Analog Blindtasting Pt.2 - TR-09 vs Behringer RD-9 vs TR-909! Plus a Pirate!

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  • @saibot20194
    @saibot20194 Рік тому +6

    The TR 09 sounds super clean, no white noise in the background, it's probably the winner here.

    • @atommachine
      @atommachine Рік тому +1

      Just picked one up and i prefer it to my old 909 with its flexibility, it is so close and built very well. Use a Audio splitter to the desk and set channels for each instrument , track, loop whatever is a good unit and more.

    • @EchterBonito
      @EchterBonito Рік тому

      Audio Splitter 🤔 brilliant idea!

  • @MaximilianoSchneider
    @MaximilianoSchneider 2 роки тому +8

    Nice comparison. The TR-09 has the option to add a compressor to the kick and snare, so it is likely that your machine had the compression settings pretty high, but you can turn it completely off and it will sound exactly like the TR-909, and it has more "hidden" parameters to tune most of the instruments up and down, and change the gain, release, panning and some other things. The TR-09 it's a pretty powerful emulation of the 909 but some people hate it because it's small and digital, completely ignoring all the extra features packed in that tiny box. Thanks for the video!

    • @johnblissington5265
      @johnblissington5265 3 місяці тому

      i own 3 909's a rd9 a tr09 which is fiddly to use but if i want a quick loop making i use it and i own the tr8 which the black and green is horrid but it works the rd9 is good for the money who has £5000 for a battered tr 909.

  • @streetlyrecords2385
    @streetlyrecords2385 3 роки тому +3

    Good one guys ! Did you checkwd Artruria drum impact? What do you think ?

  • @britzman9905
    @britzman9905 3 роки тому +7

    the tr09 sounded like it had more swing on it than the others? great video. made me laugh

  • @GottfriedLamprecht
    @GottfriedLamprecht 3 роки тому +2

    cool! I am looking forward to a future episode in the next couple of weeks!

  • @Pulsecode303
    @Pulsecode303 3 роки тому +2

    Sehr schönes Video! Was die Kompression der Bassdrum des TR-09 betrifft, können Sie diese ausschalten und der Rimshot und andere Instrumente können über ein Menü nach Belieben gestimmt werden. ich weiß nicht ob du das schon gemacht hast?

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  3 роки тому +1

      Ah! Danke für den Tipp! Dann lag ich mit meiner Vermutung ja nicht ganz verkehrt. 🍀

  • @wolfgangfrase
    @wolfgangfrase 3 роки тому +2

    Klasse Video mit prominentem Cameo!!! Einer meiner absoluten Lieblingsfilme: Brust oder Keule! Leider reicht mein Französisch nicht für ein Anschauen im Original! Aber die Schlüsselszene, wo er den Wein anhand der Farbe und Dauer (!) des Absinkens der Schwebstoffe ermittelt! Kann man den Jahrgang des Synths auch am Anschlagverhalten der Tasten erkennen?

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  3 роки тому

      Absolut! Mit etwas Übung und einem Hauch Talent ist auch das sicher möglich! 😌

  • @jyonda
    @jyonda 3 роки тому +2

    Very useful video, thank you for your efforts. Any thoughts on the Roland Tr6s/Tr8s 909 sounds?

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  3 роки тому +1

      It remains a matter of personal taste and workflow. We personally don‘t really catch up with the new Roland stuff. But of course, you can also produce with it on a professional level. Stefan also has a TR-8s in his studio and uses it frequently.

  • @NondoPondo
    @NondoPondo Рік тому +3

    Let's do a shoot out between all known 909 VSTs, with a TR-909 please. lol

  • @Ponnybit
    @Ponnybit 3 роки тому +2

    thank you for the vid!!

  • @Dvd7111
    @Dvd7111 2 роки тому +1

    Wondering when you compare 3 same drummachines but probably the same sound or not?

  • @marianochiappe2427
    @marianochiappe2427 8 днів тому +1

    Awesome comparison!
    The original 909 has older components that can affect some aspects of it sound, even 2 909 won't sound the same and there was 2 revisions of it with different capacitors shaping the filtering of some sounds.
    RD9 does not have the white noise
    Tr09=garbage, not for being digital, because all the things you name it, (Roland shame on you)
    Great channel!
    Cheers

  • @atommachine
    @atommachine 3 роки тому +1

    Such a great upload very funny. 909 always sits in its smokers chair with all it's wisdom and mellowness bless it.

  • @Tsumios
    @Tsumios 2 роки тому +1

    you done it excellent :) and thank you, you helped me to decide which one `i will take :)

  • @ACIDGREENTECHNO
    @ACIDGREENTECHNO 2 роки тому +1

    macht doch bitte mal tr-09 vs tr8s

  • @KazmaHD
    @KazmaHD 3 роки тому

    4:38 the RD-9 has a ground loop or something else effecting the audio OUT ): its like this for all the tests, a high pitch hiss

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for your comment. But on 4:38 I hear the 909 Kick. Actually during those recordings we had a lot more to fight with noise on the TR-909 mains. On the other hand there is a very low noise hiss on the clap of the RD-9. A bit like a spring reverb in the tail of the sound. I think we made a remark about this in the first video.

  • @dohe3395
    @dohe3395 3 роки тому +2

    Niiiiice !!! Ich feier immer wieder mit EUCH 🥳

  • @phonopollution
    @phonopollution 3 роки тому +3

    Hi, ich mag das Format, das ist, wie wenn ich mit meinen Kumpels rumblödle, weiter so 👍🏻- also ich finds unterhaltsam, auch der Trip zur Superbooth

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  3 роки тому

      Freut uns, dass es genauso ankommt! 👍

  • @michaelpierce3264
    @michaelpierce3264 3 роки тому

    hi the boutique has a built inn compressor Coulter it had being left on on the kick drum?

