@@thomasway0320 tbh riot a lot of stuff sub-optimally but banning scripters is not one of them. sneaky has been a pro at the game for 8 years and never faced a scripter until this jinx, and i've been playing the game 5 years and only faced one. afaik they ban in waves but they do a pretty good job at keeping the game clean compared to any other game i've played.
It’s clear just by watching how the movement is perfectly 90degrees perpendicular to all the skill shots as soon as they leave. It’s not even humanly possible to tell the direction yet but the enemy is already moving perfectly sideways.
I am fairly confident that ez q is simply too hard to reliably dodge unless at max range. Put any legitimate player well within ez q range and tell them to dodge 20 bronze ez qs. Its just impossible.
You also noticed around I think 9-10 minutes in after Sneaky realizes he's scripting and clals him bad ROLF, and then the Jinx come sback ot lane...she's inside of her minion wave walking down, Sneaky throws an Ezreal Q at the front of the wave while she's inside of wave, AND SHE STILL DODGES.
yep just freeze frame every time sneaky shoots a q and there is immediate reaction perfectly perpendicular by jinx. literally every single time. even, as sneaky and others point out, in situations in which the q cannot hit, and no normal high elo player would dodge. this footage totally has the guy dead to rights 100% here. not that riot is gonna ban him or anything lol.
His 2v1 Bot after the Janna flash R and right before with the dodges after sneaky E'd in was the most obvious points for me. This was the genuine first I have seen a video like this that I actually really could tell tbh
I disagree, him dodging like that is a dead giveaway. No human dodges perpendicular from the skill at the same exact angle from the skill every time to perfectly break any chance of it hitting them, as soon as the skill is casted, before the animation of where it's headed visually even begins. Humans dodge differently depending on where their mouse is positioned and attention is focused. This is true for everyone. Not even the best in the world can dodge a perfect Ezreal q with boots 2 movespeed, because if it's shot at the perfect angle to the champion it literally can't miss unless you move perfectly perpendicular from the beginning 1/4 of it's cast. His auto attacks in general seem perfectly fine, his switching of the gun when in range is something most Jinx mains with a lot of practice can do and there are plenty of people humanly capable of handling AA cancelling/ orb walking at variable AS on Jinx to an insane degree. What isn't humanly possible is his W locking onto people's position from a screen away, instantly with no line-up, off cooldown, and only casting perfectly in-between auto animations while doing so. Also of course, the aforementioned dodging is not possible consistently either.
that happened like 2 days ago and the account is still active, they are still playing games on it. Edit: I just noticed that he was playing ranked games only, the moment he went up against sneaky and this happened he stopped playing ranked and started playing normal games for like 2 days. Now he started playing ranked again.
@@urbanlegendbb i doubt it, i don’t think riot bans people from Qing ranked. i’m not sure if they have done that at any point. i think they realised they played against someone with a platform and did something that puts their account out of the way of being banned
Riot bans players for using text, which can be muted or not read. They don't care about the competitive integrity of their game or people that actively ruin matches. Scripting, inting, wintrading take much more to punish generally.
17:33 the only time jinx actually gets hit outside of w animation is when she doesn't have vision, script is 100% just looking for the skillshot animations
not to act like I know what script was in use here, but the skill-shot based scripts i've seen (from scripter pov) don't need vision to function. It basically uses overlays to outline "threat zones" for skillshots as soon as the server registers the input. Like Ez ult will shows a red path across the entire map as soon as he presses R before the animation even charges up or a projectile comes out --- the "threat zone" or "kill zone" is displayed to the scripter as an overlay. The actual dodging was done manually but when you see "threat zones" before they are even shot ...it makes manually side stepping extremely easy and removes 100% of the guesswork of "maybe i can dodge this" ...you always know you can dodge it or not via these advanced "tells" but yeah, i saw that one time she didnt dodge an ezreal Q as it went over a bush where there was presumably no vision --- but her team was also pushing with alistar in front of her so it's very conceivable she just face tanked the Q to push the tempo...jinx wasn't in danger if she ate that Q.
@@_FirstLast_ they aren't toggling it off and on I think, look at tower dive at 4:55 she could've just tanked W Q and auto'd him once but scripts didn't let her. So it is vision based, it's looking for the champion windup animations, if can't see champ can't dodge.
@@virno69420 I mean ok but honestly, from a programming stand point ....you don't "look" for animations given by line of sight -- you just listen to the server feed and "see" that a shot has been fired from the dark and is headed at you, and you dodge it. There's no need for vision. The client uses "vision" as a universal handicap and hides the fact that the client knows ezreal is there, unseen, and using Q. Game clients generally only show you 5% of the game data in your UI. The vast majority is behind the scenes, but none the less fully known by the client. Also, that clip at 4:55 the jinx would have died to tower shots/autos if she committed to the kill -- that's not a script preventing her from doing anything -- if it was scripted she was actually closer to exiting tower range by running to the right instead of left. But she would take auto damage and trade 1 for 1 for sure. Running left and leaving the kill is just an intelligent move that had nothing to do with any assumed script.
@@_FirstLast_ @First Last maphacks aren't a thing for a reason, your client doesn't receive info from the server actively to the enemy position while they're in fog unless they proc certain things such as an item or any udyr ability. I know this because I used to personally develop scripts. There is no easily accessible output of this "server feed" you're talking out of your ass mate. Also the argument over 4:55 is precisely that the dodge script isn't considering her being under enemy tower or tower range at all and thus, the scripts in order to dodge the ezreal skillshots took the most inefficient route to escape tower range ruining the dive. Also, you really don't believe ezreal dies from a si glue auto and the 75%hp jinx with passive movespeed just walks out of tower range? Are you really that bad?
@@virno69420 Not sure how your panties got that far up your crack, but I started this entire post with a disclaimer that I don't know what (if any) hack is used by this jinx. I'm just explaining how other hacks I've seen and written operate. Still, you looking for a "reason" for her movement to fit what you already believe in your head (that she's scripting) doesn't explain that just walking out of tower aggro is the better play that a human doesn't need a script to execute. Actually, I do believe a 60 hp Ezreal dies to a single Jinx auto (could be wrong, and I'm not afraid to be wrong or admit it). It would be close with 78ad on Jinx and 33 armor on Ezreal ...but it just makes more sense to walk out and press W regardless And yeah, I think it's pretty easy to see that jinx dies if she walks up to auto ezreal after dodging the skill-shots, even with her passive boost. The tower will still hit her an extra time ...that would easily explain why she just casually walked out of tower range to drop aggro and then wait to kill ezreal with her W. Sneaky even acknowledge this by saying, "I'm actually so dead". That's just an intelligent play, scripted or not. You aren't the only person to ever write scripts, and assuming you actually have written scripts ...you realize each and every script is as unique as the author and the client it's modifying. You know exactly what I'm talking about with "server feed" if you have any idea at all about scripting/coding. That's not "out of my ass", that's hacking 101. That's basic shit, dude.
