When Manstein Ignored Hitler's Order: German Army Trapped in Ukraine | Korsun-Cherkassy | WW2

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  • @lesbarfield305
    @lesbarfield305 2 дні тому +29

    Thank you. This story almost completely unknown, overshadowed by Moscow, Stalingrad, Kursk, but amazing story

  • @zacjames938
    @zacjames938 2 дні тому +59

    Mainstein always looked after his soldiers...

    • @jorgebarriosmur
      @jorgebarriosmur День тому +4

      His reputation also allowed him to get away with some things, other people would have paid a high price for

    • @patrickwatrin5093
      @patrickwatrin5093 День тому +1

      Oh yeah?

    • @MK-nd2ij
      @MK-nd2ij 19 годин тому

      Don't play stupid, if you know something he doesn't just explain it to him. You lack maturity and education.​@@patrickwatrin5093

    • @vietcongnva1197
      @vietcongnva1197 13 годин тому

      @@patrickwatrin5093 much more than Hilter cares for German Aryan for sure.

  • @ChritopherGazaway-rx6vo
    @ChritopherGazaway-rx6vo 2 дні тому +17

    Thank you for yet another awesome video!

  • @aldebaran19752000
    @aldebaran19752000 2 дні тому +40

    von Manstein saved his troops but lost his command. He was replaced by Model

    • @nefasto11a
      @nefasto11a 2 дні тому +7

      Actually, his removal of command came a month later, during the battle of the Kamenets-Podolsky pocket, where the 1st Panzer Army became encircled on 21 March, when permission to break out was not received from Hitler in time. Manstein flew to Hitler's headquarters in Lvov to try to convince him to change his mind. Hitler eventually relented, but relieved Manstein of his command on 30 March 1944.

    • @danielb7253
      @danielb7253 День тому

      Hitler never trusted him 100%. some say..Mannstein was part Jewish.

  • @richardscanlan3419
    @richardscanlan3419 2 дні тому +27

    Always found the Eastern Front theatre of WW2 absolutely fascinating.Just a bloodbath on steroids.

    • @MWL4466
      @MWL4466 День тому +1

      Same here. The numbers are just staggering ! Unbelievable losses. If old Adolf had got his mitts on the oil fields of the Caucases it could have been much different.

    • @richardscanlan3419
      @richardscanlan3419 День тому

      @@MWL4466 yes,it certainly would have been.Access to the Caucusus oil feilds ( Maikop/Groznty) would have at least extended the war in the east.
      Sobering that the video says the russkies lost another 9 million before the end of the war.

    • @TheJimmyidol
      @TheJimmyidol День тому +2

      My main area of interest as well.

    • @richardscanlan3419
      @richardscanlan3419 День тому

      @@TheJimmyidol yeah,and the thing is we have all the footage of these events unfolding.
      Seriously harrowing stuff.

    • @ruthmoreau6419
      @ruthmoreau6419 20 годин тому +1

      That's where the real war was fought!

  • @TheMrmango69
    @TheMrmango69 День тому +13

    always the the best ww2 videos - hidden gem of a channel, glad to see you're growing too! Well deserved

  • @jerrycoronado6887
    @jerrycoronado6887 Годину тому +1

    This story is eerily reminiscent of the breakout of the German 9th Army after Seelow Heights to link up with the 12th Army shortly after Halbe. That breakout was a stern test of German resolve and for those who made it they were able to surrender to the US Army instead of the Russians.

  • @markmccormack1796
    @markmccormack1796 День тому +8

    So sad for the fighting men of both sides.

  • @philbradley7859
    @philbradley7859 2 дні тому +7

    Another excellent video , well done

  • @JayTide
    @JayTide 2 дні тому +7

    Great video. Well done

  • @Europa_woche
    @Europa_woche 2 дні тому +7

    beautiful video, thanks ❤

  • @DeepTexas
    @DeepTexas 2 дні тому +9

    great channel!

  • @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
    @Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 2 дні тому +16

    The Germans were very skilled at pulling back and holding a corridor to escape. It's no surprise that 29,000 men managed to slip out of the Korsun-Cherkassy encirclement, they had done the exact same thing in the Falaise Gap in Normandy.

    • @DeepTexas
      @DeepTexas 2 дні тому +3

      perhaps it’s a shame that hitler was obsessed with holding out until the last man

    • @jeffreyball6618
      @jeffreyball6618 День тому

      Hitler was a fanatic and la la la. Also people. Need to educate themselves no savior is on the scene and people need to stop listening to clowns. ​@@DeepTexas

    • @leighz1962
      @leighz1962 День тому

      @DeepTexas
      Shartler was obsessed with Russia and Germany being destroyed.. like he was some British puppet.

