IT'S ALL TOO MUCH! - BOB DYLAN THE 1974 LIVE RECORDINGS 27 CD BOX SET
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As a Van Der Graff Generator fan , I had to get the 17 cds , 3 Blue rays Box set. It was worth it with a Hard Back Book , Of course it was a Christmas special
Yes Larry..I want this set and all 27 discs..DONT MAKE ME MAD LARRY🤬🤬🤬❤
You're Dylan's biggest fan, in Trenton Ontario!!
Pre-ordered it already. At that price point it is a no brainer.
A no-brainer for a no-brainer.
These box sets from SONY are only being released to protect copyright. They are not intended for casual fans. In Fact, they wouldn't care if they sold none of them. They are released only for legal reasons.I personally am very excited for this release & have all ready pre-ordered it. I loved the 1966 36 CD box set that was released in in 2016 & I'm look forward to the upcoming copyright protection release boxes coming from Dylan in 1975, 1976, etc. Don't mess with Dylan fans, most of us are old & cranky 🤣😂
For the price I'll definitely buy it, but I'm a nut and a Dylan completist.
I think I will be buying this Dylan set as I love this period, and Dylan's voice at this time... Playing with The Band was excellent
Too much is too much Larry,the only way I would want this even if it was my favorite artist is if every CD had different songs on it but that's not the case here,you would have to be a total fanatic to purchase this. Bob
I'll probably wait for the 54 lp vinyl boxset.
lol
First off, I adore "Lay, Lady, Lay." It's one of my favorite songs from that era. That being said, I wouldn't have this set, even as a gift. Led Zeppelin is my all-time favorite band and I have yet to listen to The Song Remains the Same (saw the movie, though).
Shame on you...but make sure it's the orginal when you get round to it, the reissue was awful.
If it was Pink Floyd I’d jump at it. I’ve seen the Floyd a number of times and the their music played live is on another level. It would be a no brainer for me…regards 🎸
I basically agree. And yet, I will be buying this. The pre-order price in Tower Records in Ireland is €115; which seems quite fair. However, much as I love The Stones, Neil Young and a few others, Dylan is the only artist that I'd bother with something like this.
Good taste.
I find the price to be reasonable for 27 disks. I agree with you a real good double CD would be enough for me. What is missing is the Band's performances ...
Back in 2000, Pearl Jam released all of their shows from that tour on physical CD's (a total of 72 shows if I remember). Because I'm a Super Fan of this band, I bought all of these CD's and cherish them in my collection all these years later. As for listening to all of these shows, I maybe gave each show ONE listen......great topic and great video Larry!
Hey Larry good to see you keep on keeping as they say. As much as I respect your opinion and stipulate that it is the opinion of the masses, I have to dissent. I’ve steadfastly held to the opinion that at the very least The Beatles should be offering an upstream tier of the archive sets they’ve been issuing which would contain the balance of the multi track tapes without edits for that particular album. Apple won’t do this of course but I’d splash out for a complete set of session tapes of The Beatles or several other bands I’m passionate about.
I agree with you on this Larry! These huge box sets are geared towards the people who have to get everything by a certain artist Buying 27 discs of a tour with overlapping songs is only for the diehards
Very polite! I would think of another word d***h***s (and I've bought it).
Larry I know that Springsteen and Pearl Jam release individual concerts and I think that’s better. You can buy a copy of the concert that you attended.
I totally agree with you on this 👍xx.
There’s a dead like thing. Every show is unique..these days anyway.
Who possibly has the time to listen to this stuff. Will you listen to it again? You'll have to hurry because there will be another 20 disc live set from some other band or another coming along soon.
I basically agree with you, but Dylan is not "some band or another" - although this tour with the Band is probably where he's closest to that.
@@99tonnes I meant some other band, not Dylan, because many bands are putting out box sets. I thought my point was perfectly clear.
Also my buddy once got a huge massive box set from The Grateful Dead and I asked him how he liked it..he said that’s one of the biggest door stops I ever bought.😂
Well. If it was from the 78 bib dylan tour i would in an instant!!!!!!
Listening to a few Dylan songs at a time is enough for me. 27 discs? No thanks.
I’m thinking of buying that 27 disc Dylan box set for Glen, not forgetting….it’s the thought that counts.
Dang it, then I will be his second best friend again!
@@TheCanadianStudmuffin I can’t afford the postage, so I’m just sending him the thought, and that’s what really counts.
