ERP Software: The End of Enterprise Technology As We Know It

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  • Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
  • ERP software has been dying a slow death for the past few decades, but is it time for the end of ERP software as we know it? With all of the talk around ERP software potentially meeting its death, questions loom about why ERP may be going away and what that means for the future of enterprise technology. In this video I’ll talk about those questions and take a look at various answers to them.
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  • @mustafabayulgen4357
    @mustafabayulgen4357 Рік тому +58

    Very good analysis Eric. However I wouldn't call this a "death". I'd probably call it an "evolution" of ERP systems. From my experience of 20 plus years I also believe that people and managers in organizations also need to "evolve" so that they can use their ERP systems to their near full potential before resorting to solutions outside of their existing ERPs. My experience has shown me over and over again that most companies don't even come close to using 50% of their ERP systems' potential.

    • @Miguel_Thorpe
      @Miguel_Thorpe Рік тому

      ObiusERP is a Decentralized ERP solution where every transaction is transacted on Constellation’s Hypergraph which is a super distributed ledger technology. This allows for AI to take complex data types & utilize meta data to better the ERP solution & experience, applying Web3 incentives for consumers as well. Not only this but ObiusERP is a member of the Digital Pound Foundation for CBDC’s & will offer their own POS system where businesses can run all financial transactions (including accounting) on distributed ledger technology, which makes their business much more efficient than what any other ERP solution offers. This will be the death of legacy ERP solutions.

    • @theconsultant8732
      @theconsultant8732 Рік тому +1

      Tend to agree with you Mustafa. On another note, a lot of the companies who have been using ERP over the years aren't interested in re-inventing the wheel. I also believe that we are getting better at integrations.
      I still see ERP being the foundation that companies build upon.

  • @tabansteintv
    @tabansteintv Рік тому +118

    I don't believe ERP in general is dying or going away. I think companies like SAP and Microsoft are going to be the ones to evolve and survive. There will always be a market for all types of platforms and systems.

    • @tommyhili6805
      @tommyhili6805 Рік тому +1

      🔮

    • @satyam1529
      @satyam1529 Рік тому +2

      Right. They'll come with some new kind of upgrade in their ERP system with new technologies and methods.

    • @hectorpalacios5527
      @hectorpalacios5527 Рік тому +1

      but they will erode either way, will need to change. The concept of platform is way to attractive for integration to specialized software.

    • @Miguel_Thorpe
      @Miguel_Thorpe Рік тому +3

      ObiusERP is a Decentralized ERP solution where every transaction is transacted on Constellation’s Hypergraph which is a super distributed ledger technology. This allows for AI to take complex data types & utilize meta data to better the ERP solution & experience, applying Web3 incentives for consumers as well. Not only this but ObiusERP is a member of the Digital Pound Foundation for CBDC’s & will offer their own POS system where businesses can run all financial transactions (including accounting) on distributed ledger technology, which makes their business much more efficient than what any other ERP solution offers. This will be the death of legacy ERP solutions.

    • @yusniermatosarias8695
      @yusniermatosarias8695 Рік тому +1

      @@Miguel_Thorpe Wha's the real value of a decentraliced ERP? What do users/clients/companies get from this approach?

  • @sridharannarasimhan4916
    @sridharannarasimhan4916 Рік тому +13

    ERP is a concept and the software solutions currently available are inadequate. It doesn't mean erp software is dying. As long as there is an enterprise, it will have resources and these resources will have to be planned. This concept cannot die. But the type of software do change. I feel the term erp itself should now be changed to erpmc, ie enterprise resource planning,management and control. It should not end at planning.

  • @____2080_____
    @____2080_____ Рік тому +1

    The blooper reels that Eric and everyone else in this field have might be legendary. I can deeply empathize, having once took a week to shoot an entire video of 15 minutes.

  • @carlwheeler3403
    @carlwheeler3403 Рік тому +10

    I have found after 26 years working in the ERP space that a fragmented system deploying 'Best of Breed' applications is far more expensive to both deploy and maintain. The first consideration is technology level of each of the fragmented applications, they are not all the same and not all play well together. Secondly is installing patches and upgrades to each BOB application, the changes can ripple through the other BOB applications, it's like herding cats. ERP systems are here to stay, they will just morph. Just my 2 cents.

    • @Miguel_Thorpe
      @Miguel_Thorpe Рік тому

      ObiusERP is a Decentralized ERP solution where every transaction is transacted on Constellation’s Hypergraph which is a super distributed ledger technology. This allows for AI to take complex data types & utilize meta data to better the ERP solution & experience, applying Web3 incentives for consumers as well. Not only this but ObiusERP is a member of the Digital Pound Foundation for CBDC’s & will offer their own POS system where businesses can run all financial transactions (including accounting) on distributed ledger technology, which makes their business much more efficient than what any other ERP solution offers. This will be the death of legacy ERP solutions.

  • @achyutakrishna
    @achyutakrishna Рік тому

    Very good analysis. Keep adding more content. Thanks for your time 🙏🏽.

  • @beppino21
    @beppino21 Рік тому +31

    Analysis that I fully agree with.
    Personally, I have 30 years of experience in international ERP implementations.
    I have produced solutions to make these softwares flexible and we have had great commercial success with "all-in-one" solutions. But the truth is that we have always been opposed first of all directly by the ERP producer because in contrast with their real goal: to sell licenses and protect a so-called "Eco system" which is being reduced only to a sales network but which has no realization skills and regularly fails projects.
    With the speed of change in today's business models, the ecosystem approach created by large software vendors produces much more failures than successes.
    Thanks again, best regards.

