I honestly hate my life sometimes. I hate that my family is poor and we live in the crazy drug infested chaotic area we live in. For years we have been praying for a Financial miracle so we can move away and have peace but after 20 years of praying I have finally accepted that it most likely is not the will of god and now I keep my hope in the beauty and promise of heaven.
I don’t know what is going on with your family, but there are three things a Christian needs to do to before God will bless your finances. The first is tithing. The Second is giving offerings. The third is living with in a budget. Several Christian pastors have taught on this subject. You can look up Robert Morris or Rick Warren. Have you tried doing these things? Until you do them, your finances will not be blessed. I don’t know if God will give you enough money to move, but things in your finances will definitely change for the better. Are you sure your family hasn’t just been under a curse this whole time, because you are not doing the things I have mentioned? God cannot bless your finances until you do them.
Shalom! Hey man, I strongly suggest seeking more wisdom on wealth, because this teaching here can be very dangerous, because he’s not addressing the contexts and themes surrounding these scriptures. How so? Easily read further in the passage of 1 Timothy 6 (verse 17) and see what Pauls says about the rich later on. An ungodly desire for anything is wicked. If wealth is wicked, then that would mean GOD is wicked for giving Solomon wealth and also giving us the power to produce wealth Deut 8:18. That’s why I’ve realized it’s important to do your own reading even though we seek more guided wisdom/ thoughts from these preachers of the WORD. Jesus teaching on the rich man in summary was on the basis of self-righteousness. I hope this gave you all some encouragement. 🙏🏽 May the peace of Jesus Christ be with you all!
You have a defeatist mentality. Don’t listen to this video. John Piper is a bigot. If no Christians became wealthy who would support local churches and missions? What sin is in your life that’s creating a barrier between you and a blessing? I highly suggest you go on a fast and pray to God, asking for a breakthrough.
What people fail to understand about money (and this is coming from someone grew up poor And now makes a 6 figures a year) is that when you pray for God to fix a financial situation he almost always will bring you answered prayer in seed form. Meaning there will be an open door that you will need to walk through and take action and put effort in To fix your situation. When I was going through financial struggle I got my heart right with God and started asking him what were the little tiny steps that I could take. He didn't show me the full path but he showed me one step and then I took that and then he showed me another step and then I took that. You break out of poverty Taking advantage of the resources that God has given you. I.e. When you pray for a cake God is gonna give you milk flour and eggs and it's your job to bake them. God gave you a mind he gave you the Internet he gave you books, he gave you so many resources that you can use to learn about how to improve your financial situation. You wouldn't pray God help me to become a doctor and not study about medicine. Don't pray God Help my financial situation and then not study about money and how to acquire it. Money enables me to be a blessing to others. Such as last night my Bible study group went out to dinner and I covered the whole tab without anyone knowing as an act of love so God could get all the credit. Money is a tool that you can use to build God's kingdom or build yourself up don't hate on money it's not going to improve your life one bit by hating it.
Wealth is a test from God. It is also a blessing from God but not for you only but for all those needy people who try but still don't have enough and never ask for help.
👋🏾 One of the prosperity preachers favorite verse in the Bible is 3John 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. Prosper in the Greek is Euodoō (G2137) compound of G2095=Eu, meaning good or well. And G3598 Hodos meaning “Way” or “road” Prosper is not our word prosper and not our word health. The word prosper is Euodoō , it’s constructed from Eu (well) and hodos (way). Put the word together it’s Euodoō in the original Greek Bible. Hodos is the common Greek word for “way”. It’s the same word Jesus used when he said, “I am the way” in John 14:6. And Eu means “well”. We see that on our word Eulogy. A eulogy is when you stand at a funeral and say well logos (words), well words over someone who died. Jesus said “I am the way (Hodos). He said there was a narrow Hodos (way) and a broad Hodos (way. So what John was wishing for gaius was the well way which is Christ. Also health is in the Greek “hugiano” meaning healthy words, uncorrupt words Prosperity preachers use that to say God is wishing for us to prosper and have money and physical health. It has nothing to do with money and physical health.
@@teachmetruth3539 would you say God doesn't care about our physical health? If not, why, and what verses support that argument? And if He does, then what verses should be used to support that idea? Thank you
@@teachmetruth3539 Well pointed. "and if children, then heirs-heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together." Romans 8:17
Poverty kills directly and indirectly. my mother worked herself to death with 2 jobs sometimes living on 3 hours sleep. she had to do it to pay for her mortgage etc. her body eventualy crumbled. she had no time to look after her health properly then ended up with the cruel ALS. Anyway she had a close relationship with the lord. Before she got sick though there were times she wished and wished she had a bit of wealth to fix things. wealth can be a life saver too!! not always a curse!! i find that wealth is most very often in the wrong hands of the wrong people
God respects the poor above all, physically, spiritually and financially so anyone working two jobs is not being wise, God said don't worry about what you should eat and drink and wear, it is not poverty that destroys people but lack of knowledge but then again sorry for your mother and may God bless for eternity you brother.
That is the EXACT reason why I decided not to pursue the CPA license anymore and to take a low salary and a low reputation after being unemployed for so long. Praise God for humbling me over the years. As a young man in my mid-twenties, I truly desire to use the gifts that God has graciously blessed me to bless others and provide for others in need. That is the right thing to do according to the Word of God. Matthew 25:31-46, 1 Timothy 6:6-10.
God may have gifted you to be a CPA, please read Deut 8. There is nothing wrong with having a career and acquiring wealth as God gives it. Don’t set your heart on wealth set your heart on glorifying God in your work and the wealth He gives you if He does, do rightly with it.
Hey John! Can you please explain your perspective? I'm interested since I'm studying to be an accountant and as you know getting the CPA license opens many doors. I'd like to hear your opinion
@@ChristOurKing Its like this, this is how I see it. God can best be seen in nature. Evil and satan, prince of this world, can best be seen in worldly pursuits, the system, cities, an utter perversion of the natural creation. In biblical times, wealth and abundance was more fair and easy to come by, nature would multiply for you, your cattle, your sheep, your grain. Dig a well, you have much water. Have family and family can multiply and be productive. Have some land, build houses adobe style, or with local timber. But in these times, the NWO satan system of money is strong. It is illegal to live off grid, truly off grid. You must have jobs, titles, money, taxes, insurance, cars, tools, etc. All of that is made in factories where humans are divided from themselves and family. And to get those modern resources the earth is being polluted and destroyed. I also was down this financial path, and tech path when I was younger. Mid 30s now. Gods wealth is not in materials or money or fame or prestige, it is in rightnousness, integrity, love, rich in spirit, abundant in family and companionship, the peace of knowing god. We do not need to "own" things, the forest is for all of us to enjoy. I have found few things to be an honest was of earning money these days for many complicated philosophical reasons, I am not judging, but for myself, with great knowledge comes great responsibility. I got hurt falling off a bike, massage helped heal me, I am now a massage therapist, and I try to not only serve the rich. I also farm organically, taking care of the earth, and feeding people quality food. The way I see it, natural health is important, and one of our most basic needs, and in such and "advanced" society, most people are completely disconnected from it. College is evil, liberal, puts you in debt. Why can kids go to college to get in debt, the whole point is for security, to basically buy a home, but grown men nevermind those college kids are not allowed a loan for a home? Skip all the college debt? They are indoctrinated, brainwashed, and put into financial debt. They get introduced to all kinds of evil, and pride, of knowledge that is mostly manipulated against us. Working for big companies, counting money all day, it is all satans system, not gods, Its very deep, and Would take forever to fully explain, and there would be many contradictions in my words, but over time your heart can feel the message. Any questions please ask. Follow your heart, do something simple, that helps the world, they have made it hard, having electricity is destroying our planet and causing cancer, same with driving to work, same with us using the PC right now, satan has desensitized s to his system, and thoughts like this seem laughable and insane to most, trust they are not. This modern machine is wrong, and they mock us. Many many many people resisted the so called industrial revolution, they mock us with that term, the people revolted, but lost, and we are still loosing. They have bred us generation by generation and are slowly boiling the frog, people are addicted to what is no good for humanity, and the machine makes it nearly impossible to be free, but we can resist. Best of luck everyone! I love you all. Seek nature, seek god, seek humbleness, care not what others think of you.
Wealth acquired by the wrong means is cursed. Wealth acquired by wisdom from above cannot and will not be cursed. God will not go against his word. ( Deut 28:1-14)"The plans of the diligent lead surely to abundance and advantage, But everyone who acts in haste comes surely to poverty." ( Proverbs 21: 5). I think it is easy to put on wealth as being cursed so this way people don't need to look on the inside and see the money doesn't change people, it exposes what people are made of. If people cannot be blessed with more because they cannot handle it, why is wealth is to be blamed for it if wealth doesn't have any personality, feelings, attitude? If wealth acquired by honest means and wisdom from above is a deal breaker for some pastors, wealthy members need to take their tithe and offerings somewhere else.
Ask yourself question Jesus asked to the rich man. Now give everything you have to the poor and follow me. Can you do this? The rich man Jesus asked this to obeyed the 10 commandments.
@@frankh.5378 the rich man bragged he could keep all commandments. He approached Jesus like he had a check list and did amazing and therefore was worthy of heaven already. So Jesus challenged him about his wealth to expose the pride in his heart.
@@giscottusa point is that the rich man did his best in his mind to keep the commandments. So we can assume his wealth was gained honestly. So the point is still it is easier for camel to enter the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. - Jesus's words.
What is wealth for? On that final judgement day, Christians are going to be judged. But not for eternal condemnation but for rewards. What will your earthly wealth mean on that day? Use it to bless others otherwise is a curse, and even worse, you will pass it to your children and they will to their children. Many don't talk about Christians being rewarded in heaven, so just be careful and be prepared to study the Bible diligently.
I love your preaching, thank you for taking care of us. Your passion and faith is heard, Lord Christ Jesus is our saviour and wants to break all chains on His children.
Very interesting perspective. This has been on my mind a lot recently. I often feel that I am trying to reconcile my pursuit and desire for wealth with being a Christian. Christ was a homeless man with very few if any worldly possessions and we are supposed to follow his example. In this day and age we are told that money is freedom and bombarded with get rich quick schemes etc. I'd say that the ability to detach yourself from money is freedom and be happy no matter what your circumstances. That is true freedom. I think that's the problem, and I understand why this man calls it a curse. It reminds me of the young Noble man who was told to give up all he had and follow christ but he went away sorrowful. Having wealth often makes one accustomed to a certain lifestyle and once they have that they would find it hard to give up and will be willing to do unthinkable things to keep their wealth. Wealth becomes their master. I know many good Christians who have done questionable things in the pursuit of wealth. I have also been thinking a lot about the mark of the beast and it might seem a bit of a stretch but I'm starting to think it refers to money and more specifically the love of money.
@@fauxbro1983 well he doesn't keep the money to himself. It's hard to not have that kind of money when you have written a lot of books and is popular. Money all goes to his foundation and is given away.
