VIFM was my gateway drug to vim. Although I knew about vim way before I knew about the existence of terminal file managers, I didn't really appreciate the benefits of a completelly keyboard-driven workflow in a TUI until I saw how I could move mountains in a tiny VIFM window.
I've never bothered to use a file manager, GUI or TUI. If I need to remember a folder to navigate to I just add a variable for it in my ~/.bashrc. It may not be the most efficient method, but it works well enough. For instance, I have "export g='~/Games'" in my configuration and I can do `cd $g/ha` and I'm at the Half-Life folder then `./hl` and I'm playing.
I love Dolphin and use the integrated terminal quite often, instead spawning a new one. Because it is attached to the gui, it will always change the current directory when you go in a different directory in the gui. And as I use a automatic tiling window manager, the attached terminal will not move to a different place when I open a new window. The only thing is, I wish I could change the integrated terminal that is based on Konsole to Kitty.
Once you have Ranger fully decked out, it's so absurdly fast and powerful. I was skeptical until I really dug into the features and realized how inefficient I've been with graphical file managers.
I use Vifm and Dolphin. But I mostly use Dolphin, because the biggest issue of terminal not supporting drag and drop. There are workarounds, but these are workarounds and I never feel good working like that. I even made Vifm show full colored images as previews.
I use Midnight Commander regularly, the only time I use a GUI file manager is when I need to access and SD card or USB stick. Only downside I've found to MC is that it doesn't send to the trash.
I like gui because I'm lazy, and nautilus is my fav cus the animations are nice, and I like gnome and I usually try to stick to the defaults as they usually integrate with the system the best Though anything that requires sudo using the terminal is way better, with stuff like nautilus its just annoying having to use the terminal to use a gui app, and stuff like my bookmarks just go away, same with my dark mode preference
I've decked my zsh out enough to where I can feel comfortable just using the bare naked command line. Otherwise I still use pcmanfm or thunar for stuff I don't feel comfortable doing on the command line.
Terminal file management.. It's sort of like pineapple on a pizza There's really no middle ground.. Either you love it or you hate it... I like them both
I just don't see a good reason to use a terminal FM. Everything can really be done with just the terminal with no extra program or dependencies(or other "resources") required. that said, I have used a couple of them. I didn't stick with them for very long(maybe a week), because I was just able to get things done faster in GUI FM. One nice thing about ranger, though, is it does have image preview with some fiddling, so if I had to use one again, it'd probably be ranger. Though that was a little hit or miss when I did use it. Sometimes it would show the preview sometimes it wouldn't. Bulk rename isn't really a feature most people use, and graphical file managers(some of them anyway) have the ability to just bookmark/pin locations, which means I really don't have to take my hand off the mouse in an otherwise graphical environment to start typing. in the time it takes to move my hand from the mouse to the keyboard, I could have just clicked the shortcut. I can see a use case maybe for a server where you're not going to have a gui at all, but on a desktop/laptop for the amount of time and work you've gotta put in to make everything as quick as other options, it's not really worth it, IMO.
Is there a reason why gui file managers do not include a small terminal window somewhere? Let's say attached to the bottom of the gui form? It would be a nice feature.
Drag and drop is integrated using one additional program and one key binding in lf. I cannot imagine being much harder elsewhere. And the behaviour of it is the same as gui FMs. At least I cannot think what else you want to do with drag and drop to make it more useful
I haven’t used that… how does it compare to Midnight Commander?
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@@code8986 First it is GUI with Qt/Gtk/Win it is something like the TotalCommander from win...that is why I like it. It is slower compared to a CLI app, but a GUI app will always be slower than a CLI app... you can not start through SSH (without X forward), etc. ! But It is working, and it is not standing in may way and for me it is enough :)
A bit of topic, could you review some wayland based WM. Xorg begins to be dated and wayland seems to be more and more mature. A decent wayland-wm alternative to dwm will be soon needed. Otherwise, Vifm+Dragon rocks no need for a gui-fm
I'm very impress for download ranger in my pop os. but i faced some issue for preview image on terminal. I'm already download w3m but its not work. Now i want to try this with ueberzug but i'm unable to download. I used some command for download ueberzug ,Here it is, sudo pip3 install ueberzug. pip3 install ueberzug. but those not work. Kindly help me for install ueberzug and how i able to see image preview on ranger. Thank you for tech me a new beautiful things in linux.
