IDAHO 4 | Sigma Chi and Idaho Victim Family's Strange Behavior

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  • @Lez_awake
    @Lez_awake 8 місяців тому +98

    I’ve been screaming about this for a while now but I was told to stop being insensitive
    I’m so glad you are putting it out there, it’s all just gross

    • @agapelove2853
      @agapelove2853 8 місяців тому +11

      More like EVIL

    • @indigomoon777
      @indigomoon777 8 місяців тому +4

      I’ve kept my mouth shut but I’ve really been thinking about the strangeness.

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 6 місяців тому +2

      Good for you. I don’t agree with this new culture of not saying things so no one gets triggered or offended. No one in this life is exempt from being offended and the new generation wants to silence opinions they dislike by calling it offensive.

  • @truecrimedesign
    @truecrimedesign 8 місяців тому +35

    Fuck it I’ll say it. They sacrificed Ethan.

    • @CasperWest
      @CasperWest  8 місяців тому +6

      THIS! 😳💣💥

    • @BubblesandSudz
      @BubblesandSudz 8 місяців тому +2

      💯

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 7 місяців тому +8

      Ethan moved out of the frat house and did not want to have to do hazing again as he was a 2nd year freshman. There are also rumors that the kid that drowned actually passed during a hazing incident and Ethan knew it. Add in the Loach fight and the fact that Ethan was “betraying them” and the EX on the side of the building and it seems like a sacrifice. The name LUKE is yelled on the Linda Lane video at 243am and 33 secs, could that be Lukas the new Sigma Chi? The 4-5 people running were frat guys. IMO.

    • @BubblesandSudz
      @BubblesandSudz 6 місяців тому +3

      God almighty mosses
      You're f-ing right, DAMM

    • @LG21-5
      @LG21-5 20 днів тому

      😂TCD

  • @sparkykitty6870
    @sparkykitty6870 8 місяців тому +35

    The parents wanted the house demolished .
    Yes, investigate sigma chi!

    • @CasperWest
      @CasperWest  8 місяців тому +3

      This is so true, I forgot about that!

    • @1allstarman
      @1allstarman 7 місяців тому +1

      yeah and what that mean now that the defense attorneys have submitted the bombshell alibi affidavit ? All that evidence gone if Bryan ends up being acquitted !

  • @BlueBentley426
    @BlueBentley426 8 місяців тому +148

    It makes no sense for the Chapin's to not be in court to support their son. It doesn't matter how they feel about the negativity surrounding the case, they are supposed to be there. They are strange.

    • @criminalconfidential
      @criminalconfidential 8 місяців тому +12

      That part doesnt seem that odd to me. My sister was murdered and the trial was 5 years later, my stepdad didnt attend. Our mom didnt attend but thats bc she isnt alive. But his reasoning is he didnt want to reopen those wounds. But however, he did attend some of the court dates in the very beginning.

    • @mariannegaetanopulma4077
      @mariannegaetanopulma4077 8 місяців тому +11

      You do understand that they will show the body's as they were found and the bodies at autopsy. from the brutality of the killing, I wouldn't want to be further traumatized with those images.

    • @shortcake211
      @shortcake211 8 місяців тому +25

      I’m I the only one who thinks it’s weird that the symbols for their fraternity are the same as the initials of 2 of the victims. And the 2 victims were definitely with them earlier that night.
      Coincidence????
      I don’t believe in them.
      💔

    • @marionm5311
      @marionm5311 8 місяців тому +18

      Has Anyone seen a Birth Certificate and Photos of The Baby Triplets?

    • @KeepNitReeel
      @KeepNitReeel 8 місяців тому +2

      I bet not!

  • @sarahkelson8386
    @sarahkelson8386 8 місяців тому +81

    Ethan's mother acts just like Kiley Rodney's mother. Twisted.

    • @llamamama2910
      @llamamama2910 8 місяців тому

      You can’t know how people will react-she is circling the wagons with her remaining kids

    • @sarahkelson8386
      @sarahkelson8386 8 місяців тому +12

      @@llamamama2910 Seems like she is circling the wagons right where the massacre happened. Think that is a bit odd.

    • @llamamama2910
      @llamamama2910 8 місяців тому +2

      @@sarahkelson8386 the fraternity is a big part of both her boy’s lives. The shared house was just that until it became a murder scene

    • @AuntClara0911
      @AuntClara0911 8 місяців тому

      Exacty

    • @bewell6019
      @bewell6019 8 місяців тому +1

      I perceive that in both cases there is information about the case that is not publicly known.
      That it is embarrassing to the family to some degree if/when it will be revealed, and they're conducting themselves on that basis. They'd not mind if it meant getting their loved one back, but absent that,.. they figure it's best to minimize as much as possible (as any of us would).

  • @LoriESCOTT
    @LoriESCOTT 8 місяців тому +164

    That dang scholarship felt like a payoff to me. It's all just freaking bizarre!

    • @ladadog3977
      @ladadog3977 8 місяців тому +20

      I can Imaging their reasoning. "We can't bring him back, but we can get free college for the other two, if we just keep our mouths shut. If he had done his schoolwork, and stayed in his own room at night, this would never have happened. He got mixed up with the wrong girl."

    • @Victoriah1923
      @Victoriah1923 8 місяців тому

      So people from all around the world donated to the scholarship with good intentions then the university used it as hush money? What are they paying the Chapin's for? You really think it's not possible that a mentally unstable, unhinged man obsessed with knowing how it feels to kill someone is not what happened?

    • @BlackStump172
      @BlackStump172 8 місяців тому +3

      @@ladadog3977I hope that is not true but perhaps it is so .

    • @criminalconfidential
      @criminalconfidential 8 місяців тому

      The fraternity started the EC fund TWO days after the murders. That seems kind of quick to me. And I read in an article that the chapins donated the most money out of everyone and Mazie donated and money from Ethan‘s own bank account was donated, but no mention of Hunter donating.

    • @roba.8907
      @roba.8907 8 місяців тому +4

      @@ladadog3977 Yeah, I agree. They know the truth about what happened and that Ethan died ~ 2am. That’s why his mom said in an on camera interview “2am is a dark hour and will never be the same for our family”. She also said they have no interest in following the trial - likely because they know BK wasn’t responsible and justice won’t be served. Of course, they also know, they all remain safe in their silence…

  • @krashhhhh
    @krashhhhh 8 місяців тому +115

    How
    Truly weird. Can you say bribery/hush money! Mom is weird!