I beleive the Dylan camp are releasing a best of with the best version of every song played on the tour, which, sign me up. 27 disc of every song played on the tour, I'm with you, no way.
I’m a fan of Dylan but geez.. I would rather just have a 2 disc package of this like maybe the best of all the disc and highlight some rarities.
To quote George Harrison, "it's all too much".
The Dylan box is a copyright dump to keep all the material copyrighted (after 50 years the copyright expires). At least the price is reasonable. A similar set was released for the 1966 tour. I am interested in hearing some of the earlier shows on the tour which are quite different from the official live 1974 Before the Flood release. But even as a big Dylan fan, I don't know if I'd ever listen to the whole thing.
I would rather buy a studio albums box set .
I've never cared much for live material, so the thought of buying one of these is beyond me. The most expansive set I own is the 2011 Smile Sessions box. The mountain of studio tracks and demos are actually valuable to own and listen to as a fan, and even then it was a tight 6CD set
I heard/read somewhere that in Europe if music is not physically issued after 50 years, it becomes public domain. If true, I believe this is being done for that reason alone. Dylan sold all or part of his catalogue, correct? The owners of his catalogue don't want to lose (exclusive) publishing rights. I feel this is being done with Neil Young as well. They are CONSTANTLY issuing CDs of Neil's performances/recordings from the early 70s.
Parallels to be drawn with Pink Floyd, of which there are, from a variety of labels (neither Harvest nor EMI), numerous, newly-issued, live recordings of shows circa 1970-1974. From a band once fiercely protective of its brand and image rights, this is surprising.
I must agree, been following old Bob since 1965, but I haven't indulged in previous sets similar to this and will not buy this one, although as you said, Larry, this one is actually reasonably priced unlike say the recently released Complete Live At Budokan. Anyway, thanks for the high-quality entertainment.
I agree Larry. 27 CDs? Only for the diehards. But a lot of Bobs fans are lining up for it, I'm sure. It is a great price. I could handle a 3-cd pkg. I'm sure a lot of good stuff is on there. ☮
Depends on the artist if it was Neil Young or CSN Y box set most definitely or for example I bought the super deluxe Blu-ray CD box set of Eric clapton's 24 nights shows in London a couple years ago because those were the complete shows and the initial 24 nights release was not complete
It’s not bad value for the material you get. But in my opinion it’s too much. A few years ago I bought the complete live 1966 recordings. I’m glad to have it (and enjoyed it at the time) but I haven’t played it all that much since then. I’d rather have a curated ‘best of’ of the shows. There is a Third Man Vault release featuring around 25 of the unreleased recordings. It’s quite pricey (£80), but it might be worth it. Thanks, Larry. Keep the videos coming. I’ve been following you since you reviewed Yoko Ono’s albums a few years back.
It all depends! I might do it for TOOL, but they don't have that much stuff!
this is what makes music the best, I mean I wouldn't spend a nickel on the entire TOOL catalogue, but I would consider buying this. On second thought, if I were given the opportunity to buy the entire Tool catalogue for a nickel, I would then flip it for whatever the market would bear. Cheers!
Zappa is one artist I wouldn’t mind buying a huge box of live stuff from. The Roxy Performances box was 7 or 8 CDs but that’s not even as much as these other huge ones. So really just Zappa for me because yeah I’d also just prefer something more concise most of the time
I impulse bought his Live At Budokan boxed set. Nice package (that's what she said), replica programs and other stuff. But even with a lot fewer cds than this it was too much in retrospect, regretting it.
Sorry to hear that - I bought it and really like it. Of course (1) Blackbushe 1-day festival UK from the same tour was my first ever concert and (2) even so I've only listened to the whole thing once, but seriously for me that's an underrated phase - much better than the '74 tour with the Band, for instance, which from what I've heard had no subtlety or personality, just generic stadium rock style.