@@amadeux5471 Yeah exactly, same here. I was a bit skeptical but thought maybe it's just a solo queue pop off game but then when both bot lanes were mid and she was auto dodging his q's even though he shot them at minions and she was behind them it's such a dead giveaway.
After that he does (whether intentional or not he throws one to the left) and even after ALL of those to the right training her brain she dodges right like come on.
BRUHHH that janna has perfect eyes, 1 of the good ways u have to see if someone is scripting is when they use certain "chains" of skills, 11:07 u can see the scripts perfectly in action there wasnt even 0.1 sec of animation on that shit
@@poopsyman As for i understand, scripts in short term, remove most of the animations trying to reduce the response time, thats why u can see clearly scripts with certain skills, in this case, jinx traps cant be animation cancel atleast not like that
Sneaky is the chilliest and pro player ever. He legit never gets too mad or too excited at the game, except when its a bug or something outside of the game. whenever one of those happens, he gets so mad.
What gave it away the most is the fact that, if you look at it closely, he's reacting not to the skillshot flying at him, but actually to the CAST ANIMATION -- that makes it look like none of the skillshots were going to hit in the first place, because he dodges them BEFORE they actually fire
Well technically people react to the cast animation as well not only on the skillshot. Every skill has a “cast time” if you are aware of the cast animation of the character you can react even more quickly. Even melee champs has cast animations. The sus part was how quickly anf how perfect the jinx was able to dodge everything. It felt like as sneaky pressed W the scripts already starts dodging. There were cases were even if sneakys q was going to hit a minnion the jinx would still dodge away from it’s path.
@@ojouniisama5401 What he means is that whenever you cast an ability since the beginning of the animation it already has a direction and thats when the scripter activates even before you and can see the actual skill shot and with that see the direction
@@ojouniisama5401 well yeah, you can react to the animation too, but I don't think it's humanly possible to precisely establish the direction of the skillshot at that point, so you can't really 'reactively dodge', but rather 'try to predict and evade' (kinda what Sneaky said in the end)
It's pretty dang obvious through out the whole video, but I think that moment takes the cake. Just thinking of the logistics that would be involved if a person's hand was doing that is hilarious.
@@morpheusg4154 stfu. Your friend, when chasing, will smell where a tornado is coming from, run back and forth on the spot as a bm, and then suddenly flash late? You can see him fighting the scripts while it tries to protect him. That's why he flashed after dodged away, why not flash instantly? Because he didn't know he was going to dodge.
I love how Sneaky just experiments on Jinx instead of trying to actually hit skillshots. The worst thing is, besides Sneaky having Ezreal versus a scripter, the enemy team is also a front-to-back comp that is supposed to peel for Jinx, which makes the script even more... Useful? Efficient? I don't know the right word.
what made it clear that he was cheating was how he was reacting to Janna's Q. He either moved the moment Janna started a Q towards him, not after it started moving, or he stayed still if the Q wasnt aimed at him
He would dodge everything. Weren't you paying attention when Sneaky was mid lane? He threw so many obvious misses to the right of the guy and he ALWAYS would sidestep to the left
The scripter in this video has a habit of leaving the dodge script or something on. 6:19 to 6:22 and 6:34 to 6:38. The tower dive by Jinx made me believe it's a scripter before I posted.
It actually depends.. at the moment of the throw jinx instantly reacts to the opposite side. But when the skill is coming into her, as close as it might pass by her, if it's not actually going to hit her she just zaps or aa back instantly.
@@Expllosaoriginal Sneaky didn't miss to the right. He was just aiming to the right half of his hitbox to make it so Jinx can ONLY avoid the skillshot by going left. If he tries to dodge right he would still get hit.
It's obvious, but the funniest moment for me was when Jinx cleared a ward and ran perfect circles in between attacks like "Yeah, that is normal behaviour"
Every Q he landed Jinx was either in W cast time, trapped against a wall, or Sneaky was out of vision. She actually reacts during the cast time to dodge it, before anyone could possibly tell which direction the skillshot is going. Idk how riot can't tell when a 90degree movement happens at the same time as a skillshot is cast, but scripters never last long before they get banned.
@@thefurrydevil6211 Never seen a scripter since I started playing in 2015. Maybe some suspicions sometimes but not something as blatant as that. I don't think scripters are as often as you describe.
The two I ever remember playing against was a Xerath and a Yasuo. The movements and windwalls were insane on the Yasuo and the Xerath hit literally ever abilities. The Xerath ults were painful
@15:32 q hits when line of sight blocked by tower @17:32 q hits when jinx had no vision, no dodge reaction @17:50 again, q only hits when jinx has no vision, and no script dodge reaction. Every Q within line of sight was dodged, the only Q’s that connected were interrupted line of sight
A tell-tale sign of a scripter is if they ever juke in little circles, you can see her do it a few times. Humans do not juke in circles like that because it is very inefficient to do with a mouse, but for a program it is ideal
The longer I watched, the more I noticed how perfectly clipped every singe auto was, like it was only playing a fifth of the animation. So weird to watch
@@Luizhmc drop the nick. We should harrass riot until they at least notice the situation, the fact that they are a lot of high elo player in almost every server and kinda shameful.
@@eduardopardo9629 Ye this guy and u are just wrong. There's barely any scripters and when they're found they're banned very quickly if they made it through the anticheat.
You was wondering what type of system that script uses, I have the answer. The new LoL building softwares (such as BLITZ app) uses client/game log and process coding to read what is going on simultaneously. As soon as you pick a champion, it puts the champion build on the client for you. The same can be done with the skills your opponent uses. You can program a reaction on the same time an opponent skill is used. When you hit Q on your keyboard, it is shown on the program process log "0.5 sec, show Q animation, X/Y coordinates, if it hits, show damage animation, etc etc". The script software can read that and then program a reaction for it instantaneously, exactly how BLITZ app does.
