How to Prepare for a TRANSFER CASE SWAP - Featuring Project Dan H
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- Опубліковано 29 жов 2019
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The collab of the century is finally here... Project Dan H. D&E in the Garage. Together for the first time ever as: Project DD&E in the Garage.
Today we are going over the key factors to consider when planning a transfer case swap in your Jeep or truck. The information in this video will be applicable for all New Venture/ New Process transfer cases commonly found in Jeeps, Dodges, and GM vehicles.
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Great Vid! What a Blast that day was! Cant wait for the next one.
I love Project Dan H channel. I have learned a bunch of tips for my WJ
Novak conversions make solid pieces... I used their transmission (SM465) to transfer case (NP231J) adapter and Hydraulic clutch conversion in my YJ build. Rock solid parts and customer service.
Great seeing double D and E in the garage keep up the great work
I'm a new subscriber to both your channels,love the content and extremely helpful as I mess with my 2001 XJ! Thanks Guys!!!
Looks like you guys had fun....
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Awesome man you finally found a tranfercase for the jeep. It's always cool to meet other youtubers it was cool to see you guys collaborate
Yes, FINALLY! Now I just need a free afternoon to slip it in the Jeep
Epic collaboration video! I got to get in on the next one!
Heck yea, bud!
I've never had a problem in my 97 ZJ shifting my 242 in & out of different modes. I bought the Jeep new also & always kept up on maintenance.
Great video guys! We have been thinking about upgrading our T-case. I believe the 242 and 231 both have a 2.73 low range. ❤️🐞 Bug has been learning stuff!!!
WOOHOO! Cheers to learning!
One thing I wish these WJ's had was locking hubs, even auto locking hubs.
Could you imagine?! Would be awesome
For the linkage, take a look at mountain Vista fabrication. Completely deleted the stupid stock one with one single super beefy linkage. Way cheaper than Novak.
I will do that because I do not want to use stock linkage, but cannot afford Novak. Thanks!
do you have a video on how to replace transfer case fluid by chance?
This is so cool! I'm a little bit torn because I live in Long Island City and I've been looking for a 242 that's convenient for me to get to (read: don't have to drive upstate or into Jersey for), but if I'd have paid enough attention to know that Dan had one and offered him some money for it, this mash up wouldn't have happened! Plus I guess swapping transfer cases while being parked on a side street in Queens doesn't sound particularly fun... so I think I'm okay with the outcome haha. Keep up the good work all of you guys! Love all of your content!
Sorry to take your t-case. maybe we can find one for you locally sometime
@@DEInTheGarage hah! definitely not mine, it went to a better cause :) I definitely wouldn't turn down a meetup sometime though! I'd considered tipping my toes in the water of UA-cam for my own Jeep mechanical adventures since I only have the street outside of my apartment, but it always turns into a shitshow where nothing goes right.
I didn’t know about Dan. Subbed now purely based on the recommendation from Doug. Looking forward to checking him out, I dig the Commander.
Thanks Barry!
You will not regret it! Dan has some awesome content and some awesome Jeeps
Try out the doorpinlock linkage upgrade for 60 bucks from Amazon it solves all those issues of being stuck in 4wd I have put this on every xj I have had recently and have one on my daily xj classic with the 242 it works great
Great collab video guys very well thought out!!! I liked the reference to kyles outro at the end too hahaha. Wish I lived closer!!!
I had a crazy Idea for a 4 way collab. We should all meet up and have a discussion
Project Dan H heck yea! Get a group chat going on Instagram
Yea buddy. We wish you were a bit closer too! Maybe we can meetup in the middle of PA sometime
@@DEInTheGarage Im in... Or perhaps at the D&E polar plunge!
Project Dan H only way I’m showing up to the d and e polar plunge is fully clothed with a hot cup of coffee and not jumping in ice water haha
hello, the video is great... do you know how to install a jeep cherokee xj transfer case from a grand cherokee 242hd if anyone knows, please help, thanks in advance
Those things are bone simple to rebuild. As long as the case hasnt grenaded you can rebuild it with quality parts for less than 300 dollars including chain.
Hey guys I have a question and was hoping you could help me out. I have been subbed for a couple years now and watched pretty much all your videos and I am asking you guys because I have seen you guys work and trust what you have to say. Ok enough of that and my question is what transfer case would you think would be best to swap into my 1997 Grand Cherokee ZJ with the 5.2 and has the 249 in it currently? I am just at the beginning of this project and just wanted to get as much info as possible. Thanks
Mountain Vista makes a nice shifter linkage that will replace the junk stock linkage..
