Same. Fighting the bugs feels like I'm running to the grocery store and dealing with a bunch of flies or smth. Fighting the bots makes me feel like task force 141
also the new quasar cannon makes chargers so easy as long as you have someone be a dedicated anti charger anti titan. and clear out the chaff for them, an infinitely reusable pretty quickly recharging EAT makes chargers just melt.
1:09 Xbox recently made a community post that said “hell welcomes all” and there was a little explosion animation and I was like “oh cool hell divers coming to Xbox” but it was Diablo 4 coming to game pass 😂
You know canonically bugs are like bees that got out of control to produce oil, so helldivers in the bug sector are farmers while the bots are where the real war is
A tip for the Spear, it has a lot more utility on bot missions with all their buildings. There are only 3 things on bugs that it can truly target, being Spore nests, Chargers, and Bile Titans, but Chargers move around too much, so you really have to shoot first before it notices you
The bots are just too fun for me. The feeling of chaos that the pressure fire and explosions bring is incredible. It feels like an actual battlefield where the tide of battle could change by one well placed stratagem strike or an enemy drop-ship deployment.
the spear locks onto any heavy enemy. issue is that the lock on is currently EXTREMELY unreliable and it will fail you more often than working as intended. sometimes it also just refuses to oneshot the enemies its supposed to be able to because the guided rocket hits in the wrong spot. its good when it functions as intended but i'd say wait until they fix it.
I've never used the SPEAR but I've been told by people that do that it is actually very reliable, it just won't target anything closer than 60 meters which obviously sucks. On top of that even when it does lock on it doesn't reliably hit weakspots so your usually using more ammo than you would with well placed shots with Recoiless, EAT, or Quasar for the rocket launcher with the least ammo. I've definitely seen clips of the thing just refusing to work which apparently is due to small obstructions like foliage or buildings that don't look like they should block LOS on something as big as a Bile Titan but for some reason do anyway. IDK, thing definitely needs some kind of buff, with lock on consistency and either ammo, accuracy , or damage to compensate for never hitting the head.
I fucking love fighting bots, it's so fun and the challenge of the enemies feels more real, compared to randomly getting insta killed by a dead silent charger or bile spewer
Yeah, a lot of the bug fighters or a lot of the divers in general don’t seem to realize that the bugs and bots require completely different strategies and styles to do them 😅
Tbh I just recently learned this. I didn't know that stealth was actually a thing in his game. I thought as soon as I saw a patrol it was on like donkey Kong 😂😂😂
I like the idea of the negative modifiers being tied to on the ground objectives that you can destroy to remove the effect. It lets them be the mix up that they're supposed to be but also lets you get rewarded for playing the side objectives.
You just have to know how to fight the bots, a lot of people just run shotguns and get bogged down fighting an endless horde of bots. Atleast in my experience engaging bots from a distance and knowing when to disengage makes a world of difference.
It was a sneaky update The sharp chargers an elite charger more armor better aoe on the stomps, they also added a second loadout for the automaton hulk thats shooty not melee/flamethower old ones called bruiser hulk now Regular chargers and bruiser hulks are heavy when you ping it sharp chargers and the other hulk are elites
Bots and Bugs both, difficulty 8 had been my default when maxing out my ship, but difficulty 5 just for vibing is my go to; been doing more helldives now but extraction gets a bit crazy
I personally lost fuel for bugs. The hunter's poison stun + gang ups and the bile spewers one shots, the bugs got annoying after a bit. Don't get me wrong they can still be a lot of fun, but the bots hit that late game difficulty sweet spot that I need. They're overall tougher, that if you play as if you were against bugs. I can't overstate enough just how essential is to use cover and aim for the head (even diff. 9 is very much doable without stealth if you use these 2 simple tactics). The mighty devastators fall like flies if you just stand behind a rock and shoot their heads. Tanks and towers fall easily with 2 impact grenades to the back. Dropships can actually get destroyed before dropping troops, while for bugs the second a bug exhales one gas molecule the breach can't be stopped. In other words if you just play bots a bit more carefully, they can be even easier than bugs. Although if you enjoy going Rambo on your enemies then by all means, the bugs are always there for you.
