Ukraine: The F-16s Are NOT Arriving.

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  • Опубліковано 21 сер 2024

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  • @sewagridmnds627
    @sewagridmnds627 16 днів тому +7

    Aged like milk, huh?

  • @p.w.5813
    @p.w.5813 21 день тому +8

    Well...

  • @PappyGunn
    @PappyGunn Місяць тому +117

    Nice explanation of the pilot training requirements. It takes years. Then there are the maintenance technicians. Then the logistics network, a huge undertaking. Etc.

    • @hldvoyeur4709
      @hldvoyeur4709 Місяць тому +9

      Excellent point about the ground crews!!!! I work in civilian aviation. Without them, a pilot is a dead meat within weeks.

    • @PappyGunn
      @PappyGunn Місяць тому

      @@hldvoyeur4709 I worked with techs and tech training. They are trades and you can train a basic apprentice in about a year, but it takes years of experience and further training for crew chiefs or specialists like non destructive testing, etc. You can’t field a fighter quickly or cheaply.

    • @darknesstrembles3773
      @darknesstrembles3773 Місяць тому +5

      The maintenance crews and the training have been completed. Ukraine has built many maintenance facilities for the F16. There is no law against Ukraine sending their F16's to another Country for repairs. Armchair pilots do not understand logistics. The support is in place before the Jets arrive. Other Countries have agreements with Ukraine for the support. A good friend of mine is in Ukraine with many former military personnel hired by a private Company to supply maintenance technicians.

    • @PappyGunn
      @PappyGunn Місяць тому +2

      @@darknesstrembles3773 Interesting, so some serious thought has gone into this. Third line out of country. I guess we will have to see how effective those F16 and crew will be.

    • @audas
      @audas Місяць тому +6

      @@darknesstrembles3773 This is just so insane. Consider a small local airport - they are obvious to even the most remedial observation technology. And the service and maintenance, plus logistics and control MUST be near the planes - it can not be hidden away.
      You are just utterly full of crap.

  • @johnaikema1055
    @johnaikema1055 Місяць тому +169

    logistics also requires significant training.

    • @riskinhos
      @riskinhos Місяць тому +1

      no they don't. they require resources and infrastructures which neither ukraine has. not much training is needed.

    • @Jykobe491
      @Jykobe491 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@riskinhosand it's not like the enemy would let them have them😂😂. You can't just set up logistics and infrastructure during a war, they can and will be easily targeted

    • @riskinhos
      @riskinhos Місяць тому +5

      @@Jykobe491 explain how ukraine is still flying their aircraft and the ones donated by other countries more than 2 years after the war started. if what you were saying was true there would be no flying. and not only they are flying they are increasing the number of flights.

    • @Jykobe491
      @Jykobe491 Місяць тому +4

      @@riskinhos and where have you seen these Ukrainian aircraft flights? In your dream? Russians are destroying Ukrainian jet fighters before they can take off the ground, also how can Ukraine be flying when they don't have significant airpower to challenge Russia? Make it make sense

    • @pvsolutions9292
      @pvsolutions9292 Місяць тому

      In Finland recruited do maint F-18 after 8 weeks of training. F-16 is easier

  • @OKOK-hm2is
    @OKOK-hm2is 16 днів тому +13

    Well, as it turned out - they have already arrived by the time this video was released)

  • @briannewman6216
    @briannewman6216 Місяць тому +132

    What is to stop the Russians from destroying the F16s on the ground?
    I suspect that this is a key reason why the F16s have not been delivered to Ukraine.

    • @deanboy2416
      @deanboy2416 Місяць тому +38

      absolutely nothing, and that's the reason why they won't make so much as a scratch in the overall picture

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp Місяць тому +40

      Ukraine has had dozens of Soviet era aircraft that Russia could strike but only a few were hit. Strikes on the aircraft on the ground is more difficult than it may seem for Russia.

    • @subjectc7505
      @subjectc7505 Місяць тому +28

      They're already hitting bases prior to their arrival

    • @akosyoutub
      @akosyoutub Місяць тому +38

      @@stupidburp Not hard at all... Russia has destroyed and damaged several su-27s and a su-25 in the last week on the ground...

    • @avtomat11
      @avtomat11 Місяць тому

      The same thing that prevented them from destroying the ukrainian air force in 2+ years of war.

  • @nasosst3092
    @nasosst3092 Місяць тому +39

    Thanks signiore. One "technical" suggestion :
    When using long written text phrases between spoken narrative please try to give them some more seconds on screen. It's annoying to stop, getback and restart just to be able to read and comprehend those text portions. We have not F35 pilots abilities and we are getting awfully old😊.
    As for the main argument of this video I think that it has the same weight as logistics deficiencies....
    Thanks one more time for your impartial and technical view. Much more useful than wishful thinking and "hooliganism" infighting these days.

    • @Gunni1972
      @Gunni1972 Місяць тому

      Don't worry. the F-35's will never get as old, as we feel.

    • @nasosst3092
      @nasosst3092 Місяць тому

      @@Gunni1972 not worried about F35 getting old. I won't be around here when this happens bro...

  • @ghansu
    @ghansu Місяць тому +34

    In here pilot training takes 6 years and training continues after that all the career. F-16 cant operate from road bases and needs a clean long airfield to take off and land because engine intake is below the hull. Those would be operational in 2030 and their hulls are so worn up by then that they are more risk of the pilot than enemy. Every pilot can fly those, but learning how to use that as an effective weapon platform is whole different thing.

    • @nasser-ist
      @nasser-ist Місяць тому +2

      Where is "In here"? This is the Internet so please be mindful just a tad bit.

    • @pogo1140
      @pogo1140 Місяць тому +1

      F-16's can operate from a road. They've tried it. The USAF doesn't use it because they don't need to as they operate out of well defended air bases

    • @TKUA11
      @TKUA11 Місяць тому +1

      I’m sure there’s plenty of Ukrainian pilots that have more than 6 years of training , they just need to learn to operate an f 16 and it won’t take as long

    • @pogo1140
      @pogo1140 Місяць тому +2

      @TKUA11 part of the issue is that the American instructors have not trained fast jet pilot to fight a war while the war is going on. And frankly no EU country has with the exception of Russia and the UK and that was back in WW2. The Last American pilots who trained under a wartime tempo graduated back in 1973 and retired 20 years ago. If you compare the scenario that the host mentioned. A rather well known aerial photographer/cameraman went on his 1st F-4 cruise and logged 1,000 hours and over 700 traps, then went to Top Gun and back to the fleet as an instructor in 2 years. Did another cruise went back to Top Gun as an instructor.
      The US trainers need to do their training at that pace. 3 flights a day, 5 days a week. 60/month or 1 year's flight and training time in 3 month, none of this it takes years bs

    • @nasser-ist
      @nasser-ist Місяць тому

      @@pogo1140 Copium and BS, All of that means nothing, these shit cans won't fly in Ukro404 - they won't have a chance.

  • @sazabi-zc3ir
    @sazabi-zc3ir Місяць тому +23

    In the Korean War, there were Soviet pilots dressed as N.Korean / Chinese ones to fight the US. This is a well documented history. There were also Chinese/Soviet pilots in the Vietnam war. So there isn’t any surprise that F16s coming into Ukraine would packed with pilot inside.

    • @Max_Da_G
      @Max_Da_G Місяць тому +2

      Soviet pilots were sent by none other than Soviet government. It was simply denied by Soviets at the time.