@@nhyar yes that can just happen sometimes, e2 has 0 cast time and is directional, most scripts just don't try to dodge it at all due to how weird of a skillshot it is to be programmed into an evade
@@virno69420 depends on the script, i have never use something like that, but i have seen a log of videos and some programmes doesn't just dodge the skill shot, they show you every misile and ability range and direction, so you can side step it.
reminds me of when faker went up against a scripting karthus that would Q on command as soon as the enemy was in range and still dodged every almost every Q
I went back and watched some of the game that i referenced above, if you want to watch it yourself go sneaky’s twitch channel and the stream a week ago today around 3hours and 45 min in sneaky is playing ziggs with the same jinx adc. In my not professional opinion at all around 18 minutes into the game i saw jinx dodging ss’s from out of vision and pinging a thresh hex flash out of vision as well..
@same Some stuff gets detected in Fog of War such as few empowered attacks or attacking mobs in the jungle and just some random stuff like that, you can also know every single spells the enemy cast from Fog of War such as Flash/Hex flash, some sorts of stuff make some champions in some specific cases completly visible from Fog of War
Since Sneaky is playing DBFZ now, I thought I might add this: The concept of the "mental stack" from fighting games is a pretty good one to explain why dodging on reaction (especially in league, of all things) is literally inhuman. Reacting to skillshots is possible on reaction in the situation where the player is ONLY looking for it. The more things you have to be aware of however, this adds to the 'mental stack.' The more things in the mental stack, the harder it is to react to things. This is typically used to explain how react-able mix-ups/grabs can hit people in fighting games. If a player has other options (overheads, lows, left-right, etc.) they have to worry about, the mental stack makes react-able things REALLY hard to react to, since you have so much to worry about. Now imagine how much harder *dodging on reaction* is when you have 9 other champions in the game you have to keep track of, literally chimping out with all four of their abilities. So it's safe to say there's a crazy amount of fucking mental stack going on in this game-- which is why people dodge pre-emptively rather than by reaction... because good luck keeping track of 9 champions and their interactions, along with your own character/cooldowns/summs, all for the sake of dodging one skillshot from one person. DBFZ player "GO1" is considered a god for being able to react to anything, while being presented with 5-6 different things to worry about. Imagine how many options you have to consider in a league game, with 9 other players. I just thought this was just a cool way to look at how fucking insane this Jinx's movement was. Also I'm a huge fucking nerd ayyyy
FYI : im a mobile moba player interested in playing league (still no gaming pc so it is just a dream atm lolz) It is very confusing for me to understand how people see that as scripting until i realised that league player use their cursor to both aim skill and change the direction they walk. Beside the perfect 90 degree side step it looks like normal gameplay to my eyes.
@@virno69420 Here’s an exercise, watch this account and see how long it takes for him to get banned. I submitted a ticket with video evidence last year, never banned.
The account is so obviously boosted too, this guy was a Lulu one trick through 53 games of ranked, then suddenly played a bunch of random shit in Flex, plays a bunch of Veigar co-op games, and then is suddenly smurfing on people in Granmaster/Challenger as ADC despite having never seemingly played the role before
So, Sneaky mentions that this is the first time he has played against a scripter, but he also mentions that he never would have noticed if it weren't for the fact that he was playing Ezreal. It's probably safe to assume that he has actually faced scripters in the past, but simply didn't notice they were scripting because he wasn't playing a champion so reliant on skillshots. Really makes you think...
The tell for me was the *instant* movement anytime a skillshot was fired. The W after 15:00 was out of vision and he started sidestepping the second it was fired, rather than narrowly missing by an actual reaction.
This is very wrong. The W was never going to hit and the script didn't attempt to dodge it at all. Many other examples of her getting hit from fog of war, the script can't dodge if they're out of vision. Also, missing narrowly consistently isn't what legitimate dodging is, you'd expect the script to only walk outside of the skillshot hitbox and not a pixel farther.
how big of a problem is scripting? I have seen it maybe once on a Cass out of thousands and thousands of games. She is 1000% cheating, but Is it something that is really only seen in super high level play?
It's something that anyone below diamond likely won't have the knowledge to beat. Thus they typically end up high diamond or above, and most of the players they beat along the way won't even realize just how many things are being dodged frame-perfectly
Scripting basically is using AI to do movements for you in reaction to what the enemy does. So it takes no human skill to avoid/hit things they way it should be. one of the most common champions to see scripting on is xerath. (in my opinion) but ive only seen about 3 or 4 this year so far.
Cheating in general can come in many different forms but "scripting" itself I'd say is fairly common. You won't always notice it since it doesn't automatically mean the person using said scripts knows a single thing about the game or where to go. If you want to see more scripts play more ARAM and more normal games, that's where you find the majority of cheaters. Cheating is sadly common and league doesn't do much about it. You will just have to accept it and move on, dont take the game seriously and play for fun. If it isn't a scripter, a griefer, or high elo player wanting to stomp out gold players for youtube vids it's a booster who can do all 3 and really wants to ruin someones league day. You can't even escape it on TFT sometimes. People cheat in tft! It's not a serious competitive game
Easy way to tell if an account was boosted or bought is to check it's history and look at what keys they use for summoner spells. This jinx's account has flash first summoner spell, but if you go back in the history far enough it suddenly switches to the other way around. I don't know about you, but people don't do that, it fucks with muscle memory. Some else is playing the account with Flash on F and this guy plays with flash on D. Could be a booster or the account seller or who knows.
The hack he's using probably has three presets. One for auto dodging, one for AA tracking and one to turn it off so he doesn't look sus. (His abilities are probably defaults to auto track just by using them.) You can tell every time his character model tracks onto a unit. At 17:32 when going to auto attack Sneaky he gets hit by ezreal q. He didn't even try to dodge it either. It's honestly gross and should definitely not be in the community.
@Sneaky you probably won't see this but the script I saw a video on years ago was like what you suggested. It isn't on all the time, you held a button. The thing is if i recall correctly the UI overlay showed everything. You can see drawn lines all over you screen for places you can't stand as skill shots are coming. So even if you aren't holding the "button" it's still telling you where you can stand. This jinx never stopped holding the "button"
The limit test with Ezreal against scripters (unless the bot has more in-depth know of the game) that I was expecting that Sneaky could try is to W/Q slightly to one side of the enemy hitbox to force a dodge to the opposite side and almost instantly aim with the other skillshot to the side the scripter is moving and see how the script react.
I remember hearing something that the best way to identify a scripter is to use normal cast and aim at the champion without using the skillshot... If the champion dodges without you using the skillshot, its a scripter
I dont think this works. That kind of input is only delivered to the server if the action is cast. The server sends the cast to the other players and the script probably registers this cast and automatically moves out of the trajectory. I think this was definetely a scripter. These dodges were inhuman. If you dodge 80% of all skillshots aimed at you you are a good player. Another test would be shooting from brush. If she actively dodges a shot she cannot see, that is a script.
