Typhon vs Rosa argument, while valid, is basically Exusia vs Ash argument all over. Both can be used for boss shreding but one is more suited for a farming role than burst dmg unit
The funny thing, golem stage on this event show that both of them can work together (without stalling operator). Rosa hold golem in place while Typhon kill both of them.
I remember from some comparisons when Typhon came out on CN, that Rosa S2 has better burst than Typhon S2, but Typhon S2 beats Rosa S2 in sustained damage. Their S3 aren't really comparable
“TS2 beats RS2 in sustained dmg” is highly subjective for two main reasons: 1st it depends on the targets, Rosa has additional dmg against W3 and above enemies so it isn't really suited for trashmobs. Typhoon needs to hit a single enemy 5 times in order to get her full DPS potential which is utter waste due to overkill, loss of the scaling between targets, and underperformance over elites who barley get scratched by it. 2nd Typhoon S2 has infinite duration, in order to exceed the hypothetical highest potential dmg of Rosa S2 she would need to hitting one enemy for well over 5 damn minutes.
I kinda like how we can distinguish Rosa's and Typhon's role; the former is good for crowds with a spice of consistent cc via S3 while the latter good for single boss killing or 1-2 mobs. Also nice to see some Caper little showcase there xD
Damn everyone's been loving the PGR ost's lately 😭I've seen so many AK CC's put at least 1 in their videos also dope vid as always man, manifesting all my pulls for Typhon today
It's just because of Storn doesn't know any other banger game OSTs (uncultured). He deadass used so many PGR OSTs lately and sometimes it's always the same one theme
I once saw a comment that said "a good doctor didn't compare them but combined", and something like this is really fun to watch and prove that HG still in their line and not just "kill" the same-type operators just because they're old or unrelevant.
They may have giant harpoon cannons and comically sized magical bows, but i have an arsenal of NERF blaster, and we all know that it's NERF or nothing so i win. I powercreep both of them and everyone else (Roomba doesn't count. It's an ancient diety feared even by the mightiest of gods)
I don’t know what Typhon everyone is talking about here. I will pull in the banner for the sake of the cat-milf Santalla. Postscript: I’ve had Rosa for a long time, and with her skin. I'm waiting for the Russian voice acting to be delivered to her.
Typhon is better cause her s3 is able to ignore a lot of the buffs to hp and def that elites get on cc tags, as for IS4 I don’t play the mode a lot so i don’t really know but from what I see on CN she is the best sniper to take inside is4
the problem is that toddi doesn't have a good multi target or AOE skill like rosa or typhon so she might suffer when dealing with the tankier elites before they get to the blue box
The weird thing is, when Typhon first released on cn people said that Typhon powercreept Thorn. A guard. A melee 2 block guard. Edit : so appearantly i've been using Thorn the wrong way. I usually used him as a blocker and secondary dps. His regen talent help his survivability inbetween waves. But appearantly i shouldnt do that and should only focus on him being a raw main dps.
The only thing thorns does better is tank and heal, and no one uses that because he’s still quite squishy. In a normal map where both have tiles to be placed on, typhon does more damage, and ultimately that’s most important.
@@georgezhang1573Arguably more stall too, her stun chance vs his "able to block but for many enemies would rather not" In the end main thing thorns keeps for himself is sometimes reaching out to hit things a ranged unit might not, but he's got more competition for that these days too.
Rosa S3, Burst damage + Stun/bind? over few seconds, low CD, much better against high threat foes (Which is generally heavy weight, another + for Rosa). Typhoon S2 or S3, sustained damage, however also works against lots of mobs coming in groups. Better in laneholding. Simple, and I don't think it's a power creep issue, when those two units provide 2 different role. HOWEVER, do note that Rosa needs her module badly. Typhoon is more budget to use, because she already works very well even without her module.
Rosa's s3 doesn't stun, and its not better in any way, it just does different thing compared to Typhons kit. Typhon is better at killing, and she actually does need her module almost as much as Rosa does. Nice try but not really.