    • @laurynasmerkelis2370
      @laurynasmerkelis2370 Рік тому +2

      Agree. "Eco-system" protection it a red tape. On the point of success/failure balance - also agree, but I don't think it is to do with speed of change directly, it is a lot more to do with impatience of end consumers ('I want it now') and people who deliver work ('I want to be done with this and move on') and this does cause a lot of unsuccessful implementations.
      With change of software, mentality of sales and delivery, clients and providers has to change for it to succeed.

    • @Miguel_Thorpe
      @Miguel_Thorpe Рік тому

      ObiusERP is a Decentralized ERP solution where every transaction is transacted on Constellation’s Hypergraph which is a super distributed ledger technology. This allows for AI to take complex data types & utilize meta data to better the ERP solution & experience, applying Web3 incentives for consumers as well. Not only this but ObiusERP is a member of the Digital Pound Foundation for CBDC’s & will offer their own POS system where businesses can run all financial transactions (including accounting) on distributed ledger technology, which makes their business much more efficient than what any other ERP solution offers. This will be the death of legacy ERP solutions.

  • @Phemieny7
    @Phemieny7 Рік тому +8

    Hello Eric, I agree with all the point you mentioned here, I think evolving to a cloud environments is one hell step managers are really scared to take and moreover the monolithic architecture method of developing an ERP should be changed into a micro service architecture.
    We do use odoo (open source) to develop ERP solution for our clients because it gives us that flexibility to add new module that fits in to our clients request but one thing I also noticed is that managers wants a better UI for there ERP system, something a full ERP system is unlikely to give you compare to systems like workforce or a team management (trello /Monday). In all ERP is not going to die out, all it needs is for managers to start looking out more for innovative ways and flexibility.

    • @voicevy3210
      @voicevy3210 Рік тому

      well said, regarding better UI, we offered people with mobile applications with only a few key information points that they can see on mobile. which solved most of their pain points of navigation in the web site of ERP.

  • @larryblode5571
    @larryblode5571 Рік тому +2

    I wish to send this to a few of my bigger clients who think that having a sole vendor will provide added flexibility. Sometimes I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall explaining that Best of Breed is the way forward. Interoperability issues are a thing of the past. Great presentations

    • @erickimberling
      @erickimberling  Рік тому

      Thank you for sharing this with your clients, Larry! Hope you are doing well.

  • @serenityedits1857
    @serenityedits1857 7 місяців тому +2

    just learning about ERP through your videos

  • @reyesdelremate2391
    @reyesdelremate2391 Рік тому +6

    A little too outdated video for an expert: "SAP has gone out and bought Ariba and Success Factors...", that was 10+ yrs ago. "Microsoft has gone and bought Navision and Axapta...", that was 20+yrs ago. This is really weird and also you're talking about lack of integration of products that never meant to be integrated (like NAV and AX). What is happening in reality is that companies like Microsoft are moving towards a broad and complete set of products that can work integrated (Microsoft ERP+CRM+M365 for example), and also recently added another layer of integrated middle products like Power Apps and/or Power Automate or CDS, that along with their ERP's offerings, will give something to everyone (low code, flexibility to create and adapt your "rigid" ERP, etc). And no, ERP's are not dying (yet) but evolving.

    • @richardparker1274
      @richardparker1274 Рік тому

      Need to be careful calling outdated as Isn’t CDS now dataverse? I think the principles discussed are valid.

    • @reyesdelremate2391
      @reyesdelremate2391 Рік тому +1

      @@richardparker1274 Hi. Called the video outdated for the reasons I already explained: talking about things that happened 20+ yrs ago to justify their conclusions are not really what I would call "valid". Sure, some of those ERP's got lost in their success and had some troubles trying to work/move through time, but their efforts to adapt and consolidate solutions that can work as a whole or individually are real and have been going on for a lot of years now. If I would've seen this video in 2008 I would totally agree with it. And yes, CDS is now called Dataverse but I am not using it to reason a complete video about it so I don't see your point.

  • @510z2
    @510z2 Рік тому +5

    Business Central’s jump to the cloud with a revamped web based language is a good stride. Sure legacy pro’s at NAV may be pissed, but I find it’s truly a much needed growing pain. New grads unite

  • @ryananderson8642
    @ryananderson8642 Рік тому +8

    Hi Eric, great topic, thanks! Where do you think Odoo is situated in your discussion here? I’ve been using it for the past 5 years for my business and it is evolving very quickly with a lot of added strenght!

  • @mobineapen3423
    @mobineapen3423 Рік тому +3

    It is incorrect to say erp is dying. It is getting improved and evolved to work perfectly in cloud. So those erp companies which were slow in adopting to cloud are dying or trying to survive with acquisition. Companies like oracle which rewrote all the code in cloud are still able to survive and survive well in the erp market.

  • @Bertie22222
    @Bertie22222 Рік тому +2

    I can see your point, large Erp software companies are developing huge, complex and expensive solutions that tend to underdeliver at the implementation stage and take years to give a noticeable ROI. This can be because the customer has pressures in the business, lacks required skills and/or consultants are unable to keep pace with the non-stop service packs.
    Maybe the future is for more affordable, simpler App based modules from different providers that integrate seamlessly.