    • @karmaklutz
      @karmaklutz 8 місяців тому

      Mama Chapin is a witch 🧹

    • @agapelove2853
      @agapelove2853 8 місяців тому +17

      She KNOWS

    • @FlossyMae843
      @FlossyMae843 8 місяців тому +13

      What did Mom say...2AM is a dark hour for them. She definitely knows and after that she has never spoken another word guess that money helped. Smh as a mother I will never understand it. I wouldn't even let my children go back to that school.

    • @BubblesandSudz
      @BubblesandSudz 7 місяців тому

      100 %

  • @CrypticConversions
    @CrypticConversions 8 місяців тому +88

    I've been saying this family is strange for a long time, and I get 'rebuked' for it whenever I mention it on other sites. OH WELL. Stacie has been obscenely opportunistic with the publishing of her book, hawking it around the country. They sent their kids right back to that college. The daughter was Sigma Chi's Sweetheart. Hunter gets a scholarship. UHHH... it's as if they are not afraid that Ethan's murderer will go after the other kids. What do they know? Stacie said 2:00 am was a dark hour for them. She said that while the PCA had stated the estimated time of death was 4:00 am. Now we know it's closer to 2:00am. How did she get this 'insider' info? I'll finish watching the video now. I was just so excited that I could get this out of my system. Heaven and hell are real, and there are some real demons in the flesh on our planet.

    • @agapelove2853
      @agapelove2853 8 місяців тому +8

      Yes 💯 AGREE
      AND YOUR LAST WORDS OF A HEAVEN & HELL…. I believe Ethan is in Heaven … his mother, Sigma Chi alleged once upon a time brothers, well you all call it where their eternally home will be
      I digress

    • @KrimeKitty
      @KrimeKitty 8 місяців тому +8

      💯💯💯 You said everything I came here to say.

    • @BlackStump172
      @BlackStump172 8 місяців тому +1

      👍

    • @camlacasse3760
      @camlacasse3760 7 місяців тому

      Is hunter now at Sigma Chi as he was in a different fraternity?

  • @falconquest2068
    @falconquest2068 8 місяців тому +71

    Me, me, I know the answer! Uh yeah, Sigma Chi needs to be investigated big time!

    • @lynnhubbard844
      @lynnhubbard844 8 місяців тому +11

      they were...all lawyered up

    • @davidtiessen7713
      @davidtiessen7713 8 місяців тому +5

      yup, the 4 people caught in cop cam at 3am, heading towards/practically right at Sigma Chi, and coming from the direction of - the scene of the crime. Who were they? why were they running? From? To? Who can corroborate/their alibi? They need to come forward clarify/eliminate their suspect. A manhunt needs to find them. Ethan apparently knew of the hazed/ water boarded guy that "accidentally" drowned the night of Sigma Chi party.

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 7 місяців тому

      @@davidtiessen7713at 243am and 30 seconds on the linda lane video someone yells LUKE! Go figure one of the 2022 Sigma Chi new members is named LUKAS

    • @Deepblueseas-s5l
      @Deepblueseas-s5l 7 місяців тому

      One was said 2 be a female with a pony tail. Exactly who were they?

  • @sommerrae
    @sommerrae 8 місяців тому +94

    I believe the brother knows more.

    • @anneloving8405
      @anneloving8405 8 місяців тому +19

      Definately

    • @terryrichards2290
      @terryrichards2290 8 місяців тому

      Both looked at each other as if ...after the family first spoke in public - ​that gave me the chills🎉@@anneloving8405

    • @jeannehammond851
      @jeannehammond851 8 місяців тому +13

      Completely agree with you.

    • @fullmoon3950
      @fullmoon3950 8 місяців тому +10

      ABSOLUTELY!!!

    • @sstone1940
      @sstone1940 8 місяців тому +8

      Totally agree

  • @sabrom
    @sabrom 8 місяців тому +52

    I think at the Hair initiation, Ethan was laughin at his frat buddy at the time
    but when that "Loach" guy was getting his hair mohawked and Ethan wasn't
    smiling? that is the guy he was havin beef with and apparently got into the
    fight that night with him..

    • @Emis_Dad
      @Emis_Dad 8 місяців тому +10

      Loach and berrie...the road ragers, allegedly #g #juice #ghb #hudalondon #bubblywaters #unfilteredlucky #arhayes

    • @indigomoon777
      @indigomoon777 8 місяців тому

      Yes

    • @deeevans5342
      @deeevans5342 8 місяців тому +1

      Loach looks like a hater and very sus. Loach is from Utah. Loach was so jealous of Ethan.

  • @FifiJustice-pd8tf
    @FifiJustice-pd8tf 8 місяців тому +62

    Did anyone else saw the video, of Ethan's family, driving to Disney? At Ethan's 10th birthday? The mother tells them the surprise that they are on their way to Disney.. and the she tells Ethan something like; you are 10 today, and we didnt even think that you would get to the teenage year!
    WHAT?? What did she meant by that???
    That is weird.....

    • @llamamama2910
      @llamamama2910 8 місяців тому +12

      The triplets were probably all premature, one may have been weaker, maybe he had a childhood illness?

    • @AuntClara0911
      @AuntClara0911 8 місяців тому +37

      I get this weird feeling, intuition that Ethan was considered the black sheep or scapegoat of the family which to me means he was the "normal" one. That mother went to CrimeCon only mnths after her son brutally murdered. She was cool as ice it was creepy AF IMO. I'd bet 💰Xana not liked, welcomed or excepted by Ethan's family & judged for the actions & behaviors of her parents. What wonderful, caring folks that family is Not!

    • @musicalcontessa4275
      @musicalcontessa4275 8 місяців тому +14

      If they are triplets, it is all 3's birthdays----she didn't mention it was the other 2 kid's birthdays? Yeah, you are right, that IS weird.

    • @sonialariviere4700
      @sonialariviere4700 8 місяців тому +3

      @@timelessvoid4186 i cant remember the channel i saw this short footage. I tried to find it, so far i havent. But its not possible to forget that moment, i had chills.