To make bots easier use the anti material rifle. It two shots hulks if you shoot the eye, kills scout striders from the front (shooting the crotch area gives a chance at one shotting, shooting the main shield 3 shots), and can one shot everything else. It also makes the heavy devastators (shield guys) trivial as you can just shoot them in the face with high zoom. It can also kill the large cannon towers if you shoot the weak spot enough times. Just remember to bring anti-crowd and anti-tank stratagems. Or all of one. You play with a team so being a specialist works too. The spear is also good against bots as you can destroy factories and the other small enemy structures from a distance. Supposedly jammers too, but I have never got the spear to lock on to a jammer which is very annoying
Make sure when you tell people to use the AMR let them know the scope is misaligned, and you have to touch the outside top left of the reticle to your target 👍🏻
I don't know if it's part of the "meta" but the incendiary breaker is SO fun against bugs. Just shreds everything small and helps against armored enemies too because it sets them on fire.
Spear is fun but uts lockon is really annoying sometimes. Can 1 shot bile titans of the missle hits em in the head, can also 1 shot automotom sniper turrets and fabricators for some reasom but sniping automoton bases from far away is real fun
If you struggle with the bots, I really recommend the Ballistic Shield with any heavy armor that has the Fortified effect. You can take a couple rockets without dying most times.
I completly agree with you when it comes to the bots. The modifiers for the bots just suck and are unfun. The bots in general just blow to fight in my opinion
Fighting the bots past level 6 is beyond annoying to me XD Mainly cause they INSTANTLY call for reinforcements and, on top of that, their bullets (As well as ours) ends up alerting more bots across the field/map. So now you have a swarm of bots for getting seen by one bot. It doesn't help that they literally teleport to your location at times just from spawning in. The cherry on top is it feels like they never miss. While I hate the little stalkers, I'd much rather get stun locked by them over 6 different bots shooting me with a laser. Overall, the bugs give me a challenge and it's just more fun.
It's difficult with controller. I had to change the default layout and am missing at least melee, which doesn't fit any more. But anyway, controller input is really good in HD2. Especially with an Elite.
I must insist zanny I know this was a few weeks ago and you can use whatever you want but the expendable recoilless and quasar cannon can all one shot a charger to the head the railgun is only really good for bots now
the final gun in the second warbond makes the bots so ez, i feel like the main problem is the devastators and you just need to shoot them in the head and they die one shot.
I play this game with my friends occasionally, but I usually fight bugs on extreme mode occasionally, but my friends decided to fight automatons on Impossible or helldive mode That sh*r got me traumatize that I rather shoot bugs on impossible then terminators
I’m making my own mixtape for the game and am requesting any recommendations. So far I’ve got paranoid, paint it black, house of the rising sun, can’t stop, some doom music and a few others. Thanks.
im on my last thing i can buy (not super credit stuff): 75 medal warbond item, flexible reinforce budget. after that, i will have nothing more to buy at all aside from superstore items. this is what your fighting for
Does anyone know what armour that shmeppers guy is wearing and where to get it? you can see it at 0:43 and i'm pretty sure it's not in any of the battle passes. looks sick!
Zanny: “is this a teaser for the vehicles they will add?”
Helldiver: “NoT TOdAy!!”
Beat me to it
I love that canonically, England on Super Earth is an irradiated wasteland. It’s just like real life.
As English I can confirm it's an irradiated wasteland
As someone from england I can also confirm there's no hope here
Yeah it is my three eyed goldfish can attest to that lol
The odd thing is on some of the propoganda videos of super earth lights are see there for some reason even though its meant to be a dead zone
@@hti5795 sounds like treasonous propaganda to me
Zanny, those clankers aren't killing themselves, you need to come help us shut them down democratically
I personally love fighting the bots. Bugs are so mindless it kinda gets boring but winning against the bots makes me feel like I'm him
Same. Fighting the bugs feels like I'm running to the grocery store and dealing with a bunch of flies or smth.
Fighting the bots makes me feel like task force 141
@@the_rumblemaster1375what’s the reference?
@@billjoe8734Call of Duty, the og Modern Warfare games
also the new quasar cannon makes chargers so easy as long as you have someone be a dedicated anti charger anti titan. and clear out the chaff for them, an infinitely reusable pretty quickly recharging EAT makes chargers just melt.
