I don't know what's more entertaining... Your content or your comment sections... Lol anyway, I think you're right on the temperature being the reason for the plants growing slowly. Anytime I have a setup that requires 80+ degrees, the plants don't thrive quite as good. Even if I'm doing everything else I can do for them. Either way your tank looks awesome with those fish as the focus over the plants. They catch the eye immediately! Even the snail army doesn't subtract from it lol.
I have a 20 gallon long with crypts that have taken over my tank. I’ve noticed crypts thrive when shoved under rocks or wood in the substrate! Love your vids as always!
I also had a problems with snails, to the point my aquarium looked like it was taken by them, but when I put a few assassin snails into my tank the problem slowly disappear. I stil have some snails there but not many and Im completely fine with this balance, and those assassins do not reproduce as normal snails so Im very happy with this solution. Good luck, very nice aquariums and fish you have.
I also have a 90 gallon tank, with 4 discus, 2 angels, 6 cory's and 11 rummynose tetras. I'm trying to get a mix of the rummynose tetras and cardinal tetras, but from the last time I tried stocking up on them I ended up with only one of each. My current purchase of 10 rummynose are doing well now after a couple of weeks, and I just bought 10 cardinal tetra's that started quarantine. I have been through both your plant and pest snail issues, so here are my comments on both. I actually have had my best success with dwarf sag, which actually grew to the top and started growing across the top. I know there are more than one species of saggiteria, so maybe some do better in the warm water than others (I am also at ~84 F). I also bought valisneria, which I can tell the difference from the sag by it's wider leaf, but although it did spread in my tank it never grew to the height that the sag did. Lastly, I bought several types of swords, some of which (ruffled) did well, others (like flame sword) are doing ok, but not the kind of growth I was hoping for. Lastly, the malaysian trumpet snail issue. My outbreak was an unfortunate decision to re-use driftwood which came from a tank that had them. But when I started to see them, I went on a rigorous schedule of removing them at night and early morning, when they are out. After about 6-9 months, I am not finding any. Another thing I bought for my other tanks was the Dennerle snail catcher (from Aquarium Co-op); that works pretty well and would help you get on top of your problem, in addition to the assasin snails and loaches you added.
I got some Malaysian trumpet snails, too, lol. A little indecisive what I'm going to do with them atm because they are in a grow out tank by themselves. I might get some zebra loaches myself. Discus looks great! Thanks for the upload! I also need to get more rummynose lol
That Discus fish is beautiful. The Assassin Snails look cool too. Hopefully, they take care of the infestation. If not, you at least have a bunch of tanks to move your fish to if you need to disinfect the Discus tank.
NOW, that's a school of fish. I admire the rummynose a lot. The new yellow melon is spectacular and makes the tank pop. The zebra's and assassin snails are very interesting. It would be neat seeing them eating the pesky snails. Hugs to Rambo for the great help. S.I.P. Discus(swim)Thanks.
Those trumpet snails are annoying to look at but will balance...the assassin snails work well to combat them...the thing is those trumpet snails are wonderful for your substrate with live plants you no longer need to fertilize n they keep everything stiring down there so no dead spots...they are good for your tank if you can get passed the look
This one's always been an underrated favorite of mine in your fish room. Excited to see it progress. Do you plan on adding plants that are going to grow super high in the background? (if you haven't already)
4:30 Rambo is thinking why there's something in his box 😂 really nice additions, rummy nose have one of the best shoaling behaviour in the hobby and the new discus is really good quality, if i may add a tip i think you should put floating plants because i see that the little discus is a bit stressed. I had discus in the past but one day my aquarium broke and we never had them again, but near my city there's a good breeder and everytime i go to buy something I am a bit tempted to start again, we'll see in the future
Ive had success with dwarf chain loaches eating snails. Assassin's can become a pest also just make sure ypu arent over feeding, thats the biggest thing w snail problems most of the time. It takes longer to feed your fish but it helps if you only feed them what theyll eat
I had a huge snail problem in my tank, and I was looking for the zebra loaches. I couldn't find them anywhere, so I got skunk loaches, and they cleaned up my small mess. Good Luck, I am sure the zebras will do the trick.
Hi Troy, I have a new product for scaping planted aquariums 'Habistax' let me know if you are interested? I'm looking for a youtuber that specializes in Cichlids, this product is ideal for tanks with fish that like to dig and mess with the hardscape.