    • @purplefeather69
      @purplefeather69 8 місяців тому +5

      I haven't seen it but I'd like to find it because how you described it sounds off. Ethan could of been their accident prone kid, and possibly why she said that. It could of been one of those inside jokes in the family. "Ethan is all boy. He's always getting hurt. One of these days he's gonna k!ll himself"! Which the last sentence is a sick thing to say, but people say stupid sh!t. To say it's his 10th birthday singling him out as if it's only his birthday is very strange. I could see my mate saying something like that being a person that's not articulate with their words. But she is articulate with her words.😮

  • @CasperWest
    @CasperWest  8 місяців тому +41

    Thank you for all of your support!🤠 Please give this video a 👍(LIKE)

    • @planetclay
      @planetclay 8 місяців тому +7

      thank you for some of the best info out there...well-produced as well.

    • @christinawelsh3417
      @christinawelsh3417 8 місяців тому +10

      Yes Casper your not afraid to lay out the TRUTH. What happens in the dark will ALWAYS come to light!!! ⭐

    • @Emis_Dad
      @Emis_Dad 8 місяців тому +7

      You and bubbly waters cover this case very open and insightful...great work, great video

  • @susanw-cv8vg
    @susanw-cv8vg 8 місяців тому +89

    The parents and especially the mother need to wake the hell up. The rumors according to
    Videos are more than a conspiracy theory. To ignore it is beyond comprehension. If that
    had been my son I would have been all over this.

    • @agapelove2853
      @agapelove2853 8 місяців тому +12

      You know it and H**L WOULD BE COMING WITH ME

    • @susanw-cv8vg
      @susanw-cv8vg 8 місяців тому +2

      @@agapelove2853 EXACTLY. IT JUST ASTOUNDS ME. PLUS THOSE KIDS KNOW

  • @deeevans5342
    @deeevans5342 8 місяців тому +104

    Why no one wants to talk about that fight that allegedly happened that night. 😳 😳

    • @CasperWest
      @CasperWest  8 місяців тому +55

      😳 Yep, Sigma Chi did a good job burying that story.

    • @strawberryjam119
      @strawberryjam119 8 місяців тому +18

      That’s right, not one person of note mentions it ever! Makes you wonder.

    • @Emis_Dad
      @Emis_Dad 8 місяців тому +9

      Sus af

    • @sunnydays316
      @sunnydays316 8 місяців тому +10

      @@strawberryjam119people are talking about it that is for sure. 🧐

    • @davidreph5210
      @davidreph5210 8 місяців тому +5

      i will say that they could only possibly talk about it up to the point the gag order was initiated.. they cant talk about anything now.

  • @KathrynloveX11
    @KathrynloveX11 8 місяців тому +33

    I just am glad more people are talking about this, it just doesnt sit well with me

  • @claudiacalderon6606
    @claudiacalderon6606 8 місяців тому +67

    She acts like she never lost her other son!😢

    • @noelinerenwick5347
      @noelinerenwick5347 7 місяців тому

      That moment sure does, so what does that tell you, that he has been sacrificed

  • @LoriESCOTT
    @LoriESCOTT 8 місяців тому +82

    Am I crazy or does Morgan look almost identical to Hunter Chapin! I can't decide if they are just weird or if Ethan was sacrificed and they know it! The book, the concerts, even the vigil. Her last words were," WE ARE PROUD VANDALS!" not how wonderful her son was and how his life got stolen from him . Not I love Ethan always but we are proud vandals. Well that's beautiful Stacie.

    • @christinawelsh3417
      @christinawelsh3417 8 місяців тому +3

      Am I misunderstanding or aren't they triplets???

    • @christian_noel
      @christian_noel 8 місяців тому +6

      Who is Morgan?

    • @sunnydays316
      @sunnydays316 8 місяців тому +20

      And never mention Xana. They seemed so in love and the family never mentions her 😢 😞

    • @venus3200
      @venus3200 8 місяців тому +4

      ⁠@@christinawelsh3417yes Ethan maize and the kid hunter standing next to Morgan wallen in the green is the 3rd triplet.. Morgan isn’t related to the chapins as far as,I know

    • @AuntClara0911
      @AuntClara0911 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@christinawelsh3417 Yes triplets

  • @deeevans5342
    @deeevans5342 8 місяців тому +24

    Excellent research and work that you put in on your live.

  • @karlastraight2458
    @karlastraight2458 8 місяців тому +8

    Mrs. Chapin astounds me. 1st time she is seen after Ethan's death she is this down on the farm housewife. Next time I see he she is dressed to the nines (makeup, jewelry, nails done) in smart business clothes. She makes a flippant remark like "oh well Ethan's gone" like sh'es talking about a lost pair of shoes. She has turned Ethans death into a career- Crime Con speaker, expensive tumblers, books, tulips. They stand by the school and frasts 100 percent in the media, and surprise, surprise their remaining children get scholarship and Sigma sweetheart awards. Sounds to me like the frat and the school are paying them off (via the two kids) school cheerleaders and keep their mouths shut about any truths they might know. Your kids passing should NOT be a platform to sell merchadise

    • @BubblesandSudz
      @BubblesandSudz 8 місяців тому +1

      💯

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 7 місяців тому +2

      Why are there so many checkerboard flannel shirts being worn in this crime. The Bandfield, maisie, Ethan, almost everyone had a pic in a checkerboard flannel. Symbolism.

  • @tsmith3286
    @tsmith3286 8 місяців тому +22

    I watched part of a recent documentary where they interviewed the parents of a guy who was murdered back around 1995. The parents both cried a few times during the interview. All these years later and the pain is still there. Ethan's mom has that sandy crook look about her. The constant odd smile never once mentioning how her son died a horrible death and all that he will miss. Seems completely unaffected. I know everyone is different and I'm sorry but after seeing this WTH???? If I was Hunter both me and my sister would never step foot back into that town again.

  • @truecrimedesign
    @truecrimedesign 8 місяців тому +8

    YES thank you for having the bravery to confront this topic… it needs to be said

    • @CasperWest
      @CasperWest  8 місяців тому +1

      As always TCD! It needed to be said. fuk it 🎤💣

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 3 місяці тому

      You guys have been quiet lately! Hope everything is okay! You’re content and interactions are missed! ❤

  • @edithmahoney9094
    @edithmahoney9094 8 місяців тому +85

    I dont care who saids what ...something just isn't right with this family especially the mom ...