    • @Valor110
      @Valor110 Місяць тому +3

      Russian already know this. It's impossible to train a pilot even with 2 year period.

    • @MishaAmashukeli
      @MishaAmashukeli Місяць тому

      That's just not happening. Western democratic states don't work like the Soviet Union. It would get leaked in no time and there would be a huge scandal.

    • @francoisleveille409
      @francoisleveille409 Місяць тому +1

      The F-16s are already in Ukraine. This one didn't age well!

    • @youtubename8080
      @youtubename8080 Місяць тому +1

      @@francoisleveille409any source?

  • @romank9166
    @romank9166 16 днів тому +19

    This aged like raw pure unfiltered goat milk LMAO

  • @lubumbashi6666
    @lubumbashi6666 19 днів тому +12

    Millennium 7 created video saying with the clickbait title: "The F16s are NOT arriving" and then 3 weeks later, they arrived. I think we should question your analysis. I know, you said they would arrive "_eventually_" but that was a mere three weeks ago. I can't help but think you are biased.

    • @Millennium7HistoryTech
      @Millennium7HistoryTech  19 днів тому +5

      I will address this

    • @reekpeekseek
      @reekpeekseek 19 днів тому +6

      ​@@Millennium7HistoryTech
      I commented under your "F16 will not arrive" video that you are destroying your credibility with click bait titles...
      A community that comes for bias validation isn't worth pandering to.
      You are better than this.

    • @lubumbashi6666
      @lubumbashi6666 18 днів тому +1

      ​@@Millennium7HistoryTech I really appreciated your analysis though, it's just that the title is a sort of lie. Of course I understand the temptation to clickbait. You are the mercy of the algorithm, and the algorithn doesn't care for nuance.

    • @worldspam5682
      @worldspam5682 15 днів тому

      ​@@reekpeekseek you said that usage of clickbait titles is destroying credibility and then say that he's above bias validation? Dude that sounds biased af.

    • @worldspam5682
      @worldspam5682 15 днів тому

      ​@@lubumbashi6666 algorithm seeks user attention and amplifies it. People jump on clickbait titles so he's not at the mercy of algorithm. He lures algorithm to his side.

  • @frankunderbush
    @frankunderbush Місяць тому +12

    Rare instance of appropriately used AI images 😂

  • @sergejadam8860
    @sergejadam8860 Місяць тому +113

    denys davydov has been waiting for F 16 for 2 years. 🥺😢😭😭

    • @user-xv4id9xx7u
      @user-xv4id9xx7u Місяць тому +44

      So? He's a silly propagandist who spouts lies and has been wrong on everything. He is not a serious analyst and his commentary is worthless.

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine Місяць тому +37

      I’m as pro-Ukrainian as it gets, but Denys knows nothing about military or geopolitical issues. All he does is read headlines and point toward changes on the map. Being a commercial pilot doesn’t mean you know the first thing about air domain related issues.

    • @timbrown275
      @timbrown275 Місяць тому +1

      whatever ball licker!

    • @sergejadam8860
      @sergejadam8860 Місяць тому +28

      @@The_ZeroLine You tell me he only profits from war and is not really a Ukrainian patriot but just a well-paid troll. that can't be 😦😧😳

    • @donuthole7236
      @donuthole7236 Місяць тому +17

      Denys career is now a Ukrainian UA-camr reporting on how the Russians are destroying his country. He could have volunteered as an F-16 pilot which Ukraine needs.

  • @avus-kw2f213
    @avus-kw2f213 Місяць тому +27

    The humorous AI images are great

  • @cheekeongchan6605
    @cheekeongchan6605 Місяць тому +69

    I read that the NATO requirement for F-16 training is a minimum of 140 hrs flying time per year. Israeli pilots are supposedly training at over 200 hrs flying time per year. Your analysis of reducing pilot mission scope seems credible since the training time is too short. Mercenary/NATO ground crew and pilots would be on the ground once the F-16 is operational but mercenary/NATO pilots would not be flying over Russian held territory. Captured NATO pilots would be a PR disaster.

    • @tjallingdalheuvel126
      @tjallingdalheuvel126 Місяць тому

      They are going nowhere near the front. Unless they want it written off. Not going to win then the war. Big waste of resources. Look at the operating costs and the price of the rockets. All of adds is a higly mobile launch platform. It is a reasonable dogfighter, but these days in this context one fires from afar. It can not outrum with its single engine. So even if they get into Russia, they will likely not come out. Only ones winning is mid and those on their payroll. Losers are the taxpayers and above all the boys getting hurt, dying and their loved ones. Zelesky and the sellouts to run with their bloodmoney enjoying the good life. It disgusts me. People fighting bananawars, being fooled once again that it is theirs.

    • @GeorgeLerma
      @GeorgeLerma Місяць тому +8

      Yet, they did this in WWII. Many pilots in the U.S. and other countries volunteered to fly for the allies, before they even joined the war. NOt sure why this can't happen again.

    • @exellion82
      @exellion82 Місяць тому +9

      @@GeorgeLermaYou don’t have the threat of people launching WMDs at each other. Also, when you’re looking at retirees or separatees, there are better paying opportunities than repeating the same old stuff all over again.

    • @seanp9277
      @seanp9277 Місяць тому +3

      @@GeorgeLerma Perhaps there are no volunteers.

    • @hellgates_javed6451
      @hellgates_javed6451 Місяць тому

      ​@@GeorgeLerma. one thing is that Ukraine is the nazi side

  • @GeoI-wm6il
    @GeoI-wm6il Місяць тому +87

    At this moment there are no Ukrainian pilots training in Romania. On June 10, the Ministry of National Defense published a draft financing this initiative, so the first pilots will start training in Romania only towards the end of the year or most probably in 2025.

    • @Gunni1972
      @Gunni1972 Місяць тому +6

      That's what they said in mid 2023. right? By the end of the year....maybe...

    • @JonathanSigwart
      @JonathanSigwart Місяць тому +6

      Officially 😂😂

    • @cristan9582
      @cristan9582 Місяць тому

      Who needs this idiots to train in Romania?

    • @DacianRider
      @DacianRider Місяць тому +5

      idk. man... I've heard some very loud jet noises over my building in the past two weeks or so. & I live in RO. not gonna say where, but it's close to an air base city. could be our guys, but I've lived here since forever & only in the last year air patrols, choppers and other freaky noises in the night have started becoming more frequent.

    • @MarkSmith-js2pu
      @MarkSmith-js2pu Місяць тому

      The war will be over by then.

  • @zaffazad4040
    @zaffazad4040 Місяць тому +5

    Good analysis, right on the mark
    !

  • @unclejoeoakland
    @unclejoeoakland Місяць тому +3

    Kennedy had a story he heard of a French General chatting with his Gardener. The general requested that some fruit trees be planted, and the Gardener tarried. Asked why, the gardener explained- "sir, it will be thirty years before they flower!" The General admonished him- "Thirty Years? Then plant them today! There's no time to lose!"

  • @gerfand
    @gerfand Місяць тому +43

    It really is a problem related to them not expecting Ukraine to be in this position, no ahead planning from a war that is not theirs

    • @joeordinary209
      @joeordinary209 Місяць тому

      Correct, this war is purely a Russian expansion project, they can stop this any time. Just honour international law and borders.