This is the first thing God showed me when I got saved the tension between the pursuit of things, or money vs spiritual things, matters. You can't run after both or put your resources in both camps
I still question this. Why we job so wealthy and still have God or even king David . What is the difference now? Would u know…. I honestly don’t care about money as long as I have enough to pay my bills. To b honest. Theirs times when I get a lot of money n I feel weird and don’t even like it. I feel like I don’t deserve it or i feel like it’s shouldn’t be in my hands but others that needs it. It’s just a weird feeling. But would love to understand the old wellness to todays
Yes praise God. ❤️ That’s what the word of God says. But you probably are a little confused with the health and wealth spoken about in the Bible. One of the prosperity preachers favorite verse in the Bible is 3John 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. Prosper in the Greek is Euodoō (G2137) compound of G2095=Eu, meaning good or well. And G3598 Hodos meaning “Way” or “road” Prosper is not our word prosper and not our word health. The word prosper is Euodoō , it’s constructed from Eu (well) and hodos (way). Put the word together it’s Euodoō in the original Greek Bible. Hodos is the common Greek word for “way”. It’s the same word Jesus used when he said, “I am the way” in John 14:6. And Eu means “well”. We see that on our word Eulogy. A eulogy is when you stand at a funeral and say well logos (words), well words over someone who died. Jesus said “I am the way (Hodos). He said there was a narrow Hodos (way) and a broad Hodos (way. So what John was wishing for gaius was the well way which is Christ. Also health is in the Greek “hugiano” meaning healthy words, uncorrupt words Prosperity preachers use that to say God is wishing for us to prosper and have money and physical health. It has nothing to do with money and physical health.
Where does the bible say any of this of what this man is saying? Didn't the bible say "And I will also give you what you did not ask for-riches and fame! No other king in all the world will be compared to you for the rest of your life!." Kings 3:13 The Bible also says "He also told them this parable: "Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit?" Luke 6:39 So ask Jesus Christ to open your eyes, to take off the scales off your eyes.
I realize this is from a year ago, but I wanted to make a comment. John Piper lives in a very humble home in Minneapolis and he gives all of the money earned from his book sales to his organization DesiringGod or to related ministries. He did this to keep from becoming conceited.
The Bible provides doctrines of world views: that in any instance support our personal world views. John Piper is a classic example. Wealth is neither a blessing nor is it a curse - it all depends on who is managing it. Everything he says is both correct and biblical but also out of context. You cannot worship both God and Mammon - the emphasis should be on worship and not on the polar view of the two: God vs Mammon. What or who do you worship? If you are so easily overcome by greed, lack self-control and give in to every desire of your flesh - then you can be sure money will cause you to stumble, rob you of your salvation and forfeit heaven.
I agree with you, but why take the risk. You are not going to take it with you. Invest and gain for yourself friends so that you will be welcomed on that day. There is a purpose for money, you need to understand that if you are not engaged with God's purpose - either you are still baby in the Word, or you are in the worse state ever, in that, you think you are a Christian but you are not. Use the Mammon or it will use you.
@@churchhackadmin8157 I do not hear how your reply ads value, you undermined my point and then reiterated it back to me. Furthermore, you then impose your idea that I am either immature or not a Christian at all. Do you not feel that your reply is a bit unfair and judgemental? It is very easy on social media for people nowadays to be nasty to others, insult complete strangers and yet give no thought or consequence to the impact of their heinous remarks.
From personal experience and studying how people gain wealth i realised that the more time and effort you devote to gaining wealth the more apathetic and self-centered you become At some point in the pursuit of profits you cease to see people as people and start to see them as numbers on a paper or a market to exploit So yes wealth in and of itself isnt a blessing or curse but the process you go through to gain it is where it can become a curse
@@tr3m0r36 Your point-of-view is correct, however, many months later after posting my first comment: I have been privileged to meet a few followers of Christ - both rich and wealthy. And my experience of getting to know them was that they sincerely loved God, they were generous and overall kind hearted people
The Camel verse is not talking about it being impossible to get to heaven. My pastor has ridden camels and he told us they are often very stubborn animals and do not like to follow direction. They put a ring in the nose to force it to follow a path. The meaning behind that verse is that it is warning you if you become wealthy you can stop taking direction from God and trust in your own judgement and wisdom. It's not saying that if you become wealthy that you're going to hell. Another point is if wealth makes you go to hell, how wealthy is too wealthy? What is the definition of a wealthy person? Is it being a billionaire? Millionaire? Simply living in America? Owning 3 goats while your neighbor only has two? Just because the prosperity gospel is wrong doesn't mean you have to take the other extreme and say wealth in general is wrong.
There is nothing wrong with being wealthy. However if you feel it is wrong to be wealthy than rid yourself if it. “But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.” Romans 14:23
I met a wealthy woman who told me that only wealthy people should reproduce. She said, that middle working class or poor people are bad parents because they don't have a lot of money. She literally felt that she was superior to anyone who was not wealthy. It was very appalling to me.
don t love it because you love people you give all you have to poor christian there are many people who need food but if you love money you will not give.
Verse? where does the bible say any of this? Didn't the bible say "And I will also give you what you did not ask for-riches and fame! No other king in all the world will be compared to you for the rest of your life!." Kings 3:13 The Bible also says "He also told them this parable: "Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit?" Luke 6:39 So ask Jesus Christ to open your eyes, to take off the scales off your eyes.
@@allisa6010 pls read the epistle of Paul in 1st Timothy 6:10. Money itself is not evil but a covetous heart is. Judas betrayed the Lord for silver. Mary anointed the Lord Jesus' feet with expensive perfume n she was commended for her devotion. This was recorded in John chapter 12. Thus it all depends on how the money is being used. Solomon's case was special, he prayed for wisdom to rule the nation but God gave him riches as well.
It's so simple, it's impossible to miss. You either choose money or Christ, no man can serve two masters. Covetousness is idolatry, if you will love God, you will hate money.
@@TheFightingSheep Simple in your case is synonymous with fundamentalism. We live in an economic planet. Does your conclusion about hating money mean that you do not use it, that you are repulsed by it? If so, how do you take care of yourself and your family? Or is there a balance, a less fundamental view of money, that gives some ground to the fact that money is simply a technology that is integral to the system we are in?
@TheTruthIsOutThurr Fundament is foundation, foundation of Christianity is Christ. So if you follow Jesus Christ directly, you are a fundamentalist. 1 Corinthians 3:11 KJV - For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Matthew 7:24 KJV - Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: So, to answer your question, my view of money and earthly possession is the view of Jesus and of God, I don't love it, hate it or care about money, family or this life. When we die, we die, I don't want to stay in this world one minute longer than my Father wants me to stay. Matthew 6:25-26 KJV - Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? Matthew 8:20 KJV - And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head. Edit: And no, we don't live in an economic planet, we live in the presence of God, by faith in his Word. Economic planet is an idol, it can't save anyone.
If wealth or money is a curse, I guess there are many “kind” people want to “take” that curse from your hands. They just do not want you to have “pain”. Lol.
I don't know who you are but man that comment made my day 😃 and if anyone thinks wealth is a curse I will be more than goddamn happy to take it off their hands 🤣🤟
Wealth is not evil. It can be acquired by evil ways and spent on evil things. Money can be used for good or bad just like a knife 🔪 can he used for good or bad
He is spreading false information Studies have shown that people give a higher percentage of their wealth when they become wealthy if they were also generous when they were poor and people who were not generous when they're poor will not be generous when they're rich.
Well you have to ask, who makes money valuable? Everyday we get up and go to work we are agreeing with the other people in the world that money is more valuable than our freedom , time etc. it’s quit opposite the more freedom you have the more money you have. And when you truly have freedom you can create and build like we’re supposed to
When I read one of the books that is one of the least mentioned on the pulpits, Ecclesiastes, I learn that in life we must first A) Fear God and B) Obey his commandments, but also that we MUST balance everything. No, I'm not talking about balancing good with evil..GOD FORBID, because remember, everything in the Bible must be in harmony with everything else in the Bible but I digress. Here is a simple example of balance: We must eat to live but not live to eat. You don't eat, or you fast, it is good and healthy, but do it for a long time, including not drinking water, and you will die. If you over eat, or eat adulterated foods, you spike your insulin levels over time...and eventually you develop metabolic syndrome, something a lot of people have never heard of, yet it has plagued America for decades. It is possibly the biggest contributor to preexisting conditions...the main thing that made many people in America succumb to COVID 19, unfortunately. Another example is money. I don't think God wants for us to be poor or better put, lack in our needs. What does Proverbs say in Chapter 30 verses 8 and 9? If you are rich, like this preacher just said, you'll just buy more things for yourself and not use it for good and may eventually feel like you don't need God. If you don't get enough, you may end up so poor that you start getting desperate for things and end up breaking the commandment to not steal...and insult God.
Gen 24:34 “I am Abrahams servant. The Lord has greatly blessed my master, and he has become great, he has given him flocks and herds, silver and gold, menservants and maidservants, camels and donkeys” Here, wealth is associated with having Gods favor and a blessing. Is Christ looking at Abrahams wealth in retrospect and saying that it is easier for one of Abrahams camels to go through the eye of a needle than for Abraham to enter heaven? Abraham was extremely wealthy in his time and so were his descendants. Abraham the father of the faith. Christ himself in Luke 16 when teaching about the parable of Lazarus and the rich man references Abraham in heaven. So we know that he was not condemned for being wealthy. Is this a contradiction? It appears as though Old and New Testament outlooks on wealth change. Can anyone clarify this?
I don't believe wealth is a curse. I believe it's what you do with wealth that makes it a curse. Job had wealth he wasn't cursed but rather Tried. The earth is the Lord's and the fullness there of EVERYTHING BELONGS TO GOD
God I pray that you Lord would teach us to be giving with any wealth we aquire legally. Help us to help others that greed does not set in. Help us to seek out the needs of others, that we may bless them in your name. Give us power over money that we do what is right for the kingdom and ourselves. Bless those with it, but moreover bless those who give to those who need it. In Jesus name I pray Amen
People say money is a blessing. Of course I know what God wants us to give isn’t a prosperity gospel, and these days I wonder what a true blessing is all about. If I believe about wealth so radically to that point like Paster John Piper, I guess my life could be much simpler, less complicated and less “Why God?” questioning of thinking I know better than God. I’ll be more about having space for trusting God sincerely. Ultimately God is all I need. Thank you for wiping off wrong ideas the world offers. God bless you.
I don't understand does God want us to be poor and to not experience prosperity and abundance... Please answer I don't understand there's a lot of families on this planet that are good and just need a little bit of money but the minute they come to it were to blame them I don't understand I don't understand....
@@JohnAdams-mu7xd It’s because money was originated from china mongolian dynasty where the first paper money started. The people who used to sell at first didn’t accept the paper so they were killed. It’s basically terrorism. But as it is normalised people don’t really think much about it. And for people in need, they need to stop having desire of money and start asking God to fulfill their needs. I was in a bad situation too but i was not enslaved to money to justify my greed. It is greed because you’re thinking of making money instead of asking God for help. Government are devil worshippers and when mark of the beast era comes many will regret worshiping money over God. But all I can do for them is pray because it’s God who provides. He did many miracles in my life which is why I am confident in Him. And also God was the reason my atheism died. He shows up in unexpected ways. People are rather submitting to devil worshippers during their difficulties. I wouldn’t have been alive today if it was not for God and I will keep thanking Him for that. Always seek God and he will provide you your needs NOT THE MATERIALISTIC DESIRES.