    • @therealjaystone2344
      @therealjaystone2344 2 години тому

      @@DeepTexasHitler thought they can be like Japan

  • @michaelstudd533
    @michaelstudd533 День тому +3

    Your videos are so good, how the hell do you get this footage? After over 20 years of WW2 I never see the footage you use ever before. Just amazing

  • @cavetroll666
    @cavetroll666 2 дні тому +8

    Thanks for video

  • @victorydaydeepstate
    @victorydaydeepstate День тому +7

    Isn't this where Léon Degrelle won his knights cross of the iron cross?

  • @JohnWick-el9yw
    @JohnWick-el9yw 2 дні тому +8

    I heard H/itler would confront his generals really angry when they talked about retreat.

    • @jeffreyball6618
      @jeffreyball6618 День тому

      Hitler was not a citizen of germany. Not educated. A clown drug addict etc The dude who took peoplet

    • @jeffreyball6618
      @jeffreyball6618 День тому +1

      Koresh took people to central america. Etc. People need to think

    • @danilorainone406
      @danilorainone406 День тому +1

      der furhrer doin der donald duckischer fitzen

    • @leighz1962
      @leighz1962 День тому +2

      I heard gumshots when the soviet commanders suggested retreat.

    • @jamestaylor1984
      @jamestaylor1984 День тому +4

      ​​@@leighz1962that's what the Commissar's were for, shooting Soviet soldiers who refused to commit suicide via Wehrmacht.

  • @nickthurlow4456
    @nickthurlow4456 2 дні тому +11

    Amazing Footage , thanks for the video

  • @johnandersen5959
    @johnandersen5959 День тому +4

    Manstein did not allow the 6th army to abandonn Stalingrad- yet later he blamed Pauli’s not a honest fact.

  • @Samila009
    @Samila009 День тому +5

    Germanys only fault, they stretched too much , but still I salute all the soldiers during ww2 , betrayed by their governments by denying adequate supplies for oil ,food , and moreover chilling winter took a toll on german soldiers, poor training specially for Russians😮
    Their government did kill these innocent soldiers, people for their own interests...

  • @Neso-be2lj
    @Neso-be2lj 2 дні тому +60

    Russians did not came to play around with Germans! I'm by no means a fan...but they where brave Soldiers...they just keep on comming,pushing,atacking,despite crazy losses...You can't win against Army like that...just relentless,but Germans did enormous damage to Russian core population...20 million gone in 4 years,they still can't properely recover even today from that.

    • @erichhartmann3960
      @erichhartmann3960 2 дні тому +19

      Russians were provided by the allies.

    • @kieranororke620
      @kieranororke620 2 дні тому +18

      ​@@erichhartmann3960It doesn't matter what help They got. The Soviets still had to defeat the Germans themselves, fighting and dying in vast numbers, whether they had Western supplies or not. Too bad the Nazis believed their own deranged ideology instead of facing the reality that these eastern 'subhumans' were just as hard, tough-willed and ready to sacrifice themselves for their cause as we're the German soldiers themselves.

    • @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
      @Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 2 дні тому +6

      @@kieranororke620 Yeah tbf lend lease didn't arrive in force until 1942, and they had already pushed Army Group Centre back some 150 miles from Moscow in 1941.

    • @ChritopherGazaway-rx6vo
      @ChritopherGazaway-rx6vo 2 дні тому +12

      ​@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-Don't forget that the Wehrmacht NEVER had a chance to win in the East... FAR too much was asked of far too few men.

    • @timpatrick2109
      @timpatrick2109 2 дні тому +3

      @@ChritopherGazaway-rx6vo Hitler expected a quick collapse especially after a decade of Stalins purges and perhaps a government overthrow and quick surrender. Stalin nearly had a mental breakdown and was surprised his underlings didn’t hang but instead pleaded for his leadership. AH rolled the dice and lost. I think providence played a role.

  • @retiredcolonel6492
    @retiredcolonel6492 День тому +16

    The Wehrmacht fought for an evil cause and they are not innocent of many acts of the Holocaust, but as a soldier I admire their bravery and devotion in fighting to the bitter end even knowing that there was no hope for victory after Kursk in the East and the Ardennes in the West. The Russians were tough too but their commanders wasted their lives. In Ukraine today one sees the lack of concern for the lives of Russian soldiers.

    • @leighz1962
      @leighz1962 День тому

      It also shows how little the all lies allies care about 2020 or 1920/30 gennocides.. when the govts are all run by zionists clearing out their homeland/links in Ukraine..

    • @tuncozbora2244
      @tuncozbora2244 День тому +1

      How do you know , Russia lack of concern for his sons ? How do you know ?