    • @rmaria517
      @rmaria517 7 місяців тому

      Very, very, peculiar behavior she has.
      Infact, it's rather sick. IMO
      That whole community sounds like an
      Alfred Hitchcock episode.

    • @BubblesandSudz
      @BubblesandSudz 6 місяців тому

      True enough

  • @glendabrady9996
    @glendabrady9996 8 місяців тому +13

    There’s so many sketchy people in this story. Mind boggling

  • @sspade.1
    @sspade.1 8 місяців тому +15

    There's so much more to this story that we aren't being told. Oftentimes, the truth hurts.

  • @Beautifullybrokenwoman
    @Beautifullybrokenwoman 8 місяців тому +69

    I don’t understand why Hunter was given the scholarship thing,
    I mean absolutely no disrespect to him but it makes it look like they’ve pandered their way into keeping the chapins on side and if the triplet brother and sister of a murder victim still attend the university then it kinda seems it’s safe cos it pretty sure parents will have had questions and worries and the answers would be even the chapins have faith in the uni type thing….
    Oh and then sister being the sweetheart even though someone else had been given that title a few months prior which is usually only one per year…again it’s like out right bribery and buttering them up!
    Free tuition for both for the rest of their uni days tho I guess eh💁🏼‍♀️
    Prob refunded what they initially paid too!

    • @Lez_awake
      @Lez_awake 8 місяців тому +8

      Agreed on every w!

    • @lindajohnson.
      @lindajohnson. 8 місяців тому +3

      I don’t agree with the brother getting the first scholarship. Seems like a fund that the family gets to use . 😢😢😢😢

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 7 місяців тому +1

      My guess is each family got a large check from the university to go along with the BK narrative.

    • @rmaria517
      @rmaria517 7 місяців тому

      Glad I've never seen her on TV. Sounds like she's an evil witch.
      I'm staying far away from Idaho. People skinning dogs, wearing ski masks n sheets and playing with knives are not my kind of people. They can keep all their potatoes. No Thank you. 😑

  • @anneloving8405
    @anneloving8405 8 місяців тому +34

    First borns are the sacrifice

    • @heatherleigh1758
      @heatherleigh1758 8 місяців тому +5

      But why?

    • @Darcey-t4s
      @Darcey-t4s 8 місяців тому +1

      Amen I am 3rd

    • @Darcey-t4s
      @Darcey-t4s 8 місяців тому

      😝 😝 😝 😝 gross

    • @101kmontgomery
      @101kmontgomery 8 місяців тому

      Unfortunately for me and my two parents long gone but my troublemaker older brother and only sibling is alive and well. You're an idiot.

  • @Boymama4
    @Boymama4 8 місяців тому +35

    I believe Stacy Chapin is alumni and they give a lot of money to the university is what another channel stated. Hunter and Maxie got those awards right after Ethan died and seem so happy. Very weird to me

  • @dawniesmith6825
    @dawniesmith6825 8 місяців тому +32

    I've lost my husband and am still grieving his loss after 3 years, never could I imagine my child yet act the way the Chapins have acted. The Lord God knows tenth commandment, thou shall not covenant "greed" will fall upon them for dishonoring their son. Really scholarship to his brother why not a less fortunate student! Greed! All about their image not the memory of their son "just using his name" . Blessings to those beautiful young lives lost❤

  • @Willow-iw4fp
    @Willow-iw4fp 8 місяців тому +7

    Thank you for addressing this. I have thought Ethans parents acting odd about their sons death in regard to the school and moving forward.

  • @Ksizzle316
    @Ksizzle316 8 місяців тому +3

    His smiled turned to a frown when Loach got shaved. Loach is the guy he got in a fight with that night

  • @ladadog3977
    @ladadog3977 8 місяців тому +135

    So she creates a scholarship - and gives it to her kid?

    • @Char_ley
      @Char_ley 8 місяців тому +32

      I thought 💭 what ? That just doesn’t seem right!

    • @karmaklutz
      @karmaklutz 8 місяців тому +30

      Fucking weird right??

    • @janetbrooks.akaspiritwalker
      @janetbrooks.akaspiritwalker 8 місяців тому +25

      Yes, was seen on TV a long time ago. That mother is terrible the way she can't go to court because "it would not have changed anything! She needs to go kick rocks!

    • @karmaklutz
      @karmaklutz 8 місяців тому +6

      @@janetbrooks.akaspiritwalker she needs to join her son

    • @jenniferfarmer1964
      @jenniferfarmer1964 8 місяців тому +13

      The 2nd went to the sister.

  • @JalapenoSmoothie
    @JalapenoSmoothie 8 місяців тому +18

    YES! Someone finally gets it !

  • @tippyhadroncollider
    @tippyhadroncollider 8 місяців тому +8

    Good video, Casper. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.

  • @Susiehighschool
    @Susiehighschool 8 місяців тому +2

    This is THE VIDEO & THE CONTENT I’ve been dying for people to make!! PLEASE keep digging into Greek life. I believe there’s soooooo much more happening than we realize, especially at higher levels

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 3 місяці тому +1

      So happy to see other people excited about this stuff being called out. Casper West, True Crime Design, Veritas Assy, Bubbly Waters, and Neeks Peeks are a few good channels with this type content that goes against the mainstream medias bias narrative! Check them out if you like this channel!

  • @TimeaWebster
    @TimeaWebster 8 місяців тому +27

    I think mom is a bit off, but what do I know!? The scholarship goes to her own son, says a lot imo.

    • @tsmith3286
      @tsmith3286 8 місяців тому +7

      How dare you say she's a bit off when we both know she's completely off her rocker. 🤪

  • @mindyh6125
    @mindyh6125 6 місяців тому +1

    Love your videos. Great content

  • @illusionisms
    @illusionisms 8 місяців тому +23

    It is very difficult to comprehend why Ethan's family has chosen to react as they have. To begin with why in the world would Ethan's brother & sister continued to attend the University still. And collecting all the donations for scholarships while giving the first one to his brother and selecting his sister for the frats Sweetheart, it almost feels like the frats are trying to pay off their guilt. Also its just really off that they have continued to attend the University. Its just not right no matter how one locks at it. Ethans father still looks broken hearted and somehow it feels like the parents know in their hearts that the frats are responsible for their sons death. Its hard not to realize it. Sadly there will never be a full explanation of who, what and why & by whom, this tragedy not only for the sake of his family but also to help those who have been effected by this horrible crime. There needs to be some real answers. It breaks ones heart. 🧐⚖️😢

    • @llamamama2910
      @llamamama2910 8 місяців тому +5

      You don’t necessarily move towns when tragedy strikes-the university is like their home town-they still need to finish their degrees and live their lives though Ethan can’t-it actually honors his memory to do so.