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  3 роки тому

      Yeah! I also think that it might be my mistake! As far as, I'm not used to have them built in! 😄

  • @NondoPondo
    @NondoPondo Рік тому +3

    If you cannot afford a TR-909, just get some samples and load the to your Octatrack. lol

  • @RaquelFoster
    @RaquelFoster Рік тому +1

    I'm not quite as grumpy as Stefan, but the TR-09 still drives me crazy. The Micro-B power connector is ridiculous. And it's a drum machine FFS. It would be better to remove MIDI than to remove the individual outputs. At least you can get one individual output. You can pan the kick left and pan every other instrument right. But you can do that with the TR-6S, so you might as well use a TR-6S.
    The best feature of the TR-08 and TR-09 is the trigger output which has its own track. Then you can use an MBase11 for your kick and you don't have to worry about it being digital or not having a separate kick output.
    I don't mind using digital synths, but on something you want to compress and overdrive like a kick, that's when you can really tell the difference with analog. Even an RD-9 sounds great going through old guitar pedals. It's magical when you find sweet spots in an analog FX chain with an analog kick or bass mono synth.

    • @atommachine
      @atommachine Рік тому +1

      Its design was for Studio LAPTOP hook up and more flexibility, it is a dark horse unit IMO.

  • @lownrgy
    @lownrgy 3 роки тому +1

    Did you use TR-909 own sequencer or midi, the groove is out of place

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  3 роки тому

      Its all running on internal sequencers. Except the VST of course.

  • @wackerburg
    @wackerburg 3 роки тому +3

    Nothing sounds like the original. When you want to save money and still want a realistic 909-ish machine, I'd go with either the Steda SR-909 or the RE-909 made by DinSync. Both fabulous projects imho. #StedaSR909 #DinSyncRE909 #TR909

    • @Marnavi74
      @Marnavi74 2 роки тому

      you're right, it doesn't sound the same, it sounds even better

    • @Marnavi74
      @Marnavi74 2 роки тому +1

      when you want to save money you go with rd 9 without any doubt

    • @wackerburg
      @wackerburg 2 роки тому

      @@Marnavi74 I put sound first. Money comes and goes (:

  • @njdpdv
    @njdpdv 3 роки тому +1

    🔥EPIC🔥

  • @Producer4Realz
    @Producer4Realz Рік тому +2

    I've got all 3 and the Tr09 in your test was propably high frequency filtered because your friend hate it
    No way its sounds like there's no life...
    Come on man...😂
    The TR-09 is the closest to the Tr909 but has different options added. The Behringer rd909 is awesome but a little different.
    Take the compression and the freq shelving down and you'll get a real comparison

  • @LoveMeBack
    @LoveMeBack 3 роки тому +2

    Audio realism all the way.

  • @anthonyellis5517
    @anthonyellis5517 Рік тому +2

    The pirate should had been another tr909! Because no 2 sound exactly the same based on the circuitry and components, just a small fact.

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  Рік тому +1

      That‘s true! How would two different RD-9 sound? 🤔

    • @anthonyellis5517
      @anthonyellis5517 11 місяців тому

      @@winesynthsthat’s a very good question, I guess we won’t know for about other 30+ years but by then none of us would care anymore 😂 anyway I love your channel and it’s honesty I subscribed ❤

  • @NondoPondo
    @NondoPondo Рік тому +1

    OMG... what's up with Addidas? lol

  • @mickwiese3819
    @mickwiese3819 3 роки тому +2

    Hatte selbst 10 Jahre das Original und kurz die kleine Roland Kiste. Ne 909 gefällt mir immer noch am Besten, da das Verhalten der Hüllkurven sehr homogen klingt. Trotzdem würde ich heute zur RD-09 greifen

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  3 роки тому

      Das ist eine gute Zusammenfassung! 👍

  • @user-gq6sf4si6j
    @user-gq6sf4si6j Рік тому +1

    TR 909 hands down the champion

  • @NondoPondo
    @NondoPondo Рік тому +1

    With just the Clap I can tell you the really 909. lol

  • @RaffRobinson
    @RaffRobinson Рік тому +1

    The tr09 sound so muddy…to much 40/60 hertz in my ears, it’s really anoying

  • @mirrle
    @mirrle 7 місяців тому +1

    Schöner vergleich und das dinglish ist etwas schräg auf den Ohren 😅

  • @derekholland3328
    @derekholland3328 Рік тому +1

    pointless exercise
    anything can be sampled where you wouldnt know the difference
    sample it, its 2023 not 1980

  • @noir4356
    @noir4356 Рік тому +4

    I actually like the TR-09. And I like it more than the Behringer 😛

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  Рік тому

      I never said, that people with a strange taste did not exist! 😁 But if you feel good with it and produce the sound you like, everything is fine! 🤖

  • @NondoPondo
    @NondoPondo Рік тому +1

    I don't live analogue modeling. It does not sound as good. VSTs sound better. lmao

  • @davespicer2143
    @davespicer2143 Рік тому +1

    Damn, you have to feel sorry for anybody that spent money on a TR-09. Sounds afwul. Roland should hang their heads in shame with that one. Great video though!

    • @savanaviolenta
      @savanaviolenta Рік тому

      Said no one ever

    • @davespicer2143
      @davespicer2143 Рік тому

      @@savanaviolenta aside from where I said it above yeah? 😂

    • @atommachine
      @atommachine Рік тому

      I don't think they should , its a great bit of Studio tech.