crazy in those days all they had in the terms of protective gloves were everyday house hold gloves or gardening gloves that you pick up in B&Q and Wickes..
It would be really cool if they somehow brought back the look of the Melton cloth tunic and oilskin pants. Of course with different materials though. We don't want them melting like they used to
Might have been antique but we saved the lives and put the fires out and rescued the public from major incidents like Hither Green and Moregate etc., etc! We put our lives on the line for the general public - and quite rightly so!
I'm still alive - just and I remember the BELL that the OIC used to ring as a forerunner to the two tones and I must not forget the flashing red fire light on the appliance. The good old days!!
The body is shaped like that to carry an old fashioned wheeled escape ladder. When they were replaced with the 135 (13.5 metre) ladder shown in the film, the ERFs were downgraded to Pump, rather than Pump Ladder. I remember complaints about the ERFs as they were cramped to ride in and firefighters had difficulty getting their gear on in the small space.
Very interesting reply Freeganjustin, were they cramped due to cab layout or large engine hump? please forgive my being stupid but I only ever saw one ERF in action as a TL based in York.
They were just smaller than the Dennis's and Shelvokes etc the guys had at the same time. Cab was shorter, narrower and worse had less headroom. Made it difficult to get dressed for firefighting on the move. Some people liked them. There was a big order of Dodge appliances about 1987 that replaced the ERFs and more. They had a 200 decibel motorway siren that quickly had to be disabled on the entire fleet as it was said to be capable of killing pedestrians.
No idea what the siren was, although it was one of the first US style wailers usec in the UK. The Dodges became controversial as they broke the LFB's policy of replacement every 12 years. They were durable enough to last for 20 years and the union said it was a disgrace.
Could be that the original tape or 16mm's sound track was in such poor condition the audio was stripped in conversion as the audio tracks were intermittent (I've experienced this with some old footage). Commentary sounds redubbed over more recently just like the music at the end.
The shortcomings of the PVC gloves and leggings was revealed in a major way at the Kings Cross Fire in1987, eventually modern fire resistant materials such as Nomex were adopted thereafter from 1990
Gear to be cleaned BEFORE going off duty, not when you come on or it was nut roasting time from the boss. Neckerchief??? In our brigade call them snotter beckets to stop the snot running down your neck. 😀
Depended on the Guv mine used to say he wanted your fire year spi c and span on watch change at start of shift plus your headlamps better be working - brightly! And when I was the Guv - I was a right bastard!
Those were the military fire appliances/. They used them in the London Fire Brigade during the multiple strikes the unions used to call back in the day. They were manned by members of the military to provide fire service for Londoners when the firefighters walked off the job looking for more money.
It has ALWAYS been illegal to measure distances along a Road in the UK in metric units. "Two lengths of large diameter hosecan be laid at speed for a distance of almost One Kilometre." at 9:40 NOT IN THE UK. It is only standard 3" branch hose anyway. Who are you - Remoaners?
oh sorry were you alive in 1983? you may have been but most likely very young yet my dad, born 1961 was most definitely alive during that time it was different. and it's not illegal...
Memories of my hometown that is Lewisham. How so many things have changed over the years.
crazy in those days all they had in the terms of protective gloves were everyday house hold gloves or gardening gloves that you pick up in B&Q and Wickes..
It's nice to see how we still haul aloft the exact same today as we did back then
Lee Taylor why change something that works?
It would be really cool if they somehow brought back the look of the Melton cloth tunic and oilskin pants. Of course with different materials though. We don't want them melting like they used to
Nice one Paul thanks for that
Jesus.... looking back, I can't believe the antique equipment we used to use and the old Machines..... Happy days. :-)
Might have been antique but we saved the lives and put the fires out and rescued the public from major incidents like Hither Green and Moregate etc., etc! We put our lives on the line for the general public - and quite rightly so!
Love all the muck that comes out of the ERF's exhaust !!
Not to mention the two tone horn that was in use by the fire appliance during this era
I'm still alive - just and I remember the BELL that the OIC used to ring as a forerunner to the two tones and I must not forget the flashing red fire light on the appliance. The good old days!!
The fuzz is louder then the two ton3s thats outrageous
Senga saw! Green oil! 😂
Watch this space Chuck... more to come ;-)
Great discipline :)
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Fancy seeing you here!