    • @ritawhite2070
      @ritawhite2070 8 місяців тому +10

      Ahh - No 1 - their hometown where they grew up and where the parents live and the kids went to school was Coupeville Washington - I live near there.
      2-I have to keep it short here, but how Ethan‘s mother is making the rest of the family act like hey we’ve moved on we’re never talking about it again we’re not going to trial. Life is good. ! That is NOT NORMAL IT’S A FORM OF GASLIGHTING AND DESPICABLE!

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 7 місяців тому

      @@ritawhite2070isn’t it true that Stacy chapin is on a watchlist for escorts out of Washington? I’ve read that before. I couldn’t find much on it, but it said a specific city in WA.

  • @mosspiglet8766
    @mosspiglet8766 8 місяців тому +13

    It's a pity that their family member had to suffer such a terrible death in order to catapult them all into celebrity stardom.
    It is all very bizarre.
    They are acting as if this tragedy is like winning the lottery, and the generous donations to Ethan's foundation is the college fund for his siblings.

    • @kellydean3497
      @kellydean3497 8 місяців тому

      That’s what the Illuminati does.
      I know firsthand…..

    • @ritawhite2070
      @ritawhite2070 8 місяців тому +3

      Well said!!!

    • @Darcey-t4s
      @Darcey-t4s 8 місяців тому

      Yes

  • @planetclay
    @planetclay 8 місяців тому +27

    besides the Chapin Family Moscow Idaho Mesirah all that and i'm not gonna print the original commentor's name because i didn't get their permission to share> 34 minutes ago (edited)
    Maddie allegedly told Adam that she flushed $70k in drugs a few weeks before and that Kaylee and her know all about the dr*g and human trafficking they were involved in, and they want out of it. This has to do with the former homeowners and trafficking many of the parents are involved in. BTW, Adam L knows the cartel leaders who were there, and he went in July 2023 to Kalispell, Montana to meet Cartel Leader John. The ex-gf (Shayna M) of the other Cartel Leader Doug (Washington) was there at the gas station and Cartel John was talking to her telling her "Bryan K has to be the only K*ller and no one else." She said Adam L showed up and was in the conversation and John told him to follow her down the highway until she is out of the state. This has to do with a dr*g and human (and sex and child) trafficking ring that was ran out of the house, and JJB and the KING (SG), DR and EB. Kaylee and Maddie wanted out of the life they were forced into and they were talking too much about the trafficking and pissing off powerful people. Then, when the KING (according to EB it's SG) owed a $700k debt from trafficking proceeds to JJB and it was way overdue, that was a main motive for this to happen. There are other motives (David L and Ethan) but the main motive has to do with the trafficking debt. BCK is not the k*ller and he was framed long time ago for this crime by Cartel Leader Doug way back in 2016, according to the ex-gf Shayna. BCK refused to join the cartel at 19 years old and he knows all about them. JJB put the HIT on the house and the IDAHO4 and he called in two cartel leaders to help. DR and JJB were actually tasked with giving orders to the frat guys, girls and dr*g dealers to do the redrums. They operated out of the black SUV Mercedes Benz G wagon parked at Linda Lane from 12:30 am to 4:23 am. DR and JJB left at 4:23 am and left orders for others to follow, while they took off on a flight from Pullman to Seattle at 5:20 am .(info from EB) Many people are involved - including LE.

    • @toddturtle5522
      @toddturtle5522 8 місяців тому

      Hi there unless you have actual proof to back up this claim it's just considered accusations and speculation I personally have thought since day 1 this was a set up and Bk was their fall guy I personally believed them and still do that this was infact drug human trafficking that LE along with SG being involved and that they took orders from someone very high up in the cartel I won't go into giving a scenario of how I think it happened but I'd certainly be interested in some valid proof to back it up

    • @ritawhite2070
      @ritawhite2070 8 місяців тому +4

      Who is JJB and DR?
      Thank you so much for sharing - I believe this 100%. It totally sounds like the truth and it makes sense. And now we have the truth of what really happened. Oh my God thank you thank you thank you.!!!

    • @ritawhite2070
      @ritawhite2070 8 місяців тому +7

      The Chapin family act like they’re happy about the trade-off! I mean that mother is often running, making money negotiations getting paid off it’s unbelievable
      My son is now 28 years old, and if he died, I’d be out of my ever loving mind and in a mental institution for a year or more
      She just shines like she’s so happy being interviewed selling books
      And by the way, there’s no way in hell I’d send my other kids back to that school because obviously the killers are still out there !
      But she and her son hunter definitely knew what went down, and that the cartel will be paid for their children’s protection, and their schooling will be paid for, etc.
      And when we got the first interview with Kaylee‘s parents, I thought What???
      You mean They Chose to just stay home and watch football rather than running to the house to get to their deceased daughter are you shitting me?
      And now they’re all dolled up hair done they look like movie stars, how embarrassing and disgusting !
      First interview you can see that SG and his wife sit apart from each other with their daughter in the middle, and in other videos, they don’t walk together but now they are movie stars together you know they’re making money and now they don’t shed a tear anymore!
      I think it’s obvious that Kaylee‘s parents are hell-bent on doing everything they can to make sure everyone believe BK is the murderer - I think they made a deal with the cartel that he’d never speak. A word implicating the cartel or else the rest of his family gets taken out as well.
      And with all the money, the Gonçalves are making with all these interviews I don’t think they’ll have any problem paying back that 700k
      And as to Kaylee, good God, that girl traveled bought clothes also had the party house - how she could afford that lifestyle and how could her parents with all those kids possibly afford the house they live in let it alone paying for Kaylee sorority house, college etc. I mean Kaylee yeah had a job but good God it couldn’t have paid her that much to take all those vacations have a car sell car buy a new used car and then move to Texas I mean, where was this money coming from? Oh yeah, I know drugs that’s obvious, but the whole world will give you hell for saying that about the 4 murdered kids! But something has to make sense! And somebody’s got to say it!

    • @sstone1940
      @sstone1940 8 місяців тому +1

      You’ve posted this a lot.