    • @TKUA11
      @TKUA11 Місяць тому

      Speak English please

    • @gerfand
      @gerfand Місяць тому +1

      @@TKUA11 understand english please

    • @TKUA11
      @TKUA11 Місяць тому

      @@gerfand I can’t, this grammar is not English. Improper English

    • @gerfand
      @gerfand Місяць тому +2

      @@TKUA11 yet you are able to awnser no problem

  • @mushtaqdar2574
    @mushtaqdar2574 Місяць тому +60

    Dont get me wrong but has it been already 1.5 year delay they promised them back in September 2023!!!!!!!!!!

    • @pierovittori1076
      @pierovittori1076 Місяць тому

      It was a joke from the start
      You can't employ f16s without the whole infrastructure needed. And that would mean a first hand role of Nato and usa in the war. A war declaration between nuclear powers. That's just not going to happen any soon.

    • @sshumkaer
      @sshumkaer Місяць тому +6

      Wrong

    • @colinobrien3806
      @colinobrien3806 Місяць тому +4

      rubbish talk .. how could they promise something that had no training done for ... ...

    • @BogdanTestsSoftware
      @BogdanTestsSoftware Місяць тому +2

      Yeah, training should have started in May 2022. Of course it wasn't a good moment to do so - start training people - but when would planes arrive, then deliveries would start but there are no people trained. Trained people and planes were a chicken and the egg problem.

    • @sshumkaer
      @sshumkaer Місяць тому

      @colinobrien3806 if you come here prepare to get fake news. This gut knows nothing

  • @daveverster7483
    @daveverster7483 Місяць тому +41

    Shame..dont people know you need pilots plus logistics to bring it into service.

    • @ColonelSandersLite
      @ColonelSandersLite Місяць тому +11

      No, they don't. As a generality, people don't have much of a clue how logistics work. They just think in terms of buzzword = magic wand, deliver it now.

    • @winterinvicta
      @winterinvicta Місяць тому +7

      Unfortunately not a lot of people want to take some time to understand how war works, I can’t blame them though if you got a job and a family then you can’t put in that time into research.

    • @Malik-ur2si
      @Malik-ur2si Місяць тому

      Lol, people didn't make the decision, military general's did. Question would be why did they promise F-16's in the first place, why waste resources if they knew? My guess is they are used to fighting war where opposition doesn't have the capability to strike them and so as a result they became delusional.

    • @kentriat2426
      @kentriat2426 Місяць тому

      Actually you need aircraft in fit enough condition to be used for training to start with. This has been the issue as most donated aircraft were in very poor condition and in need of a lot of stripping down airframe inspection then rebuilding.
      Add in that 21 of the 48 to come from the Netherlands were on sold to Argentina before delivery after being refurbished. The USA will further upgrade them and providing pilot training as part of the deal.

    • @glintongordon6811
      @glintongordon6811 Місяць тому +2

      They had a whole 2 years to get that ready... If they don't get it ready now ukraine should just give up

  • @martinabowm1786
    @martinabowm1786 Місяць тому +3

    I am again and again impressed with your endless knowledge! You must eat breathe and sleep flying and airplanes all your life to achieve such proviciency! Respect!

  • @zodiacdriver3852
    @zodiacdriver3852 Місяць тому +2

    German Air Force had a nice master piece of role model in converting former MiG- and SU-pilots to Phantom- and Tornado-pilots and have them to operate in western airspace, with NATO ROEs, tactics and phraseology. The selection process was painful for all the hundreds of candidates, most of them failed in adopting required language proficiency in the first place (required to read and understand aircraft and regulations documentation).
    The 'survivors' of this first round (somewhere around 10% or so) made it to flight training, that turned out to be for most of them the ultimate catastrophy, as it required to completely re-calibrate a pilots brain. At the very end, only a handful made it into western aircraft, some gave up because of constant overload, a few crashed, and only some 5 to 10 were able to cope with the challenges in the long run.
    This happened during peace time, time was not that much of essence, but it demonstrated, how difficult it is to switch from one eco-system to another. To do this in war time is a challenge of its own, since the air power is urgently needed, but all of its elements are far from being ready for getting unleashed.
    I switched 3 times the aircraft type during my career, but I did this in the eco-system I was educated in and I changed my role only once, but this was always challenging enough...

    • @user-zj1bf4se7n
      @user-zj1bf4se7n 18 днів тому

      Lets not forget many of them eastern German pilots were loyal to the old communist/socialist regime and mostly entangled with the Stasi in one way or the other which disqualified them.

  • @AndyRRR0791
    @AndyRRR0791 Місяць тому +96

    When it comes to F16s operating in Ukraine, Otis will sweep the floor.

    • @subjectc7505
      @subjectc7505 Місяць тому +1

      No, it won't.

    • @maninalift
      @maninalift Місяць тому +2

      What is Otis?

    • @andresmartinezramos7513
      @andresmartinezramos7513 Місяць тому +1

      @@maninalift The Roomba in the videos

    • @LoisoPondohva
      @LoisoPondohva Місяць тому +4

      ​@@subjectc7505 it will, it's what it do.

    • @spxram4793
      @spxram4793 Місяць тому +2

      while doing that, he'll find "Kilroy was here" inscriptions ...

  • @andyjennings15
    @andyjennings15 Місяць тому +4

    What's with the ridiculous title of this video that's a complete lie ? You youtubers and your ignorant clickbait titles.

  • @agustinussiahaan6669
    @agustinussiahaan6669 Місяць тому +59

    Thank you, Millennium7.
    Online commentators have remind Ukraine since long time ago to establish the F16 infrastructures and supply chain management. The pilots is a bigger issue to overcome since human factor is always the bottleneck.

    • @T33K3SS3LCH3N
      @T33K3SS3LCH3N Місяць тому +3

      Yet the "requirements" outlined in this video are not the requirements needed to continue operating at the current level, but the requirements to excel.
      First and foremost, Ukraine simply needs new aircraft to continue operating and to start fighting back against the current glide bomb attacks. That requires far less than what was listed here.
      As said at 9:15, the first step will be a reduced mission set.
      If the Ukrainian pilots achieve all of the qualifications - which can occur much faster than the outlined "better part of a decade" under the selective pressure of actual combat - in significant numbers, then they will be far more effective than anything Russia or Ukraine have fielded so far.

    • @lubub9088
      @lubub9088 Місяць тому +5

      in my opinion if that logistic infrastructure is or not make no different. I believe F16 would have same life like Abrams or Leopard but maybe still shorter. F16 is built for making money and not for brutal war - what more its capability to carry nuclear weapons makes another escalation.

    • @lubub9088
      @lubub9088 Місяць тому +5

      each weapons used in war is kind of advertising for future sell - I don't believe F16 can make improve its value in potential use on Ukraine - opposite can lost reputation and in that way military complex can loose significantly.

    • @michaelnextdoor8726
      @michaelnextdoor8726 Місяць тому

      Just listen to Justin Bronk on the topic he knows what he's talking about

    • @Gunni1972
      @Gunni1972 Місяць тому +3

      @@lubub9088 No. As this is not a battlefield that ALLOWS simple missions. The bloody RADAR evasion is the MAIN problem, And if you have to change attack angles mid-approach, you are setting yourself up for gangbangs. The situational awareness is basically asking for a two-crew plane. where one flies, and the other guy is checking search and track signals, and directions, attacks could come from. Otherwise the Jamming, Radar evasion, and missile evasion will be enough to overwhelm any "Pilot newb" sorry guys. That's nothing against you.