  • @Satyamp.12
    @Satyamp.12 Рік тому

    much appreciated information

  • @alexanderehn3729
    @alexanderehn3729 Рік тому

    Hi,
    Unfortunately, I'd say your analysis did apply about 5-4 years ago but is not current as of today. Things have moved quickly in the last few years.
    Thankfully large vendors like Infor manage to navigate the questions and concerns you mention.
    Interesting reading in the Transformation Report, thanks!

  • @davocc2405
    @davocc2405 Рік тому +5

    Overconfidence in the cloud is a supreme liability as it can be shattered so quickly that the organisation itself can grind to an actual halt. Cloud providers have a vested interest in keeping major breaches and incursions quiet, I know of a MAJOR one that halted customer operations for days but there is nothing in the media about it as careful reputation management was paramount.

    • @jimblack8027
      @jimblack8027 Рік тому +1

      When you have a dispute with the vendor of an on-prem solution, the most the vendor can do is deny access to Support. When you have a dispute with the vendor of a cloud solution, that vendor can shut down your entire operations instantly. Receiving can't receive; Purchasing can't purchase; Customer Service can't enter customer orders; Inventory doesn't move. I am amazed at how much control today's software users are willing to place in the hands of their software vendor. And besides, having your data "in the cloud" means your data can evaporate just like a cloud. It is said that people are the most important asset for a business. It's not true. DATA is the most important asset for a business. You can replace people. You can't replace your data. As technology becomes ever more sophisticated, users become ever more naive.

  • @jasonhendrickson1086
    @jasonhendrickson1086 Рік тому +25

    This video tells me you don't have a grasp on great ERP systems. Any CFO/CEO/Controller that takes themselves and their business seriously enough and the company is actually growing, they will need an ERP system. Not even MRP is good enough for manufacturers alone.
    No, ERP should never be a "one size fits all" which is why the best ERP solutions WILL contact your company to figure out how to tailor their system to yours.....if you're a CFO/CEO that doesn't know that, wake up, or else your company is already behind.
    This is video is hilarious because of how useless it is, come on Eric. Quit with the click bait.

    • @philippierce3198
      @philippierce3198 Рік тому +3

      The average CEO or CFO will purchase an ERP system 2 or 3 times in their career. So do you really think they have a solid grasp on ERP? This video, case in point.

  • @user-zr2xi4bw2z
    @user-zr2xi4bw2z Рік тому

    Eric, thanks for your deep analysis! Very useful.
    Could you please also analyse a role of PLM systems in an entire enterprise automation stack?
    Thanks!

  • @CrossEyedMary1967
    @CrossEyedMary1967 Рік тому +4

    I would not say ERP is dying itself, but monolithic approach of ERP is shifting to more flexible form. As technology advanced last 10-15 years there is no need to run monolithic applications. Top ERP producers now offer CRM, HCM,Finance, WMS, BI etc. as separate Saas solutions with excellent possibilities of integration between each other with default interfaces, dual write features and so on. So customers can combine these solutions according to their business needs.

    • @Miguel_Thorpe
      @Miguel_Thorpe Рік тому

      ObiusERP is a Decentralized ERP solution where every transaction is transacted on Constellation’s Hypergraph which is a super distributed ledger technology. This allows for AI to take complex data types & utilize meta data to better the ERP solution & experience, applying Web3 incentives for consumers as well. Not only this but ObiusERP is a member of the Digital Pound Foundation for CBDC’s & will offer their own POS system where businesses can run all financial transactions (including accounting) on distributed ledger technology, which makes their business much more efficient than what any other ERP solution offers. This will be the death of legacy ERP solutions.

    • @bigmacdaddy1234
      @bigmacdaddy1234 Рік тому

      ERP was never about being monolithic. You have a misunderstanding of what ERP is.

    • @CrossEyedMary1967
      @CrossEyedMary1967 Рік тому

      @@bigmacdaddy1234 Yes, you are probably right. 🤷🏻

  • @bigmacdaddy1234
    @bigmacdaddy1234 Рік тому +1

    The best thing a company can do is maintain their ERP system and complement it with Digital transformation platforms. You then get the best of both worlds.

  • @sachinsanake547
    @sachinsanake547 Рік тому +1

    I agree with the analysis. Cost and value are adverse now with big ERP firm. The cloud and Mobile apps also changed the entire business dynamics.

    • @rajendramodusu5980
      @rajendramodusu5980 Рік тому

      Utubers also
      Oracle usa 🇺🇸is having tremendous layoff
      Plus even after they went on cloud after rel 12 70 %droppage in client
      Oracle and SAP almost in coma

  • @YehiaAbelSalam
    @YehiaAbelSalam Рік тому +6

    tend to disagree. The key value of ERP is to have a complete ERP/HCM/CX platform. That’s why Salesforce had to offer FinancialForce, and Workday is investing in ERP/SCM along their HR platform. Having HR and Financials as two separate systems is a complete mess, and integration when done right is very hard, it’s not just about a single SSO, there is roles/permissions/approval hierarchies, that u always need to have it in sync.

    • @MeiinUK
      @MeiinUK Рік тому

      This is why you shouldn't go into the cloud. Cos once you are on the cloud, you effectively just sold your company data to the actual... Cloud ERP company's own data sets. They will own you. Not the other way around.