@@Engitsu Yeah, true, Rosa it does not stun, I just wrongly remembered it that way. Are you saying Rosa dealing 20k~24K damage in a 5 sec burst to multiple units (+bind) is not better in different way? Sometimes, player don't understand, kill speed matters. It is the reason why Vigna is good, Reed is not, kill speed. It's not like Rosa is being used to kills foes with 200~300k HP (Better use other unit for this).
@@Engitsu Typhoon dmg, it's enough to run her without module. She has the power to take down Tankies, this is without module. Something Rosa is troubled WITHOUT HER MODULE. It is a good one, not just a nice try. And I think you read wrongly, Where did I say/Imply, Rosa and Typoon are the same.
I tried to use Typhon (without module because her trust was 0%) on CE-6 to compare against Rosa and she could barely kill the crushers with skill 2 on, but couldn't get all of them because the skill didn't last long enough. Rosa on the other hand did huge damage and killed every crusher within one skill use (but Rosa had module so I'll test Typhon again when I get her module).
I don't really get why people say she powercreeps her, she is a pure DPS meanwhile Rosa is a binder. And i don't see why anyone would have taken Rosa as DPS into a stage when there are countless better DPS
@@eigengrau7698 in end game you can make such OP operators combos, you can kill most things before they make a step, so yeah, meta users look mostly at dps potential
I use Rosa S2 as long DPS skill, like semi AFK, its very useful. Have alternative, seriously? Mages with same dps has very short distance, other snipers too, may be except Rosmontis S2, but she cannot attack flying targets. What are you talking about, man 🤷
@@lordent I think he meant that Thypoon has just better DPS with S3 and better DPS with S2... Just looking at damage numbers she is flat better than Rose
the main Rosa's advantage is that her skills is not auto and can be used in concrete situation. Also her skill 2 do more damage than Typhon in short period.
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Typhon vs Rosa argument, while valid, is basically Exusia vs Ash argument all over. Both can be used for boss shreding but one is more suited for a farming role than burst dmg unit
“Farming role”
Bro this ain’t fgo
Similar as the Silverash vs Młynar argument. One is more for utility and the other raw power.
The funny thing, golem stage on this event show that both of them can work together (without stalling operator). Rosa hold golem in place while Typhon kill both of them.
Idiot, farming role means afk opperator
But Ash can't really work on stun immune enemies, which arr most of the bosses
They powercreep me 😺
The only correct answer
Powercreep?
I call this DIFFICULTY TWEAK
WULULULULULULULULULULU
I remember from some comparisons when Typhon came out on CN, that Rosa S2 has better burst than Typhon S2, but Typhon S2 beats Rosa S2 in sustained damage. Their S3 aren't really comparable
“TS2 beats RS2 in sustained dmg” is highly subjective for two main reasons:
1st it depends on the targets, Rosa has additional dmg against W3 and above enemies so it isn't really suited for trashmobs. Typhoon needs to hit a single enemy 5 times in order to get her full DPS potential which is utter waste due to overkill, loss of the scaling between targets, and underperformance over elites who barley get scratched by it.
2nd Typhoon S2 has infinite duration, in order to exceed the hypothetical highest potential dmg of Rosa S2 she would need to hitting one enemy for well over 5 damn minutes.
I kinda like how we can distinguish Rosa's and Typhon's role; the former is good for crowds with a spice of consistent cc via S3 while the latter good for single boss killing or 1-2 mobs.
Also nice to see some Caper little showcase there xD
That was a great use of the blue box! Anyone who hadn't played that stage would think the game was easy by watching this video!
The Roomba still win
Rooma showcase
Damn everyone's been loving the PGR ost's lately 😭I've seen so many AK CC's put at least 1 in their videos also dope vid as always man, manifesting all my pulls for Typhon today
Wishing you a first 10 pull Typhon!