Bro thinks he's him, the john helldivers
1:09 Xbox recently made a community post that said “hell welcomes all” and there was a little explosion animation and I was like “oh cool hell divers coming to Xbox” but it was Diablo 4 coming to game pass 😂
As a playstation player, I'll keep calling for ODST reinforcements.
Lmfao ouch... whoever came up with that promo is an 🤬sshole 😂😂😂
I am so glad you have multiple channels Zanny. You are spoiling us with all the Helldivers content you're putting out, and I love it.
Damn the uncharted guy is fast
Day 1 of acknowledging the uncharted guy is fast
@@ThatOneGuy_Jamesday one of acknowledging the guy who acknowledged that the uncharted guy was fast
You know canonically bugs are like bees that got out of control to produce oil, so helldivers in the bug sector are farmers while the bots are where the real war is
A tip for the Spear, it has a lot more utility on bot missions with all their buildings. There are only 3 things on bugs that it can truly target, being Spore nests, Chargers, and Bile Titans, but Chargers move around too much, so you really have to shoot first before it notices you
You hear Spiderman raving about democracy, I hear Sasuke Uchiha
Ben Tennyson for me
Watching this vid at 1am is a mood. I'm warily turning my volume down every time Zanny shouts so I don't wake up my family.
Damn where you at? Its like 10 in the morning where i am😂
@@dylann2649 I'm in Australia.
@@thejoabearare bile titans the size of your regular spiders?
Dont let your fear control you! We need you on the Automaton front!
Zanny stop putting treason into your titles
The bots are just too fun for me. The feeling of chaos that the pressure fire and explosions bring is incredible. It feels like an actual battlefield where the tide of battle could change by one well placed stratagem strike or an enemy drop-ship deployment.
Guys we need more troops on the bot front the bugs are a resource for super earth the real war is against the bots
Where were the bug cowards when Ubanea fell???
That’s what I’m saying. SPILL OIL
the spear locks onto any heavy enemy. issue is that the lock on is currently EXTREMELY unreliable and it will fail you more often than working as intended. sometimes it also just refuses to oneshot the enemies its supposed to be able to because the guided rocket hits in the wrong spot. its good when it functions as intended but i'd say wait until they fix it.
I've never used the SPEAR but I've been told by people that do that it is actually very reliable, it just won't target anything closer than 60 meters which obviously sucks. On top of that even when it does lock on it doesn't reliably hit weakspots so your usually using more ammo than you would with well placed shots with Recoiless, EAT, or Quasar for the rocket launcher with the least ammo. I've definitely seen clips of the thing just refusing to work which apparently is due to small obstructions like foliage or buildings that don't look like they should block LOS on something as big as a Bile Titan but for some reason do anyway. IDK, thing definitely needs some kind of buff, with lock on consistency and either ammo, accuracy , or damage to compensate for never hitting the head.
Zanny : "I can input that call in my sleep"
Also Zanny : *gets the code wrong*
"Up Down Right Right Right" made my kidneys hurt.
I fucking love fighting bots, it's so fun and the challenge of the enemies feels more real, compared to randomly getting insta killed by a dead silent charger or bile spewer
zanny: this is just gonna be a chill mission, i'll just bring a railgun and cluster bomb...
happy easter everyone!
One tip for using the railgun against chargers, it is better to aim for the head now. Easier to hit and faster to kill
That was a Charger Behemoth, they’ve always been there. They were the boss target in medium missions and they’re always in evacuation missions.
3:45 hey mom I’m in a zanny video
Christ bless you, MORE HELL DIVERS 2!!!!
bots get much easier when you dont engage everybody, issue is explaining this to teamates
Yeah, a lot of the bug fighters or a lot of the divers in general don’t seem to realize that the bugs and bots require completely different strategies and styles to do them 😅
Tbh I just recently learned this. I didn't know that stealth was actually a thing in his game. I thought as soon as I saw a patrol it was on like donkey Kong 😂😂😂
YESSSSS FOR DEMOCRACY MORE HELL DIVERS
Going through a lot of shit now but you always make me smile and laugh zanny, you bring laughs to millions
I like the idea of the negative modifiers being tied to on the ground objectives that you can destroy to remove the effect. It lets them be the mix up that they're supposed to be but also lets you get rewarded for playing the side objectives.