I'm guessing the hydrants were different 40 years ago, hence why they're turning them on and off the opposite direction
Before modern era hydrants, the older type, identifiable by a longer cover were opened clockwise and closed anti-clockwise. 😊
When will we see more videos?
That ERF looks great bet she sounded good too!
The body is shaped like that to carry an old fashioned wheeled escape ladder. When they were replaced with the 135 (13.5 metre) ladder shown in the film, the ERFs were downgraded to Pump, rather than Pump Ladder. I remember complaints about the ERFs as they were cramped to ride in and firefighters had difficulty getting their gear on in the small space.
Very interesting reply Freeganjustin, were they cramped due to cab layout or large engine hump? please forgive my being stupid but I only ever saw one ERF in action as a TL based in York.
They were just smaller than the Dennis's and Shelvokes etc the guys had at the same time. Cab was shorter, narrower and worse had less headroom. Made it difficult to get dressed for firefighting on the move. Some people liked them. There was a big order of Dodge appliances about 1987 that replaced the ERFs and more. They had a 200 decibel motorway siren that quickly had to be disabled on the entire fleet as it was said to be capable of killing pedestrians.
Very good information there, I thank you for it , out of interest what siren was it? was the Dodge a good machine? always liked Dennis myself.
No idea what the siren was, although it was one of the first US style wailers usec in the UK. The Dodges became controversial as they broke the LFB's policy of replacement every 12 years. They were durable enough to last for 20 years and the union said it was a disgrace.
"Listen to what paul has to say" I would but whoever made the film didn;t use audio!
Didn't*
@@florjanbrudar692 We all knew what the guy was trying to say, no need to belittle him.
Could be that the original tape or 16mm's sound track was in such poor condition the audio was stripped in conversion as the audio tracks were intermittent (I've experienced this with some old footage). Commentary sounds redubbed over more recently just like the music at the end.
17:50 - How to cause a burst water main!
at 16:00 those gloves look like something out of wickes, Garden gloves, Thank god they moved on to more fireproof gloves today
The shortcomings of the PVC gloves and leggings was revealed in a major way at the Kings Cross Fire in1987, eventually modern fire resistant materials such as Nomex were adopted thereafter from 1990
To this day Lewisham still only has 1 pump, an FRU and a command unit
Lost the CU now...
At Dockhead now
Can't hear you Paul!!
it's like the 60s !!
Yep it was well clean in Lewisham back then , right up until about the nineteen nineties.
@@cobragaming7068 1990s*
Bet a lot of lads got badly burnt with those plastic drip pance
Gear to be cleaned BEFORE going off duty, not when you come on or it was nut roasting time from the boss. Neckerchief??? In our brigade call them snotter beckets to stop the snot running down your neck. 😀
Depended on the Guv mine used to say he wanted your fire year spi c and span on watch change at start of shift plus your headlamps better be working - brightly! And when I was the Guv - I was a right bastard!
Not headlamps you tube - handlamps - God this lot sucks!
You tube listen you idiots, when I type FIRE GEAR don't print fire year!
The music towards the end really doesn't need to be in this video...
Blasted hell, everything looked a lot more smarter, neater and with pride back then - look at everything now - absolute crap
You can't really say that...
The pump lockers are almost empty! Look in a modern pump now
Why wa's the fire engine's green in them day's?
Those were the military fire appliances/. They used them in the London Fire Brigade during the multiple strikes the unions used to call back in the day. They were manned by members of the military to provide fire service for Londoners when the firefighters walked off the job looking for more money.
how is the women with the broken neck 😵
SO WHAT WAS PAUL SAYING? OR SINGING WAS IT SILLECE IS GOLDEN
3:15 shit??
SHIFTS you deaf boy
its not fire engine, it is fire appliance
It has ALWAYS been illegal to measure distances along a Road in the UK in metric units.
"Two lengths of large diameter hosecan be laid at speed for a distance of almost One Kilometre." at 9:40
NOT IN THE UK. It is only standard 3" branch hose anyway.
Who are you - Remoaners?
oh sorry were you alive in 1983? you may have been but most likely very young yet my dad, born 1961 was most definitely alive during that time it was different. and it's not illegal...