  • @bernieeod57
    @bernieeod57 Місяць тому +54

    As long as the runways are kept well cratered and well fodded, they will not arrive

    • @josue_kay
      @josue_kay Місяць тому +2

      They could send F35s; no need for a runway and most Ukrainian pilots won't be coming home anyway 💀

    • @bernieeod57
      @bernieeod57 Місяць тому

      @@josue_kay Typical liberal male feminist who things the right wonder weapon will win the war. Not so!!! It needs a short runway to take off with any kind of load and special heat resistant pads to vertically land on! Plus, VSTOL = No range and small load

    • @shuathe2nd
      @shuathe2nd Місяць тому +1

      Runways are pretty easy to patch up. Hangers less so, but they could build hardened hangers, or use inflatable tents - you put up tents at all plane parking points so that the targeting cannot see which tents the planes are in, so it is difficult to know which tent to target.

    • @itz_me_kratos
      @itz_me_kratos Місяць тому

      ​@@shuathe2ndbut Russian intelligence is like something that's never been seen before, It won't work out well

    • @timtrewyn453
      @timtrewyn453 Місяць тому

      But that would mean fewer missiles for apartment buildings, power plants, and hardware stores . . . if there are any of those left.

  • @user-hb6gu9bd3d
    @user-hb6gu9bd3d Місяць тому +67

    No problem is too big for us, WE ARE UKRAINIAN!! Just show us a film of Top Gun, and we will show Tom Cruise how it should be done.

    • @leonardbakers
      @leonardbakers Місяць тому

      Why do you murder your fellow countrymen when you know that you cannot win against the Russians?

    • @Gunni1972
      @Gunni1972 Місяць тому +8

      Ukraine could train him in mental health. (LOL)

    • @garynew9637
      @garynew9637 Місяць тому +2

      Haha

    • @bradr539
      @bradr539 Місяць тому +4

      Maverick is the Ghost of Kyiv 😊

    • @peterturner6497
      @peterturner6497 Місяць тому

      Perfect!

  • @davdave3470
    @davdave3470 Місяць тому +8

    I drove past RAF Lakenheath the other day and could see lots of F16 fighters parked in the open over the fence.

    • @passantNL
      @passantNL Місяць тому +3

      That would surprise me because the RAF doesn't operate any F-16s and therefore has no capability to train F-16 pilots.

    • @tedarcher9120
      @tedarcher9120 Місяць тому

      ​@@passantNLua-cam.com/video/NcnO3lOXNxg/v-deo.htmlsi=D6C0pomeMnnp2LbM

    • @sichere
      @sichere Місяць тому +5

      @@Statueshop297 It's an RAF base that the USAF use with permission

    • @technicalfool
      @technicalfool Місяць тому +5

      @@passantNL The RAF may or may not, but the USAF and other NATO forces do.

    • @sichere
      @sichere Місяць тому +5

      @@Statueshop297 But that sounds like occupation forces 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @RightWingNutter
    @RightWingNutter Місяць тому +2

    The training issue makes much more sense. A Top Gun graduate of my acquaintance suggested the same thing.

    • @geoffas
      @geoffas Місяць тому

      It seems to me that training the maintenance techs is more the main problem. That, and getting the spare parts to repair components which have failed, of course.

    • @killman369547
      @killman369547 Місяць тому +1

      @@geoffas There's also the fact that the F-16 can only operate from perfectly kept runways. Any FOD on the runway at all and it can't take off and looking at where the F-16's engine intake is you can see why. So basically all the Russians have to do is foul Ukraine's runways any way they can and they render them useless. And if they operate from outside Ukraine say in Poland or Romania then i'd expect an RS-28 Sarmat to take care of that fairly quickly.

  • @aaronpaul9188
    @aaronpaul9188 Місяць тому +2

    Wait, the ukranians are landing at bases with soviet equipment, disassembling the aircraft, shipping it by truck to a new base, and then reassembling it? Is that even possible with the F-16?

  • @bjorntorlarsson
    @bjorntorlarsson Місяць тому +2

    Training a Ukrainian pilot on the F-16:
    "- Neutral Turkey is to the south. Beyond that big blue stuff. And the eject button is there."

  • @hourbee5535
    @hourbee5535 Місяць тому +47

    Again, providing Ukraine f-16s was always political theater and symbolism. It will have little to no effect in the conflict

    • @reserva120
      @reserva120 Місяць тому

      Very stupid comment

    • @tedarcher9120
      @tedarcher9120 Місяць тому +3

      Exactly, just like Javelins and Himars

    • @VenerableAxagoras
      @VenerableAxagoras Місяць тому +3

      @@tedarcher9120 Nah, more like aybruhms and challenger 2s

    • @KondorDCS
      @KondorDCS Місяць тому +5

      @@tedarcher9120 Truth be told, both Javelins and Himars had some noticable success in the begining, but their novelty wore off pretty fast and the russians had learned to negate their effect.

    • @DefaultProphet
      @DefaultProphet Місяць тому +1

      ⁠@@KondorDCSIn what way has Russia negated Javelin? There’s a couple S400s real confused why the Himars wasn’t negated.

  • @TheAidanodian
    @TheAidanodian Місяць тому +4

    Well they’re on the way to Ukraine 3 days after this vid came out.

    • @randylahey8153
      @randylahey8153 Місяць тому

      yeah right, because mainstream media tells the truth. Jesus Christ, are u that dumb?

  • @CptFugu
    @CptFugu Місяць тому +1

    I agree with pretty much everything you said... There is one exception though. Training times from the past can be significantly accelerated by using training simulators extensively. That will cut down restrictions in terms of fuel, and maintenance that affect hands on training. You can now also do force on force and large scale training, which was something only a few countries could afford to do a few years back.
    While it doesn't have the tactile feel of flying the aircraft, it can create viable muscle memory in regards to tactics, as well as aircraft systems, radar, and weapons operations. You can compress knowledge effectively as well as put to the test for both, pilots and commanders. And you can do a fair simulation of the actual terrain they will fight over too.
    The only thing that will make a fighter better at fighting, is to actually fight. In a sim you can do endless permutations until the automatic responses are there. Rather than having a few hours a week of hands of training, they can pack the equivalent of a week of exercises in one or two days.

  • @justatiger6268
    @justatiger6268 Місяць тому

    the analysis here is incredibly good and, most of all, *OBJECTIVE!*

  • @TheoCapteijn-kh8nj
    @TheoCapteijn-kh8nj Місяць тому +11

    The second they touch ground a few FAB300,s will be on their way. What a FABilous promise. What a gamechanger.

    • @ArchOfficial
      @ArchOfficial Місяць тому

      Russia doesn't have air superiority over their own FLOT and you think that they can get FAB-500s onto AIRFIELDS?!

    • @mannysamson4091
      @mannysamson4091 Місяць тому

      @@ArchOfficial who told you they don't have air superiority?

    • @Ducky97743
      @Ducky97743 8 днів тому

      ​@@mannysamson4091 because Russia uses glide bombs and other standoff munitions due to caution against Ukrainian air defense.