You just have to know how to fight the bots, a lot of people just run shotguns and get bogged down fighting an endless horde of bots. Atleast in my experience engaging bots from a distance and knowing when to disengage makes a world of difference.
That bile shrugged off everything!? Gigachad bile
>I love the slugger
They watch the videos. You're the reason my favourite weapon got nerfed into the fucking ground.
“i love the slugger im a slugger main” 😔
It was a sneaky update
The sharp chargers an elite charger more armor better aoe on the stomps, they also added a second loadout for the automaton hulk thats shooty not melee/flamethower old ones called bruiser hulk now
Regular chargers and bruiser hulks are heavy when you ping it sharp chargers and the other hulk are elites
Bots is where the war is, with the bugs that's just resource gathering
One day you’ll win a rock paper scissor match.
Good news, Zanny! The final push against the automatons is underway. Time to eradicate those clankers once and for all! FOR LIBERTY!!!
Bots are so overtuned rn and i love it
Bots and Bugs both, difficulty 8 had been my default when maxing out my ship, but difficulty 5 just for vibing is my go to; been doing more helldives now but extraction gets a bit crazy
My default is level 7 bots.enough thrill and not too overwhelming
I personally lost fuel for bugs. The hunter's poison stun + gang ups and the bile spewers one shots, the bugs got annoying after a bit. Don't get me wrong they can still be a lot of fun, but the bots hit that late game difficulty sweet spot that I need. They're overall tougher, that if you play as if you were against bugs. I can't overstate enough just how essential is to use cover and aim for the head (even diff. 9 is very much doable without stealth if you use these 2 simple tactics). The mighty devastators fall like flies if you just stand behind a rock and shoot their heads. Tanks and towers fall easily with 2 impact grenades to the back. Dropships can actually get destroyed before dropping troops, while for bugs the second a bug exhales one gas molecule the breach can't be stopped.
In other words if you just play bots a bit more carefully, they can be even easier than bugs. Although if you enjoy going Rambo on your enemies then by all means, the bugs are always there for you.
I don’t even play the game, but I enjoy keeping up to date on Super Earths war effort.
To make bots easier use the anti material rifle. It two shots hulks if you shoot the eye, kills scout striders from the front (shooting the crotch area gives a chance at one shotting, shooting the main shield 3 shots), and can one shot everything else. It also makes the heavy devastators (shield guys) trivial as you can just shoot them in the face with high zoom. It can also kill the large cannon towers if you shoot the weak spot enough times.
Just remember to bring anti-crowd and anti-tank stratagems. Or all of one. You play with a team so being a specialist works too.
The spear is also good against bots as you can destroy factories and the other small enemy structures from a distance. Supposedly jammers too, but I have never got the spear to lock on to a jammer which is very annoying
Make sure when you tell people to use the AMR let them know the scope is misaligned, and you have to touch the outside top left of the reticle to your target 👍🏻
I don't know if it's part of the "meta" but the incendiary breaker is SO fun against bugs. Just shreds everything small and helps against armored enemies too because it sets them on fire.
I'll bring me trusty guard dog. Guard dog tries to kill him immediately.
Spear is fun but uts lockon is really annoying sometimes. Can 1 shot bile titans of the missle hits em in the head, can also 1 shot automotom sniper turrets and fabricators for some reasom but sniping automoton bases from far away is real fun
I was there when Creek got liberated, finally all brave warriors who dived for the cause will rest in peace now.
Wake up babe - another Zanny Helldivers videos has just dropped
FU for the "eyes up guardian " flashbacks
Now that’s more of a meme than a request
be me: fighting the bots for a week straight: “lil pee pee boy”
ZANNY WHAT ARE YOU DOING FIGHTING THE BUGS GET ON THE FRONTLINES AND HELP YOUR BROTHERS OUT WITH THE BOTS
If you struggle with the bots, I really recommend the Ballistic Shield with any heavy armor that has the Fortified effect. You can take a couple rockets without dying most times.
10:02 oh my god an actually useful tip
5:00 "up down right right right"
three zanny...
Increasing medal costs for gear in the war bonds makes it more rewarding and makes you play the game more. I like it.