Also, you can tell that she moves with a "circle" around. She perfectly dodges until the skillshots are outside of that circle, then she continues what she was doing. It was true for every single skillshot thrown at her. You can see she is not always perfectly moving to the side, but "circling" around the skillshots.
So I’m not sure if sneaky will see this but I have watched a few videos on the more common kind of script because I got curious on it as well. It seems that, that particular script in the video would let you play pretty standardly while basically inputting movements for the player whenever the skill shot is inputted into the game. So say you’re on Xerath, if you hit Q it would give you the most optimal chance to hit it based on the player you’re trying to attack’s movement. Which makes it borderline impossible to dodge. So I would assume for jinx it would optimize her attack moves while also allowing her to dodge most skill shots based on what the enemy players are inputting.
For the longest time I was unsure about it, like maybe they're just hyper twitchy. It wasn't until mid lane battles that I was almost 100% certain when the bot started dodging when the shots were clearly aimed at minions Jinx just happened to be lined up with. The best way to 100% tell with ezreal though is to back, wait to see Jinx farming a wave then ult from base. Most bots will literally not let them stand in the ults path regardless of how far away it is or sight of the ult itself. The player will even try to walk that way with rapid clicks and you will see teh character spazz out and spin in a circle a few times. Thats the sure fire tell.
14:18 most players would just not bother avoiding the Q if the enemy is only 2 autos away from dying. Jinx still prioritize to dodge. If you also paused it at the right moment, you would see jinx is already moving upwards as soon as he pressed q.
btw i wanted to ask(maybe somebody will find this comment and answer in sneaky's stead), have you considered guinsoo's after ER on EZ? It seems like it should be obvious in terms of efficiency. Just feel that crit is wasted on EZ...and ya know...that's a good chunk of change.. guinsoo's is not only efficient by itself, but it makes the crit on ER efficient as well. The phantom hit isn't totally useless either, I mean, they made it a lot better for ranged heroes in that regard anyways. Manamune has been nerfed way too much imo...looks like they wanted to make it more accessible, but now as a result, it's much worse on the main champs that used it before.
If you just look how shes hitting the wave with high attack speed its already really suspicous. Always perfectly moving after the exact frame she doesnt cancel the auto attack.
I read this comment before watching and went "Well I mean after awhile you kinda feel how your AS will adjust" then I saw how frame perfect every single auto was even when get excited randomly refreshed mid fight. I never realized just how gross Jinx looked on a scripter.
Ye so this is just wrong, sry. She's obviously dodge scripting but I'm doubtful if she has kite scripts, consistently she missed times where her auto was ready. Many times where she auto'd at like a 2.1 speed when she had lethal + passive. Source: am kogmaw main
Honestly even before all the aimed Q’s to the right, Sneaky was mainly aiming right anyways. The main tell-tell sign was 19:54 when he took just one step to dodge the sleep then stopped and W Jana instantly. Unless you have a way to know the exact range or size of a skill shot, you don’t dodge them by just 1 step or frame, you would have your character clear of it by a good margin.
Most of the times scripts work with the change of animations of the player models. So in like 90% of the cases you are able to dodge things, because the script detects the specific animation for the spell almost every time at the very first frame of the animation. And you can also have a Keybind to toggle the script on/off most of the times, like something on the numpad, which isn't really used in most of the games.
Yeah I agree with you at the end. Jinx was reacting to Ezreal's Q animation end*. You can notice Jinx moves right after the Q comes out, and sometimes before it does
You don't actually play the game regardless of what champion you play, since the program takes the most efficient path for you to instantly dodge every skill shot automatically, scripters are surprised by the script's movements, some scripts make you orb walk perfectly completely negating all gameplay besides moving from base.
The sad part is that the jinx will not get banned because rito does not care about scripters. Even if you contact them personally they will not do anything.
I've used enough RS bots to be able to tell you; The bot won't respond in a fixed way to skillshots, it's determined by the direction of the skillshot and will dodge in whichever direction will offer the highest probability of actually dodging. Also it's dead giveaway when you see how she 1v2'd Sneaky + Janna.
This player actually just got banned by Riot, not sure if the ban is permanent or not but someone broke down games where it was obvious he was scripting by how he reacts to when another player just presses a skill. Sad it took all the way to challenger to get it banned kekw.
Biggest tip off is he NEVER dodged the tornado if it wasn’t going to hit him. Didn’t even try to dodge the tornado as it was charging. Just knew “not gonna hit me”
Sneaky: Has to play against a Scripter as Ezreal Renekton: Constant flame pings Edit: Watched the rest of the game and I only have one thing to say; Renekton players XD
Honestly kudos to this Fizz for seeing that Jinx is scripting and being like 'Well. Guess I just have to point and click harder."
"script THIS you fucking casual"
I mean what more can you do when Riot can’t seem to ban them quick enough.
As a Fizz main all I have to say is "You're God damn right."
@@brunop.8745 fucking dead 💀
@@thomasway0320 tbh riot a lot of stuff sub-optimally but banning scripters is not one of them. sneaky has been a pro at the game for 8 years and never faced a scripter until this jinx, and i've been playing the game 5 years and only faced one. afaik they ban in waves but they do a pretty good job at keeping the game clean compared to any other game i've played.
Obligatory, "He just has a good gaming chair" comment.
8 years old, pumped with Adderall, built different. Definitely not a robut.
He just has a good gaming char
"Chill! Sometimes your opponent is just having a very good time!"
Classic
what's the joke?
@@qujo123 www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sick%20Gaming%20Chair
originated in osu i think
It’s clear just by watching how the movement is perfectly 90degrees perpendicular to all the skill shots as soon as they leave. It’s not even humanly possible to tell the direction yet but the enemy is already moving perfectly sideways.
I am fairly confident that ez q is simply too hard to reliably dodge unless at max range. Put any legitimate player well within ez q range and tell them to dodge 20 bronze ez qs. Its just impossible.
This. The exact moment you press the skill and the game registers it, even right before it comes out they are already side stepping.
You also noticed around I think 9-10 minutes in after Sneaky realizes he's scripting and clals him bad ROLF, and then the Jinx come sback ot lane...she's inside of her minion wave walking down, Sneaky throws an Ezreal Q at the front of the wave while she's inside of wave, AND SHE STILL DODGES.
@@luckylukas2282 hell you can tell at the very beginning jinx is dodging the q when he's behind the casters
yep just freeze frame every time sneaky shoots a q and there is immediate reaction perfectly perpendicular by jinx. literally every single time. even, as sneaky and others point out, in situations in which the q cannot hit, and no normal high elo player would dodge. this footage totally has the guy dead to rights 100% here. not that riot is gonna ban him or anything lol.
i think he has the HyperX FURY Ultra - Gaming Mouse Pad, that would explain his insane dodge skills
Good call on that one, I picked it up when you posted and I'm already challenger II
For sure, and I believe these mousepads are on sale on Amazon for 18% off right now.