  • @russianmig2968
    @russianmig2968 Місяць тому +5

    But..Indian Air Force also Trained in America For ADVANCE JET TRAINING when they have no aircraft For training sub sonic to supersonic ...but Indian Air force always use Mostly Russian Jets ..

    • @MikeisaGoob
      @MikeisaGoob Місяць тому +2

      Didn't the Indians manage to shoot down f16s with ancient mig 21s during joint training?

    • @USA-AMERICA-iq6qk
      @USA-AMERICA-iq6qk Місяць тому

      @@MikeisaGoob Indians managed nothing. Su-30 is garbage just like all Russian airplanes

    • @abatesnz
      @abatesnz 29 днів тому +1

      Indians have been switching to superior French jets.

  • @kiafar
    @kiafar Місяць тому +2

    How would f16s be a game changer when Ukraine has SU27 that already is more powerful than f16s in everyway?

    • @Ducky97743
      @Ducky97743 8 днів тому

      Ukraine only has a limited supply of parts and weapons for those aircraft.

  • @stever2583
    @stever2583 Місяць тому +2

    Its the tactics and language level needed.Its the use of the software integration, flying is easy... But flying @ 7 G's and selecting the correct weapon from the list while evading a sam requires a great level of language and command of all the systems.

    • @ArchOfficial
      @ArchOfficial Місяць тому

      You'd only ever have one, max two sets of AAMs loaded, and one, max two, types of AGMs loaded. Realistically only AMRAAM and some kind of ARM, AGM or GBU/CBU.
      So if they can press the A/A button or the A/G button on the ICP and maybe the missile step, they're good to go for the most part. It's not that difficult. Harder is things like HOTAS flows while processing lots of info and doing many functions in succession. Most missions won't require something like that and are straightforward.

    • @stever2583
      @stever2583 Місяць тому

      @@ArchOfficial I stand corrected... Thank you! Too much BS floating and as a non-pilot I can only go with what I'm told.

    • @ArchOfficial
      @ArchOfficial Місяць тому

      @@stever2583 What you're told is almost always false. Non-pilot here too, but I can read a manual and watch a video.

  • @spxram4793
    @spxram4793 Місяць тому +3

    Millenium7, I thank you for sharing your knowledge, as always. I completely agree to your analysis. I guess the thinking behind requesting F-16 was the large numbers this type has been produced , almost 5000 units. The F-16 was designed based on the US Vietnam experience as a front line fighter. This includes the assumption of having safe airbases and a complex logistics environment. Clearly, the Gripen are much better suited - the Swedish know what they are doing. But production capacity and training timelines are a large burden. No wonder, that CZ and HU have chosen for Gripen - in East Europe, only PL has the capability to fly F-16 long term, and their use case is clearly based on long range strikes faraway from home bases - explaining why all PL F-16 have the new design with additional fuel tanks. In reality, Ukraine is much better of with a large number of Patriot PAC-2 missiles and ballistic missiles for long range strikes, and due to politics, they'll have to build their own.

  • @remotabanelli4583
    @remotabanelli4583 Місяць тому +6

    training is the biggest problem (i agree with you) but logistic for these aircrafts require a substantial amount of training as well so really the "human factor" is a decisive issue but in both cases for the pilots and for logistics and maintenance as well.. (just my two cents)

    • @hollowgonzalo4329
      @hollowgonzalo4329 Місяць тому

      @remotabanelli4583
      It's easier to find willing volunteers and also "hide" Westren logistics personnel on the ground that it is to get Westren pilots to preform an active combat role in the F-16's themselves probably so I don't think the logistics personnel is the issue here.

    • @remotabanelli4583
      @remotabanelli4583 Місяць тому

      @@hollowgonzalo4329 yeah it's so easy that no one have seen an f16 flying in ukraine.. ask yourself why..

    • @ArchOfficial
      @ArchOfficial Місяць тому

      Well, the logistics concerns for Su-24, Su-25 and Su-27 are higher than F-16. There's also substantially less spare parts for those. Ukraine would have an easier time keeping their F-16s running than even Russia does their Su-35s. Even easier if they were F-35s, but that's a fantasy.

    • @remotabanelli4583
      @remotabanelli4583 Місяць тому

      @@ArchOfficial wishful thinking

    • @ArchOfficial
      @ArchOfficial Місяць тому

      @@remotabanelli4583 This is a real-world verifiable fact, considering that currently in the real world there are countries operating F-16, MiG-29, Su-27, Su-35 etc.

  • @NewtonInDaHouseYo
    @NewtonInDaHouseYo Місяць тому +1

    I appreciate your channel, but I think you are wrong on this one: F-16's are reportedly in transfer to Ukraine as of this moment. Source: Antony Blinken during the NATO summit in DC.

  • @paulmasoner8073
    @paulmasoner8073 Місяць тому +27

    I must have missed the part that explains the title. Or was it SUPPOSED to be clickbait?

    • @iivin4233
      @iivin4233 Місяць тому +13

      @@Statueshop297 Explain that to Perun or any of the other youtubers who don't use clickbait titles.

    • @ASpyNamedJames
      @ASpyNamedJames Місяць тому +4

      @@iivin4233 The guy has 500k subs though, that's a little different.

  • @sorryociffer
    @sorryociffer Місяць тому +46

    Ive been telling people this for 6 months... Constantly told i was wrong... 😂

    • @scroopynooperz9051
      @scroopynooperz9051 Місяць тому +10

      It is easier to teach a "retired" Western / NATO pilot to speak Ukrainian than it is to train up a Ukrainian pilot to fly an F-16...

    • @Annou7la
      @Annou7la Місяць тому +3

      @@scroopynooperz9051 no it’s not

    • @Annou7la
      @Annou7la Місяць тому +5

      And you are still wrong.

    • @greybuckleton
      @greybuckleton Місяць тому +8

      Don't worry, they will stop talking about it once you are right, and start telling you you are wrong about something else.

    • @sorryociffer
      @sorryociffer Місяць тому +4

      @@Annou7la 😂. No sir, I am not.

  • @martindice5424
    @martindice5424 Місяць тому +3

    Always thought this would be a problem. I’m sure some Ukrainian pilots will adjust quicker than others but what about doctrine? Western doctrine is about mission command- totally unlike the Soviet rigid structures that Ukrainian pilots have inherited.
    However - the Ukrainians have demonstrated a desire to embrace new concepts and ideas so…

    • @joek600
      @joek600 Місяць тому +4

      Every time the ''embraced'' these new concepts they died, and dont think that they dont realize that at ground level. The last year ''summer offensive'' was a biggest mistake than clinging to Bahmut for PR reasons.

    • @ArchOfficial
      @ArchOfficial Місяць тому

      Ukraine's pilots have been superior to most NATO pilots for years. There's not any soviet doctrine in there.

  • @SCARFACE-gp4fy
    @SCARFACE-gp4fy Місяць тому +2

    How can Ukrainian airforce feild F16s when Russian ISR is so efficient at detecting targets they will be smashed on the ground as soon as they enter the stage.

    • @timtrewyn453
      @timtrewyn453 Місяць тому

      You miss the point. A Russian missile fired at a military target is a Russian missile that did not kill a Ukrainian child in a civilian target, like an apartment building. I'm quite confident efficient Russian ISR is aware of targeted apartment buildings and dead Ukrainian children. They know everything and press on to victory. And victory isn't everything, it is the only thing.