    • @BlackStump172
      @BlackStump172 8 місяців тому +2

      @@ritawhite2070I lost my daughter seven years ago and it is only in the last eighteen months that my brain is back to normal , but I behaved okay because I had to for my grandson . Perhaps it is like that for Stacey , but a lot is odd with that IU and Fraternity .

  • @HiroshimaMS
    @HiroshimaMS 8 місяців тому +9

    I love your voice, I love your videos!

    • @Lez_awake
      @Lez_awake 8 місяців тому +1

      Me too, we need to hear from you more often please!

  • @marionm5311
    @marionm5311 8 місяців тому +22

    This imo, is Daiseys step up into Masonary.

    • @Emis_Dad
      @Emis_Dad 8 місяців тому +5

      Good point...

  • @ally5894
    @ally5894 8 місяців тому +5

    Great video as always 💜

  • @capemay03
    @capemay03 8 місяців тому +10

    IMO this family is beyond shady.🤬

  • @karrie8349
    @karrie8349 8 місяців тому +8

    I never trusted the CHAPIN FAMILY after Ethan’s death.

  • @samanthawitzman5252
    @samanthawitzman5252 8 місяців тому +3

    It goes so high we'll never know the truth of it ALL

  • @deeevans5342
    @deeevans5342 8 місяців тому +15

    SG said they didn't have to go up stairs meaning what? But they went and unalived Xana and Ethan, Maddie, Kaylee and bypassed the floor DM and BF was on so what does that tell us?

    • @woodfairy7051
      @woodfairy7051 8 місяців тому +1

      That maybe SG didn't consider all the variables when making his plans! Allegedly

    • @FlossyMae843
      @FlossyMae843 8 місяців тому +2

      Or maybe they didn't need to go upstairs cause they already were up there. Idk. I've just tried to look at what he said from all angles.

  • @pubgiant24
    @pubgiant24 8 місяців тому +7

    and she showed up at... CrimeCon

  • @chelseystrange99
    @chelseystrange99 8 місяців тому +2

    Great video!

  • @karmaklutz
    @karmaklutz 8 місяців тому +35

    Cops & Sigma Chi r to blame
    Seems like Ethan's mom likes the fame and notoriety. That family doesn't even seem sad. Just continuing life, now at a higher level bc of their sacrifices...

    • @FlossyMae843
      @FlossyMae843 8 місяців тому +3

      Yeah I always felt like the mom hints at the LE connection with the name of her book. The boy in blue. Not sure if you ever heard the saying about police being the boys in blue.

    • @j.l.spraggins8589
      @j.l.spraggins8589 8 місяців тому +2

      @@FlossyMae843 Excellent observation. 🔎

  • @ohdub1968
    @ohdub1968 8 місяців тому +15

    I don't understand this family

  • @enslie4957
    @enslie4957 8 місяців тому +22

    Needs to be investigated listen to what that guy said

  • @valb9963
    @valb9963 8 місяців тому +13

    Wonder how much the next victim is worth over there?

  • @christinawelsh3417
    @christinawelsh3417 8 місяців тому +12

    Be careful Casper if they are TRULY that big they will always be watching. Just saying...... 😮

  • @larrybailey408
    @larrybailey408 8 місяців тому +6

    It's a SCARY place reminds me of the movie GET OUT, kind a how everybody's mind is possessed.

  • @sstone1940
    @sstone1940 8 місяців тому +2

    Good video!

  • @LoriESCOTT
    @LoriESCOTT 7 місяців тому +1

    I cant believe she compared her sons brutal murder to a country music songer going thru a break up. And Hunter getting that scholarship gave me chills. Sigma chi future illuminati.

  • @angierylee5011
    @angierylee5011 8 місяців тому

    Great work !

  • @dianevandemortel2439
    @dianevandemortel2439 8 місяців тому +7

    Never got why they would sell tulips for scholarships to UI.

    • @ginabeaudette158
      @ginabeaudette158 8 місяців тому +2

      The tulips and clothing items, along with the sales of the book, are supposedly for a charity set up locally in their hometown. They don't make the proceeds publicly available, nor have they been detailed in where the money is going - at least not the last time I looked.

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 7 місяців тому

      The “forget me not” flower is a Masonic symbol. Stacy Chapin wore a blouse covered in them when she did her media tour. The green blouse with blue flowers.

  • @Coco21222
    @Coco21222 8 місяців тому +11

    They def need to be investugated

  • @TrussttN01
    @TrussttN01 8 місяців тому +3

    Mary Jo Kopechne

  • @amylane1227
    @amylane1227 8 місяців тому +15

    Watch get a clue’s video suspect vehicle #5 - re: frat.

  • @myrawells5691
    @myrawells5691 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks l have many thoughts about this family, ones which will remain unspoken. Thank you for this good work much appreciated

  • @kattykakes8135
    @kattykakes8135 8 місяців тому +1

    This was good. TYSM

  • @nibrasge6375
    @nibrasge6375 8 місяців тому +3

    Sigma Chi Fight Night. Look it up. A tradition. Ethan wouldn't 'throw a fight' and gamblers lost money. Course, the the drug trade was involved.
    Money was the motive.
    People who paid their debts lived.
    This was on Fratanon that morning, then 4chan that afternoon.

  • @kaylaread8048
    @kaylaread8048 8 місяців тому +5

    I've been thinking that for months. I think both kids know, who was involved and how it happened. This silence is paid. You don't send your kids there. Unless - someone guarantees you they're safe. And they are, because if they're not, everything comes out. I think, or I hope, that they had no choice. Casper, it's time you spoke about the Rathdrums.

  • @socialbutterfly4146
    @socialbutterfly4146 7 місяців тому +2

    Yeah!! Everything about the Chapins makes the hair of the back of my head go up!! Something is REALLY off about them! They didn’t miss a beat after losing Ethan! They couldn’t look happier! And standing beside that university!!!??? Ick!!!! I just can’t 😡😡😡

  • @Anne-dx8rs
    @Anne-dx8rs 8 місяців тому +2

    I totally agree. I feel weird about hunter and how his family is acting

  • @JamesAdams-f2w
    @JamesAdams-f2w 8 місяців тому +11

    There's something odd about all the parents. When they were younger,they were all hippies
    I don't buy their portrayal.
    Your Friend,
    Hippie

    • @jenniferfarmer1964
      @jenniferfarmer1964 8 місяців тому +4

      Yes I do recall something in those lines,but wasn't the President of the school and the top guy on the police department also part of that story? Was it Bubbles channel maybe.