There are all sorts of factors. The release is to maintain copyright, which would fall into the public domain if not released within 50 years (or something). Another thing is Dylan recently - couple of years ago - sold the rights in his music to someone or other, like several big names have over the past few years. He gets, maybe USD300 million, they get to milk his catalogue. On the consumer side, well, it's a limited edition, many of his older fans have money and time on their hands and would hate to miss out on some Dylan magic - you know, in case there is any. I'm one of those. I heard about this on a YT video a few months ago and *immediately preordered it* even though the few tracks I've heard from 'Before the Flood', the album released from the tour, I thought were trashy pub/stadium-rock versions. Not only that, someone mentioned on the YT video that Dylan had done this before, in 2016, releasing all the known recordings from his 1966 tour (a much more interesting tour, by the way). So then, shocked I had never heard about this, I went to eBay and bought that too. So far I've listened to about half of its 36 (but short) CDs, which for the most part repeat the exact same playlist every show. It's a mixed experience: you certainly get sick of the songs in a general way; on the other hand, if you're a real Bobophile that appreciates the nuance of his voice and phrasing, there are a lot of moments of pleasure. Of course you don't need any of it, and of course I will probably die before I hear most of those CDs a second time. But the same goes for everything (mutatis mutandis of course). It's down to what you enjoy, and how concerned you are that Bob's descendancy is well provided for. I care a lot. PS the recent Live at Budokan set, also available in several formats such that you need to buy at least two of them if you really love Bob's grandkids, is excellent!
If my favorite band , The Cure did a set like the Dylan one at the same price point from 1981 I would get it. They did different sets nightly & would do improvisational versions of several songs nightly. The affordability a definite factor.
Tho I’d love to hear how his voice holds up or evolves - out on the road after having been off so long - but NO, it’s another time-contingent release to retain the copyrights in Europe. I love Dylan but no, I don’t have time to be a ‘completist’ to that extent.
Good day Larry and my oh my - that Dylan box set a sure looks complete. It might take months to listen to everything. I do love The Band but like you noted it may just be too much. Take care and cheers.
Brian
I guess when you look at this in comparison to the cost of John Lennon's Mind Games Ultimate Box set, at 27 discs this is good value at that price, but I won't be going for this, even though I'm a huge Dylan fan. I have a CD box of Beatles live recordings from their summer US Tours from both 64 and 65, and basically the set lists are the same. I will play these but usually only one out of the three. They are excellent recordings but you can only hear Long Tall Sally so many times in one go....
It would be too much for me. Besides I’m not a big fan of live shows for the most part, anyway.💁🏻♀️
I wish this Dylan set was more curated and only 6 discs of highlights. That’s enough and would happily pay for a nice little box of that. In the UK, the Dylan box isn’t crazy expensive but it is far too big. Should just be download-only.
Depends on the artist and albums. I would love to have 27CDs of Rubber Soul and Revolver sessions, if there were that much material in the vaults, for example.
Just barebones packaging, a basic softcover booklet with recording information will do - no need lavish photos, essays etc. That said, I wouldn't want 83 CDs of Complete Get Back sessions (which is available b00tleg) ...now that is way too much.
I am a huge Dylan fan but very unlikely I will ever listen to all of this lol
No way will i buy this set, although i am a big fan of Bob Dylan and have about 80 CDs of him. The only band i collect and have bought several monster live sets is Grateful Dead. They always vary their set list, and most tracks are vehicles of improvisation which never sound alike. Three shows on three consecutive days, 10 hours of music, and not one song is played twice.
i thought about buying the Camel: Air Born: The MCA & Decca Years 1973 - 1984 boxset (27 CDs, 5 Blu-ray Discs ) for 190 EUR (=283 CAD), but i have the time to listen to it, not the money and not the place too.
In Europe the box is much cheaper! That's weird.
To hear the same concert in different cities over and over again? Doesn't make sense to me, even if I had the money.
431?! I don't think I have that long to live. It seems since the resurge of vinyl, companies are cleaning house releasing everything since 1AD.( I get catalogs so i see more than i ever order or need). The Fab4 my fave band, but i yawn at 'extras, especially demos😴
I think the Allman Brothers did a good job with The Fox Box, three shows from the Fox Theater, resulting in roughly 8.5 hours of music (just one duplicate song). That's okay, something you can manage on a Sunday, or you listen to each night on a different day. It's equivalent to 8 to 10 regular albums. But I'm really not sure, if I would buy 27 discs even at that price, specially with a lot of repeats.
It will probably be a Led Zeppelin box set or a Beatles Box set this is just too much
I love Dylan and I love The Band. But this is just too much material and too pricey for me. A 5 disc set of highlights would be more than enough for me.
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Thanks Eric!
I may buy this Dylan box, because as far as I know Dylan never played the same show twice, and every song is played slightly differently than the previous performances of the song. But I don't have that money, so I really can't buy it. For the Yes box you featured, it's a no for me.
They excised the songs that featured the Band. It's not even a faithful recreation of the tour.