    • @Levon_RnD
      @Levon_RnD 22 дні тому

      ​@timtrewyn453 Because if there is no F-16 in Ukraine the Russians would have nothing to do but to fire missiles at children. I'm positive that you are confusing Russia with Israel.

  • @mickg7299
    @mickg7299 Місяць тому +28

    By the time they arrive they’ll probably be suffering from corrosion issues 😅

    • @Paulius-lb4ng
      @Paulius-lb4ng Місяць тому +5

      Like Orc rifles eh.

    • @neisvestno2444
      @neisvestno2444 Місяць тому +5

      ​​@@Paulius-lb4ng coping ukie shill trying to project, how cute.

    • @愛を込めてロシアから
      @愛を込めてロシアから Місяць тому +4

      @@neisvestno2444 все нормально, для нас комплимент когда нас называют Орками. Орки это огромные мощные изобретательные парни. Быть орком это круто

    • @robertgreenberg1934
      @robertgreenberg1934 Місяць тому

      Ukrainian forces have outperformed expectations since the onset of the 2 week limited military operation. Not a total solution but the Russians are undoubtedly writing their pants waiting for all the missiles that F16s can fire to arrive.

    • @dexlab7539
      @dexlab7539 Місяць тому +1

      You mean the Ukrainian pilots 😂

  • @notenote2004
    @notenote2004 Місяць тому +31

    Even if 30 of them arrive all at once it won’t change anything.

    • @KondorDCS
      @KondorDCS Місяць тому +12

      Even 300 wouldn't make a difference. Even IF they flew from romanian and polish air fields and the russians didn't blow the shit out of these bases (they would, make no mistake) and they were flown by epxerienced western pilots, they still wouldn't change the tide. In fact, many would be killed by russian air defenses and fighters and while they would probably also cause damage to russian forces on the ground and in the air....let's not forget one crucial thing:
      Western pilots have NO experience against fighting against a capable enemy with potent air defense and air force...whereas the russians have been gaining this experience for 2.5 years now. What's even more important, both russian and ukranian pilots have learned what it is like to suffer serious losses....they can cope with it mentally. Western pilots never had to do that....all they have ever known is complete air supremacy and total control over the air space. The experience will shock the shit out of them.

    • @hyhhy
      @hyhhy Місяць тому +3

      @@KondorDCS Well, 300 is such a sheer number that they really would make some difference - until they were mostly destroyed. They surely could halt Russia for quite some time and even push it back some. But as we know, even 30 planes are hard to get going, so 300 would probably take 5+ years and of course cost massively.

    • @Gunni1972
      @Gunni1972 Місяць тому +5

      At the current rate, they would deplete the Russian Iskander Stockpile by about 15?

    • @wbcarter2
      @wbcarter2 Місяць тому

      @@KondorDCS you are about ignorant!

    • @wbcarter2
      @wbcarter2 Місяць тому +2

      @@KondorDCS with 300 the F-16's would not only have air supremecy over Ukraine, but inside of Russian border for a good 250 + miles.

  • @argh7412
    @argh7412 Місяць тому +10

    Your video title is clickbait and not coherent with what you say in the video (NOT instead of DELAYED being the problem). 😞

    • @Millennium7HistoryTech
      @Millennium7HistoryTech  Місяць тому +11

      True, I am not very proud but the alternative is being ignored...

    • @BaikalTii
      @BaikalTii Місяць тому

      "will not arrive"- under what circumstances do you think NATO will deliver them after the unconditional surrender? time is running out for the Banderites.

    • @RectalRooter
      @RectalRooter Місяць тому

      @@Millennium7HistoryTech Are you saying your content is subpar and the clickbait is the only reason you can think of to overcome the less than content ??
      I personally watch the content I enjoy and I enjoy your content when the subject interests me. Clickbait titles that don't match the content leaves me with a sour taste in my mouth, that causes me to ignore a channels videos more and more as the clickbait stays or grows.
      I suspect and only guessing people don't completely watch a video if the content slaps them in the face with a desperately begging uploader using clickbait. Honest content with honest titles would get you more compete video watched - maybe not as many views.
      What does youtube care more about - complete video views or more views of 1/3 to 3/5th completed views ??
      Plus remember your a russian / china / turkey shill that gets payed a lot of money .. Yes I'm joking with you.. So youtube algorithm shouldn't matter.
      Again this is all guessing and speculation from me 👍👍

    • @simian_essence
      @simian_essence Місяць тому +1

      @@Millennium7HistoryTech In spite of the fact that clickbait undeniably "works", I can't accept it. I will not make excuses for it.

  • @nicholasmaude6906
    @nicholasmaude6906 12 днів тому

    The first six F-16s have arrived in Ukraine and flown their first missions since this video uploaded.

  •  Місяць тому +2

    Will not arrive... as they are there already...🤫

  • @tomcatkewell
    @tomcatkewell Місяць тому +35

    PAC-3, Leopard2A6, Abrams, HIMAS....
    F-16 is the last thing still can remain tital of "Never defeat"

    • @Myanmartiger921
      @Myanmartiger921 Місяць тому +16

      Moskva is the best submarine anyway

    • @pictograph
      @pictograph Місяць тому +21

      @@Myanmartiger921 If this is the only success of Ukraine that you keep referring to, it already sounds pathetic and miserable.

    • @Myanmartiger921
      @Myanmartiger921 Місяць тому +6

      @@pictographRussian future is doomed if it losses how can you lose more than that

    • @danieldoherty1029
      @danieldoherty1029 Місяць тому +12

      ​​@@pictographI thinkYou'll find, around a Third of The Black Sea Fleet, including it's Headquarters, are also examples. As well as S400s and Possibly even the Super S500 and Countless Radars. If You want more Examples I could go on all day. Oh and the Fact that all of this was to a Country who don't even barely have a Navy is also Pathetic, Miserable and a little bit Embarrassing!!!!! Slava Ukraini!!!!!

    • @alexnderrrthewoke4479
      @alexnderrrthewoke4479 Місяць тому

      Oh please stop spreading fake news. S-500s was never destroyed​@danieldoherty1029

  • @krispypriest5116
    @krispypriest5116 Місяць тому +3

    Sub and like earned (been following for a while and thanks!).
    Hello from the great white north (CA) 🍁!

  • @r.ladaria135
    @r.ladaria135 Місяць тому +1

    News, they said the F 16 arrived yesterday.

  • @falconeaterf15
    @falconeaterf15 18 днів тому +1

    How long does it take to make a 10 year fighter pilot?
    A: Ten years.

  • @willberry6434
    @willberry6434 16 днів тому +4

    russian bot channel cope

  • @OnlineSafety-ng7et
    @OnlineSafety-ng7et Місяць тому +84

    "The F-16s Will NOT Arrive."
    I said this from day one.

    • @mosseon3456
      @mosseon3456 Місяць тому +7

      i think they will arrive but they'll underestimate the difference those top side intake flaps on Russian fighters makes and will never admit how horrendous the maintenance is and never explain why so few are active.

    • @lorryleaselimited8263
      @lorryleaselimited8263 Місяць тому

      Oh they will, but ukrainians won't be flying them

    • @timbrown275
      @timbrown275 Місяць тому

      whatever ball licker!