@@CichlidBros I never suggested you don’t try - it’s great that you did try and I commend you for that. It’s just hard to get them to ever come out of that. Especially when you are trying to reintroduce them back into the same tank. Something that I will recommend is adding a significant group of discus at once to an established discus tank to try and avoid bullying.
Love your fish basement. I like how you bro's do things properly and your uploads are always enjoyable to watch😊 Keep up the good work and thank you for your time and effort what goes into the channel🫵
I love the discus meme. "Oh look that plant turned a different color, Time to die" LOL I own and raise discus fry right now. My adults love breeding so i know the life
Hey Troy , Awesome update video , and The Wet Spot just does everything a little bit better and the Discus a lot BIGGER 💛 Hopefully you can get the situation to the acceptable stage , which has to be 100% totally eradicated !!! Just be very mindful of how you feed the aquarium especially if the Loaches are not handling the mission of complete annihilation with no chance of the dreaded pest snails being reincarnated, I swear it's almost like having a bunch of Mr. Smiths rooting around in the substrate. Which is what I think might be the the one thing that I would consider doing if I were in your situation and whenever you are doing your regular maintenance I would manually remove as much of the substrate using a 3/4" ID X 1" OD and the local True Value or similar should have the perfect match which obviously I have been down the road and I prefer the hose to be 7 or 8' and then the oval shape is also a little better for control and seems to not get clogged up like a garden hose does ? It also is really good for the Cory technique for pinching as the goal is to remove the most substrate with the least amount of water . Then I would pour off most of the water and then have a new tarp laying somewhere in full sun 🌅 Whatever you think is best for you and the killers and I will wish you and your fish basement the best 🔎🔍
I think u need a white background or a litter background. Discus looks very thin, not sure if u feed animal heart mix, but that may be little difficult for tetras, and I think u can add congo tetra that looks better than these
@@CichlidBros Great! I have had alot of chats about them but with mixed information. Was hopng to see first hand how efffective they are! have a great day!
The assassin snails will multiply if they aren’t eaten by the loaches. The discus numbers are too small. Have at least 6. Also, I don’t know what you are feeding your discus but the MTS are exploding in your tank probably from over feeding
@@CichlidBros hey, you do you. Discus do better in groups of at least 6. Siphon the bottom if there’s excess food. Happy to help you. Also there is a wealth of info on simply discus forum. Check it out!
@@CichlidBros brother, I’ve been keeping fish before you were born. You may not like the truth but be open to the idea that your way is not best way. I’ll be me, you so you.
Great new fish, Troy. Loves those discus!
Thank you!
I don't know what's more entertaining... Your content or your comment sections... Lol anyway, I think you're right on the temperature being the reason for the plants growing slowly. Anytime I have a setup that requires 80+ degrees, the plants don't thrive quite as good. Even if I'm doing everything else I can do for them. Either way your tank looks awesome with those fish as the focus over the plants. They catch the eye immediately! Even the snail army doesn't subtract from it lol.
Haha for sure. Thanks for watching! 👊🏻👊🏻
I have a 20 gallon long with crypts that have taken over my tank. I’ve noticed crypts thrive when shoved under rocks or wood in the substrate! Love your vids as always!
I also had a problems with snails, to the point my aquarium looked like it was taken by them, but when I put a few assassin snails into my tank the problem slowly disappear. I stil have some snails there but not many and Im completely fine with this balance, and those assassins do not reproduce as normal snails so Im very happy with this solution. Good luck, very nice aquariums and fish you have.
I also have a 90 gallon tank, with 4 discus, 2 angels, 6 cory's and 11 rummynose tetras. I'm trying to get a mix of the rummynose tetras and cardinal tetras, but from the last time I tried stocking up on them I ended up with only one of each. My current purchase of 10 rummynose are doing well now after a couple of weeks, and I just bought 10 cardinal tetra's that started quarantine. I have been through both your plant and pest snail issues, so here are my comments on both. I actually have had my best success with dwarf sag, which actually grew to the top and started growing across the top. I know there are more than one species of saggiteria, so maybe some do better in the warm water than others (I am also at ~84 F). I also bought valisneria, which I can tell the difference from the sag by it's wider leaf, but although it did spread in my tank it never grew to the height that the sag did. Lastly, I bought several types of swords, some of which (ruffled) did well, others (like flame sword) are doing ok, but not the kind of growth I was hoping for. Lastly, the malaysian trumpet snail issue. My outbreak was an unfortunate decision to re-use driftwood which came from a tank that had them. But when I started to see them, I went on a rigorous schedule of removing them at night and early morning, when they are out. After about 6-9 months, I am not finding any. Another thing I bought for my other tanks was the Dennerle snail catcher (from Aquarium Co-op); that works pretty well and would help you get on top of your problem, in addition to the assasin snails and loaches you added.