  • @thomaskatt4450
    @thomaskatt4450 Рік тому +8

    Not sure what is "ending". ERP will simply continue to evolve. ERP was a replacement for custom systems. And those I don't see coming back. It leveraged best accounting practices as they were standardized at the time. If we go towards "best practices" and "cloud" then those will improve over time if they are half-baked now. The big players find it easier to buy out successful little niche companies and integrate them over time then try to create their own. Siebel was an Oracle executive who broke away with his own idea just as Oracle tried to match his product. In the end it was easier to just buy him and bring him and his products back 'in house'.

  • @GerdCastan
    @GerdCastan Рік тому +15

    SAP evolved into an integration platform that is called… SAP.
    So you use the standard where you’re not too special and and integrate best of breed where you need it.
    I see no reason why others don’t use the same strategy.
    There’s a more dangerous trend for ERP customers:
    With the cloud strategy, SAP tries to replace customers in house developers who know the inhouse processes.
    Once the in house technical staff with business process knowledge is lost, the vendor lock in is perfect.

    • @Markus-zb5zd
      @Markus-zb5zd Рік тому

      that boat sailed like 20 years ago, the developers doing these things are already only working for consultancies

  • @thislife1980
    @thislife1980 Рік тому +1

    Currently, SAP is a lot faster than Oracle cloud. I also love how you copy cells in excel and then pasting it directly to sap.

  • @TheContainerGuyTV
    @TheContainerGuyTV Рік тому +2

    Thanks!
    Looking at using Odoo. Thoughts?

    • @Raijionokeashi
      @Raijionokeashi 3 місяці тому

      I'm doing the same. It's seems to be the logical choice out of all the others, for startups and side hustles.

  • @Shalamarshalamar
    @Shalamarshalamar Рік тому +1

    It’s all about joining/blending of Different data sources & the Analytics / visualization , coupled with Machine Learning / AI ...the New Trend .

  • @John2710
    @John2710 Рік тому

    As we are mentioning low code solutions. How does Claris Filemaker fit in? Lately there are options to integrate it in corporate environments.

  • @xiaoyangshawnhuang1251
    @xiaoyangshawnhuang1251 Рік тому

    Greate insight. It's so unbelievable even noawdays to implement or upgrade ERP is still so painful for an organization, ERP is either going to die or to be replaced by more agile and scalable solutions, I think.

    • @bigmacdaddy1234
      @bigmacdaddy1234 Рік тому +2

      ERP is agile and scalable. Nothing has changed. Somebody still has to do implementation and upgrade no matter what. This doesn't go away because you are 'in the cloud'.

  • @eotvosszabi
    @eotvosszabi Рік тому +4

    Hi Eric and others! I would be curious of your opinion on the ""best of breed " approach. To me, based on your assessment, it seems like the challenges of integrating these softwares and maintaining those are now less impactful/important then the benefit of the feature richness and the added agility that these pieces of software are bringing to the table? The reason i'm asking is that where customers followed the best of breed approach, they are having troubles about the integrations and stability which are coming from the usual factors like: shared responsibility, different business models, lack of focus on the integration side. Isn't there a constant move from ERP to "best of breed" and then back to ERP over time but never solving the two core problems (agility vs ootb integrated)? What are your views on this?

  • @raylopez99
    @raylopez99 Рік тому +2

    If ERP software is dying, and it's taking almost 25 years, then it's like the fat lady at the opera...a slow death that might last another 25 years. I recall reading in the Economist magazine how DeBeers is destined to fail...this was back in the 1980s. Same with OPEC. They're still around, and likely to be around for a long time.

  • @flowerpt
    @flowerpt Рік тому

    Customization, like you said, is limited, so organizations adapt to the software. This is usually against their best interests.
    Integration of disparate systems is the more successful "ERP" play but then the consultant is selling services, not software, so the vendor and the customer rarely have aligned interests. This drives CFO's to "The Cloud" because the lack of control is also a lack of a headache.
    The people who buck these trends are the MVP's.

  • @sanjayasiriwardana9666
    @sanjayasiriwardana9666 Рік тому +1

    If the software operates in cloud as SaaS then it makes sense that ERP software can be a fit for everybody in multiple industry markets as long as configurations on software has a great degree of flexibility to generate unique business models with autonomy in backend and front end integration 🌍

  • @abhipatil4844
    @abhipatil4844 Рік тому

    good analysis

  • @laurynasmerkelis2370
    @laurynasmerkelis2370 Рік тому +1

    The whole ERP concept has shifted.
    My opinion is, that organizations should choose a platform as a base for old style of ERP understanding, depending on business size, process requirements, considering possible limitations or challenges, that may be easier on one or another platform, technical capability and resources. Once platform is chosen, specific problematic areas that require solutions should be chosen and, as you call it, upstart (some of them 20 years old) can be used to cater for specific area of business while maintaining integrity of overall business processes, information collection and sharing for productive operations.
    ERP was never a full solution to big and complex businesses as it was not capable to (easily) cater for some of side-line processes due to it's rigidity or lack of some capabilities.
    Suggestion: big or small, choose a platform and transition via hybrid approach in to the cloud (apart from a few edge cases)

  • @tangbolo3330
    @tangbolo3330 Рік тому +3

    Erp + low code is what I believe for the future. But if one day in the future low code can provide good ERP Model. I will be happy to replace my Netsuite.