    • @gregparrott
      @gregparrott Місяць тому +1

      You selectively repeated only HALF of what he said. He said they will, EVENTUALLY.
      More training and the protective measures need to be in place before their introduction. Another point he mentioned is that it's likely the pilots will receive a limited training set for a few tasks, like downing drones, launching glide bombs and missiles. That limits the F-26's utility, but would still be a very useful asset. Personally, I think HARM missiles might also be included and some electronic warfare and electronic surveillance could be added for a subset of the pilots.

    • @user-go4bg4fp5u
      @user-go4bg4fp5u Місяць тому

      Except that he said they will arrive. Idiot.

  • @CzettCzarron
    @CzettCzarron Місяць тому +1

    Sometimes it's good to "wait and see" than declare it wouldn't arrive.
    And better to think out of the box than think conventionally and inflexibly.
    Just my cent.
    NB: who would've thought that Ukraine will survive russia's February 2022 assault??? 😂🇺🇦🇺🇸🇬🇧

  • @ValensBellator
    @ValensBellator Місяць тому

    This is why Ukraine’s complaint about the # of pilots being trained is silly, and why the US and others are pacing training… there’s no point to churn out pilots that have no F-16s to keep their skills sharp with. It only makes sense to train a handful until more f-16’s are available and can be sustained in Ukraine.

  • @larsnystrom6698
    @larsnystrom6698 Місяць тому +3

    You are avoiding to tell us that the instructors would have been USA/NATO personel. Not anything Ukraine would have to develop.

    • @Gunni1972
      @Gunni1972 Місяць тому

      Shh, they won't risk US personnel. They tried that in Iraq. Then the Opiate crisis at home took care of that.

    • @joek600
      @joek600 Місяць тому +2

      How many instructors do you think are willing to get over there?

  • @illomens2766
    @illomens2766 Місяць тому +5

    They had 20 trained pilots for those F16's and the half life of Ukrainian pilots, even trained ones, isn't very high.
    It would have made no difference.

  • @kamranmediacenter
    @kamranmediacenter Місяць тому

    That's why this is my favourite channel
    You are amazing brother
    Without any hesitation you are unbiased ❤

  • @peterweller8583
    @peterweller8583 Місяць тому +1

    Unfortunately I agree.
    I wished I could support you as I appreciate your perspective.

  • @warhorse03826
    @warhorse03826 Місяць тому +16

    what should have been done is something like the American Volunteer Group in china in the 1930's. yes, the Flying Tigers. take ground personnel that already know their jobs. mechanics, ramp personnel, everything. gather the tools needed. then take pilots that already know how to fly the aircraft..
    take the whole group...as a unit...and have them enlist in the Ukrainian military, with the caveat that they are a self-contained unit.
    this gives you all the training needed, in short order, and puts a fully functioning squadron in the field in short order.
    it worked in china in the 1930's under similar conditions.

    • @TonyRedunzo
      @TonyRedunzo Місяць тому +3

      Good idea. I think what may be holding this back is western politicians must get approval from Putler first. (strong sarcasm)

    • @josesantana-tm1hx
      @josesantana-tm1hx Місяць тому

      Who signs up as a volunteer?

    • @jeffrey7cp992
      @jeffrey7cp992 Місяць тому +1

      You are in a dream world, keep smoking.

    • @josesantana-tm1hx
      @josesantana-tm1hx Місяць тому

      @@jeffrey7cp992 El ladron juzga por su condicion.

    • @timtrewyn453
      @timtrewyn453 Місяць тому

      @@josesantana-tm1hx Special people that have existed throughout history.

  • @airvlad777
    @airvlad777 Місяць тому +6

    Ukraine. Better known as the future mass-graveyard of F-16s.

  • @true_xander
    @true_xander Місяць тому

    7:03 That yellow star made my day. NN hallucinations are such a meme!

  • @BB-sm8ey
    @BB-sm8ey 3 дні тому

    This aged well.

  • @ashokagarwal78
    @ashokagarwal78 Місяць тому +4

    F16s are how many years old. Are they operational. Has scrap been donated to Ukraine

    • @passantNL
      @passantNL Місяць тому +1

      They are all F-16AM's from the Dutch, Danish and Norwegian airforce, that are still operating them but they are in the process of upgrading to the F-35 which is the only reason why these aircraft are available. All were modernised just a decade ago to MLU standard.

  • @peterp4037
    @peterp4037 Місяць тому +3

    swedish airforce is nowhere what you describe and it will be proved in the future.

  • @user-sm2ys7jk1l
    @user-sm2ys7jk1l Місяць тому

    In the Korean war the Soviets Russians flew missions against the US in the Border region but gid forbid we do the same for Ukraine. It disgusts me to no end.

  • @brianhaygood183
    @brianhaygood183 Місяць тому

    Excellent explanation. Thanks. Beautiful photographs, too.

  • @wonlop469
    @wonlop469 Місяць тому +6

    You cannot escalate a defense, you can only defend harder.

  • @earth9531
    @earth9531 Місяць тому +14

    Maybe the pilots just don’t want to go home only to immediately die?

  • @christophggcyrus6861
    @christophggcyrus6861 Місяць тому +1

    As always: very profound and therefore: a pleasure!!

  • @comment6864
    @comment6864 Місяць тому +1

    Just don't do it!! Make peace with Russia and cut the crap. Very foolish game.

  • @avus-kw2f213
    @avus-kw2f213 Місяць тому +5

    1:47 I love the humour of that AI image

  • @im1066
    @im1066 Місяць тому +6

    There are a few "ya, butts" to this whole situation though. Using an F-16 like a soviet-style fighter would indeed be a waste. But we cannot discount the operational experience the Ukrainian Air Force pilots have received in their very unique combat environment since 2022. NATO planners did not fully understand how the situation was on the ground and it resulted in the 2023 failed Ukrainian summer offensive. So they are not exactly starting from zero.
    The real issue they have to address in my opinion is keeping those aircraft protected. They are struggling with that now with their clunky old MiG-29s.

    • @joek600
      @joek600 Місяць тому +1

      Have in mind that the proposed f-16s are basically on par with those clunky old MIG-29. They are getting (if they do) extremely old F-16 versions with airframes full of micro cracks + a huge logistics and training human resources nightmare. Most people ignore the fact of the exhausted airframes.

  • @jarekagnick7876
    @jarekagnick7876 Місяць тому +2

    This aged fast

  • @Native_love
    @Native_love Місяць тому

    We love you! Thank you for your time! Maybe you could start making teaching videos. Nevermind, you already are and we are your students! Thank you from this Navajo Native American from sunny Arizona (A.K.A. Paradise)!

  • @Therabithole
    @Therabithole Місяць тому +23

    This war has been lost for Ukraine a long time ago

    • @RustedCroaker
      @RustedCroaker Місяць тому

      @@soumyajitsingha9614 NAFO bot

    • @tomcatkewell
      @tomcatkewell Місяць тому

      Sorry about Milei

    • @tomcatkewell
      @tomcatkewell Місяць тому

      Sorry about Milei

    • @deanboy2416
      @deanboy2416 Місяць тому

      ​@@soumyajitsingha9614 bot or not, he is right.

  • @ll__mahesh___thakor___5080__ll
    @ll__mahesh___thakor___5080__ll Місяць тому +22

    They will loose Kyiv and Odessa before they receive their F-16 saviors LOL??

    • @tedarcher9120
      @tedarcher9120 Місяць тому +2

      Ukraine will transition to f-45 before that happens

  • @phelansa23
    @phelansa23 Місяць тому +1

    Flying the jet, and effectively employing the weapons system are two entirely different things. In something as advanced as the F16 this will take years.
    Thank you for another very informative video.