@@file17462 Thanks sm man 🙏you too
Pgr?
@@sleepydoctor4344 punishing gray raven
It's just because of Storn doesn't know any other banger game OSTs (uncultured). He deadass used so many PGR OSTs lately and sometimes it's always the same one theme
I once saw a comment that said "a good doctor didn't compare them but combined", and something like this is really fun to watch and prove that HG still in their line and not just "kill" the same-type operators just because they're old or unrelevant.
They may have giant harpoon cannons and comically sized magical bows, but i have an arsenal of NERF blaster, and we all know that it's NERF or nothing so i win. I powercreep both of them and everyone else
(Roomba doesn't count. It's an ancient diety feared even by the mightiest of gods)
Every added besieger is a joy for us to deploy
Nice Caper showcase too. What's your thoughts on her and the Loopshooter class as a whole?
Caper Arknights is the best thing to ever happen to this game
Well I don't have the Russian bear with cannon, so definitely going to pull for gigantic bow girl..
Not just Russian bear with cannon, but a schoolgirl too, like a certain drummer in a band themed after stars or a mad former actress with a fox mask
Just use both, sniperknights forever
as someone who clear the s level with sniper knight i agree
god damn I love that PGR soundtrack so much, please I want typhon so badly already, been saving from mumu banner...
edit: 150 pulls kill me
Definitely the stultifera navis cleaner powercreep them all
Caper powercreeps all snipers. :D
🛐
I love her "Relax, relax" :D
I don’t know what Typhon everyone is talking about here. I will pull in the banner for the sake of the cat-milf Santalla.
Postscript: I’ve had Rosa for a long time, and with her skin. I'm waiting for the Russian voice acting to be delivered to her.
Hmmm, considering future content, how is rosa on advanced content like IS4 or CC?
Typhon is better cause her s3 is able to ignore a lot of the buffs to hp and def that elites get on cc tags, as for IS4 I don’t play the mode a lot so i don’t really know but from what I see on CN she is the best sniper to take inside is4
@@Storn_ who are you talking about in the last part there, typhon or rosa. Like, there's no way my girl rosa is the best pick for is4 isn't she
@@maihung5512 Literally the whole sentence is about typhon
@@sZaderr the question is about rosa, you can't really blame me for not getting that
@@maihung5512 Nah it's 100% your fault. Just take the L. It's Joever for ya.
Unironically, I think Toddifons would be pretty good for that prison map as well lol.
the problem is that toddi doesn't have a good multi target or AOE skill like rosa or typhon so she might suffer when dealing with the tankier elites before they get to the blue box
How many time did you try, don't lie.
I lost count after like 15 tries 🗿
The weird thing is, when Typhon first released on cn people said that Typhon powercreept Thorn. A guard. A melee 2 block guard.
Edit : so appearantly i've been using Thorn the wrong way. I usually used him as a blocker and secondary dps. His regen talent help his survivability inbetween waves. But appearantly i shouldnt do that and should only focus on him being a raw main dps.
In the sense of having a infinite skill that’s good for afk her s2 is a lot better than thorns
Oh she absolutely did powercreep him in the sense of what and how both does their normal mobkilling job lol
The only thing thorns does better is tank and heal, and no one uses that because he’s still quite squishy. In a normal map where both have tiles to be placed on, typhon does more damage, and ultimately that’s most important.
@@georgezhang1573Arguably more stall too, her stun chance vs his "able to block but for many enemies would rather not"
In the end main thing thorns keeps for himself is sometimes reaching out to hit things a ranged unit might not, but he's got more competition for that these days too.
Yeah quite weird, because she actually did powercrept him.
Rosa S3, Burst damage + Stun/bind? over few seconds, low CD, much better against high threat foes (Which is generally heavy weight, another + for Rosa).
Typhoon S2 or S3, sustained damage, however also works against lots of mobs coming in groups. Better in laneholding.
Simple, and I don't think it's a power creep issue, when those two units provide 2 different role.