Wow awesome clip. A voice of one calling in the wilderness, 'Make straight the way for the Lord.'" Not for wealth and material things but for spiritual things. Thank you John Piper for going against the grain and telling us it's not about stuff it's about spirit. Amen to that~
When you are wealthy, you can be a blessing to other people. Just because someone is rich, it doesn't make them a bad person. It's about your attitude towards it and what you do with it.
Being wealthy is simply a curse..rich people will do their best to preserve their mortal life but their soul are decaying...as Jesus said, donate your possession and your spirit will be cleansed but not your flesh...You have to choose your flesh or your spirit
@@krieskteyan become rich yourself first then donate your possessions… don’t just say wealth is a curse when you’ve never had wealth… you’re being brainwashed to remain poor and these preachers get rich from the money they collect from gullible people like you, but tell y’all that money is a curse… 😂
@@danielpasztor8188 There were people in the Bible who were rich. God is rich because He has mansions in heaven for us, streets of gold, gemstones in the throne room, and pearly gates. God wants us to prosper in life so that we can help others. Having money is not a sin. It's what you do with it that is a sin.
1 Timothy 6:9 But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and [into] many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition.
But…is John Piper not rich??? Or is rich/wealth being referred to differently here? Because based on my logical deduction; If wealthy people are almost always cursed, and John Piper is wealthy, then he must be cursed. Unless of course he magically falls into the category of wealthy people who aren’t cursed….but then, how do we separate the two groups? Ehh this puts me on a crazy thinking trail because then he continues to use the camel needle reference that a camel can’t go through a needle…..so then, it’s safe to say John Piper isn’t going to heaven then right? Never mind his faithfulness to God, he’s rich!!!
Quick question Piper... How exactly did Paul fund his missions? Oh right Lydia.... Who was a woman, and was wealthy. Oh and Joseph of Arimathea? The wealthy man that gave Jesus his tomb? Hey hey even better, how about the house where Jesus stayed for the last supper? *Gasp* it had to 2 stories. Meaning the owners where of social status with some wealth. Loving money is evil. But having money and using it to serve the Kingdom is not.
Yeshua said to a man to give what he had to the poor, and follow him. Using money to help others is very different. The goal had nothing to do with money. Many people love money more than people. That's sad, but money isn't the most important priority. Many people think that people who have money are more important in almost every way than people without it. Money is associated with worth.
do not store up wealth on earth rather store up riches in heaven... The Father gives us what we need not what we want.. why try so hard to be rich on earth? it was written that where are heart is where our treasure is also.. even Lord Jesus didn't live a luxurious life nor was his disciples .. even paul who was a lawyer fosake his career and followed Lord Jesus and lived a hard life doing so
Proverbs 10:22 (NKJV) 22 The blessing of the LORD makes one rich, And He adds no sorrow with it. Mark 10:29-31 (NKJV) 29 So Jesus answered and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel's, 30 who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time--houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions--and in the age to come, eternal life. 31 But many who are first will be last, and the last first."
Rich is God mercy, grace, love...why does he care about $?. That last verse 31...speaks of souls. The first 2 come 2 christ will have the same gift as the last 2 come 2 christ. He is fair..
@J D "how dare i"...😒....i doubt I created a stumbling block 2 anyone by saying the verse isnt about $. ...the way u just approached me wasnt necessary. Have a blessed day
This clip is definitely misdirected zeal. Instead pointing out what unbelievers do with their money, how about address the hearts of the individuals. “Wealth does not make you generous!”, then talk about how to be generous. Money, wealth, and prosperity are all relative and subjective. Address the affections of peoples hearts and they will learn how to handle money correctly instead of letting it control and handle them. Love you John Piper though!
Ever read the name of his ministry? One of the verses he referenced states that it is because of this misplaced desire that many are falling away from faith. That means it is something CHRISTIANS or at least those who think they are must be aware of. The man spends his life teaching about what it looks like to rightly value the Lord and His Kingdom. Why try and call out a minister of the Gospel over a 4 minute clip when decades worth of his sermons are available to listen to and explicitly address all of the concerns you brought up. Do you really think that a 4 minute video is going to contain all of the teachings of a man?
There is no confusion in God and His word. if you have love for money it is evil but if you do not have love for money you will use it to help poor children. it is not the money but the love of money is problem.
Don't listen to man, for the bible says Micah 7:5 - "Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom." where does the bible say any of this of what this man is saying? Didn't the bible say "And I will also give you what you did not ask for-riches and fame! No other king in all the world will be compared to you for the rest of your life!." Kings 3:13
I’ve seen a particular person change when they achieved a certain financial status (6-digits and counting). The high & mighty status - must live in a gated community, have the finest things and associate w/the higher class. That same person is in debt all round. I live in an apartment and have no debt apart from monthly expenses. There are times when I wonder what I’m doing wrong but after watching the change, I thank God. I believe it is Psalms that says give me neither poverty nor riches. Thank God I have neither. Contentment is peace. Debt-free is freedom. Both is God’s blessing. ❤
Proverbs 30 Two things I ask of you, Lord; do not refuse me before I die: Keep falsehood and lies far from me; give me neither poverty nor riches, but give me only my daily bread. Otherwise, I may have too much and disown you and say, ‘Who is the Lord?’ Or I may become poor and steal, and so dishonor the name of my God. Luke 16:10 Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much, and whoever is dishonest with very little will also be dishonest with much. So if you have not been trustworthy in handling worldly wealth, who will trust you with true riches? And if you have not been trustworthy with someone else’s property, who will give you property of your own?
Good message. Is this sermon available online entirely? I have thoroughly searched both the DG site and UA-cam without any luck. This snippet was uploaded in May 2013 and usually DG adds a link in the description to the full message but did not for this clip. Thanks in advance.
This makes a lot of sense to me. I am older and poor living off of SSD. I do however have people I see every day and talk to and enjoy visiting. I do not have to worry about ulterior motives. I can walk out the door without having people trying to hustle me. I have enough. Thank you Lord.
It is interesting that there are very few multi- millionaires and billionaires who are believers. Not MANY rich not MANY noble not MANY wise according to the wisdom of this world shall inherit the kingdom of God, but God has chosen the foolish things the weak to confound what I just said so no flesh would boast. As it is written if we are going to boast let us boast in the Lord.
"You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see." -Jesus Revelation 3:17-18 NIV
I just watched a youtube video about the unseen dangers in the Victorian home. The introduction explained that as the middle class grew (those who had been poor but now had money), they wanted stuff. They filled their homes with the latest gadgets...and were killed by them.
great sermon. not enough preachers preach boldly on this matter. and some ppl in the comment section misinterpret Pastor John's intention. What he is saying is if you have wealth dont use it all on yourself. you see, God created us to be productive and creative, and in the process some people create great wealth using their God-given talent and that's great. What is wrong is the DESIRE to get rich, which is destructive. Ive seen people wanting to get rich quick they borrow money from bank to invest it in stock market and lost. So theyre screwed big time. ive seen ppl get into messy debt just bcoz they want the certain lifestyle, the hermes bag, the mercedes.
The thought of being “cursed” with wealth appeals just for the flexibility it can give one in life. If I just had Piper’s money that would be a great start.
In reference to well-known famous preachers - I don’t believe they all get there riches and wealth from the churches I have seen preachers who make their living from their own work outside of the church such as entrepreneurship work because a lot of churches actually struggle to get people to give within there own church. If you’re struggling to find a preacher that you can trust then just read the Bible yourself and lean on God‘s understanding to you. We all have a set path that could possibly include riches or staying stagnant but I do believe God allowed you to live at whatever level you choose to live on. I’ve listen to TD Jakes Joyce Meyers Pastor Furtick ETC and I’m not ashamed to say that God has used them in my life to get me through some of the hardest things I’ve had to go through. Listening to John piper is great as well but I’ve never seen any good come from shaming other preachers you don’t know on a personal level. Regardless of their love for money as long as our hearts are for God and they give generously what is the real problem?
Jesus said in revelations that...you are poor... But you are rich. It is the riches of God that matters not the earthly riches. It's the spiritual aspect that matters in the end anyway. This is a true message.
Where does the bible say any of this of what this man is saying? Didn't the bible say "And I will also give you what you did not ask for-riches and fame! No other king in all the world will be compared to you for the rest of your life!." Kings 3:13 The Bible also says "He also told them this parable: "Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit?" Luke 6:39 So ask Jesus Christ to open your eyes, to take off the scales off your eyes.
@Blaise 2067 The Poverty Gospel God wants you to be sick and poor. If you are healthy or wealthy, it is because you do not have enough faith and/or are in disobedience to God. God wants you to be sick so that you will learn to obey His Word. "Before I was afflicted I went astray, but now I obey your word...It was good for me to be afflicted so that I might learn your decrees...I know, LORD, that your laws are righteous, and that in faithfulness you have afflicted me" (Psalm 119:67-75). God wants you to be sick because it demonstrates His power. "Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh...Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. But he said to me, 'My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.' Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me" (2 Corinthians 12:7-9). God wants you to give away everything you have, so clearly that means He wants you to be poor. "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me" (Matthew 19:21). God wants you to be poor so that you will take your eyes off the things of this world. "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also" (Matthew 6:19-21). God wants you to be poor. He demonstrates this by how often the Bible speaks against the evils of money and wealth. "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs" (1 Timothy 6:10). "No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money (Matthew 6:24). "But you have dishonored the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? Are they not the ones who are blaspheming the noble name of him to whom you belong?" (James 2:6-7). God wants you to be sick so that you can rely on His strength and learn to obey His Word. God wants you to be poor so that you can learn to trust Him and take your eyes off the things of this world. If you are not sick and poor, it is because you lack the faith to trust God, are not obeying Jesus' command to give everything away, and are holding on to the things of this world instead of longing for your eternal home in Heaven.
Jesus had a treasurer. Poor people don't have treasurers since they have nothing to manage. Every time Israel was bad, their punishment was poverty, but whenever they served God, their reward was wealth such as homes, abundant food and many heards of animals. If wealth is bad why would God give them all these things when they were good and take them away when they were bad? What is bad is putting our trust in money. But money is meant to be free flowing, coming and going. I love watching Myron Golden on UA-cam since he speaks from the bible regarding wealth.
It depends on what you mean by wealth. I think health is also wealth. You can wake up in the morning its wealth and by the grace of God. Why do you take it as a curse than as a blessing then? Wouldnt it upset God who is the one who provides?