I have a self cooling hand moisturising mouse pad and im rank 1 every server!
The dodges made it sus, but the fact that he kept perfect aa cancels with jinx's variable attack speed is a dead giveaway. No human can do that stuff
When he auto w auto cancelled to get the bot 1v2 kill on 2 targets on opposite sides...
The way that this guy switches the gun so smoothly makes it really suspect
His 2v1 Bot after the Janna flash R and right before with the dodges after sneaky E'd in was the most obvious points for me. This was the genuine first I have seen a video like this that I actually really could tell tbh
I disagree, him dodging like that is a dead giveaway. No human dodges perpendicular from the skill at the same exact angle from the skill every time to perfectly break any chance of it hitting them, as soon as the skill is casted, before the animation of where it's headed visually even begins.
Humans dodge differently depending on where their mouse is positioned and attention is focused. This is true for everyone. Not even the best in the world can dodge a perfect Ezreal q with boots 2 movespeed, because if it's shot at the perfect angle to the champion it literally can't miss unless you move perfectly perpendicular from the beginning 1/4 of it's cast.
His auto attacks in general seem perfectly fine, his switching of the gun when in range is something most Jinx mains with a lot of practice can do and there are plenty of people humanly capable of handling AA cancelling/ orb walking at variable AS on Jinx to an insane degree. What isn't humanly possible is his W locking onto people's position from a screen away, instantly with no line-up, off cooldown, and only casting perfectly in-between auto animations while doing so. Also of course, the aforementioned dodging is not possible consistently either.
@@jakemurray4346 what are you disagreeing with? Lol
spams 200 abilities to test jinx scripts - "i'm actually out of mana"
#worth
That fuckup probably lost them the game too lmao gj sneaks
@@Natibe_ I'm sure the scripting lost them the game bro
yo but that wombo combo KEKW
There are settings for this :))
that happened like 2 days ago and the account is still active, they are still playing games on it.
Edit: I just noticed that he was playing ranked games only,
the moment he went up against sneaky and this happened he stopped playing ranked and started playing normal games for like 2 days.
Now he started playing ranked again.
maybe got a penalty?
@@urbanlegendbb i doubt it, i don’t think riot bans people from Qing ranked. i’m not sure if they have done that at any point. i think they realised they played against someone with a platform and did something that puts their account out of the way of being banned
@@urbanlegendbb Nah, the only penalty for scripting is a perma ban. Must be something to keep him off the radar
Riot bans players for using text, which can be muted or not read. They don't care about the competitive integrity of their game or people that actively ruin matches. Scripting, inting, wintrading take much more to punish generally.
sus
Fizz's "o no" reaction to the scripts because he knows he can pretty much just kill jinx whenever is actually hilarious.
OH NO! anyway
its a shame jinx had alistar, galio, and gragas protection lmao
hahahahah
Once he starts fighting anyone other than Jinx he didn’t miss a single skill shot
Well that's incorrect he missed 3 on Ali in a row
@@Lobsinus oh shit my b I’ll be more perceptive next time thanks for catching that
@@samjohnston5877 hahaha
@@Lobsinus Sure but he was consistent with his skillshots except for Jinx. Disgusting trash cheater.
@@Lobsinus yeah BUT missing ONLY three as ezreal in a grandmaster game? Shows how good he is and how obvious scripting is.
17:33 the only time jinx actually gets hit outside of w animation is when she doesn't have vision, script is 100% just looking for the skillshot animations
not to act like I know what script was in use here, but the skill-shot based scripts i've seen (from scripter pov) don't need vision to function. It basically uses overlays to outline "threat zones" for skillshots as soon as the server registers the input.
Like Ez ult will shows a red path across the entire map as soon as he presses R before the animation even charges up or a projectile comes out --- the "threat zone" or "kill zone" is displayed to the scripter as an overlay. The actual dodging was done manually but when you see "threat zones" before they are even shot ...it makes manually side stepping extremely easy and removes 100% of the guesswork of "maybe i can dodge this" ...you always know you can dodge it or not via these advanced "tells"
but yeah, i saw that one time she didnt dodge an ezreal Q as it went over a bush where there was presumably no vision --- but her team was also pushing with alistar in front of her so it's very conceivable she just face tanked the Q to push the tempo...jinx wasn't in danger if she ate that Q.
@@_FirstLast_ they aren't toggling it off and on I think, look at tower dive at 4:55 she could've just tanked W Q and auto'd him once but scripts didn't let her. So it is vision based, it's looking for the champion windup animations, if can't see champ can't dodge.
@@virno69420 I mean ok but honestly, from a programming stand point ....you don't "look" for animations given by line of sight -- you just listen to the server feed and "see" that a shot has been fired from the dark and is headed at you, and you dodge it. There's no need for vision.
The client uses "vision" as a universal handicap and hides the fact that the client knows ezreal is there, unseen, and using Q. Game clients generally only show you 5% of the game data in your UI. The vast majority is behind the scenes, but none the less fully known by the client.
Also, that clip at 4:55 the jinx would have died to tower shots/autos if she committed to the kill -- that's not a script preventing her from doing anything -- if it was scripted she was actually closer to exiting tower range by running to the right instead of left. But she would take auto damage and trade 1 for 1 for sure. Running left and leaving the kill is just an intelligent move that had nothing to do with any assumed script.
@@_FirstLast_ @First Last maphacks aren't a thing for a reason, your client doesn't receive info from the server actively to the enemy position while they're in fog unless they proc certain things such as an item or any udyr ability. I know this because I used to personally develop scripts. There is no easily accessible output of this "server feed" you're talking out of your ass mate. Also the argument over 4:55 is precisely that the dodge script isn't considering her being under enemy tower or tower range at all and thus, the scripts in order to dodge the ezreal skillshots took the most inefficient route to escape tower range ruining the dive. Also, you really don't believe ezreal dies from a si glue auto and the 75%hp jinx with passive movespeed just walks out of tower range? Are you really that bad?
@@virno69420 Not sure how your panties got that far up your crack, but I started this entire post with a disclaimer that I don't know what (if any) hack is used by this jinx. I'm just explaining how other hacks I've seen and written operate.
Still, you looking for a "reason" for her movement to fit what you already believe in your head (that she's scripting) doesn't explain that just walking out of tower aggro is the better play that a human doesn't need a script to execute.