    • @neillombard2726
      @neillombard2726 Рік тому +1

      Microsoft is making huge strides in doing exactly that.

  • @NamitKewat
    @NamitKewat Рік тому

    This "low code", "no code" , "less administration" type of things from major cloud vendors and hyperscalers will going to impact a lot.... (.. .as per the current status..these composable/chainable building-blocks can quickly turn business idea to poc..and their scalability part is handled by cloud vendors)
    especially when almost everyone is struggling with IT/technical resources to implement the business needs !!
    But with ERP, for such small concepts ..
    cost/licenses/resources issues... so many factors!!

  • @nealklomp6778
    @nealklomp6778 Рік тому

    This is such a great opportunity, but *what* that opportunity is for each of us is the question we have to ask.

  • @billymania11
    @billymania11 Рік тому

    As an ETL guy, this is music to my ears. I think I will be pretty busy.

  • @PrateekMalik
    @PrateekMalik Рік тому

    In India both individual SaaS apps and ERPs are growing well. Everyone is making money, I don’t think it’s going down anytime soon.

  • @vrtclmedical1694
    @vrtclmedical1694 Рік тому +4

    ERPs are not dying, they are simply evolving, where they become a digital CORE where you connect solutions from different providers, either from the ERP manufacturer itself or from third parties. For the larger players, they offer additional value to ERP through the solutions they are acquiring and connecting on top of their existing solutions.

  • @freedomring3022
    @freedomring3022 Рік тому

    I have been working with ERP software systems for 8 years and they aren't dying. They are adapting to newer technologies and various integrations across many platforms. The demand for my services have never been higher ... In fact, I have to turn work away.

  • @sbhatt2895
    @sbhatt2895 Рік тому +3

    I see multiple ERP system adopted by customers. One interesting phenomena I see recently in Oracle ERP is instead of moving to SaaS , customer instead upgrading on-premise system. With Oracle Saas, customer has implemented PaaS database as supporting system to validate incoming data. Data is refreshed from SaaS to PaaS. Oracle provided low code no code Apex solution to customise SaaS solution further. In a way Oracle giving all tools around SaaS. Oracle procurement , Payables and General ledger is used most in Oracle. Oracle provided good BI for reporting. In way as you said big integrated solution is not there. One company which I saw which implemented huge array of modules went bust. Main reason usage of feature per module was very low but customer is paying huge. Probably in near future feature based pricing may come intead of module based. Just guessing

  • @koluguri
    @koluguri Рік тому

    Hi, in this case which course suggestabl for finance students

  • @sallysally58
    @sallysally58 Рік тому

    ERP, in general, focused on accounting and manufacturing and not other function in depth. It is time ERP must be flexible to integrate with others.

  • @luisalonsomartinez8360
    @luisalonsomartinez8360 Рік тому

    A best of breed approach is at least 2x more expensive to buy and way too complex to integrate and maintain.
    Add the complexity of handling different vendors, different partners, different specialists and multiple contracts for the operation, different SLAs and vulnerability on each of the solutions chosen, specially public cloud ones.

  • @preethisailaja3014
    @preethisailaja3014 Рік тому

    Now which technology to learn

  • @joshanglesea9017
    @joshanglesea9017 Рік тому

    Gone for a dramatic title but with very blunt points throughout. The cloud move especially. Reimplementation allows for old processes to be reimagined by those currently in the organisation and in collaboration with consultants with experience across the wide ranging industries. I see best of breed being some what of a threat, but at present that is being requested as an integration. Users across systems don’t want things siloed and they crave automation.

  • @76luislara
    @76luislara Рік тому

    The ERP is not dead but is evolving. Thanks to Salesforce and other could-based Enterprise Applications, technology giants like SAP have realized that the future is oriented to more Open Source, scalable and rapid build and deploy apps. With BTP, SAP is pretty much in the right direction. The other thing is that many customers with Legacy SAP systems still preferring the traditional on-premise deployment, so it will take many more years to move those customers to the cloud. I wouldn't be surprised if by 2040 some customers still manage their main systems on-premises.

  • @valencemitchell9472
    @valencemitchell9472 Рік тому

    What about Acumatica Cloud ERP? It's seems to be the opposite of what you described in this video. Am I missing something?

  • @JG-fx8jm
    @JG-fx8jm Рік тому

    This evolution has been in affect for many years now...and yes, best of breed is the trend and future. Integration through API.

  • @rileydavidjesus
    @rileydavidjesus Рік тому +1

    Nice bloopers at the end

    • @erickimberling
      @erickimberling  Рік тому

      Thank you - there are always plenty of bloopers from each video I film!

  • @MommyMy
    @MommyMy Рік тому

    I don’t believe that ERP software is dying since software vendors like SAP, Infor, Oracle and Microsoft has been evolving as well. However its a given there’s no one size fits all solution to address today’s complex business processes. These ERP applications will need to have better integration capability and level up the security features.

  • @Charlie888
    @Charlie888 Рік тому

    Awesome!

  • @kaliyugam_moksham
    @kaliyugam_moksham Рік тому

    Any ERP can't fulfill all requirements of any business and combinations of cloud and onpremises versions always exists in feature too..there is no end but keeps on changing since the technology keeps on changing

  • @josealinarez
    @josealinarez Рік тому

    I am always attentive to everything they publish, it seems to me an excellent channel. This time I have to say that I do not agree with what is expressed in this video, at Odoo we aim for a 100% cloud strategy that integrates the different business areas and we do it very well, I encourage you to see the ton of improvements which we are going to introduce soon with our version 16. Perhaps the ERPs that have to change their strategy are undoubtedly those that must be completely rewritten to work in the cloud, fortunately it is not our case. We are 100% open source and that is our greatest strength.