    • @alexandermelbaus2351
      @alexandermelbaus2351 День тому

      Germany saved half of Europe and suffered near total destruction. The Europeans lead by Germany fought to the bitter end to save Europe from the Communist thugs that had taken over Russia; (Allies) Austria, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Romania, Italy, Croatia, Bulgaria, Finland and Slovakia. Volunteers joined the SS from across Europe; 20,000 from France and 60,000 from Holland are two countries from a long list. I suggest people familiarise themselves with this cause.

    • @kenlake270
      @kenlake270 День тому +1

      Russia has always treated it's men as cannon fodder. The militaryleXef

    • @VVeltanschauung187
      @VVeltanschauung187 День тому +4

      The Allies and the Soviets were much more evil.

  • @NikhilSingh-007
    @NikhilSingh-007 13 годин тому +3

    Ah yes, the 'get out of jail Hitler madman card'.

  • @joachimdippold8763
    @joachimdippold8763 17 годин тому +1

    Respect! for pronouncing the german names quite good, i think youŕe not a native speaker so really: well done!

  • @wolfgangnickisch3916
    @wolfgangnickisch3916 14 годин тому +1

    Danke!

  • @WilliamandGabesWorld
    @WilliamandGabesWorld День тому +5

    Such brave men. Germany army was something special

    • @thomasmyers9128
      @thomasmyers9128 17 годин тому

      If murderous invaders are special….
      Then they are equal too today’s Russian military….

    • @UnderpaidKraken
      @UnderpaidKraken 15 годин тому +1

      @@thomasmyers9128 you’re pretty slow, aren’t you buddy?

    • @thomasmyers9128
      @thomasmyers9128 14 годин тому

      @ compared to Putin… I make Einstein look stupid…. 😳

  • @zacjames938
    @zacjames938 2 дні тому +6

    Love watching your documentary’s factual and emotional can only guess what them men went threw real hard soldiers never given up....thanks and keep up the good work big shout out from the uk🙂

  • @HealthTubeOfficial_
    @HealthTubeOfficial_ 2 дні тому +4

    🔥

  • @craigtank4067
    @craigtank4067 День тому +1

    I don’t think you can impute knowledge of atrocities or complicity in them to the front line German soldiers. The atrocities were happening behind them. I think the only time frontline German soldiers would have had knowledge of atrocities would have been because they saw it because of a retreat. Hitler didn’t allow much in the way of retreats.

  • @zillsburyy1
    @zillsburyy1 2 дні тому +2

    32:14 MP44? whats the date this all took place?

    • @JunkyardDogffa
      @JunkyardDogffa День тому

      That could be an mkb42(H) or mp43. It's impossible to tell from the grainy footage provided. There were almost 30,000 of these weapons in the field by the end of 1943.

  • @otfriedschellhas3581
    @otfriedschellhas3581 10 годин тому

    My dad (Waffen SS, Das Reich Div.) Considered the Finns "out only worthwhile comrades in arms,". He also liked their country, having been there on a forest combat course.

  • @melvinjohnson2074
    @melvinjohnson2074 Годину тому

    As Paulus's immediate superior he let the sixth army die at Stalingrad.

  • @seebass7
    @seebass7 2 дні тому +2

    Why does this guy sound like he’s sounding out common words for the first time ever at random spots in the video?

    • @jayo3074
      @jayo3074 2 дні тому +8

      Either he's reading from a script or he wanted to pronounce the German names correctly. Just be happy it's a human narrating and not some awful AI

    • @leighz1962
      @leighz1962 День тому

      He is British. It is new to him to speak English clearly.

  • @PakawanDuangsuwan
    @PakawanDuangsuwan 15 годин тому

    If I'm right at 06:22 we can see soldiers taking cover behind walls of frozen mud, snow, poo and corpses. This is also what veterans of the Belgian SS units told in the TV series "De Oostfronters" van Maurice de Wilde. This documentary series also has a episode about the Cherkasi pocket. Veterans described the horror scenes at the river, tanks driving back and forward over the escaping men and also Leon de Grelle in full uniform with his romanticised views on the events.

  • @TheWellnessHub15
    @TheWellnessHub15 2 дні тому +3

    Yessss

  • @christopherfriend7402
    @christopherfriend7402 4 години тому

    The bravest of the brave, and probably the craziest of all had to be the tank crews of both sides. I can't even imagine what must have been going through what remained of their sound minds as they drove their tracked monsters into what they had to know was an almost certain gruesome death. Nor can I imagine the PTSD suffered by the survivors.
    It's an understated shame the men of both sides had to suffer so much and sacrifice their lives for two murderous evil dictators. But I salute them all as brave soldiers.