Actually, I do believe a 60 hp Ezreal dies to a single Jinx auto (could be wrong, and I'm not afraid to be wrong or admit it). It would be close with 78ad on Jinx and 33 armor on Ezreal ...but it just makes more sense to walk out and press W regardless
And yeah, I think it's pretty easy to see that jinx dies if she walks up to auto ezreal after dodging the skill-shots, even with her passive boost. The tower will still hit her an extra time ...that would easily explain why she just casually walked out of tower range to drop aggro and then wait to kill ezreal with her W. Sneaky even acknowledge this by saying, "I'm actually so dead". That's just an intelligent play, scripted or not.
You aren't the only person to ever write scripts, and assuming you actually have written scripts ...you realize each and every script is as unique as the author and the client it's modifying. You know exactly what I'm talking about with "server feed" if you have any idea at all about scripting/coding. That's not "out of my ass", that's hacking 101. That's basic shit, dude.
Dude when you kept shooting right and the perfect left dodges every time was hilarious
On your right.
I lost my mind when Jinx started to dodge even when she's behind the minions lmfao
@@amadeux5471 Yeah exactly, same here. I was a bit skeptical but thought maybe it's just a solo queue pop off game but then when both bot lanes were mid and she was auto dodging his q's even though he shot them at minions and she was behind them it's such a dead giveaway.
After that he does (whether intentional or not he throws one to the left) and even after ALL of those to the right training her brain she dodges right like come on.
BRUHHH that janna has perfect eyes, 1 of the good ways u have to see if someone is scripting is when they use certain "chains" of skills, 11:07 u can see the scripts perfectly in action there wasnt even 0.1 sec of animation on that shit
The fucking, auto run back and e towards ezreal is nearly fucking impossible for a human, good eye ricardo
I can't tell how many times i misplaces my E as jinx when I tried to do shit like that
how does her e come out faster with scripts? they just popped out of her so quick
@@poopsyman As for i understand, scripts in short term, remove most of the animations trying to reduce the response time, thats why u can see clearly scripts with certain skills, in this case, jinx traps cant be animation cancel atleast not like that
@@ricardosousa1436 Yeee, same for xerath with scritps. Played like hour ago, fizz vs xerath, that was impossible to lane against...
Sneaky is the chilliest and pro player ever. He legit never gets too mad or too excited at the game, except when its a bug or something outside of the game. whenever one of those happens, he gets so mad.
Exactly. Sneaky is the type of person to stfu unless he is basically certain. He even questions himself more than most would.
Ye I would've prob afk'd
Just like he flamed IgNar after making a dumb TP bot? Yea very chill guy.
What gave it away the most is the fact that, if you look at it closely, he's reacting not to the skillshot flying at him, but actually to the CAST ANIMATION -- that makes it look like none of the skillshots were going to hit in the first place, because he dodges them BEFORE they actually fire
Well technically people react to the cast animation as well not only on the skillshot. Every skill has a “cast time” if you are aware of the cast animation of the character you can react even more quickly. Even melee champs has cast animations. The sus part was how quickly anf how perfect the jinx was able to dodge everything. It felt like as sneaky pressed W the scripts already starts dodging. There were cases were even if sneakys q was going to hit a minnion the jinx would still dodge away from it’s path.
@@ojouniisama5401 What he means is that whenever you cast an ability since the beginning of the animation it already has a direction and thats when the scripter activates even before you and can see the actual skill shot and with that see the direction
@@XDiretlanX yeah I know but the way he said made it seem like reacting to cast animations is impossible when almost every league player does it.
@@ojouniisama5401 well yeah, you can react to the animation too, but I don't think it's humanly possible to precisely establish the direction of the skillshot at that point, so you can't really 'reactively dodge', but rather 'try to predict and evade' (kinda what Sneaky said in the end)
LOL look at 9:15 . Jinx clearly trying to follow the Janna but the script won't let it path that way so it flips between forward and back so fast xD
true hahaha
It's pretty dang obvious through out the whole video, but I think that moment takes the cake.
Just thinking of the logistics that would be involved if a person's hand was doing that is hilarious.
great catch
My best friend can do that and he’s low diamond.
@@morpheusg4154 stfu. Your friend, when chasing, will smell where a tornado is coming from, run back and forth on the spot as a bm, and then suddenly flash late?
You can see him fighting the scripts while it tries to protect him. That's why he flashed after dodged away, why not flash instantly? Because he didn't know he was going to dodge.
u can tell because jinx reacts/adjusts movement when ezreal lifts his arm up to throw a skillshot
Wow, you stated exactly what he said in the video. Very good comment.
@@guthix560 i commented while i was watching but thanks
@sen people who play with scripts are garbage without them. End of conversation.
@sen lmao I have a life. Clearly you don't considering you're defending blatant cheaters. You and your buddy will get banned eventually
I love how Sneaky just experiments on Jinx instead of trying to actually hit skillshots.
The worst thing is, besides Sneaky having Ezreal versus a scripter, the enemy team is also a front-to-back comp that is supposed to peel for Jinx, which makes the script even more... Useful? Efficient? I don't know the right word.
You said it right. This is the perfect game for a scrpter (or decent adc).
effective
OBNOXIOUS is the correct word here
Ideal
what made it clear that he was cheating was how he was reacting to Janna's Q. He either moved the moment Janna started a Q towards him, not after it started moving, or he stayed still if the Q wasnt aimed at him
Dude would never even flinch if the skillshot wasnt heading directly to him
Actually he Moved to dodge a few q even when he was behind minions, that was a stronger tell in my opinion.
He would dodge everything. Weren't you paying attention when Sneaky was mid lane? He threw so many obvious misses to the right of the guy and he ALWAYS would sidestep to the left
The scripter in this video has a habit of leaving the dodge script or something on. 6:19 to 6:22 and 6:34 to 6:38.
The tower dive by Jinx made me believe it's a scripter before I posted.
It actually depends.. at the moment of the throw jinx instantly reacts to the opposite side. But when the skill is coming into her, as close as it might pass by her, if it's not actually going to hit her she just zaps or aa back instantly.
@@Expllosaoriginal Sneaky didn't miss to the right. He was just aiming to the right half of his hitbox to make it so Jinx can ONLY avoid the skillshot by going left. If he tries to dodge right he would still get hit.
It's obvious, but the funniest moment for me was when Jinx cleared a ward and ran perfect circles in between attacks like "Yeah, that is normal behaviour"
timestamp?