This topic has been my battle ever since. I did try to do everything legit according to my ability & capacity to be wealthy but it was not successful. I ask GOD many times for the longest time WHY I am not getting the "FINANCIAL BREAK-THROUGH" I am praying for. And finally GOD led me to join a "Missionary School" and there I found the answer to my question about MONEY. The way Missionary lives is 100% dependent on GOD for (literally) EVERYTHING!!! It is the real meaning of "DYING to ONESELF". It humbles them. Many of these Missionaries have good paying jobs & careers yet they gave it all up to pursue the Preaching of Gospel to all nations. They do not have any more personal plans for themselves as they are now "laser focus" on winning lost souls back to GOD🙏. Lesson is : GOD want us to be dependent on HIM 100%. That we must wait upon the LORD & not getting ahead of HIM on planning & decisions making. That we must "detached" ourselves from earthly things instead focus our eyes on eternal salvation. It may seems difficult to do at first .. (giving-up the full control of your life to GOD) .. but it is what GOD is requiring from us to do. 🙏✝️📖
People put themselves in debt... For more stuff... It all starts in the heart... We should guard our hearts. Jesus never strifed to be rich in this world, he is our example. He did the will of His Father... What are we doing? Whose footsteps are we following?
Tasha Grant but we can learn from our mistakes and want to better ourselves. But we’re still stuck in the mess we created then we go back to doing all the wrong things because we feel we have no escape. There’s people who not change if they got wealth and people who would. Why not bless those who would for the better.
@@reallivewrestling6708 Thanks for that comment... Wealth changes people especially wealth built on lies. Our wealth doesn't natter to God, only our hearts.
@Eric Haddix Right, our focus should always be on the kingdom of God in Christ Jesus. Poverty will always be around but we are only here for a short time so we must focus on the will of the one died to give is life eternal, abundant life. The in agenda 2030 focuses on eliminating poverty... That's the worlds focus not ours as believers... Our work is God's will. Jesus said we can't but our trust in ourselves but God... Can't serve 2 masters.
@@godislightministries1466 not everyone puts themselves in debt , slot of people are on low incomes so when they need something their only way forward is a loan or credit card ....
Wow! That was prophetic brother!Won't hear a lot of truth like that anymore. Most Christians would sell their soul to keep their money or job now, and like you said they will convince themselves it lines up with the Word. You hit the nail right on the head! Your fruit shows you study The words of Y'Shua/Jesus. Most Christians kind of skip over a lot of His teachings. The 11th commandment is not taught in church but Jesus gave one more commandment when talking to the rich young Ruler. 11th commandment: "Give your riches to poor and follow me" How can a person stay rich if they do what He says? They cannot. For if we really love Y'Shua/Jesus then we will give away our riches instead of storing them up. We are given what we need but when we have an abundance it is so we can do the will of the Lord with it, and if He says give it to the poor then we must obey. John the Baptist was one of the greatest prophets but was he dressed in expensive clothing? Was he preaching on huge stages in kings courts? But know that the one having less than even John shall be greater than him. People forget that Satan can bless people as well. In Luke when Y'Shua talks about the unjust judge. We can see that the unjust judge does not fear the Elohim nor does he care for man but answers prayers and mocks the Lord. Would people still follow the Lord if it meant they had "DENY THEIR FLESH DAILY PICK UP THEIR CROSS/NOOSE AND FOLLOW HIM" If they love money then the love of the Father is not in them, and they should love not their lives unto the death but Love the Elohim with all their heart and soul and mind. Don't stop preaching the truth.
I strongly disagree, look at all he people God used that were wealthy... Been poor my whole life, currently trying to change that... POVERTY causes stress and depression.. How can that be from GOD?????
@@natedawg3855 none of the apostles are rich tho. none. in fact, most of them died tragically. that's the way of following christ and bear his cross I guess.
A camel and the eye of a needle is always quoted out of context. if you continue to read this verse in the 3 gospels it appears, Jesus' followers say "who then can be saved" to which Jesus' replies "with man that's impossible, but with God, everything is possible". My understanding, is that many religious Jews had the idea that those who were wealthy were so because they thought they were God's chosen, and Jesus was clarifying that salvation is not in any way related to wealth. I myself am not wealthy in the worldy way, so am not trying to justify myself.
The "eye of a needle" is not referring to an actual needle head. It refers to the entry point of a city back in Bible days where a camel would enter the city and the over arch was referred to as a needle where the camel would have to lower itself to enter, mainly because of the humps on its back. So the Bible is saying, it is easier for a camel to go through there than for a rich person to enter into the kingdom...mainly because some rich people may believe, because of their wealth, they really don't need God for anything. But wealth is not evil. The LOVE of money is the root of all evil.
Exactly! Wealth is a blessing as long as God is first place in your life. These people are terrible. This message is evil. Look at the comments, people thanking God for being poor and stuff. It's so defeating and evil.
The more I have made the more I’ve been able to give. I can’t agree wealth doesn’t make you more generous. It has made me more generous for sure. Truett Cathy who founded Chick-fil-A gave away more and more the larger the company grew.
I think this is false, coming from a Christian. where does the bible say any of this? Didn't the bible say "And I will also give you what you did not ask for-riches and fame! No other king in all the world will be compared to you for the rest of your life!." Kings 3:13 The Bible also says "He also told them this parable: "Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit?" Luke 6:39 So ask Jesus Christ to open your eyes, to take off the scales off your eyes
@@itshirohashioka5785 Mark 12:41-44 Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts. 42 But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a few cents. 43 Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. 44 They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything-all she had to live on.
And your comment right here is evidence how the reaction to the prosperity gospel can go into its own error. You've bought into some Marxist philosophy and married it to Piper's stance against the greed of prosperity gospel preachers. Trading one extreme for another.
The income gap is the reason the country is " losing it's soul"? So it's not sexual immortality, radical feminism, abortion? It's the fact that rich people aren't taxed enough ( though they pay over 70 percent of taxes) ? Come on! Get real.
Verse? where does the bible say any of this? Didn't the bible say "And I will also give you what you did not ask for-riches and fame! No other king in all the world will be compared to you for the rest of your life!." Kings 3:13 The Bible also says "He also told them this parable: "Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit?" Luke 6:39 So ask Jesus Christ to open your eyes, to take off the scales off your eyes.
The sentence with the camel is an old Israeli proverb. The eye of the needle is a small hole in a wall where camels used to have to squeeze through. They had to get on their knees to get through the hole. So it is not impossible. It is just very difficult! This is what the phrase means!
According to the bible there is also a spiritual understanding to this. For Jesus taught in parables and came to teach us of the kingdom of heaven (spiritual kingdom ) not of this earth only.. A deeper understanding of this is Jesus spoke of 'Spiritually Rich' people aswell.those who feel that they arent sinners.. the ones that don't seek that daily forgiveness nor feel unworthy.. The ones that Seek spiritual enlightenment in their own ways.
Hello, God bless. "Cannot" is a strong word. Even if poverty is harmful, God can use it to bless you in ways you couldn't imagine. Romans 8:28 "We know that for those who love God, all things work for good, that is, those who were called according to His purpose."
Wealth a curse when preachers make it seem like u gave $ 2 God for STUFF...STUFF u cant take with u....they preach God giving things and $ over just God giving jesus...that's enough. Every mega church pastor on TV preaches health and wealth...those r promises God never made... but ppl go n debt 2 give "tithes"
these famous preachers are all wealthy through their churches, oh they only get a moderate paycheck , but all the perks and benefits make them wealthy. I belive a preacher who turns down the travel, the big house , and cars , ect. Not many of us can resist the world.
What is the line of being rich. Compared to alot of people in the world, alot of normal people in the US would be considered rich. Lower class sometimes look at middle class people as rich. What is wealthy and just doing ok I guess? Serious question here.
I honestly hate my life sometimes. I hate that my family is poor and we live in the crazy drug infested chaotic area we live in. For years we have been praying for a Financial miracle so we can move away and have peace but after 20 years of praying I have finally accepted that it most likely is not the will of god and now I keep my hope in the beauty and promise of heaven.
Dude thats heart breaking😥 You and your family deserve abundance!!!
I don’t know what is going on with your family, but there are three things a Christian needs to do to before God will bless your finances. The first is tithing. The Second is giving offerings. The third is living with in a budget. Several Christian pastors have taught on this subject. You can look up Robert Morris or Rick Warren. Have you tried doing these things? Until you do them, your finances will not be blessed. I don’t know if God will give you enough money to move, but things in your finances will definitely change for the better. Are you sure your family hasn’t just been under a curse this whole time, because you are not doing the things I have mentioned? God cannot bless your finances until you do them.
Shalom!
Hey man, I strongly suggest seeking more wisdom on wealth, because this teaching here can be very dangerous, because he’s not addressing the contexts and themes surrounding these scriptures. How so?
Easily read further in the passage of 1 Timothy 6 (verse 17) and see what Pauls says about the rich later on. An ungodly desire for anything is wicked.
If wealth is wicked, then that would mean GOD is wicked for giving Solomon wealth and also giving us the power to produce wealth Deut 8:18. That’s why I’ve realized it’s important to do your own reading even though we seek more guided wisdom/ thoughts from these preachers of the WORD.
Jesus teaching on the rich man in summary was on the basis of self-righteousness.
I hope this gave you all some encouragement. 🙏🏽
May the peace of Jesus Christ be with you all!
You have a defeatist mentality. Don’t listen to this video. John Piper is a bigot. If no Christians became wealthy who would support local churches and missions? What sin is in your life that’s creating a barrier between you and a blessing? I highly suggest you go on a fast and pray to God, asking for a breakthrough.
What people fail to understand about money (and this is coming from someone grew up poor And now makes a 6 figures a year) is that when you pray for God to fix a financial situation he almost always will bring you answered prayer in seed form. Meaning there will be an open door that you will need to walk through and take action and put effort in To fix your situation.
When I was going through financial struggle I got my heart right with God and started asking him what were the little tiny steps that I could take. He didn't show me the full path but he showed me one step and then I took that and then he showed me another step and then I took that.
You break out of poverty Taking advantage of the resources that God has given you.
I.e. When you pray for a cake God is gonna give you milk flour and eggs and it's your job to bake them.
God gave you a mind he gave you the Internet he gave you books, he gave you so many resources that you can use to learn about how to improve your financial situation.
You wouldn't pray God help me to become a doctor and not study about medicine. Don't pray God Help my financial situation and then not study about money and how to acquire it.
Money enables me to be a blessing to others. Such as last night my Bible study group went out to dinner and I covered the whole tab without anyone knowing as an act of love so God could get all the credit.
Money is a tool that you can use to build God's kingdom or build yourself up don't hate on money it's not going to improve your life one bit by hating it.
Wealth is a test from God. It is also a blessing from God but not for you only but for all those needy people who try but still don't have enough and never ask for help.
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One of the prosperity preachers favorite verse in the Bible is 3John 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
Prosper in the Greek is Euodoō (G2137) compound of G2095=Eu, meaning good or well.
And G3598 Hodos meaning “Way” or “road”
Prosper is not our word prosper and not our word health.
The word prosper is Euodoō , it’s constructed from Eu (well) and hodos (way).
Put the word together it’s Euodoō in the original Greek Bible.
Hodos is the common Greek word for “way”. It’s the same word Jesus used when he said, “I am the way” in John 14:6.
And Eu means “well”. We see that on our word Eulogy. A eulogy is when you stand at a funeral and say well logos (words), well words over someone who died.