I don't really understand terminal file managers. Maybe I just haven't put enough effort in, but it seems slower than basic terminal commands and some aliases.
so why not use terminal commands like cd and ls and mv and cp and making aliases if you are that lazy for bookmarking. I mean zsh has autofill so pretty much cd name and tab works for me. so enh. If I don't move my mouse once in a while i might forget how to lol so i will stick with gui and terminal commands instead of this gimmick
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VIFM was my gateway drug to vim. Although I knew about vim way before I knew about the existence of terminal file managers, I didn't really appreciate the benefits of a completelly keyboard-driven workflow in a TUI until I saw how I could move mountains in a tiny VIFM window.
I've never bothered to use a file manager, GUI or TUI. If I need to remember a folder to navigate to I just add a variable for it in my ~/.bashrc. It may not be the most efficient method, but it works well enough. For instance, I have "export g='~/Games'" in my configuration and I can do `cd $g/ha` and I'm at the Half-Life folder then `./hl` and I'm playing.
Dolphin provides best of both, a powerful GUI file manager and you can still use integrated terminal to take advantage of full power of terminal
Gotta love Dolphin 💪😎
I love Dolphin and use the integrated terminal quite often, instead spawning a new one. Because it is attached to the gui, it will always change the current directory when you go in a different directory in the gui. And as I use a automatic tiling window manager, the attached terminal will not move to a different place when I open a new window. The only thing is, I wish I could change the integrated terminal that is based on Konsole to Kitty.
Once you have Ranger fully decked out, it's so absurdly fast and powerful. I was skeptical until I really dug into the features and realized how inefficient I've been with graphical file managers.
Sceptical until tried. Perfectly describes me 💪😁
How many cmds to learn?
@@sotecluxan4221 only as many as you want, but creating bookmarks is important for really fast navigation.
The shitty version of LF?
Well presented Matt! For every use case there is a proper tool 💪😎
mv, rm, cp, cd, tar, zip, unzip, and ls, is enough for me in a terminal tbh
+ find, GNU parallel and dragon for drag&drop
I'm pretty happy with the keyboard shortcuts in nautilus. But interesting to think about
MC Midnight Commander.
This kicks arse
Have been using mc more than 20 years.
I use Vifm and Dolphin. But I mostly use Dolphin, because the biggest issue of terminal not supporting drag and drop. There are workarounds, but these are workarounds and I never feel good working like that. I even made Vifm show full colored images as previews.
nice video would love to see video how you changed your ranger config file
I use Midnight Commander regularly, the only time I use a GUI file manager is when I need to access and SD card or USB stick.
Only downside I've found to MC is that it doesn't send to the trash.
This is perfect for a headless setup! I’m gonna try it on a raspberry pi server I have running headless.
Exactly. Our little Raspberry + a 5TB HDD is our home server and we operate it via CLI mostly 💪😎
Ranger has always been my favorite. I'm kinda king on nnn as well.
i use dragon for drag and drop, work perfect for the few times you need to drag a file in to a email, if you use web mail
Krusader or Double Commander? Why choose one over the other?
I like gui because I'm lazy, and nautilus is my fav cus the animations are nice, and I like gnome and I usually try to stick to the defaults as they usually integrate with the system the best
Though anything that requires sudo using the terminal is way better, with stuff like nautilus its just annoying having to use the terminal to use a gui app, and stuff like my bookmarks just go away, same with my dark mode preference
I've decked my zsh out enough to where I can feel comfortable just using the bare naked command line. Otherwise I still use pcmanfm or thunar for stuff I don't feel comfortable doing on the command line.
I don’t use it myself at the moment, but you may want to check out CLIfm.
Terminal file management..
It's sort of like pineapple on a pizza
There's really no middle ground..
Either you love it or you hate it...