@@ganondorc8546 10:55
@Sean~ do you know who he gets those scripts from? I could make the same but for cheaper
Every Q he landed Jinx was either in W cast time, trapped against a wall, or Sneaky was out of vision. She actually reacts during the cast time to dodge it, before anyone could possibly tell which direction the skillshot is going. Idk how riot can't tell when a 90degree movement happens at the same time as a skillshot is cast, but scripters never last long before they get banned.
He had so much faith in his scripts he didnt even stop auto attacking to dodge.
Last time I saw an actual scripter in game was around 2014, definitely not looking back for the return of those lmao
Scripters are still a thing in Garena's SEA servers
@@thefurrydevil6211 Never seen a scripter since I started playing in 2015. Maybe some suspicions sometimes but not something as blatant as that. I don't think scripters are as often as you describe.
The two I ever remember playing against was a Xerath and a Yasuo. The movements and windwalls were insane on the Yasuo and the Xerath hit literally ever abilities. The Xerath ults were painful
Can't wait to hear Sneaky telling Doublelift and Meteos about this on the Holy Trinity Co-stream tomorrow.
I think they talked about it last week since the uploads are delayed. Meteos was memeing him lol 😆
@@PynkCoffee no, this stream was from yesterday
@@PynkCoffee Hmm...I don't recall them mentioning it. But maybe...
Me either pogchamp.
@@PynkCoffee it says footage from March 31 so unlikely
20:27
Lilia to Ezreal : "Oh are you new?" oh boy if only you knew...
@15:32 q hits when line of sight blocked by tower
@17:32 q hits when jinx had no vision, no dodge reaction
@17:50 again, q only hits when jinx has no vision, and no script dodge reaction.
Every Q within line of sight was dodged, the only Q’s that connected were interrupted line of sight
A tell-tale sign of a scripter is if they ever juke in little circles, you can see her do it a few times. Humans do not juke in circles like that because it is very inefficient to do with a mouse, but for a program it is ideal
"Juke in little circles" this is useless info for helping someone determine if they're scripting
@@virno69420 The Jinx cleared a ward running in small perfect circles between attacks, what is obviously something no human would ever do.
@@GameBreaker1055 turn on the predict movement settings, it's quite easy to go in circles then mate
@@GameBreaker1055 I think you're confused
@@virno69420 The movement predict settings do not allow you move in circles of like 5 units radius in between basic attacks.
The longer I watched, the more I noticed how perfectly clipped every singe auto was, like it was only playing a fifth of the animation. So weird to watch
In BR servers we have 3 scripters in highelo they are known by our community, but riot doenst do shit about that....
The most played champions are Kog, Ashe, Jinx, Ezreal and xerath...
@@Luizhmc drop the nick. We should harrass riot until they at least notice the situation, the fact that they are a lot of high elo player in almost every server and kinda shameful.
qm
@@eduardopardo9629 Ye this guy and u are just wrong. There's barely any scripters and when they're found they're banned very quickly if they made it through the anticheat.
@@virno69420 u def havent played in br server before, i doubt anyone has gotten banned here for like a year, legit neglected by riot.
You was wondering what type of system that script uses, I have the answer.
The new LoL building softwares (such as BLITZ app) uses client/game log and process coding to read what is going on simultaneously. As soon as you pick a champion, it puts the champion build on the client for you.
The same can be done with the skills your opponent uses. You can program a reaction on the same time an opponent skill is used. When you hit Q on your keyboard, it is shown on the program process log "0.5 sec, show Q animation, X/Y coordinates, if it hits, show damage animation, etc etc". The script software can read that and then program a reaction for it instantaneously, exactly how BLITZ app does.
When fizz went bot and E'd and she took no dmg bc she was a milimeter away from fizz's E
Fizz e2 doesn't have a cast time so I don't think her script reacted fizz just missed
@@virno69420 it has an animation what are you talking about fizz e2 isnt instantaneous so you can script dodge it.
"Fizz just missed" the Jinx moved the perfect distance to avoid the area of his e, lol.
@@nhyar yes that can just happen sometimes, e2 has 0 cast time and is directional, most scripts just don't try to dodge it at all due to how weird of a skillshot it is to be programmed into an evade
@@virno69420 depends on the script, i have never use something like that, but i have seen a log of videos and some programmes doesn't just dodge the skill shot, they show you every misile and ability range and direction, so you can side step it.
The only dislike is from jinx
reminds me of when faker went up against a scripting karthus that would Q on command as soon as the enemy was in range and still dodged every almost every Q
link?
@@nijimuraokuyasu6448 leaving comment just in case a link gets dropped sometimes eventually
@@nijimuraokuyasu6448 I assume this one ua-cam.com/video/aWJdSVEfLU0/v-deo.html
@@uwootmviii8695 damn bro thanks fam
the dead giveaway was the clip with the flash janna ult back jesus christ was that disgusting movement, targeting.
Sneaky actually played a game with this guy on his team about a week ago, would love to see if sneaky has that replay to compare to..
I went back and watched some of the game that i referenced above, if you want to watch it yourself go sneaky’s twitch channel and the stream a week ago today around 3hours and 45 min in sneaky is playing ziggs with the same
jinx adc. In my not professional opinion at all around 18 minutes into the game i saw jinx dodging ss’s from out of vision and pinging a thresh hex flash out of vision as well..
@same Some stuff gets detected in Fog of War such as few empowered attacks or attacking mobs in the jungle and just some random stuff like that, you can also know every single spells the enemy cast from Fog of War such as Flash/Hex flash, some sorts of stuff make some champions in some specific cases completly visible from Fog of War
I wish this was like the end of one of those sports movies where we "see where they are now" and we saw jinx banished to the shadow realm
OutsiderPikaa: "Sorry, my guns have AI of their own!"
Since Sneaky is playing DBFZ now, I thought I might add this:
The concept of the "mental stack" from fighting games is a pretty good one to explain why dodging on reaction (especially in league, of all things) is literally inhuman.
Reacting to skillshots is possible on reaction in the situation where the player is ONLY looking for it. The more things you have to be aware of however, this adds to the 'mental stack.' The more things in the mental stack, the harder it is to react to things. This is typically used to explain how react-able mix-ups/grabs can hit people in fighting games. If a player has other options (overheads, lows, left-right, etc.) they have to worry about, the mental stack makes react-able things REALLY hard to react to, since you have so much to worry about.
Now imagine how much harder *dodging on reaction* is when you have 9 other champions in the game you have to keep track of, literally chimping out with all four of their abilities. So it's safe to say there's a crazy amount of fucking mental stack going on in this game-- which is why people dodge pre-emptively rather than by reaction... because good luck keeping track of 9 champions and their interactions, along with your own character/cooldowns/summs, all for the sake of dodging one skillshot from one person. DBFZ player "GO1" is considered a god for being able to react to anything, while being presented with 5-6 different things to worry about. Imagine how many options you have to consider in a league game, with 9 other players.