  • @user-vg7mu6yn5o
    @user-vg7mu6yn5o Місяць тому

    This hardly even seems possible. F-16's requirements are so pristine they do not match the conditions present, and pilots will be irreplaceable assets who take longer to train than most wars last. It is hard to believe the F-16 was the best choice for this conflict, but the experts made the call.

  • @doc0core
    @doc0core Місяць тому +5

    Someone should send Tom Cruise a memo, he's needed.

    • @GTfour01
      @GTfour01 Місяць тому +2

      He's a true American and would never fight for the current corrupt administration.

    • @dexlab7539
      @dexlab7539 Місяць тому +1

      I believe he only flys F14s 😂

    • @doc0core
      @doc0core Місяць тому +1

      @@dexlab7539 He can start by crash a 6G prototype (a B-21?) then fly a end-of-life fighter into Ukraine, lose the plane heroically, then steal an enemy F-14 to defeat Russia. Gosh, the script practically writes itself!

    • @stavrosk.2868
      @stavrosk.2868 Місяць тому +1

      Don't forget Rambo.

  • @xmeda
    @xmeda Місяць тому +7

    They rather should get rid of Zelensky and his mafia of US controllers and focus on finding some realistic solution of conflict.

    • @user-ss3db1xd1u
      @user-ss3db1xd1u Місяць тому +1

      So says the Russian appeaser .

    • @Ollies2CentsWardill
      @Ollies2CentsWardill Місяць тому

      They are looking for a solution, by acquiring weapons, developing long range missiles and lowering the conscription age to 25.

    • @timtrewyn453
      @timtrewyn453 Місяць тому

      Ahhh. There's the mafia paradigm.

  • @ZaboombaFOO
    @ZaboombaFOO Місяць тому +2

    Welp... This didn't age well.

  • @maximilliancunningham6091
    @maximilliancunningham6091 Місяць тому

    Excellent analysis, as usual. The Grippen and the Sweedish operational model would be a far better model for Ukraine.

  • @murgel2006
    @murgel2006 Місяць тому +3

    Well, need is a great motivator for change.
    Still, I guess it is and will be a tough job for the Ukrainian pilots to adapt. On the other hand, I agree it is very likely that the pilots will receive training in a limited mission spectrum.
    And Ukraine is currently doing a good job at reducing the SAM dangers. That will help those new pilots in becoming experienced ones...

  • @lizanrahman6355
    @lizanrahman6355 Місяць тому +4

    I long suspect, if the F16 arrives, they will be piloted by non-ukrainians 😉

    • @olexp9017
      @olexp9017 Місяць тому

      The passports will give an answer.

  • @paulbellas8797
    @paulbellas8797 Місяць тому

    Well given how much training is required to be a good pilot, it is no wonder why the Russian air force is sucking so badly. I believe the Ukrainians will put up one hell of a fight.

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine Місяць тому +4

    They will arrive. They’re waiting until they have enough pilots. I hope they’re only sending rookies for training. Veteran Su/MiG pilots cannot transition. The time estimates cited in the media were always insane. It’d be great if they could hire some foreign pilots. You’re not giving them enough credit if you don’t think they haven’t been preparing the infrastructure.

    • @akosyoutub
      @akosyoutub Місяць тому +3

      You watched the video??? It's about how many years it takes to train a pilot...

    • @ajaykumarsingh702
      @ajaykumarsingh702 Місяць тому

      The thing is that how much of Ukraine will be intact by then.
      The North Korean will arrive in few months too.
      And the one thing that is certain here is that these F-16s won't win the war for Ukraine.
      In the end, the inevitable cannot be prevented.

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine Місяць тому

      @@akosyoutub Yes, I watched. He didn’t talk about the issue of transitioning and while I love his channel, his title is misleading click bait. My comment was for people who likely wouldn’t watch full the video.

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine Місяць тому

      @@akosyoutub He would have talked about the example of Polish pilots trying to transition to the F-16 for the most appropriate example and biggest problem.

    • @akosyoutub
      @akosyoutub Місяць тому

      @@The_ZeroLine The Romanian AF is not fully combat capable after 10 years... They requested help from the German AF for air defense when the Russian missile fell on their territory. The Hungarian AF needed some 4 years to transition to the Gripen for the peace time air policing tasks, and worked together with the Mig-29s for years. So, there is real life data how much time is needed for this, and those are in peace time and not in a war.

  • @jcwoodman5285
    @jcwoodman5285 Місяць тому +3

    😂😂😂😂😂 right..

  • @connorwinton4343
    @connorwinton4343 Місяць тому

    FRS in the Navy is over a year... and we're starting from scratch. The Ukrainian pilots have to unlearn the Eastern doctrine.

  • @SlowrideSteve
    @SlowrideSteve Місяць тому

    Flying an aircraft and EMPLOYING an aircraft are two different things

  • @sachinkujur4218
    @sachinkujur4218 Місяць тому +23

    Ukraine has lost already this is over too late now my friend too late now!!

  • @tetraxis3011
    @tetraxis3011 Місяць тому +8

    It’s not like they matter that much anymore. They were supposed to provide air cover for the famous spring counteroffensive. Now that it failed, Ukraine is out of Tanks and out of attack helis. They can’t do another counteroffensive.

    • @tedarcher9120
      @tedarcher9120 Місяць тому

      Attack helis are for defence, not atttack

    • @hollowgonzalo4329
      @hollowgonzalo4329 Місяць тому +2

      @tetraxis3011
      I think the only realistic use for them now is firing off storm-shadows and jdams every now and then when the Russians are on the offensive maybe.
      They can't really do much in terms of air defence because there's not enough Patriots/Soviet AA systems any longer in most of Ukraine to sufficiently cover the airfields they'd be taking off from in the first place, old Soviet jets would be better for that since they're so much more versatile but they're practically all blown up or out of the air after the last 2.5 years as well.
      Really it's all just bullshit for vague propaganda purposes now.

    • @nasser-ist
      @nasser-ist Місяць тому

      @@hollowgonzalo4329 If you look at the near real-time GPS jamming maps, you'll figure out that the Storm-Shadow and JDAMS are essentially dumb bombs, also of no practical use. They essentailly become either intentional or unintentional tools of committing war crimes in the legal sphere.

    • @tetraxis3011
      @tetraxis3011 Місяць тому

      @@Statueshop297 Yea. True. But then how was the counteroffensive supposed to succeed if it had no air cover?

    • @tetraxis3011
      @tetraxis3011 Місяць тому

      @@hollowgonzalo4329 True. And there are no more countries willing to sell or donate Air worthy Soviet Jets.

  • @Stinger522
    @Stinger522 Місяць тому

    By the time the Vipers get to Ukraine, there might not be much of a Ukrainian Air Force left.

  • @cliffordnelson8454
    @cliffordnelson8454 Місяць тому

    Plus the F-16 apparently is very poor in remote airfields. And support equipment is not designed to operate in remote locatons. I think even the undercarriage does not work well on unimproved runways.

  • @qaseemabdii2591
    @qaseemabdii2591 Місяць тому +4

    M777 , Leopard , Chanllenger , Ibrams , Bradly , .... bla bla bla next F-16 ... 2 months Then no talk about it as all the previous