Jesus said “I am the way (Hodos). He said there was a narrow Hodos (way) and a broad Hodos (way.
So what John was wishing for gaius was the well way which is Christ.
Also health is in the Greek “hugiano” meaning healthy words, uncorrupt words
Prosperity preachers use that to say God is wishing for us to prosper and have money and physical health. It has nothing to do with money and physical health.
@@teachmetruth3539 would you say God doesn't care about our physical health? If not, why, and what verses support that argument? And if He does, then what verses should be used to support that idea? Thank you
@@teachmetruth3539 Well pointed. "and if children, then heirs-heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together."
Romans 8:17
You could help me. I need help
Well put
Poverty kills directly and indirectly. my mother worked herself to death with 2 jobs sometimes living on 3 hours sleep. she had to do it to pay for her mortgage etc. her body eventualy crumbled. she had no time to look after her health properly then ended up with the cruel ALS. Anyway she had a close relationship with the lord. Before she got sick though there were times she wished and wished she had a bit of wealth to fix things. wealth can be a life saver too!! not always a curse!! i find that wealth is most very often in the wrong hands of the wrong people
God respects the poor above all, physically, spiritually and financially so anyone working two jobs is not being wise, God said don't worry about what you should eat and drink and wear, it is not poverty that destroys people but lack of knowledge but then again sorry for your mother and may God bless for eternity you brother.
Should have got the kind of jobs you can sleep at!
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that is your opinion
God bless 🙌 who cares for
family. Money is for all to survive.
Please do a little more research before claiming that John Piper is a false teacher. I for one am fairly certain he is preaching solid theology.
I know this feeling. Its easy to say wealth is a curse, when youre rich. Poverty can cause discouragement, wealth can keep you in sin in my experience
Godliness with content is great gain, thank GOD for the bread and water, every day.
Amen!
@Evelyn Choy God takes care of his WHEAT. he is our FATHER.
@@felipekennedy3135 Spare me the BS that god will find a way to provide. I begged him for years to help me and all he says is F off
That is the EXACT reason why I decided not to pursue the CPA license anymore and to take a low salary and a low reputation after being unemployed for so long. Praise God for humbling me over the years. As a young man in my mid-twenties, I truly desire to use the gifts that God has graciously blessed me to bless others and provide for others in need. That is the right thing to do according to the Word of God. Matthew 25:31-46, 1 Timothy 6:6-10.
So you threw away your future for a pipe dream that might not happen for over 50 years or not at all
God may have gifted you to be a CPA, please read Deut 8. There is nothing wrong with having a career and acquiring wealth as God gives it. Don’t set your heart on wealth set your heart on glorifying God in your work and the wealth He gives you if He does, do rightly with it.
Hey John! Can you please explain your perspective? I'm interested since I'm studying to be an accountant and as you know getting the CPA license opens many doors. I'd like to hear your opinion
@@ChristOurKing Its like this, this is how I see it. God can best be seen in nature. Evil and satan, prince of this world, can best be seen in worldly pursuits, the system, cities, an utter perversion of the natural creation. In biblical times, wealth and abundance was more fair and easy to come by, nature would multiply for you, your cattle, your sheep, your grain. Dig a well, you have much water. Have family and family can multiply and be productive. Have some land, build houses adobe style, or with local timber. But in these times, the NWO satan system of money is strong. It is illegal to live off grid, truly off grid. You must have jobs, titles, money, taxes, insurance, cars, tools, etc. All of that is made in factories where humans are divided from themselves and family. And to get those modern resources the earth is being polluted and destroyed. I also was down this financial path, and tech path when I was younger. Mid 30s now. Gods wealth is not in materials or money or fame or prestige, it is in rightnousness, integrity, love, rich in spirit, abundant in family and companionship, the peace of knowing god. We do not need to "own" things, the forest is for all of us to enjoy. I have found few things to be an honest was of earning money these days for many complicated philosophical reasons, I am not judging, but for myself, with great knowledge comes great responsibility. I got hurt falling off a bike, massage helped heal me, I am now a massage therapist, and I try to not only serve the rich. I also farm organically, taking care of the earth, and feeding people quality food. The way I see it, natural health is important, and one of our most basic needs, and in such and "advanced" society, most people are completely disconnected from it. College is evil, liberal, puts you in debt. Why can kids go to college to get in debt, the whole point is for security, to basically buy a home, but grown men nevermind those college kids are not allowed a loan for a home? Skip all the college debt? They are indoctrinated, brainwashed, and put into financial debt. They get introduced to all kinds of evil, and pride, of knowledge that is mostly manipulated against us. Working for big companies, counting money all day, it is all satans system, not gods, Its very deep, and Would take forever to fully explain, and there would be many contradictions in my words, but over time your heart can feel the message. Any questions please ask. Follow your heart, do something simple, that helps the world, they have made it hard, having electricity is destroying our planet and causing cancer, same with driving to work, same with us using the PC right now, satan has desensitized s to his system, and thoughts like this seem laughable and insane to most, trust they are not. This modern machine is wrong, and they mock us. Many many many people resisted the so called industrial revolution, they mock us with that term, the people revolted, but lost, and we are still loosing. They have bred us generation by generation and are slowly boiling the frog, people are addicted to what is no good for humanity, and the machine makes it nearly impossible to be free, but we can resist. Best of luck everyone! I love you all. Seek nature, seek god, seek humbleness, care not what others think of you.
What.
There is nothing wrong with money or stuff.
It is your relationship to it.
What does any of this to do with a cpa?
Lol
Wealth acquired by the wrong means is cursed. Wealth acquired by wisdom from above cannot and will not be cursed. God will not go against his word. ( Deut 28:1-14)"The plans of the diligent lead surely to abundance and advantage,
But everyone who acts in haste comes surely to poverty." ( Proverbs 21: 5). I think it is easy to put on wealth as being cursed so this way people don't need to look on the inside and see the money doesn't change people, it exposes what people are made of. If people cannot be blessed with more because they cannot handle it, why is wealth is to be blamed for it if wealth doesn't have any personality, feelings, attitude? If wealth acquired by honest means and wisdom from above is a deal breaker for some pastors, wealthy members need to take their tithe and offerings somewhere else.
Agreed, wealth with the pastors is a blessing, when it come to us its a curse
Ask yourself question Jesus asked to the rich man. Now give everything you have to the poor and follow me. Can you do this? The rich man Jesus asked this to obeyed the 10 commandments.
@@frankh.5378 the rich man bragged he could keep all commandments. He approached Jesus like he had a check list and did amazing and therefore was worthy of heaven already. So Jesus challenged him about his wealth to expose the pride in his heart.
@@giscottusa point is that the rich man did his best in his mind to keep the commandments. So we can assume his wealth was gained honestly. So the point is still it is easier for camel to enter the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. - Jesus's words.
What is wealth for? On that final judgement day, Christians are going to be judged. But not for eternal condemnation but for rewards. What will your earthly wealth mean on that day? Use it to bless others otherwise is a curse, and even worse, you will pass it to your children and they will to their children.
Many don't talk about Christians being rewarded in heaven, so just be careful and be prepared to study the Bible diligently.
I love your preaching, thank you for taking care of us. Your passion and faith is heard, Lord Christ Jesus is our saviour and wants to break all chains on His children.
Very interesting perspective. This has been on my mind a lot recently. I often feel that I am trying to reconcile my pursuit and desire for wealth with being a Christian. Christ was a homeless man with very few if any worldly possessions and we are supposed to follow his example.
In this day and age we are told that money is freedom and bombarded with get rich quick schemes etc. I'd say that the ability to detach yourself from money is freedom and be happy no matter what your circumstances. That is true freedom. I think that's the problem, and I understand why this man calls it a curse. It reminds me of the young Noble man who was told to give up all he had and follow christ but he went away sorrowful. Having wealth often makes one accustomed to a certain lifestyle and once they have that they would find it hard to give up and will be willing to do unthinkable things to keep their wealth. Wealth becomes their master. I know many good Christians who have done questionable things in the pursuit of wealth.
I have also been thinking a lot about the mark of the beast and it might seem a bit of a stretch but I'm starting to think it refers to money and more specifically the love of money.
Let this sink in. John piper is worth excess of $20 million so there's that
@@fauxbro1983 well he doesn't keep the money to himself. It's hard to not have that kind of money when you have written a lot of books and is popular. Money all goes to his foundation and is given away.
@@fauxbro1983 ahh interesting tidbit. Thank you!
Correct! Very much agree.
@@KaYungCalebLai exactly. Ther money itself is not the problem, it's when you don't donate, that is a problem..
This is the first thing God showed me when I got saved the tension between the pursuit of things, or money vs spiritual things, matters. You can't run after both or put your resources in both camps
I needed to hear this and I believe God used you so that I could hear this. Thank you and God bless you :)
Be careful with the career you choose _-|-_
I was just struggling with this sin also.. Praise Lord Jesus for saving me
I still question this. Why we job so wealthy and still have God or even king David . What is the difference now? Would u know…. I honestly don’t care about money as long as I have enough to pay my bills. To b honest. Theirs times when I get a lot of money n I feel weird and don’t even like it. I feel like I don’t deserve it or i feel like it’s shouldn’t be in my hands but others that needs it. It’s just a weird feeling. But would love to understand the old wellness to todays
my suggestion: pursue Nothing
Christ is my health wealth joy peace and bliss
Amen thank you Jesus Christ king of kings 💖
Yes praise God. ❤️
That’s what the word of God says.
But you probably are a little confused with the health and wealth spoken about in the Bible.
One of the prosperity preachers favorite verse in the Bible is 3John 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
Prosper in the Greek is Euodoō (G2137) compound of G2095=Eu, meaning good or well.
And G3598 Hodos meaning “Way” or “road”
Prosper is not our word prosper and not our word health.
The word prosper is Euodoō , it’s constructed from Eu (well) and hodos (way).
Put the word together it’s Euodoō in the original Greek Bible.
Hodos is the common Greek word for “way”. It’s the same word Jesus used when he said, “I am the way” in John 14:6.
And Eu means “well”. We see that on our word Eulogy. A eulogy is when you stand at a funeral and say well logos (words), well words over someone who died.
Jesus said “I am the way (Hodos). He said there was a narrow Hodos (way) and a broad Hodos (way.
So what John was wishing for gaius was the well way which is Christ.
Also health is in the Greek “hugiano” meaning healthy words, uncorrupt words
Prosperity preachers use that to say God is wishing for us to prosper and have money and physical health. It has nothing to do with money and physical health.
With all due respect , mr. Piper what is your net worth??
Thank you!
@@giscottusa from what I found out, PASTOR piper's net worth is over 17 million.
Where does the bible say any of this of what this man is saying? Didn't the bible say "And I will also give you what you did not ask for-riches and fame! No other king in all the world will be compared to you for the rest of your life!." Kings 3:13
The Bible also says "He also told them this parable: "Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit?" Luke 6:39 So ask Jesus Christ to open your eyes, to take off the scales off your eyes.
I realize this is from a year ago, but I wanted to make a comment. John Piper lives in a very humble home in Minneapolis and he gives all of the money earned from his book sales to his organization DesiringGod or to related ministries. He did this to keep from becoming conceited.