I like them both
I just don't see a good reason to use a terminal FM. Everything can really be done with just the terminal with no extra program or dependencies(or other "resources") required. that said, I have used a couple of them. I didn't stick with them for very long(maybe a week), because I was just able to get things done faster in GUI FM. One nice thing about ranger, though, is it does have image preview with some fiddling, so if I had to use one again, it'd probably be ranger. Though that was a little hit or miss when I did use it. Sometimes it would show the preview sometimes it wouldn't. Bulk rename isn't really a feature most people use, and graphical file managers(some of them anyway) have the ability to just bookmark/pin locations, which means I really don't have to take my hand off the mouse in an otherwise graphical environment to start typing. in the time it takes to move my hand from the mouse to the keyboard, I could have just clicked the shortcut. I can see a use case maybe for a server where you're not going to have a gui at all, but on a desktop/laptop for the amount of time and work you've gotta put in to make everything as quick as other options, it's not really worth it, IMO.
never use fm but ranger, when I hit "q" key, ranger will quit and cd to ranger last directory, I found this very useful
Is there a reason why gui file managers do not include a small terminal window somewhere? Let's say attached to the bottom of the gui form? It would be a nice feature.
Dolphin and Krusader both have that
@@TheLinuxCast Thanks, TLC! Nice to know.
Nautilus has it too if you enable it
@@twb0109 Do you mean the feature, "open terminal here"? Or an actual terminal somewhere that is always accessible?
Drag and drop is integrated using one additional program and one key binding in lf. I cannot imagine being much harder elsewhere. And the behaviour of it is the same as gui FMs. At least I cannot think what else you want to do with drag and drop to make it more useful
I've used dragon. It's buggy af.
@@TheLinuxCast I am using dragon for quite awhile. No issues for me. Are there alternatives for it?
I use DoubleCommander by the way!
I haven’t used that… how does it compare to Midnight Commander?
@@code8986 First it is GUI with Qt/Gtk/Win it is something like the TotalCommander from win...that is why I like it. It is slower compared to a CLI app, but a GUI app will always be slower than a CLI app... you can not start through SSH (without X forward), etc. ! But It is working, and it is not standing in may way and for me it is enough :)
I laughed when I saw the Captain Obvious message appear on screen. Nice touch!!!!
LF is pretty barebones out of the box compared to ranger, but once you configure it and add some keybindings, it’s so much faster than ranger
Do tell
What is LF ?
dnf install lf
Came up with nothing
A bit of topic, could you review some wayland based WM. Xorg begins to be dated and wayland seems to be more and more mature. A decent wayland-wm alternative to dwm will be soon needed. Otherwise, Vifm+Dragon rocks no need for a gui-fm
No sense if Wayland continues to have issues
Could you do an advanced tutorial on ranger or broot?
I'm very impress for download ranger in my pop os. but i faced some issue for preview image on terminal. I'm already download w3m but its not work. Now i want to try this with ueberzug but i'm unable to download. I used some command for download ueberzug ,Here it is, sudo pip3 install ueberzug. pip3 install ueberzug. but those not work. Kindly help me for install ueberzug and how i able to see image preview on ranger.
Thank you for tech me a new beautiful things in linux.
It's so easy to scroll & click, I don't understand why people are so opposed to using a mouse.
Awesome
GVM, But why use a terminal file manager, just use the terminal.
I don't really understand terminal file managers. Maybe I just haven't put enough effort in, but it seems slower than basic terminal commands and some aliases.
Midnight Commander
Makes me miss TFL
👍👍
most terminal file managers don't have nextcloud integration. also as you said drag and drop is poorly implemented at best.
so why not use terminal commands like cd and ls and mv and cp and making aliases if you are that lazy for bookmarking. I mean zsh has autofill so pretty much cd name and tab works for me. so enh. If I don't move my mouse once in a while i might forget how to lol so i will stick with gui and terminal commands instead of this gimmick
Its still a lot slower then a manager since you have to enter the commands vs just basically using hjkl to go through directories
Bro, GameBoy DMG is Rock! 🪨🤘As well as vifm