Will it work in a WJ? Seems like all their stuff is ZJ specific
Hey Guys! I LOVE your channel, I’m about to do a swap in my 94 ZJ. From a 249 to a 231. My current tcase in my ZJ is a 249 from 1996. The 231 is from a 99 XJ. I’m so confused on gear cuts. I’m guessing I have the old gear cut. Is it possible to build a hybrid case of the 249 and 231 to avoid getting a new input shaft?
You you are trying to avoid splitting the cases apart?
D&E In The Garage I got the 231 in!!! Just ended up swapping the input shafts. Was fairly easy! Need to get my rear driveshaft trimmed and re balanced
I have a 04 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 242 I need a new transfer case what jeep 242 can I pull it out and automatically it should fit in
Any 99-04 grand cherokee with the same motor as yours (I assume you have the 4.0L, so find a WJ with a 4.0 and you will be fine)
Yes I do have a 4.0 thank you for replying back to me
Ok so i'm just getting into the off-roading world and i'm interested in building a WJ. I live in Phoenix so i'll be doing more rock crawling than mudding. I've found a 2004 Grand Cherokee that i'm going to look at. it has the 4.0 which i want. Is there anything in particular that i should look at when i go to see the vehicle that you guys can give me a heads up on. truck looks really clean but ya never know.
Just look for oil leaks on the motor. most 4.0s have a few, but you want to know about it before you buy. especially the rear main seal (between the engine and transmission). If the bottom of the motor is soaked or something you may want to dig in further and make sure it was never run dry of oil. I assume as you are in AZ rust will not be an issue like it is up here, but make sure the cooling system looks good. if you are going to be rock crawling in the desert, any issues with the cooling system will quickly become a MAJOR issue. look for leaks and check to see if it looks like the water pump has ever been replaced. Side note: I would suggest installing a transmission cooler if the Jeep does not have on already. I have a video on and easy install method if you are interested. The 42RE transmission behind the 2004 4.0L does NOT like to be hot and will give you issues if overheated.
@@DEInTheGarage thanx! i'll keep ya posted just for s**ts and grins
So if I found that 231HD or whatever with the ultra low gear in it I should be able to bolt that up to my transmission as long as I swap out the shaft? 🤔 skeptical?
Yea bud. Check the forums. The cases on the one made for all Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep are the same. All they change as in the inside parts and input shafts usually. The only other thing that SOMETIMES needs to be changed over is the output shaft cover plate. Some output shafts as a different diameter, but all the plates have the same mounting points. I have personally seen a 231HD taken from a dodge pickup and in an afternoon had the output shaft swapped and put into a Jeep cherokee
@@DEInTheGarage sweet! Probably harder to find than a 242HD but that ultra low gear sounds too good to pass up!
My 96 Cherokee has a 231 what would be a good upgrade for it? Is the 242 a stronger t case? I have always been partial to the gear driven t case.
The 231 is actually the stronger case. the 242 just has Full-Time 4wd as an option which is nice.
Going of NP/NVG's numbering system the 242 is stronger.
For what its worth the heavy duty version of the 242 is in the military HMMWV.
So ypu talked about all these different t cases... But what about a 272 in a 2000 laredo? This is what I believe is in mine... Not sure if I'm looking at the right tags or etchings, but the small circle tab with the red outline is saying 272... So what is that and or, how do I find out what I have in mine?
That is the gear ratio, not the case ID. Look at the top of the tag where it says “model”
Your 2000 Laredo likely has the 242, though there is a small chance it has a 247
If it's a quadra-anything in a 2000, it's 247.
2.72 is the low range ratio. Your 2000 Laredo either has the 242 (Selec-Trac) if you have 2WD, part time, full time, neutral, and low range on the shifter, or it has the 247 (Quadra-Trac, or Quadra-Drive) if it has the All time 4WD, Neutral, and Low Range. The only difference between quadra-trac and quadra-drive is with quadra-drive it gave you the limited slip front and rear axles, after the WJ's production ended in 2004 starting in 2005 the Quadra-Drive WK's only had a limited slip rear axle.
I dont want awd in my zj. What transfer case can i swap in directly
Depends on the year of your ZJ. If you google ZJ transfer case swap, there is a list that will tell you your input shaft length. I have a 97 ZJ with the 249 (AWD) and I got a 231 out of a 97 XJ. It bolted right up with no modification.