    • @Emis_Dad
      @Emis_Dad 8 місяців тому +3

      Pagan Norse druid or odinist hippies...or eager to level up at the lodge

    • @kellydean3497
      @kellydean3497 8 місяців тому

      @@Emis_Dadno.
      Illuminati.
      Nothing more☠️

    • @AuntClara0911
      @AuntClara0911 8 місяців тому +1

      In their generation & mine who wasn't a hippie!

  • @rulistening7777
    @rulistening7777 8 місяців тому +5

    Well.... perhaps E's Triplets
    will go on to do good,
    non-narssisstic things in this world.
    So sad to lose a great brother.

  • @PokeMama23
    @PokeMama23 8 місяців тому +2

    I. LOVE. YOUR. VIDEOS

  • @shortcake211
    @shortcake211 8 місяців тому +6

    Why are 2 of the victims initials the same as the symbols for the fraternity?
    Coincidence???
    I don’t think so

  • @karenk3458
    @karenk3458 8 місяців тому +2

    Ethan’s mom rock she went and got a tattoo and the family has managed to grieve outside of the school and the other victims parents view. I respect them and all of the parents who lost their children!

  • @heatherelisevoiselle1013
    @heatherelisevoiselle1013 8 місяців тому +2

    I stayed at the same RV park when my husband was there working in Memphis area, it’s the nicest most family friendly area and park around that area! So it is not uncommon at all for plant workers/construction workers to stay in a nicer park and drive a little further to get to work! There are daily, weekly, and monthly rates! They do have cameras, so they should be able to verify if he was there or left!

  • @nancyalal
    @nancyalal 8 місяців тому +12

    Ms. Chapin is not right in her mind . something very off'

    • @ritawhite2070
      @ritawhite2070 8 місяців тому +1

      Borderline, narcissist, I’m sure!

  • @truecrimedesign
    @truecrimedesign 8 місяців тому +7

    Who are the Chapin’s? Who are they really?

    • @BubblesandSudz
      @BubblesandSudz 8 місяців тому +3

      Freaks

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 7 місяців тому

      I’ve read Stacie has a prostitution charge out of Washington. Having trouble finding it but I’ve read it is there.

    • @derbykitty666
      @derbykitty666 7 місяців тому

      Freemasons/eastern star

    • @BubblesandSudz
      @BubblesandSudz 6 місяців тому

      @tula1433 that's hilarious
      .you made my day lol

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 6 місяців тому

      @@BubblesandSudzlol I wasn’t joking! I saw it in a comment! They used her name before she got married 😂😂😂😂

  • @karenmulloy1085
    @karenmulloy1085 8 місяців тому +5

    That whole family is strange , poor Ethan don't have a voice , at least not from his family!!! 😢❤

  • @Kurious-Kat
    @Kurious-Kat 8 місяців тому +7

    Yes Sigma deleted Ethan and Xana and the rest of the chapins were "rewarded"- 'for the greater good" and Kaylee and Maddie were deleted because of what Kaylee found out and told Maddie who told Adam who then had them deleted. Jack D and Jack S was involved. Dylan participated and Bethany was a witness. Not sure of the blond female who left the house and hoped into the white truck at 2am .. members of LE and the Undercovers were involved IMO
    Sigma Chi,vMasons, Odins, and Bohemians

  • @trevonelove305
    @trevonelove305 4 місяці тому +1

    Casper West has great editing and narrative skills I am benging on this UA-cam channel 🔥

  • @deeevans5342
    @deeevans5342 8 місяців тому +10

    Didn't the Chapins have another Son from a previous marriage if I am not mistaken.

    • @geminitaurusmoon
      @geminitaurusmoon 8 місяців тому +3

      yes, i believe his name was eric.

    • @CasperWest
      @CasperWest  8 місяців тому +6

      Jim Chapin has three kids from previous marriage i believe.

    • @Darcey-t4s
      @Darcey-t4s 8 місяців тому +1

      Dad does was married before Stacy kins

    • @Darcey-t4s
      @Darcey-t4s 8 місяців тому +1

      Jim Chapin is old has another family before this one

    • @geminitaurusmoon
      @geminitaurusmoon 8 місяців тому

      eric, david and nicole.

  • @AuntClara0911
    @AuntClara0911 8 місяців тому +4

    This channel just came into my feed today. I ❤that your investigating this like it should have been right from the start. Also bringing up ?? & Possibilities many fear to touch. You've just gained a new subscriber.

    • @CasperWest
      @CasperWest  8 місяців тому

      Thank you 3x and welcome new subscriber! 🫶🫶🫶

  • @criminalconfidential
    @criminalconfidential 8 місяців тому +8

    Have you watched the 2023 sigma chi rush video?? Full of allegories and little hints at some of the facts and theorys of the case. Watch a few times. The song is about prodigal son and the chosen one. The number 13. FIght club. Hunting. Jack K/Dedly.rabbit hole. DL rabbit hole. Not one mention of Ethan but Hunter got his own solo scene. etc etc

    • @FlossyMae843
      @FlossyMae843 8 місяців тому +1

      🤯😳🤬

    • @CasperWest
      @CasperWest  8 місяців тому +3

      WHAT!? 😳I got to check that video out.

    • @criminalconfidential
      @criminalconfidential 8 місяців тому +2

      @@CasperWestlet me know if you see it or if I’m crazy. What do you think about the grub truck? I’m a huge grub truck nerd. There’s a lot going on there IMO I have found passwords being spoke about, someone showing up three times in three outfits, $200 Mac and cheese, a creepy guy buying food for blondes, just to name a few. I’m on the hunt for the twitch footage that includes the chat bc I believe the timeline is off a few minutes. I’ve only seen a portion of it and there are some interesting things happening in the chat for sure.

    • @roba.8907
      @roba.8907 8 місяців тому

      @@criminalconfidential Hi, the YT creator True Crime Design did an excellent job analyzing the Grub Truck Twitch stream. The fight club was live streaming. Note the cashier say “Someone has fallen, someone is definitely down” referring to E and X. After that, a few people start shouting Xana’s name and “Sweet Dreams” is briefly played. That GT is featured prominently at the beginning of the *nuff movie that’s been leaked on the dark web. I sent the livestream and the movie to AT and the FBI. Major TW, it’s disgusting and I still have nightmares of the horrors perpetrated by those evil people.