HOWEVER, do note that Rosa needs her module badly.
Typhoon is more budget to use, because she already works very well even without her module.
Rosa's s3 doesn't stun, and its not better in any way, it just does different thing compared to Typhons kit. Typhon is better at killing, and she actually does need her module almost as much as Rosa does. Nice try but not really.
@@Engitsu Yeah, true, Rosa it does not stun, I just wrongly remembered it that way.
Are you saying Rosa dealing 20k~24K damage in a 5 sec burst to multiple units (+bind) is not better in different way?
Sometimes, player don't understand, kill speed matters.
It is the reason why Vigna is good, Reed is not, kill speed.
It's not like Rosa is being used to kills foes with 200~300k HP (Better use other unit for this).
@@Engitsu Typhoon dmg, it's enough to run her without module. She has the power to take down Tankies, this is without module.
Something Rosa is troubled WITHOUT HER MODULE.
It is a good one, not just a nice try.
And I think you read wrongly,
Where did I say/Imply, Rosa and Typoon are the same.
@@DisIngRaM i had a stroke trying to read that shit, jesus
@@Engitsu good
I tried to use Typhon (without module because her trust was 0%) on CE-6 to compare against Rosa and she could barely kill the crushers with skill 2 on, but couldn't get all of them because the skill didn't last long enough. Rosa on the other hand did huge damage and killed every crusher within one skill use (but Rosa had module so I'll test Typhon again when I get her module).
U can just unequip the module
We going for a last resort.
Even though Typhon is better in some aspects, I won’t replace my favorite bear
Typhon my bea
Based on waifu level, rosa cant even stand beside her
did they removed the bug the token thing will disappear if they died in the blue box?
Yes
Can i see more of her skin? Does the skin have animation art?
It doesnt
I don't really get why people say she powercreeps her, she is a pure DPS meanwhile Rosa is a binder.
And i don't see why anyone would have taken Rosa as DPS into a stage when there are countless better DPS
Well looking at stats and talents they are very similar, looking at skills, so the important part, you are absolutely correct
Well most of meta users are about dmg, mechanic comes after
@@eigengrau7698 in end game you can make such OP operators combos, you can kill most things before they make a step, so yeah, meta users look mostly at dps potential
I use Rosa S2 as long DPS skill, like semi AFK, its very useful. Have alternative, seriously? Mages with same dps has very short distance, other snipers too, may be except Rosmontis S2, but she cannot attack flying targets. What are you talking about, man 🤷
@@lordent I think he meant that Thypoon has just better DPS with S3 and better DPS with S2... Just looking at damage numbers she is flat better than Rose
Impressive.
who is the 12 cost sniper in the second run please?
Caper
Ayo karenina!
I have an m6 mod3 Rosa in my acc and she rips heavily armored enemies like paper
Both is good enjoyers : Yes
Imo, typhon n ray powercreep Pozy, right.........right 😂?
Is this another texter vs kirito again?
well I dont think they Powerceeps each other but work as a great Team with each other
The correct answer is Toland for sure
They power creep anything above 3weight
Typhon is an operator that i would've absolutely grind my op on. But I've made a promise to only have 1 raised beseiger. Im forever loyal y'all.
I get wanting to diversify your upgraded operators, but... what?
@@doomclasher9287 I'm a Rosa simp......that's it.
the main Rosa's advantage is that her skills is not auto and can be used in concrete situation. Also her skill 2 do more damage than Typhon in short period.
Typhon's skills aren't auto either?
@@Ezekiel_Allium second is unlimited duration after second phase
@@ao4474 that's different than being auto activated and I don't really see how that's less advantageous.
is sparkle a must pull
Damn you are lost brother. Btw, if you are lacking of harmony then pull her
That a wrong game mate… But at least same CV for JP
Rosa is more beautiful
typhon is more cool.
Just use both?
Rosa is better 👍
neither
Typhon is a sidegrade of rosa.