Always love getting some new fish great vid!!!
Thanks 👍
I got some Malaysian trumpet snails, too, lol. A little indecisive what I'm going to do with them atm because they are in a grow out tank by themselves. I might get some zebra loaches myself. Discus looks great! Thanks for the upload! I also need to get more rummynose lol
I think the combination of fish that you have in there looks really nice. Hopefully you’ll be able to eradicate your pest snails.
Thank you!
You always try to save a fish.....😊
Always!
That Discus fish is beautiful. The Assassin Snails look cool too. Hopefully, they take care of the infestation. If not, you at least have a bunch of tanks to move your fish to if you need to disinfect the Discus tank.
Thank you, and agreed!
NOW, that's a school of fish. I admire the rummynose a lot. The new yellow melon is spectacular and makes the tank pop. The zebra's and assassin snails are very interesting. It would be neat seeing them eating the pesky snails. Hugs to Rambo for the great help. S.I.P. Discus(swim)Thanks.
Thanks! Finally getting excited about this tank again
Those trumpet snails are annoying to look at but will balance...the assassin snails work well to combat them...the thing is those trumpet snails are wonderful for your substrate with live plants you no longer need to fertilize n they keep everything stiring down there so no dead spots...they are good for your tank if you can get passed the look
This one's always been an underrated favorite of mine in your fish room. Excited to see it progress. Do you plan on adding plants that are going to grow super high in the background? (if you haven't already)
Thank you! And maybe. The plants in the background right now should do that if they grow in more
4:30 Rambo is thinking why there's something in his box 😂 really nice additions, rummy nose have one of the best shoaling behaviour in the hobby and the new discus is really good quality, if i may add a tip i think you should put floating plants because i see that the little discus is a bit stressed.
I had discus in the past but one day my aquarium broke and we never had them again, but near my city there's a good breeder and everytime i go to buy something I am a bit tempted to start again, we'll see in the future
Ive had success with dwarf chain loaches eating snails. Assassin's can become a pest also just make sure ypu arent over feeding, thats the biggest thing w snail problems most of the time. It takes longer to feed your fish but it helps if you only feed them what theyll eat
Embrace the snails and get puffers! 😂
No thanks to both of those things.
@@CichlidBroshaha fair enough. 😂
I had a huge snail problem in my tank, and I was looking for the zebra loaches. I couldn't find them anywhere, so I got skunk loaches, and they cleaned up my small mess. Good Luck, I am sure the zebras will do the trick.
yep always try sometimes the fish has only survived because its a real fighter that when you get surprised and it all goes well
assassin snails !
Third video in a week🎉🎉🎉...Always looking forward to the uploads.New tank mates look good especially the assassin snails 🐌.Hope they do the job bro
I would love to keep Discus. Unfortunately my water parameters (pH 8.2 and dH-18 ) are not ideal. 😢
In my experience the assain snails would be enough!
Hoping so!
How long do you typically quarantine?
Usually 3-4 weeks
Can you use Expel-P and Paracleanse together at the same time?
Yeah you can. I did them separately tho
You must spend a fortune on dechlorinator and food 👍
😅
Hi Troy, I have a new product for scaping planted aquariums 'Habistax' let me know if you are interested? I'm looking for a youtuber that specializes in Cichlids, this product is ideal for tanks with fish that like to dig and mess with the hardscape.
I keep cichlids. And i think this product is amazing! I've backed habistax on kickstarter. I hope it gets the traction it deserves. 🐠🐠
I always disinfect new plants by dropping them in a bath with Alum for 30 seconds. Never ever had even one snail
Yeah wish I had done that
A discus that turns black and stops eating has such a small chance of ever thriving.