  • @cameronsheridan2335
    @cameronsheridan2335 Рік тому

    The downside to best-in-breed products is they are siloed. Having data in one section of your business that doesn't "talk" to the other parts of your business limits the ability to concisely correlate data to actually improve efficiencies, limit waste, automate and improve productivity and profitability. A siloed program simply moves the bottleneck or constraint further along the chain. True ERP systems are still the best fit for this purpose and will be for a long time to come (interoperability platforms are still a long way from filling this need in the market)

    • @uskv
      @uskv Рік тому +2

      Absolutely. These cloud niche solutions are new forms of siloed home grown applications of 80s and 90s.

    • @Markus-zb5zd
      @Markus-zb5zd Рік тому

      it also creates redundant data that could disagree, e.g. if cou grant a customer a discount after the sale in SAP the amount is already booked on the accounts and all is fine, no Financial integration needed, as the invoice itself is a financial document in the truest terms

  • @petercummins1097
    @petercummins1097 Рік тому

    This is incredibly insightful, but only if today is 2012 😶

  • @fbidawi
    @fbidawi Рік тому

    Erp system provide better visibility and more accurate transactions that singular platforms

  • @embracetheart
    @embracetheart Рік тому +1

    Not dying at all. Just evolution.

  • @low_samba
    @low_samba 6 місяців тому

    First of all, sorry about my english, i know the cloud is the future, but, and the services that needs to be works offline? In Brazil when you go to a shop and buy something, taxes is emited, if no internet or gov system is down taxes is saved offline to upload later, so if solution is in the cloud, how deal with this situation?

  • @marloncardoso264
    @marloncardoso264 Рік тому

    IMHO: Avoid "best of breed" as hell! I have seen lots of satellite systems doing what the ERP already can do, they were bought/installed because of the implementation team lack of knowledge about the ERP functionality. This happens in all areas, from reports of leads to barcode use in warehouse, from credit card reconciliation to employee benefits control, from travel expenses control to planning and production control, the list goes on and on. Have a team that REALLY knows the ERP and apply Pareto principle.

  • @shooters99
    @shooters99 Рік тому +3

    It means Odoo is the best Future ERP System, which not only an opern Erp but also able to integrate and adjust itself into any form of business.
    SAP and other giants were good but now the restrictions they are placing are making them not user friendly. Which have adverse consequences.

  • @jimblack8027
    @jimblack8027 Рік тому

    It amuses me that we continue to have the "Best-of-Breed versus ERP" debate in which I first participated in the mid 90s. The notion that BofB is a viable option is yet another manifestation of the lack of maturity amongst business leaders vis-à-vis business systems. The greatest benefactors of this debate are those who continue to give it oxygen. After decades of evidence, it is disingenuous of such people to suggest that best-of-breed has, or will ever, "replace" an integrated solution. Even with cloud technology in place, it is enormously advantageous to the users of business software to deal with as few software vendors as possible. Having a common user interface across the entire organization is as sensible as having a common language (i.e. English) by which your people, customers, and suppliers communicate. A surfeit of user interfaces poses a significant impediment to training and operations. It is important to remember that "great software with good people" will produce good results but "great people with good software" will produce great results. Today, as was true decades ago and will be true decades from now, it's all about the people.

  • @touilebmahdi1936
    @touilebmahdi1936 Рік тому

    Flexible and open source solutions like Odoo is the future

  • @bobosullivan9888
    @bobosullivan9888 Рік тому

    I didn't realize that Salesforce was still considered a "Startup" at 23 years old...😅

  • @DPK12
    @DPK12 Рік тому +2

    Eric your references of ERP vendors acquiring solutions to fill a gap are years out of date..

  • @AkiZukiLenn
    @AkiZukiLenn Рік тому

    A very good news since Im starting my first job tomorrow in ERP company
    No its not .

  • @wewegomb
    @wewegomb Рік тому +2

    Nah.. I prefer monoliths ERP with some added models & big data cloud support than handle all those microservices.

  • @liviut.7919
    @liviut.7919 Рік тому

    90 of 100 of top companies are using SAP ERP. I think they are pretty alive

  • @jimblack8027
    @jimblack8027 Рік тому

    I have been unable to verify the claim that "ERP software has been dying a slow death for the past few decades". I *have* been able to verify, through Statista, that global ERP software revenue has grown steadily from 2011 (23.8 billion USD) to 2017 (34.36 billion USD). It may be that ERP is a declining percentage of total software sales but I've not been able to verify or discredit that. I will keep looking.

  • @jacksonmay153
    @jacksonmay153 Рік тому +6

    SAP ain't going nowhere.

    • @erickimberling
      @erickimberling  Рік тому

      You may be right! History would suggest that you are...

    • @jwalafire98
      @jwalafire98 Рік тому

      Agreed many org going to fiori but not full cloud as standalone cloud

  • @ginobabu061
    @ginobabu061 Рік тому +1

    Naaah.. SAP is immortal💙

  • @catcherinthepie3846
    @catcherinthepie3846 Рік тому +1

    I mean, I guess if the company was a mom and pop selling ceramics out of their back shed, they would find value in agreeing with this video

  • @jonathannewstead6599
    @jonathannewstead6599 Рік тому

    What about NetSuite?!