I completly agree with you when it comes to the bots. The modifiers for the bots just suck and are unfun. The bots in general just blow to fight in my opinion
Is this an independent thought crime i hear?
@@nicholas8449 nah, it's a "the bugs are just 100x times more fun to fight" thought.
They should bring positiv modivirs like sample mania (60 common ones)
Fighting the bots past level 6 is beyond annoying to me XD Mainly cause they INSTANTLY call for reinforcements and, on top of that, their bullets (As well as ours) ends up alerting more bots across the field/map. So now you have a swarm of bots for getting seen by one bot. It doesn't help that they literally teleport to your location at times just from spawning in. The cherry on top is it feels like they never miss. While I hate the little stalkers, I'd much rather get stun locked by them over 6 different bots shooting me with a laser.
Overall, the bugs give me a challenge and it's just more fun.
3:09 I hear Yuri as Sasuke instead of Spiderman, makes it even funnier lmao
Josh Keaton is my Spider-man
It's difficult with controller. I had to change the default layout and am missing at least melee, which doesn't fit any more. But anyway, controller input is really good in HD2. Especially with an Elite.
I'm doing my part for the major order by starting bug planet missions, getting a full squad and then taking them to Draupnir
I must insist zanny I know this was a few weeks ago and you can use whatever you want but the expendable recoilless and quasar cannon can all one shot a charger to the head the railgun is only really good for bots now
Orbital laser - Eagle Airstrike, Shield or Rover and the Quasar is THE loadout
What about orbital rail cannon? Or is the juice not worth the squeeze?
@@TheForbiddenOne55 don't need one with the Quasar
Lvl 6 bug mission zanny….and I thought your midi-chlorinan count was high
the final gun in the second warbond makes the bots so ez, i feel like the main problem is the devastators and you just need to shoot them in the head and they die one shot.
FIGHT THE BOTS ZANNY!
The Samples
Zanny which game is better deep rock or helldiver
i love how everyone just collectively call "bile" as short for bile titan despite other bile terminid variants
THE BEST ZANNYYYY OHH HYEAHHHH
I play this game with my friends occasionally, but I usually fight bugs on extreme mode occasionally, but my friends decided to fight automatons on Impossible or helldive mode
That sh*r got me traumatize that I rather shoot bugs on impossible then terminators
Bro we need help on the bot frontline. I get bots suck but it needs to be liberated
7:10 He literally ate that 500.
If he thinks the bots are annoying just wait until the devs finally put in the Illumine.
so…the fun enemies.
I love not having to deal with the bots. Its almost impossible to keep your samples fighting them
Helldivers fashion contest when?
Dripdivers if I'm so inclined?
Zanny are you playing the "stellar blade" demo. Look like the right game for you
Dromos ever loyal
He is risen!
Zanny. You need to unlock the sickle
I just got finished one some helldive missions and there not all that hard if you have stratagems for big guys and the arch thrower for little guys
I’m making my own mixtape for the game and am requesting any recommendations. So far I’ve got paranoid, paint it black, house of the rising sun, can’t stop, some doom music and a few others. Thanks.
For Democracy and the ZanClan!!!!
Let’s gooooooooo
im on my last thing i can buy (not super credit stuff): 75 medal warbond item, flexible reinforce budget. after that, i will have nothing more to buy at all aside from superstore items. this is what your fighting for
Same, I have one helmet and then it's just a grind to max out medals
when you streaming again Zan man its been 2 weeks. Also what time do you usually stream
Up down right right right? Does Zanny not know the 500kg call in?
Aim for legs with the Slugger also the one shot anti tank rocket one shot head shots chargers.
SHOUTOUT TO ALL MY SLUGGERS 🗣🗣🗣
Day I don't remember what of waiting for baldur's gate 3
Met a guy in game named Zannie. So dissapointed it wasn't Zanny. Zannie was a super cool dude though.
Does anyone know what armour that shmeppers guy is wearing and where to get it? you can see it at 0:43 and i'm pretty sure it's not in any of the battle passes. looks sick!
Superstore, you buy with supercredits
Bugs for fun bots for sport.
I named my ship pride of pride
I love you zanny
So is this all we get now
So this is why we haven't reached Tibit yet