and corrective applications. As a Chiropractor from the Colonies 😉 in practice for 10 years, I realize that I have a finite amount of time to really perfect my skills, and that makes what you have created so incredibly helpful! I appreciate your knowledge and expertise, and I hope to be as competent and capable as yourself one day.
Thanks for sharing!
Love your videos and this new series of anatomy is well presented. Just like to say thanks to you and the people out there sharing their knowledge. 👌🏼
Hi John, i would be very greatful If you could explain How to use Fryettes mechanical laws to diagnose the lesions
just a simple question are these spinal mechanics applicable to normal people as well, or are they present all the time or are only in people with somatic dysfunctions of the spine?
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I love the video! When you are in neutral and side bending to the left the coupled motion would be rotation to the right opening the right facet joint? When you are flexed or extended side bending left would be coupled motion of rotation to the left once again opening the right facet joint?
Thank you! Looking forward to the response
Hi, yes that is correct, regards JG
Great Great explanation John. Would you therefore say that most movements in everyday life & sports is type II mechanics and postural sitting at the PC is type I neutral mechanics? And if that’s the case then should we emphasize type II mechanical movement during exercise and type I mechanical positioning during Pilates or sitting 🪑 at PC?
Dr. Gibson, have you gone into the unique workings of the 11 thoracic rotatores, which are highly enervated proprioceptives? What function could those nerves confer to those small rotatores, and by extension, not just to the thoracic spine, but to the lumbar and to the cervical spine, as well. You were in india and perhaps studied some yoga. Did you look into the kundalini three and a half coils, where the rotatores could be critical for those up-going spirals, actually creating the spirals? I think that that’s the only function for those little ones.
Would love your response, thank you.
Great video - What are your thoughts on the couple motion findings by White & Panjabi? Do you think this supports or contradicts Fryettes?
Its all interesting stuff, a lot of the newer studies (even though they are not that new) contradict some of the teachings from Lovett and Fryette but thats ok as one needs to know one type of spinal motion like fryettes and then one can have the ability to utilise, discuss, contradict other concepts within their own clinical setting, regards JG
Excellent explanation. This concepts has been hard to understand but the way you explain makes Fryett's and Leavitt's less esoteric.
Thanks for the message, regards JG
Absolutely loved this explanation!! Thank you so much!
Glad it was helpful! Regards JG
This explanation is so well explained. I'm grateful!
Thanks for the message, regards JG
Hi John! Great video as always! In the book of the osteopath Greenman is written that the lumbar spine in the more extension position, so out of the neutral one, follows type 1 and in flexion follows the type 2. Do you know this difference in the osteopathy literature?
Hi Marco and yes I am aware and Lovett in 1903 says a similar thing, however I am not sure this is actually correct in reality though because if you lean over to one side (extension) then the vertebra naturally want to rotate and side bend to the same side as in Type 2 as per Fryette in 1918. Hope that helps, regards JG
Great explanation as always. Understanding basics, whether classified as old, middle or new is always so very important to be able to move on and understand and “feel” the huge range of problems and suitable modalities that can deal with those problems and not just by rote. Thanks, and the accompanied book is excellent.
Thanks for the great comments, regards JG
I remember doing this on your course John and you explain it so well, its amazin how many people dont know this !!! i know the video will be of great importance to lots of people ... anyone from Physio's to chiro's , sports therpists or even personal trainers need to get onto your courses and get this knowledge to improve there end game, you have made it possible to practice with confidence and a far better understanding of the musculo skeletal system for many people thanks Buddy you have changed my ability's completely and i now have an abundance of useful tools in my tool box
david bailey I remember to! 😊
Thank you verry much. I'm learning MT and this video explanes a great problem in my thinking. All the best, Mike
Thanks for the message and pleased you like the video. regards JG
Lost art of truely understanding how we move. Thanks for a great explaination John! Learning from past scholars is how we move into the future.
Dr. Keith Sacco thanks for the great comments! Regards JG
Super
Hllo john ..thnks for the vedio..
I want to ask u is frytees law applicable for normal spine or dysfunctional spine ?????
Plz give a little hint how to implicate frytees law in practice ???.
Hi, Fryettes law applies to normal motion of the vertebra as well as dysfunctional...I have a few videos on how it can be used in practice so maybe watch them first...regards JG
@@JohnGibbons ...ok thnks .
So we need to maintain neutral mechanics .
In example ..
If i side bend to right and one of lumbar vertebra is going on same side rotation or that means there is dysfunction becoz in neutral spine the spinous procees should move to same side ??????
If you are in 'neutral' and then side bend to one side then the vertebra should rotate to the opposite side (Type 1), however, if the vertebra rotate to the same time then the spine is in Non-neutal mechanics so it is following a Type 11 dysfunctional pattern. Hope that helps, regards JG
Come to INDIA 🙏 pls
I have taught in India before and sure I will come again, regards JG
@@JohnGibbons How can we get to know about your workshops in India ?
Kindly Guide 🙏
Excellent
Mr Gibbons
What position of the spine will induce the most rotation,flexed/extended or neutral?
In neutral the sacrum is between 30-45 degrees of nutation and this should be the best position, you can increase the nUtation by increasing the lumbar lordosis even though this is not recommended as the facets are now in a close pack position and this can be a source of patients pain. Hope that helps, regards JG
John Gibbons , can u do videos for examination these laws & how to use this in ttt plz 😊
Great illustrative explaination.
Thanks for the comments, regards JG
i love that. thank you
Thanks for the message, regards JG