  • @mauriciogamboaalzate
    @mauriciogamboaalzate Рік тому

    Parcialmente cierto!!! Por supuesto un sistema ERP nunca va a poder abordar todos y cada uno de los requerimientos de los clientes internos de la organización, pero esto SIEMPRE LO HEMOS SABIDO, aquí tu propuesta no es innovadora, inclusive desde hace más de 10 años de viene trabajando fuertemente en soluciones a la medida que se puedan integrar a la base (ERP), sin embargo, esta opción a pesar que es muy utilizada es por mucho más costosa, ya que implica crear entornos de interoperatividad (API, Colas Rabbit MQ…), mantenimiento de los mismos, evolución de esos mismos entornos, lo cual representa un sobre costo para las empresas, que obviamente no hablo de las grandes empresas (ellas tienen cómo pagarlo). Por eso respeto tu punto de vista pero no lo comparto, creo que todavía el software ERP es la mejor opción para una empresa pequeña o mediana, inclusive partamos que la gran parte de estas empresa tienen el caso inverso, cuentan con soluciones aisladas que no permiten la interoperatividad y al ser así no pueden operar de manera óptima, llevándolos a requerir un ERP para ello, Por tanto el ERP está más vivo que nunca, lo único es que con el nuevo concepto de ERP Cloud.

  • @everythingisfake7555
    @everythingisfake7555 5 місяців тому

    most people will never understand an erp and of those that do, even fewer will be able to utilise them

  • @Miguel_Thorpe
    @Miguel_Thorpe Рік тому

    ObiusERP is a Decentralized ERP solution where every transaction is transacted on Constellation’s Hypergraph which is a super distributed ledger technology. This allows for AI to take complex data types & utilize meta data to better the ERP solution & experience, applying Web3 incentives for consumers as well. Not only this but ObiusERP is a member of the Digital Pound Foundation for CBDC’s & will offer their own POS system where businesses can run all financial transactions (including accounting) on distributed ledger technology, which makes their business much more efficient than what any other ERP solution offers. This will be the death of legacy ERP solutions.

  • @mnminnmn
    @mnminnmn Рік тому +1

    Hows odoo with open source 3rd party apps coming along?

  • @henghistbluetooth7882
    @henghistbluetooth7882 Рік тому +3

    Seems that what you’re saying is that 2030 is going to look a lot like 1990. Not entirely convinced.

  • @tarasuresh3912
    @tarasuresh3912 Рік тому

    Good Evening Eric , For the Food Industrial Catering Unit which ERP Software System is best could you please suggest them I am from India

  • @andrewatlarge
    @andrewatlarge Рік тому +2

    I think the exact opposite is happening. The sme market has been mashing up apps for a long time but the integration between these solutions is not perfect. In addition it creates multiple uis to learn, different databases and processes that aren’t aligned. As soon as small business gets large enough they move to single system software. Your analysis is very focused on tier 1 systems like SAP. There are others like odoo for example that is a true ERP yet can scale from small to large - is flexible and cloud orientated. Larger businesses moving to mashups or best of breeds always end up - not quite right…

  •  Рік тому

    Airtable / Zapier / Make -> Futur

  • @Markus-zb5zd
    @Markus-zb5zd Рік тому

    ERP is never "one size fits all" they are heavily customized systems and even for a medium size company starting a transition to a new ERP is an endeavor costig millions as you have to adjust all the things that don't fit, and with most ERP Systems, notable SAP, this is possible, you can also just use parts of an ERP and create interfaces to other systems, external CRM systems are the norm, even for big SAP users

    • @MeiinUK
      @MeiinUK Рік тому

      They are not "customised" but are "localised". Meaning that if country A wants 20% tax. Then they will get it. Not use and recreate that codes again in a cloud product. And or even to merge them over and use the cloud company's data and... Let them sell your own company data for their clients!!!....

  • @surontube
    @surontube Рік тому

    Back in the 70's they had these point solutions that were doing specific functions and its was a pain to have them talk to each other - and that gave birth to ERP. Now we are going in circles and saying lets kill ERP go back to best of breed solutions , sugar coat it will cloud and API capabilities and spend millions hiring people to integrate all of them when you could buy an ERP with less or equal cost and compromise on little bit on flexibility (or call it lack of process discipline). Also SAP, Oracle etc.. are constantly enhancing their products to provide tools to leverage latest and greatest trends like 'Digital Transformation', riding 'Intelligence Wave', RPA, Block chain etc... may be they did not watch this video, or , may be you have not seen what these ERPs are capable of in 2022, BTW ERPs are also on cloud now.
    In my Opinion, ERPs are still very powerful engines. What I have seen happening is - they are not dying , instead they are becoming sort of 'Back Ends' to these very savvy point solutions like where you could click a photo of a receipt and submit an expense report, or some cloud OCR service (eg AWS Textract ) that ERP can now easily consume to provide AP automation or you can a get sleek analytics or BI solution that can serve your blue collar to white collar or the latest buzzz is Low-Code / No-Code solutions (eg MS Power Automate) where you can cook up a process flow in 15 mins that can , for example, build your own custom vendor onboarding portal that will create you Vendor master data without getting into the ERP.
    So I am proud to live long enough to see the death of ERPs. look into its eyes as it takes its last breath.. But I am still waiting for that day.