  • @NileBoat
    @NileBoat День тому +5

    Ahem.. the Fritz Hamann of this ww2 engagement was NOT the man pictured. The man pictured in this video was infamous serial killer Fritz Haarmann, executed in 1925.

    • @historyatwar
      @historyatwar  День тому +7

      Yes I’m aware unfortunately my editor added the wrong photo, we really struggled to find a photo of Fritz and we found this photo on a forum, it was in Russian we thought it was him, our mistake!!

  • @brendanreynolds8994
    @brendanreynolds8994 2 дні тому +26

    Got to give it the germans fought like shit out numbered but fought like shit great soldiers dont forget that

    • @timpatrick2109
      @timpatrick2109 2 дні тому +18

      One of the benefits of having a cohesive Army bound together by culture and love of country. Exactly the things “ they “ are trying to destroy in every Western nation today.

    • @blakegoulds8313
      @blakegoulds8313 2 дні тому +18

      Germans were the finest soldiers in WW2. Unity is a strength. Not diversity.

    • @joachimthielker3132
      @joachimthielker3132 2 дні тому +2

      Imagine we (I am a German) had won the war. A world I do not want to live in.

    • @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
      @Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 2 дні тому +4

      @@timpatrick2109 Yes, the German 'mission based' training allowed their officers down to lowest junior level to be far more flexible in responding to quickly altering scenarios on the battlefield.

    • @timpatrick2109
      @timpatrick2109 2 дні тому

      @@joachimthielker3132 Me either. But certain forces who are equally evil as the N…S, and just as power hungry, like to shame the German people and the other successful Western nations into cultural self destruction and self hatred. This is evil in the opposite way of what the N…S were doing and should be resisted.

  • @dukejulito
    @dukejulito День тому

    Sometimes the narrator's voice get slow and then accelerates , it's normal?

  • @johnblasik9647
    @johnblasik9647 21 годину тому +1

    Is there a channel that doesn’t portray the Germans noble warriors fighting off the trog Ivans?

    • @ruthmoreau6419
      @ruthmoreau6419 19 годин тому +1

      Is there a channel that doesn't portray the Russians as 'Our gallant Soviet allies'?

    • @UnderpaidKraken
      @UnderpaidKraken 15 годин тому +1

      Keep coping, buddy.

    • @johnblasik9647
      @johnblasik9647 9 годин тому

      @@UnderpaidKrakenCoping? The Russians won, big time.

    • @UnderpaidKraken
      @UnderpaidKraken 6 годин тому

      @@johnblasik9647 Yes, and? What’s your point? Lmfao

  • @georgiebestmanutd4746
    @georgiebestmanutd4746 День тому

    Why are the Brits BoJo, Sunak, Starmer so blood thirsty 4 Slavic blood Special Military Operation. One of the Wehrmacht who escaped cauldron, survived WW2 & retired in France. In fluent French, he confessed to French TV he never complained about anything ever since he escaped the cauldron

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 День тому

    Cruelty of weather combination of wars brutalities besides the insisting of victory ✌️ results by both sides desirable (which is unreasonable) created ultra beast circumstances

  • @JakeConny12
    @JakeConny12 2 дні тому +2

    🎉🎉🎉

  • @polarstorm5986
    @polarstorm5986 2 години тому

    It is...well..."amusing"...how the definetly young narrator trys to put "weight" into this by the choosing of words and pronounciation but the gravitas still is missing.

  • @davidh6300
    @davidh6300 День тому

    Wow

  • @poppymyth8868
    @poppymyth8868 День тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @Artemis-d2c
    @Artemis-d2c День тому +1

    Just like russian army ignored civilian putin's order and trapped in Ukeaine? lol

  • @brianford8493
    @brianford8493 День тому +2

    And how did that all work out for Frirz? 😂

  • @BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia
    @BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia День тому +3

    Russians aren't brave soldiers, only because they had people prepared to kill them if they didn't do as they where told. This is also happening in Ukraine today.
    My grandfather fought these Red Bolshevik bastards in the Finnish Winter War and Continuation War.
    The POW told how stuff worked and why they attacked even if they knew that they wad to die.
    They got an honorary dead instead of a death of a coward.
    People do not understand what tyranny and dictatorship is all about, and think it's bravery by their people, when it's the stupidity of their leaders that it's all about

    • @jrobertsoneff
      @jrobertsoneff День тому

      Teenagers are dragged off the streets in ukraine to fight in Yankee nazi war just like in finland.

    • @puppet7889
      @puppet7889 4 години тому

      My Great-Great Grandfather fought the Reds in the Finnish Civil War, and my Great Grandfather fought them in the Winter and continuation war