The Bible provides doctrines of world views: that in any instance support our personal world views. John Piper is a classic example. Wealth is neither a blessing nor is it a curse - it all depends on who is managing it. Everything he says is both correct and biblical but also out of context. You cannot worship both God and Mammon - the emphasis should be on worship and not on the polar view of the two: God vs Mammon. What or who do you worship? If you are so easily overcome by greed, lack self-control and give in to every desire of your flesh - then you can be sure money will cause you to stumble, rob you of your salvation and forfeit heaven.
I agree with you, but why take the risk. You are not going to take it with you. Invest and gain for yourself friends so that you will be welcomed on that day. There is a purpose for money, you need to understand that if you are not engaged with God's purpose - either you are still baby in the Word, or you are in the worse state ever, in that, you think you are a Christian but you are not. Use the Mammon or it will use you.
@@churchhackadmin8157 I do not hear how your reply ads value, you undermined my point and then reiterated it back to me.
Furthermore, you then impose your idea that I am either immature or not a Christian at all.
Do you not feel that your reply is a bit unfair and judgemental?
It is very easy on social media for people nowadays to be nasty to others, insult complete strangers and yet give no thought or consequence to the impact of their heinous remarks.
Great reply! Well said!
From personal experience and studying how people gain wealth i realised that the more time and effort you devote to gaining wealth the more apathetic and self-centered you become
At some point in the pursuit of profits you cease to see people as people and start to see them as numbers on a paper or a market to exploit
So yes wealth in and of itself isnt a blessing or curse but the process you go through to gain it is where it can become a curse
@@tr3m0r36 Your point-of-view is correct, however, many months later after posting my first comment: I have been privileged to meet a few followers of Christ - both rich and wealthy. And my experience of getting to know them was that they sincerely loved God, they were generous and overall kind hearted people
The Camel verse is not talking about it being impossible to get to heaven. My pastor has ridden camels and he told us they are often very stubborn animals and do not like to follow direction. They put a ring in the nose to force it to follow a path. The meaning behind that verse is that it is warning you if you become wealthy you can stop taking direction from God and trust in your own judgement and wisdom. It's not saying that if you become wealthy that you're going to hell.
Another point is if wealth makes you go to hell, how wealthy is too wealthy? What is the definition of a wealthy person? Is it being a billionaire? Millionaire? Simply living in America? Owning 3 goats while your neighbor only has two?
Just because the prosperity gospel is wrong doesn't mean you have to take the other extreme and say wealth in general is wrong.
"it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to *enter the kingdom of God*"
Is it not?
There is nothing wrong with being wealthy. However if you feel it is wrong to be wealthy than rid yourself if it. “But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.”
Romans 14:23
@@skateboardguy1095 what Bible do you read? You just slapped Jesus in His face
Stop bearing false witness.
I with you on that
I met a wealthy woman who told me that only wealthy people should reproduce. She said, that middle working class or poor people are bad parents because they don't have a lot of money. She literally felt that she was superior to anyone who was not wealthy. It was very appalling to me.
funny
Wow
"For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil..." (1 Tim 6:10)
don t love it because you love people you give all you have to poor christian there are many people who need food but if you love money you will not give.
Verse? where does the bible say any of this? Didn't the bible say "And I will also give you what you did not ask for-riches and fame! No other king in all the world will be compared to you for the rest of your life!." Kings 3:13
The Bible also says "He also told them this parable: "Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit?" Luke 6:39 So ask Jesus Christ to open your eyes, to take off the scales off your eyes.
@@allisa6010 pls read the epistle of Paul in 1st Timothy 6:10. Money itself is not evil but a covetous heart is. Judas betrayed the Lord for silver. Mary anointed the Lord Jesus' feet with expensive perfume n she was commended for her devotion. This was recorded in John chapter 12. Thus it all depends on how the money is being used.
Solomon's case was special, he prayed for wisdom to rule the nation but God gave him riches as well.
@@biniamchristian2220 tell that to these mega Church pastors they haul all these money and don't give one cent to the poor
@@Caim6311 a church is the people not the pastor. The pastor can be a false teacher
Wealth is a curse? Sign me up!
Wealth may be a curse, but so is poverty. I'd rather be cursed and comfortable than cursed and hungry.
Both are same . Cursed is cursed
@@cryptoking5332 I'd rather be cursed in a mansion than one paycheck away from the street.
@Brian Bachinger *Easier to see God FOR WHAT HE IS when you have nothing...
@Brian Bachinger So you ascribe to the Poverty Gospel???
Give me Jesus. You can have everything else, it's all going to pass away.
It takes a degree of wisdom to understand what Piper is saying and not getting confused over money and finances.
It's so simple, it's impossible to miss. You either choose money or Christ, no man can serve two masters. Covetousness is idolatry, if you will love God, you will hate money.
@@TheFightingSheep Simple in your case is synonymous with fundamentalism. We live in an economic planet. Does your conclusion about hating money mean that you do not use it, that you are repulsed by it? If so, how do you take care of yourself and your family? Or is there a balance, a less fundamental view of money, that gives some ground to the fact that money is simply a technology that is integral to the system we are in?
@TheTruthIsOutThurr Fundament is foundation, foundation of Christianity is Christ. So if you follow Jesus Christ directly, you are a fundamentalist.
1 Corinthians 3:11 KJV - For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Matthew 7:24 KJV - Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
So, to answer your question, my view of money and earthly possession is the view of Jesus and of God, I don't love it, hate it or care about money, family or this life. When we die, we die, I don't want to stay in this world one minute longer than my Father wants me to stay.
Matthew 6:25-26 KJV - Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
Matthew 8:20 KJV - And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.
Edit: And no, we don't live in an economic planet, we live in the presence of God, by faith in his Word. Economic planet is an idol, it can't save anyone.
@@TheTruthIsOutThurrpeople are idiots 😭😭
This is so true. Personally, in my experience, I realized I am becoming a liar, greedy, and selfish person today. And it is so heavy.😢
If wealth or money is a curse, I guess there are many “kind” people want to “take” that curse from your hands. They just do not want you to have “pain”. Lol.
I don't know who you are but man that comment made my day 😃 and if anyone thinks wealth is a curse I will be more than goddamn happy to take it off their hands 🤣🤟
No.
Wealth or money is not a curse.
It is the love of wealth or money.
Roll this normally and often always a curse rather than a blessing thank you for this message I really needed it
Wealth is not evil. It can be acquired by evil ways and spent on evil things. Money can be used for good or bad just like a knife 🔪 can he used for good or bad
💯... Spot on! POVERTY Is definitely not of GOD though!
He is spreading false information Studies have shown that people give a higher percentage of their wealth when they become wealthy if they were also generous when they were poor and people who were not generous when they're poor will not be generous when they're rich.
@joashscottofficial proverbs 21:20
Well you have to ask, who makes money valuable? Everyday we get up and go to work we are agreeing with the other people in the world that money is more valuable than our freedom , time etc. it’s quit opposite the more freedom you have the more money you have. And when you truly have freedom you can create and build like we’re supposed to
Brother is right nothing must come in between God and us.
When I read one of the books that is one of the least mentioned on the pulpits, Ecclesiastes, I learn that in life we must first A) Fear God and B) Obey his commandments, but also that we MUST balance everything. No, I'm not talking about balancing good with evil..GOD FORBID, because remember, everything in the Bible must be in harmony with everything else in the Bible but I digress. Here is a simple example of balance: We must eat to live but not live to eat. You don't eat, or you fast, it is good and healthy, but do it for a long time, including not drinking water, and you will die. If you over eat, or eat adulterated foods, you spike your insulin levels over time...and eventually you develop metabolic syndrome, something a lot of people have never heard of, yet it has plagued America for decades. It is possibly the biggest contributor to preexisting conditions...the main thing that made many people in America succumb to COVID 19, unfortunately. Another example is money. I don't think God wants for us to be poor or better put, lack in our needs. What does Proverbs say in Chapter 30 verses 8 and 9? If you are rich, like this preacher just said, you'll just buy more things for yourself and not use it for good and may eventually feel like you don't need God. If you don't get enough, you may end up so poor that you start getting desperate for things and end up breaking the commandment to not steal...and insult God.
Thank you Jesus for a man like John Piper powerful sermon.
Gen 24:34
“I am Abrahams servant. The Lord has greatly blessed my master, and he has become great, he has given him flocks and herds, silver and gold, menservants and maidservants, camels and donkeys”
Here, wealth is associated with having Gods favor and a blessing. Is Christ looking at Abrahams wealth in retrospect and saying that it is easier for one of Abrahams camels to go through the eye of a needle than for Abraham to enter heaven? Abraham was extremely wealthy in his time and so were his descendants. Abraham the father of the faith. Christ himself in Luke 16 when teaching about the parable of Lazarus and the rich man references Abraham in heaven. So we know that he was not condemned for being wealthy.
Is this a contradiction? It appears as though Old and New Testament outlooks on wealth change. Can anyone clarify this?
I don't believe wealth is a curse. I believe it's what you do with wealth that makes it a curse. Job had wealth he wasn't cursed but rather Tried. The earth is the Lord's and the fullness there of EVERYTHING BELONGS TO GOD
God I pray that you Lord would teach us to be giving with any wealth we aquire legally. Help us to help others that greed does not set in. Help us to seek out the needs of others, that we may bless them in your name. Give us power over money that we do what is right for the kingdom and ourselves. Bless those with it, but moreover bless those who give to those who need it. In Jesus name I pray Amen
People say money is a blessing. Of course I know what God wants us to give isn’t a prosperity gospel, and these days I wonder what a true blessing is all about. If I believe about wealth so radically to that point like Paster John Piper, I guess my life could be much simpler, less complicated and less “Why God?” questioning of thinking I know better than God. I’ll be more about having space for trusting God sincerely. Ultimately God is all I need. Thank you for wiping off wrong ideas the world offers. God bless you.
Please show your wealth ?
So mr piper just looked up your net worth 17 million dollars so where are you heading?
Finally a pastor being realistic with money. Subscribed to your channel after this video
I don't understand does God want us to be poor and to not experience prosperity and abundance... Please answer I don't understand there's a lot of families on this planet that are good and just need a little bit of money but the minute they come to it were to blame them I don't understand I don't understand....
@@JohnAdams-mu7xd It’s because money was originated from china mongolian dynasty where the first paper money started. The people who used to sell at first didn’t accept the paper so they were killed. It’s basically terrorism. But as it is normalised people don’t really think much about it. And for people in need, they need to stop having desire of money and start asking God to fulfill their needs. I was in a bad situation too but i was not enslaved to money to justify my greed. It is greed because you’re thinking of making money instead of asking God for help. Government are devil worshippers and when mark of the beast era comes many will regret worshiping money over God. But all I can do for them is pray because it’s God who provides. He did many miracles in my life which is why I am confident in Him. And also God was the reason my atheism died. He shows up in unexpected ways. People are rather submitting to devil worshippers during their difficulties. I wouldn’t have been alive today if it was not for God and I will keep thanking Him for that. Always seek God and he will provide you your needs NOT THE MATERIALISTIC DESIRES.