Cool man. Doesn’t mean I’m not gonna try…
@@CichlidBros I never suggested you don’t try - it’s great that you did try and I commend you for that. It’s just hard to get them to ever come out of that. Especially when you are trying to reintroduce them back into the same tank.
Something that I will recommend is adding a significant group of discus at once to an established discus tank to try and avoid bullying.
With this snail problem I thought we were gonna see a pufferfish ☹️
Prob wouldn’t do well with discus
Love your fish basement. I like how you bro's do things properly and your uploads are always enjoyable to watch😊
Keep up the good work and thank you for your time and effort what goes into the channel🫵
Thank you, really appreciate it!
I love the discus meme. "Oh look that plant turned a different color, Time to die" LOL I own and raise discus fry right now. My adults love breeding so i know the life
Assassin snails area incredible. I ordered 5 for my small planted tank, and they eliminated the pest snails quickly.
Those pesky Malaysian trumpet snails are nightmare. I added around 10 Cory fish so no food on bottom also some algae eating crew
Maybe put co2 on the tank. The temp is too high for the pants, what is the pH of the water, could be too hard....
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I love discuss but they are do pricey in my area!! 😥
How hard is your guy’s water there?
I have tiger loaches
Any chance you could get a small species of puffer for the snail problem? I know they love snails
Wouldn’t work with discus
She’s stonewalling us 😂🧂
I was hoping someone would enjoy that reference
won't the zebra loaches just eat the assasin snails also?
I cover this in the video
very cool video amazing unboxing & beautiful tanks
Thank you 👍
@@CichlidBros your welcome anytime
Hey Troy , Awesome update video , and The Wet Spot just does everything a little bit better and the Discus a lot BIGGER 💛
Hopefully you can get the situation to the acceptable stage , which has to be 100% totally eradicated !!! Just be very mindful of how you feed the aquarium especially if the Loaches are not handling the mission of complete annihilation with no chance of the dreaded pest snails being reincarnated, I swear it's almost like having a bunch of Mr. Smiths rooting around in the substrate. Which is what I think might be the the one thing that I would consider doing if I were in your situation and whenever you are doing your regular maintenance I would manually remove as much of the substrate using a 3/4" ID X 1" OD and the local True Value or similar should have the perfect match which obviously I have been down the road and I prefer the hose to be 7 or 8' and then the oval shape is also a little better for control and seems to not get clogged up like a garden hose does ? It also is really good for the Cory technique for pinching as the goal is to remove the most substrate with the least amount of water . Then I would pour off most of the water and then have a new tarp laying somewhere in full sun 🌅 Whatever you think is best for you and the killers and I will wish you and your fish basement the best 🔎🔍
I have the jungle river sand too! I really like it.
It’s one of my favorite! Except for the thousand 🐌 in it at the moment lol
@CichlidBros I too had to get loaches for my fish tank lol. Cleaned it right up haha
I think u need a white background or a litter background. Discus looks very thin, not sure if u feed animal heart mix, but that may be little difficult for tetras, and I think u can add congo tetra that looks better than these
I would probably never do a white background and I covered the rest of this in the video
I use the snails and they really worked forme
Hoping the same happens here!
Hey! Im realy interested in seeing how well thos eassassin snails are doing their job! cant wait for an update on that!
Best wishes from Sweden!
The snails have definitely faded away already. They must be doing their job well!
@@CichlidBros Great! I have had alot of chats about them but with mixed information. Was hopng to see first hand how efffective they are! have a great day!
The assassin snails will multiply if they aren’t eaten by the loaches. The discus numbers are too small. Have at least 6. Also, I don’t know what you are feeding your discus but the MTS are exploding in your tank probably from over feeding
Well, I disagree with all of this but thanks for watching 🤷🏻♂️
@@CichlidBros hey, you do you. Discus do better in groups of at least 6. Siphon the bottom if there’s excess food. Happy to help you. Also there is a wealth of info on simply discus forum. Check it out!
Didn’t ask for your help, nor do I think the “advice” here is 100% true. I don’t read a forum and take that for fact. Just sayin. You do you too
@@CichlidBros brother, I’ve been keeping fish before you were born. You may not like the truth but be open to the idea that your way is not best way. I’ll be me, you so you.