  • @billcummings8337
    @billcummings8337 Рік тому

    SAP bought too much and followed the path of Oracle trying to fuze everything together. And trying to rebrand it as an “experience “

  • @FoivosAngelakis
    @FoivosAngelakis Рік тому +1

    ERPs are dead cloud or on premise, many big and smb companies do not care anymore. They will get the minimum number of users from an ERP just to have their basic needs covered and then they will just fk up the rest of their employees/resources (call it as you wish) to make data entry 5-6 hours per day to make data entries in excel sheets, ms access crappy logic, Jira Issues, Teamwork Tasks and real work time 2-3 hours. A very sad truth as I see it

    • @neillombard2726
      @neillombard2726 Рік тому +1

      You need to be introduced to the current Microsoft cloud offerings in Dynamics 365. It will give you a new perspective on this.

    • @bigmacdaddy1234
      @bigmacdaddy1234 Рік тому

      @@neillombard2726 You are 100% right.

  • @Antman_007
    @Antman_007 Рік тому

    I do agree that ERP Days are coming to a decline; the signals are there; failed implementations, Vendors buying bet of breed to gain market share and eventually will have two options either move their customers from best of breed to their ERP or depending how the wind blows continue with best of breed while Reveunes from their ERP start to decline. There will be Best Of Breeds Integrating tightly via APIs . And for the Tight integration & security ascpect of all those connected systems there will be a standard set that is needed to control segregation of duites , Permission Rules & Access Rights accross all connected Systems. In fact the introduction of a Master Enterpise Security Command Center -MESCC will pave the way to have tight control on Solutions Purchased from different vendors.

  • @onlinebusinessempires6202
    @onlinebusinessempires6202 Рік тому +1

    I can disagree with your opinion simply from your prospective. Your prospective comes from systems claiming to be erp. But an ERP is a structural solution. It’s like saying CRMs are dying but an offline or online CSV can be a CRM. For the last year business has been booming by companies wanting a ERP built using their current software solutions.

  • @JuanCarlos-xv6ux
    @JuanCarlos-xv6ux Рік тому

    I believe, partially ERP systems are dying but not of all them. Certainly SAP, Oracle and Dynamics, which for me is not an ERP as it should be, and some others, are dying for many reasons . SAP primarily is dying because their strictly and highly cost licensing scheme added to a very poor moving to S4Hanna strategy and not less important, the lack of flexibility for adapting to a specific business needs. Oracle, well, where to start, they have purchased so many other solutions that they just can't get them all in one, and that's all I have to say for Oracle. Microsoft Dynamics is very poor on the manufacturing module, lack production planning and some other weaknesses .
    But by the other side, we need to take a look at other emerging ERPs like ERP Next or ODOO(former Open ERP), that bring so many advantages than the others mentioned above. For Example they are based on open source, so, no code is strictly copyrighted. ODOO was born as SaaS and PaaS so no problems on compatibility can be found. Licensing, Installation, operation and portability costs are very reasonable. Lastly I believe SAP and Microsoft need to evolve very very fast in order to survive. I have 35 years of experience implementing MRPs and ERPs like BPCS, SAP, JDEdwards, ORACLE Enterprise among others homemade ERPs, and I'm looking very seriously those emerging ERP since I'm realizing great advantages that Businesses could take part of them.

  • @darrinkinney2268
    @darrinkinney2268 Рік тому

    I skipped the second he referred to Saleforce as an upstart. Great topic, ERP systems are a complete disaster these days

  • @iqbal0725
    @iqbal0725 Рік тому

    Most software companies are moving to cloud technologies

    • @bigmacdaddy1234
      @bigmacdaddy1234 Рік тому

      Cloud just means that you are using somebody else's computer. Nothing new or special about that.

  • @FredHendrix
    @FredHendrix Рік тому +1

    Great video that is very relevant to me. I will celebrate when SAP breathes its death gasp. It is stunning to me that it persists and I will gleefully replace my SAP work flows while wearing a grin.

  • @JohnPatersonAu
    @JohnPatersonAu Рік тому +1

    CRM and HRM were never core ERP. CRM is more of a sales tool - not an accounting tool. HRM is not something you want the whole enterprise to have access to. Core accounting / supply chain / manufacturing ERP isn't going anywhere. Only small businesses that don't need much functionality and can't afford to implement or run an ERP system in-house are moving to the cloud. On-premise is way more functional and if people need to access it off-site, they just use remote desktop. This is just click-bait to generate leads.

  • @u3616234
    @u3616234 Рік тому

    ERP will be every company standard. Low price and small companies will use it like normal software. is it call death of ERP?

  • @philippierce3198
    @philippierce3198 Рік тому +2

    Not sure why anyone would ever avoid cloud ERP. Do you make the most sales whenever your internet goes down for 20 minutes during a thunderstorm? Is your business out in the middle of nowhere running on dial-up? If so, then your business isn't valuable.
    If you're goal is to sell your company in five years and you don't have a method of tracking inventory or financials, then you won't be able to sell.

  • @whathaff
    @whathaff Рік тому

    Just change its name to BPO system or Work Flow solutions, done!

  • @billcummings8337
    @billcummings8337 Рік тому

    ERP systems just won’t work when you have 20 legacy systems to interface