What if I give 50 percent of my salary to the poor??....am I not glorifying God?
No not if your doing it for you
Clanging gong.
In the house of the wise are stores of choice food and oil, but a foolish man devours all he has.
Wow awesome clip. A voice of one calling in the wilderness, 'Make straight the way for the Lord.'" Not for wealth and material things but for spiritual things. Thank you John Piper for going against the grain and telling us it's not about stuff it's about spirit. Amen to that~
Being in Poverty is Also a Curse!
@joashscottofficial No but living in Poverty is Hell!
When you are wealthy, you can be a blessing to other people. Just because someone is rich, it doesn't make them a bad person. It's about your attitude towards it and what you do with it.
Being wealthy is simply a curse..rich people will do their best to preserve their mortal life but their soul are decaying...as Jesus said, donate your possession and your spirit will be cleansed but not your flesh...You have to choose your flesh or your spirit
@@krieskteyan become rich yourself first then donate your possessions… don’t just say wealth is a curse when you’ve never had wealth… you’re being brainwashed to remain poor and these preachers get rich from the money they collect from gullible people like you, but tell y’all that money is a curse… 😂
@@danielpasztor8188 There were people in the Bible who were rich. God is rich because He has mansions in heaven for us, streets of gold, gemstones in the throne room, and pearly gates. God wants us to prosper in life so that we can help others. Having money is not a sin. It's what you do with it that is a sin.
@@godsdaughter_1234 a person with common sense and who thinks 👏🙌
@@godsdaughter_1234 just read timotheus 1 6
1 Timothy 6:9 But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and [into] many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition.
But…is John Piper not rich??? Or is rich/wealth being referred to differently here? Because based on my logical deduction; If wealthy people are almost always cursed, and John Piper is wealthy, then he must be cursed. Unless of course he magically falls into the category of wealthy people who aren’t cursed….but then, how do we separate the two groups? Ehh this puts me on a crazy thinking trail because then he continues to use the camel needle reference that a camel can’t go through a needle…..so then, it’s safe to say John Piper isn’t going to heaven then right? Never mind his faithfulness to God, he’s rich!!!
What’s in your bank accnt John piper?!
Quick question Piper... How exactly did Paul fund his missions? Oh right Lydia.... Who was a woman, and was wealthy. Oh and Joseph of Arimathea? The wealthy man that gave Jesus his tomb? Hey hey even better, how about the house where Jesus stayed for the last supper? *Gasp* it had to 2 stories. Meaning the owners where of social status with some wealth. Loving money is evil. But having money and using it to serve the Kingdom is not.
Yea and I wonder why you couldn't catch that what Piper said is what you're trying to say?
REAL TRUTH... ARISE CHILDREN OF GOD ..... BLOOD OF JESUS REDEEMED US FROM BEING POOR....
Amen. Gods gives some money to use and bless others.
Yeshua said to a man to give what he had to the poor, and follow him. Using money to help others is very different. The goal had nothing to do with money. Many people love money more than people. That's sad, but money isn't the most important priority. Many people think that people who have money are more important in almost every way than people without it. Money is associated with worth.
do not store up wealth on earth rather store up riches in heaven... The Father gives us what we need not what we want.. why try so hard to be rich on earth? it was written that where are heart is where our treasure is also.. even Lord Jesus didn't live a luxurious life nor was his disciples .. even paul who was a lawyer fosake his career and followed Lord Jesus and lived a hard life doing so
Stop craving after Toyota and Lexus.
Exactly....stop craving strippers!
And alcohol and drugs!
@@Christa-tl8jb and free, careless and mortal sex.
I bought a 850$ car, it will be for life for sure eheh
@@andreimatheus5282 😹😹😹
Proverbs 10:22 (NKJV)
22 The blessing of the LORD makes one rich, And He adds no sorrow with it.
Mark 10:29-31 (NKJV)
29 So Jesus answered and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel's,
30 who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time--houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions--and in the age to come, eternal life.
31 But many who are first will be last, and the last first."
spiritually Rich
Rich is God mercy, grace, love...why does he care about $?. That last verse 31...speaks of souls. The first 2 come 2 christ will have the same gift as the last 2 come 2 christ. He is fair..
@J D "how dare i"...😒....i doubt I created a stumbling block 2 anyone by saying the verse isnt about $. ...the way u just approached me wasnt necessary. Have a blessed day
@J D well thank u. No harm done.
This clip is definitely misdirected zeal. Instead pointing out what unbelievers do with their money, how about address the hearts of the individuals. “Wealth does not make you generous!”, then talk about how to be generous. Money, wealth, and prosperity are all relative and subjective. Address the affections of peoples hearts and they will learn how to handle money correctly instead of letting it control and handle them. Love you John Piper though!
Ever read the name of his ministry? One of the verses he referenced states that it is because of this misplaced desire that many are falling away from faith. That means it is something CHRISTIANS or at least those who think they are must be aware of. The man spends his life teaching about what it looks like to rightly value the Lord and His Kingdom. Why try and call out a minister of the Gospel over a 4 minute clip when decades worth of his sermons are available to listen to and explicitly address all of the concerns you brought up. Do you really think that a 4 minute video is going to contain all of the teachings of a man?
Amen. Piper has spawned a lot of Gnosticism over money. The Marxists have taken his words and co-opted them too.
@joashscottofficial lol
If you read his book “Don’t Waste Your Life” you’ll find your answers. God bless.
Where can I find this whole sermon?
In the gutter.
Money is used to buy materials and can corrupt one that has more than needed
I’m so confused.
There is no confusion in God and His word. if you have love for money it is evil but if you do not have love for money you will use it to help poor children. it is not the money but the love of money is problem.
@@biniamchristian2220 amen 💖💖💖💖
Don't listen to man, for the bible says Micah 7:5 - "Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom." where does the bible say any of this of what this man is saying? Didn't the bible say "And I will also give you what you did not ask for-riches and fame! No other king in all the world will be compared to you for the rest of your life!." Kings 3:13
I’ve seen a particular person change when they achieved a certain financial status (6-digits and counting). The high & mighty status - must live in a gated community, have the finest things and associate w/the higher class. That same person is in debt all round.
I live in an apartment and have no debt apart from monthly expenses. There are times when I wonder what I’m doing wrong but after watching the change, I thank God. I believe it is Psalms that says give me neither poverty nor riches. Thank God I have neither.
Contentment is peace.
Debt-free is freedom.
Both is God’s blessing. ❤
I don't want wealth I want health!
and wealth buys health… it buys the water filters and organic foods and non-toxic home/personal care products!
Proverbs 30
Two things I ask of you, Lord;
do not refuse me before I die:
Keep falsehood and lies far from me;
give me neither poverty nor riches,
but give me only my daily bread.
Otherwise, I may have too much and disown you
and say, ‘Who is the Lord?’
Or I may become poor and steal,
and so dishonor the name of my God.
Luke 16:10
Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much, and whoever is dishonest with very little will also be dishonest with much. So if you have not been trustworthy in handling worldly wealth, who will trust you with true riches? And if you have not been trustworthy with someone else’s property, who will give you property of your own?
Thats the best comment here, why is there no reply to this❤
Good message. Is this sermon available online entirely?
I have thoroughly searched both the DG site and UA-cam without any luck.
This snippet was uploaded in May 2013 and usually DG adds a link in the description to the full message but did not for this clip.
Thanks in advance.
This makes a lot of sense to me. I am older and poor living off of SSD. I do however have people I see every day and talk to and enjoy visiting. I do not have to worry about ulterior motives. I can walk out the door without having people trying to hustle me. I have enough. Thank you Lord.
Love the passion
It is interesting that there are very few multi- millionaires and billionaires who are believers. Not MANY rich not MANY noble not MANY wise according to the wisdom of this world shall inherit the kingdom of God, but God has chosen the foolish things the weak to confound what I just said so no flesh would boast. As it is written if we are going to boast let us boast in the Lord.
Yess i dont seek wealth. For i am wealthy thru christ which provides my needs. Phil 4 13
"You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see."
-Jesus
Revelation 3:17-18 NIV
yep!!!!! the love of money is evil but money.
Revelation is full of scare tactics
Serious question,if God elects who is saved then why is it hard for a rich man to enter heaven?
Hear my words carefully, lack of money is the greatest curse in this life besides bad health and in most cases the two are joined together.
I just watched a youtube video about the unseen dangers in the Victorian home.
The introduction explained that as the middle class grew (those who had been poor but now had money), they wanted stuff. They filled their homes with the latest gadgets...and were killed by them.
Help with a link to this sermon
great sermon. not enough preachers preach boldly on this matter. and some ppl in the comment section misinterpret Pastor John's intention. What he is saying is if you have wealth dont use it all on yourself. you see, God created us to be productive and creative, and in the process some people create great wealth using their God-given talent and that's great. What is wrong is the DESIRE to get rich, which is destructive. Ive seen people wanting to get rich quick they borrow money from bank to invest it in stock market and lost. So theyre screwed big time. ive seen ppl get into messy debt just bcoz they want the certain lifestyle, the hermes bag, the mercedes.
I really want to hear the full sermon. May i know from where i can get the full sermon please
The thought of being “cursed” with wealth appeals just for the flexibility it can give one in life. If I just had Piper’s money that would be a great start.
This made me want to cry.. especially around Christmas time with the push for material things
In reference to well-known famous preachers - I don’t believe they all get there riches and wealth from the churches I have seen preachers who make their living from their own work outside of the church such as entrepreneurship work because a lot of churches actually struggle to get people to give within there own church. If you’re struggling to find a preacher that you can trust then just read the Bible yourself and lean on God‘s understanding to you. We all have a set path that could possibly include riches or staying stagnant but I do believe God allowed you to live at whatever level you choose to live on. I’ve listen to TD Jakes Joyce Meyers Pastor Furtick ETC and I’m not ashamed to say that God has used them in my life to get me through some of the hardest things I’ve had to go through. Listening to John piper is great as well but I’ve never seen any good come from shaming other preachers you don’t know on a personal level. Regardless of their love for money as long as our hearts are for God and they give generously what is the real problem?
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Do you think poverty is in any way a blessing?
No! poverty and riches are both destructive at their most extremes!
Jesus said in revelations that...you are poor... But you are rich. It is the riches of God that matters not the earthly riches. It's the spiritual aspect that matters in the end anyway. This is a true message.
The truth is poverty poisons the soul and thats why God stresses on giving to less fortunate.....
God doesnt want poverty to hit on people
Where does the bible say any of this of what this man is saying? Didn't the bible say "And I will also give you what you did not ask for-riches and fame! No other king in all the world will be compared to you for the rest of your life!." Kings 3:13
The Bible also says "He also told them this parable: "Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit?" Luke 6:39 So ask Jesus Christ to open your eyes, to take off the scales off your eyes.
@Blaise 2067 The Poverty Gospel
God wants you to be sick and poor. If you are healthy or wealthy, it is because you do not have enough faith and/or are in disobedience to God.
God wants you to be sick so that you will learn to obey His Word.