A direct swap for AWD (technically not AWD, but "full-time 4wd"... just semantics) would be a 249, but they are not very reliable. I would suggest getting a 247 from a WJ as the limited slip progressive coupler they use is much stronger. You would have to switch the input shaft on the new case to use the one from your stock case. I have a video coming out on how to do that within a few weeks. It is not hard
@@DEInTheGarage I read his comment as I have AWD and want a selectable transfer case 242/231.
The 249 is a strong case. The issue is the viscous coupler goes bad and then it is as expensive or more expensive to replace the VC rather than swap the transfer case. For instance, I spent $100 on a 231 verses $400-800 for a new VC.
Whoops. Sorry guys, I read that too fast I guess. What Kyle said is correct
If you don't want full time 4WD, the 231 is a part time only transfer case that'll swap in and it gives you 2WD, 4WD high part time, neutral, and a 2.72:1 low range. The other common option is the 242 which is a 231 transfer case with a full time 4WD mode added, otherwise the rest of it is the same, just adds an open differential full time 4WD mode which still gives you 2WD, 4WD high part time, adds the 4WD high full time, neutral, and the same 2.72:1 low range. I have the latter in my 98 ZJ, love it in the winter, throw it in full time 4WD and forget about it the rest of the winter if you want.
My previous 96 ZJ had the quadra-trac 249 transfer case and after 219k miles the viscous coupler failed leaving me with a full time 4WD system that acted like part time 4WD when trying to turn sharp...I drove it for a couple more years and sold it with 232k on it and the current owner is still driving it after replacing the transfer case...the viscous coupler is about $400-600 and then the labor of having it replaced if you don't do it yourself is pretty bad, as in you may as well buy a replacement transfer case at that point.
The only downfall to the 247 transfer case and I think the 245 is the same way is the progressive coupler only applies power to the front axle when the rear axle starts spinning faster than the front, so you have to lose traction before you gain any traction, and in what Doug and Eric found out with the WJ is when you are trying to get around easily without spinning tires to get traction you just don't have any actual 4WD. The quadra-drive sounded like a great idea in those but in the end its really not much help if you gotta lose traction before the front end gets any power.
I really can't complain with the 249 transfer case that was in my 96 ZJ, that Jeep was offroad in the mud, snow, sand, rocks, etc. far more than it was ever on the highway, and to manage to get over 200k on it before the viscous coupler failed was great I think, many report that those viscous couplers seem to fail around the 150k mark.
Man didn’t realize Dan was so tall
He is! Also, I am pretty damn short. great combo. for filming. haha
@@DEInTheGarage haha! Probably around 6'3" with the boots 🤣 I have "Tall guy in small Jeep" problems too!
Not sure you caught this but you said 2000 ZJ and its going into a 2001 WJ time stamp 10:40. ZJ stopped at 1998 in 1999 we became WJ. Just saying
I hope that isn't going in the v8...?
It is. Honestly, I have run the numbers and for what I do it is just so unlikely I am going to break it. We will see anyway
@@DEInTheGarage It should be fine, the 242 was used in a few WJ's behind the 4.7L V8 and they didn't have any issues....rarely you would find a 242 behind a 5.2L V8 in a ZJ, I've only seen a couple factory 5.2L V8's with 242's though, so must have been quite rare and I don't think it was ever a factory option in the 98 5.9L Limited V8's.
@@wildbill23c I hope he doesn't have any issues; I think the chain/sprocket width and the input shaft are the main differences. Neither should be that big a deal, but they did not put the 242J in the V8. It was the beefier version. If he wanted to ditch the 2wd, he could have dug underneath Durangos I think for the heavier one also.
Unless I am mistaken, if it begins to go bad the first thing he'll notice is the chain slipping. I hope it is a resounding success, tbh - it would make dropping one in mine half the cost.
@@gcanaday1 Yea man, that is what it came down to. Could not find an affordable 242HD in the time I have before the snow starts falling. If I break this one, I will likely go 231HD from a Dodge which are much easier to find in the yard. Someday I will find the 242HD and do the swap properly
@@DEInTheGarage There is a 242 dodge version, it has no 2wd (do we really need it? The mileage ain't much different between 2wd and full time) but the cool thing is that it has a 6-gear planetary rather than the 3-gear you get in the jeep one. I have been thinking about that but haven't tried to look for one yet. I have no idea about the input shaft or the linkage.
Edit: come to think of it, they got the same transmission, so the shaft should be right..shouldn't it?