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 6 місяців тому +1

      @@criminalconfidentialkeep digging. Yes the things people said on that grub truck video was bizarre. “People have fallen” huh!? 😂

  • @zobobeebo8011
    @zobobeebo8011 8 місяців тому +4

    I know people grieve differently but I have never ever understood this family. I thought maybe as they had triplets they were insensitive to think oh well we have two others, but you'd have to be pretty unfeeling to think that (and sorry if it's out of turn in this instance but some people are like that). I would not want to be at the same place my sibling was murdered, as a parent you'd be more interested in trying to find out who killed your baby not writing books and meeting celebrities, smiling away like you had no care in the world. I guess status is more important to some people than family...

    • @othellewis8931
      @othellewis8931 8 місяців тому

      I actually think Ethan was their favorite, the golden boy, but they need to be strong for the two remaining kids. I admire them for trying to make life bearable for hunter and Maisie.

  • @rkenzie5235
    @rkenzie5235 7 місяців тому +1

    The brother getting the scholarship is weird

  • @b-rad2699
    @b-rad2699 8 місяців тому +3

    The hard on for sigma chi is beyond laughable…😂😂😂

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 7 місяців тому +1

      4-5 people seen running from the crime scene, the post on 4chan was extremely detailed and at that point no one knew anyone from that area, shady money making after the crime etc, It all adds up. If the state can have their theory others can have theirs. Oh and sigma deleted all it’s posts on social media the day after the crime. Why would an upstanding organization lock its social media pages down? And I’ve heard they had a priest come and speak to the sigma chi boys about forgiveness!?

  • @2436crash
    @2436crash 8 місяців тому +2

    That right there. Those hand signs are what I think happened to Ethan. Just like what Kanye said happened to his momma.

  • @KWAHU93
    @KWAHU93 8 місяців тому +3

    So he goes against the sigma chi
    He gets eliminated
    And the family sides with sigma chi
    😬

  • @mollylollipops
    @mollylollipops 8 місяців тому +2

    Lots of high strangeness around this case

  • @lezangrobbler5349
    @lezangrobbler5349 8 місяців тому +2

    This seemed weird from the start, as if they sold him out. Thanks for video💯💜🌻 hope these kids get their fair justice🙏🏻🪬

  • @jeanenestuart8653
    @jeanenestuart8653 8 місяців тому +2

    Steve said on camera Kaylee contacted 911 at 3 am

  • @kellydompiet55
    @kellydompiet55 6 місяців тому +1

    Why would they stay there after that killing, which was Sooo close! OMG GET OUT!!!!!

  • @lynnhubbard844
    @lynnhubbard844 8 місяців тому +2

    Ethan's dad is a sigma chi alum too

  • @Silvinee
    @Silvinee 8 місяців тому +3

    All parents in this case behaved deplorably in my opinion... Including Bryan Kohberger's parents... The bereaved parents are not approaching avenues that might ruin their kids image and refuse to accept that this crime might be drug related... all the efforts to make them look like angels which is unnecessary... What's important now is reaching justice... Not for Ethan's mom who unbelievably is over it and considers the chapter closed... Bryan Kohberger's parents covered their faces and are hiding without ever standing up for their son... I don't get it...

  • @wayneb9463
    @wayneb9463 8 місяців тому +2

    Who wrote the script?

  • @thelmaswanepoel3225
    @thelmaswanepoel3225 8 місяців тому +1

    👋👋👋❤Wow! Love and blessings all the way from South Africa 😀

    • @CasperWest
      @CasperWest  8 місяців тому

      Oh man! wow all the way from South Africa, that is amazing! 🤩🫶

  • @ToiStory74
    @ToiStory74 8 місяців тому +1

    5:06 💯 on point perfectly said

  • @leenoll1491
    @leenoll1491 8 місяців тому +2

    My neighbor & I said it from day 1 when these stories of the family started. Something isn't right & the mom's statement, 2:00 am is a dark hour. This doesn't match the two times of death we've all been told ! And yet I've as yet heard anything about her explaining it. Anne Taylor better ask her at Trial. Let more investigations begin! I truly pray God reveals the Absolute Truth

    • @othellewis8931
      @othellewis8931 8 місяців тому

      Maybe she was awaken by a premonition at that time. It does happen to some people when their kids are in trouble. I have woken up in the night with a kid on my mind. I start praying for them immediately. Thank you God because my kids are alive except 1 miscarriage along time ago now.
      I have always thought it happened when the incident on the bandfield was unfolding.

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 7 місяців тому +1

      @@othellewis8931😂 like when Sandy Ruczek claims she woke up the whole house cause she knew her kid passed away but never called to check?

  • @debrasullivan7479
    @debrasullivan7479 8 місяців тому +3

    Being judgemental of Ethan's Family and their choices is disrespectful to Ethan. These people are living their worst nightmare and to criticize their actions is morally wrong. Be thankful this isnt your families burden to bear.

    • @CasperWest
      @CasperWest  8 місяців тому +7

      I don't believe anyone is free from righteous judgment. Undeniably, their actions are strange and it needs to be voiced. 🗣️

    • @nolies9071
      @nolies9071 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@CasperWest💯💯💯💯

    • @nolies9071
      @nolies9071 8 місяців тому

      Debra, actions speak. And theirs speak something awful!!!!!!

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 7 місяців тому +1

      Not being able to question things is why we ended up in this nightmare politically correct world where people walk on eggshells. If you cannot hold people OR certain groups accountable for fear of “offending someone” that is a problem.

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 7 місяців тому +1

      5:45 this entire line is scripted bs from the university. No college student would list off the agencies like that. They would say “we told the police all we know” they wouldn’t give a detailed robot like response listing the names of all the agencies investigating the crime, and then make a smug remark about not having the resources to figure it out. Sigma Chi and the parents are moving SHADY.

  • @alstefanini8918
    @alstefanini8918 8 місяців тому +3

    Sigma chi is really important….. but I could give a Fck.

  • @kellydean3497
    @kellydean3497 8 місяців тому +3

    Is this the skull and bones fraternity? These families are psycho: 2:25 4 square and 360!!!!