"Before I was afflicted I went astray, but now I obey your word...It was good for me to be afflicted so that I might learn your decrees...I know, LORD, that your laws are righteous, and that in faithfulness you have afflicted me" (Psalm 119:67-75).
God wants you to be sick because it demonstrates His power.
"Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh...Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. But he said to me, 'My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.' Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me" (2 Corinthians 12:7-9).
God wants you to give away everything you have, so clearly that means He wants you to be poor.
"If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me" (Matthew 19:21).
God wants you to be poor so that you will take your eyes off the things of this world.
"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also" (Matthew 6:19-21).
God wants you to be poor. He demonstrates this by how often the Bible speaks against the evils of money and wealth.
"For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs" (1 Timothy 6:10).
"No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money (Matthew 6:24).
"But you have dishonored the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? Are they not the ones who are blaspheming the noble name of him to whom you belong?" (James 2:6-7).
God wants you to be sick so that you can rely on His strength and learn to obey His Word. God wants you to be poor so that you can learn to trust Him and take your eyes off the things of this world. If you are not sick and poor, it is because you lack the faith to trust God, are not obeying Jesus' command to give everything away, and are holding on to the things of this world instead of longing for your eternal home in Heaven.
Jesus had a treasurer. Poor people don't have treasurers since they have nothing to manage.
Every time Israel was bad, their punishment was poverty, but whenever they served God, their reward was wealth such as homes, abundant food and many heards of animals.
If wealth is bad why would God give them all these things when they were good and take them away when they were bad? What is bad is putting our trust in money. But money is meant to be free flowing, coming and going.
I love watching Myron Golden on UA-cam since he speaks from the bible regarding wealth.
It depends on what you mean by wealth. I think health is also wealth. You can wake up in the morning its wealth and by the grace of God. Why do you take it as a curse than as a blessing then? Wouldnt it upset God who is the one who provides?
This topic has been my battle ever since. I did try to do everything legit according to my ability & capacity to be wealthy but it was not successful. I ask GOD many times for the longest time WHY I am not getting the "FINANCIAL BREAK-THROUGH" I am praying for. And finally GOD led me to join a "Missionary School" and there I found the answer to my question about MONEY. The way Missionary lives is 100% dependent on GOD for (literally) EVERYTHING!!! It is the real meaning of "DYING to ONESELF". It humbles them. Many of these Missionaries have good paying jobs & careers yet they gave it all up to pursue the Preaching of Gospel to all nations. They do not have any more personal plans for themselves as they are now "laser focus" on winning lost souls back to GOD🙏. Lesson is : GOD want us to be dependent on HIM 100%. That we must wait upon the LORD & not getting ahead of HIM on planning & decisions making. That we must "detached" ourselves from earthly things instead focus our eyes on eternal salvation. It may seems difficult to do at first .. (giving-up the full control of your life to GOD) .. but it is what GOD is requiring from us to do. 🙏✝️📖
So I should live in debt and poverty? Money can be used for both great good and great evil! Remember that.
People put themselves in debt... For more stuff... It all starts in the heart... We should guard our hearts. Jesus never strifed to be rich in this world, he is our example. He did the will of His Father... What are we doing? Whose footsteps are we following?
Tasha Grant but we can learn from our mistakes and want to better ourselves. But we’re still stuck in the mess we created then we go back to doing all the wrong things because we feel we have no escape. There’s people who not change if they got wealth and people who would. Why not bless those who would for the better.
@@reallivewrestling6708 Thanks for that comment... Wealth changes people especially wealth built on lies. Our wealth doesn't natter to God, only our hearts.
@Eric Haddix Right, our focus should always be on the kingdom of God in Christ Jesus. Poverty will always be around but we are only here for a short time so we must focus on the will of the one died to give is life eternal, abundant life. The in agenda 2030 focuses on eliminating poverty... That's the worlds focus not ours as believers... Our work is God's will. Jesus said we can't but our trust in ourselves but God... Can't serve 2 masters.
@@godislightministries1466 not everyone puts themselves in debt , slot of people are on low incomes so when they need something their only way forward is a loan or credit card ....
Good video.
Wow! That was prophetic brother!Won't hear a lot of truth like that anymore. Most Christians would sell their soul to keep their money or job now, and like you said they will convince themselves it lines up with the Word.
You hit the nail right on the head! Your fruit shows you study The words of Y'Shua/Jesus. Most Christians kind of skip over a lot of His teachings.
The 11th commandment is not taught in church but Jesus gave one more commandment when talking to the rich young Ruler.
11th commandment: "Give your riches to poor and follow me"
How can a person stay rich if they do what He says? They cannot. For if we really love Y'Shua/Jesus then we will give away our riches instead of storing them up.
We are given what we need but when we have an abundance it is so we can do the will of the Lord with it, and if He says give it to the poor then we must obey.
John the Baptist was one of the greatest prophets but was he dressed in expensive clothing? Was he preaching on huge stages in kings courts? But know that the one having less than even John shall be greater than him.
People forget that Satan can bless people as well. In Luke when Y'Shua talks about the unjust judge. We can see that the unjust judge does not fear the Elohim nor does he care for man but answers prayers and mocks the Lord.
Would people still follow the Lord if it meant they had "DENY THEIR FLESH DAILY PICK UP THEIR CROSS/NOOSE AND FOLLOW HIM"
If they love money then the love of the Father is not in them, and they should love not their lives unto the death but Love the Elohim with all their heart and soul and mind.
Don't stop preaching the truth.
In that case, is it safe to say that wealth is not a blessing from god?
I strongly disagree, look at all he people God used that were wealthy... Been poor my whole life, currently trying to change that... POVERTY causes stress and depression.. How can that be from GOD?????
@@natedawg3855 none of the apostles are rich tho. none. in fact, most of them died tragically. that's the way of following christ and bear his cross I guess.
I don't think a blanket statement is correct. It is who is LORD?
A camel and the eye of a needle is always quoted out of context. if you continue to read this verse in the 3 gospels it appears, Jesus' followers say "who then can be saved" to which Jesus' replies "with man that's impossible, but with God, everything is possible". My understanding, is that many religious Jews had the idea that those who were wealthy were so because they thought they were God's chosen, and Jesus was clarifying that salvation is not in any way related to wealth.
I myself am not wealthy in the worldy way, so am not trying to justify myself.
Interesting, but it does talk badly about accumulating wealth.
I like when you say "not wealthy in the wordly way"
Man i wish i was cursed with wealth. That’d be so awesome!!
The "eye of a needle" is not referring to an actual needle head. It refers to the entry point of a city back in Bible days where a camel would enter the city and the over arch was referred to as a needle where the camel would have to lower itself to enter, mainly because of the humps on its back. So the Bible is saying, it is easier for a camel to go through there than for a rich person to enter into the kingdom...mainly because some rich people may believe, because of their wealth, they really don't need God for anything. But wealth is not evil. The LOVE of money is the root of all evil.
Exactly! Wealth is a blessing as long as God is first place in your life. These people are terrible. This message is evil. Look at the comments, people thanking God for being poor and stuff. It's so defeating and evil.
Abraham was filthy rich .. wealth is a good thing the problem is do you love god ..
I always hope that God takes all my money, and give to other how much they need, and to me how much I need
"Wealth does not make you more genorous" amen.
What is genorous man?
The more I have made the more I’ve been able to give. I can’t agree wealth doesn’t make you more generous. It has made me more generous for sure. Truett Cathy who founded Chick-fil-A gave away more and more the larger the company grew.
Neither does poverty. Amen!
I think this is false, coming from a Christian. where does the bible say any of this? Didn't the bible say "And I will also give you what you did not ask for-riches and fame! No other king in all the world will be compared to you for the rest of your life!." Kings 3:13
The Bible also says "He also told them this parable: "Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit?" Luke 6:39 So ask Jesus Christ to open your eyes, to take off the scales off your eyes
@@itshirohashioka5785 Mark 12:41-44 Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts. 42 But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a few cents.
43 Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. 44 They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything-all she had to live on.
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Your insight on wealth is on-point. It seems this great country of ours is losing its soul if the income gap continues to grow.
And your comment right here is evidence how the reaction to the prosperity gospel can go into its own error. You've bought into some Marxist philosophy and married it to Piper's stance against the greed of prosperity gospel preachers. Trading one extreme for another.
The income gap is the reason the country is " losing it's soul"?
So it's not sexual immortality, radical feminism, abortion? It's the fact that rich people aren't taxed enough ( though they pay over 70 percent of taxes) ?
Come on! Get real.
Verse? where does the bible say any of this? Didn't the bible say "And I will also give you what you did not ask for-riches and fame! No other king in all the world will be compared to you for the rest of your life!." Kings 3:13
The Bible also says "He also told them this parable: "Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit?" Luke 6:39 So ask Jesus Christ to open your eyes, to take off the scales off your eyes.
The sentence with the camel is an old Israeli proverb. The eye of the needle is a small hole in a wall where camels used to have to squeeze through. They had to get on their knees to get through the hole. So it is not impossible. It is just very difficult! This is what the phrase means!
AMEN!
According to the bible there is also a spiritual understanding to this. For Jesus taught in parables and came to teach us of the kingdom of heaven (spiritual kingdom ) not of this earth only.. A deeper understanding of this is Jesus spoke of 'Spiritually Rich' people aswell.those who feel that they arent sinners.. the ones that don't seek that daily forgiveness nor feel unworthy.. The ones that Seek spiritual enlightenment in their own ways.
Been poor my whole life, working on changing that now... From personal experience. POVERTY cannot be from GOD!
Hello, God bless. "Cannot" is a strong word. Even if poverty is harmful, God can use it to bless you in ways you couldn't imagine. Romans 8:28 "We know that for those who love God, all things work for good, that is, those who were called according to His purpose."
Greed is destroying our World & those consumed by it!!!!
That Timothy verse he quoted is speaking about clergy. You needs to put it in context
Is it just me but idk t like ready it's boring so we'll I get sent to hell by watching or hear the word of God and bible verse???
Waheguru ji
Can't say that I agree!
If wealth is curse the why created the term word wealth in world.......???? If there is no wealth no food ....
Wealth a curse when preachers make it seem like u gave $ 2 God for STUFF...STUFF u cant take with u....they preach God giving things and $ over just God giving jesus...that's enough. Every mega church pastor on TV preaches health and wealth...those r promises God never made... but ppl go n debt 2 give "tithes"
But with God all things are possible
these famous preachers are all wealthy through their churches, oh they only get a moderate paycheck , but all the perks and benefits make them wealthy. I belive a preacher who turns down the travel, the big house , and cars , ect. Not many of us can resist the world.
This man is worth $17 million.
Nearly all of it went to his royalties fund first :)
@@TheM1le he’s still rich 😑
Facts and Christian’s eat this up.
17 million is more than what most Hollywood actors make in their career. It's a good chunk of money.
What is the line of being rich. Compared to alot of people in the world, alot of normal people in the US would be considered rich. Lower class sometimes look at middle class people as rich. What is wealthy and just doing ok I guess? Serious question here.
I almost like this pastor as much as david wilkerson...