Well, that's something at least! I know they're Canadian and all (respect to our host) but I never got the band, all that tedious rootsy beardy tosh. I saw the Last Waltz as a kid and the Band were the worst thing on it.
I'm going to skip this purchase and spend those funds to see Dylan live with Willie Nelson and Mellencamp later this summer.
I'm not a huge fan of live albums, so no. For almost everyone, I just prefer the regular studio records.
I passed on that Yes box set, because it was almost fully made from audience recordings. Only 4 are from pro-recorded shows. And none of them appear to be taken directly off the multitrack recordings. That Bob Dylan and The Band "The 1974 Live Recordings" box set is a different proposition. About a third of the shows are newly mixed, directly off the multitrack tapes. And all of the rest are still soundboard recordings. It depends on how big of a fan you are, and how cheap you can find the box set. I think Bob Dylan is one of the greatest recording artists of all time. And The Band, one of the all time best groups. With a third of the shows taken directly off the multitrack tapes, and since I found it for under $150 CAN total, this is a no-brainer for me. The multitracked shows are the big draw for me. It's just too bad that none of The Band's separate concert sets are included.
This is a 50-year copyright dump, hence the comparatively low price. I won't be buying it, but I imagine well-heeled completists will welcome it.
How about the Grateful Deads 30 Trips Around The Sun cd box set with 80 discs!?
That's 30 too many trips around the sun for me. :D
@@TheCanadianStudmuffin That would be a more logical purchase as it spanned 30 years with very different set-lists and players. This Dylan Box is all 1974. Less variation. 3 or 4 shows would likely be more than enough from 1974.
I totally understand your opinion here but Ive got the box "moonbeans and fairytailes" by Jimi Hendrix exp from 1966/1967 with 22 cd and now I can sell it to you for 400 dollars maybe - a win/win situation.....
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Hi, I'm fed up with boxes, deluxe and super deluxe, just stick to the original albums, it's better 27 CD's of different artists. I'm a Dylan fan but i wouldn't listen to more than 5 or 6 of those
If this sort of thing is reasonably priced, then I might buy something like this for tours and artists I’m particularly interested in. Say if this was all 1985 tour R.E.M. shows, I would have totally bought this back when I was a bigger fan. But that’s because their set lists varied a lot then and there was a lot of stories told prior to different songs. If it’s a band that played the same show with zero differences over and over, hell no! For me Bob doesn’t interact with the audience much, so the setlists and playing needs to be the focus.
I used to collect bootleg tapes from different tours for different bands. And you learn say you really like early 70s Stones shows but not say the Black and Blue tour that Love You Live is from. So I’m fine with some complete box for a really good tour for some major band. I mean, for bands I liked back in the day I would see three or four shows in a row, so it’s like that. But there are bands that nothing changes at all if you see two shows in a row, like say The B-52s. But several David Bowie shows in a row was a great memory for me.
And I’d never listen to it all in a row! But maybe several shows here and there, sure.
In the US the Dylan set is $107 . Not sure how it got to 200 in Canada
Always more in Canada ..
@@TheCanadianStudmuffin yah I know but conversion it would be 150 at the most
Larry I like Dylan a lot and have seen him many times but this is too much . I grew up in Philadelphia so I would only be interested in the Philly shows . I didn’t see him in 1974 , I was a teenager and didn’t have much money 😊
Amazon still sometimes jacks up the price but maybe by the time of the release it will be lower.
Ummmm, would any fan want 30 hours of live material by any band or performer ? If they did what would they pay for it ? The Grateful Dead were the cheer leaders in such excess of quantity when they encouraged fans to tape their live performances and the fans began to 'trade' them with each other; copy a tape of one show to swap for a show that they had not got. The Dead also encouraged fans to support Deadheads in prison with tapes for the imprisoned Deadhead to listen to. This between 1970 and 1991, before CDs became the norm. Cassettes were cheap and the music seemed to be free. The band sold itself to the fans for them being like Otis Redding in one respect; they could never play the same song twice the same way. Each performance was a variant of the many. Record companies selling whole tours of historic acts where the variants of songs on long tours are few and hard to find, and the price of good remastering is prohibitive for most fans.... ....won't work for many artists.
Nope lol I would never listen to all of the content. Just collect dust on the shelf easily
Hi Larry I am not a fan of box sets it is way to much. The Bob Dylan and the Band before the flood is definitely a good live album but the original double album is plenty it even a little long to me. I have been a fan of Bob and the Band for many years.