I just thought this was just a cool way to look at how fucking insane this Jinx's movement was. Also I'm a huge fucking nerd ayyyy
19:51 yeah just look at him dodging that lilia e and ezreal q just standing still and inmediatly throwing a w to janna
14:06 jinx was sus but this q from sneaky and with that instant sidestep while auto-attacking
I noticed this exact same one. No human is capable of this movement
Damn,. that a good example. Too bad Riot literally never punishes these players.
FYI : im a mobile moba player interested in playing league (still no gaming pc so it is just a dream atm lolz)
It is very confusing for me to understand how people see that as scripting until i realised that league player use their cursor to both aim skill and change the direction they walk. Beside the perfect 90 degree side step it looks like normal gameplay to my eyes.
@@Vincentl2189 wdym? Sneaky even said this was the first one he's ever seen, ever. Riot is incredibly good at catching these ppl.
@@virno69420 Here’s an exercise, watch this account and see how long it takes for him to get banned. I submitted a ticket with video evidence last year, never banned.
Scripter is still playing and has changed his summoner's name account to "LPL UZZI".
The account is so obviously boosted too, this guy was a Lulu one trick through 53 games of ranked, then suddenly played a bunch of random shit in Flex, plays a bunch of Veigar co-op games, and then is suddenly smurfing on people in Granmaster/Challenger as ADC despite having never seemingly played the role before
So, Sneaky mentions that this is the first time he has played against a scripter, but he also mentions that he never would have noticed if it weren't for the fact that he was playing Ezreal. It's probably safe to assume that he has actually faced scripters in the past, but simply didn't notice they were scripting because he wasn't playing a champion so reliant on skillshots. Really makes you think...
Love the fact someone else noticed that
The tell for me was the *instant* movement anytime a skillshot was fired. The W after 15:00 was out of vision and he started sidestepping the second it was fired, rather than narrowly missing by an actual reaction.
This is very wrong. The W was never going to hit and the script didn't attempt to dodge it at all. Many other examples of her getting hit from fog of war, the script can't dodge if they're out of vision. Also, missing narrowly consistently isn't what legitimate dodging is, you'd expect the script to only walk outside of the skillshot hitbox and not a pixel farther.
lmfao that crazy movement is literally the script competing with the player input
How does he get the Diablo audio when buying potion and a pinkward? 8:15. Is that after edit? I would love that so much.
24:02 the script makes jinx walk out of turret range and immediately stop when shes out.
Holy shit, but how informative are these added notes. You learn so many little quirks and details from them
Just wanted y’all to know that the scripter has been finally banned
A surprise to be sure but a welcome one
does cut down only work when the enemy has more base health or just aslong as they have more health than YOU?
25:06 the exact instant that he qs she walks up lmao
What made the scripting obvious to me is when (9:15) Jinx flashes toward Janna to kill her but the script goes nuh-uh-uh gotta kill the Ezreal first.
They aren't banned either, riot report system really needs to up its game.
The diablo potion sound effects when he bought the ones after the 1st back made me smile
how big of a problem is scripting? I have seen it maybe once on a Cass out of thousands and thousands of games. She is 1000% cheating, but Is it something that is really only seen in super high level play?
It's something that anyone below diamond likely won't have the knowledge to beat. Thus they typically end up high diamond or above, and most of the players they beat along the way won't even realize just how many things are being dodged frame-perfectly
Scripting basically is using AI to do movements for you in reaction to what the enemy does. So it takes no human skill to avoid/hit things they way it should be. one of the most common champions to see scripting on is xerath. (in my opinion) but ive only seen about 3 or 4 this year so far.
Cheating in general can come in many different forms but "scripting" itself I'd say is fairly common. You won't always notice it since it doesn't automatically mean the person using said scripts knows a single thing about the game or where to go. If you want to see more scripts play more ARAM and more normal games, that's where you find the majority of cheaters.
Cheating is sadly common and league doesn't do much about it. You will just have to accept it and move on, dont take the game seriously and play for fun. If it isn't a scripter, a griefer, or high elo player wanting to stomp out gold players for youtube vids it's a booster who can do all 3 and really wants to ruin someones league day. You can't even escape it on TFT sometimes. People cheat in tft!
It's not a serious competitive game
changed their name to LPL Uzzi btw, just to let everyone know.
actually got matched against Sneaky 2 days ago too and lost to the Senna match lmao
Jinx dodged every Janna nado and sneaky didn’t hit his 1st q on her until 13:22 lmaoo
Sneaky said it was because Jinx's locked in animation.
how did sneaky changed the sounds of his refillable potion and his trinket to diablo 2 sounds? 8:16
hes still not banned, but he panicked and played a bunch of normals after that game
Link? I couldn't find him on op.gg
Easy way to tell if an account was boosted or bought is to check it's history and look at what keys they use for summoner spells. This jinx's account has flash first summoner spell, but if you go back in the history far enough it suddenly switches to the other way around. I don't know about you, but people don't do that, it fucks with muscle memory. Some else is playing the account with Flash on F and this guy plays with flash on D. Could be a booster or the account seller or who knows.
This acc is def bought or hacked
The hack he's using probably has three presets. One for auto dodging, one for AA tracking and one to turn it off so he doesn't look sus. (His abilities are probably defaults to auto track just by using them.) You can tell every time his character model tracks onto a unit. At 17:32 when going to auto attack Sneaky he gets hit by ezreal q. He didn't even try to dodge it either. It's honestly gross and should definitely not be in the community.
@Sneaky you probably won't see this but the script I saw a video on years ago was like what you suggested. It isn't on all the time, you held a button. The thing is if i recall correctly the UI overlay showed everything. You can see drawn lines all over you screen for places you can't stand as skill shots are coming. So even if you aren't holding the "button" it's still telling you where you can stand. This jinx never stopped holding the "button"
they payed a kaisa game 18 hours ago and went 19/3/10 cant believe they are not banned yet
He didn't say anything offensive, so don't be surprised
The limit test with Ezreal against scripters (unless the bot has more in-depth know of the game) that I was expecting that Sneaky could try is to W/Q slightly to one side of the enemy hitbox to force a dodge to the opposite side and almost instantly aim with the other skillshot to the side the scripter is moving and see how the script react.
I remember hearing something that the best way to identify a scripter is to use normal cast and aim at the champion without using the skillshot... If the champion dodges without you using the skillshot, its a scripter
I dont think this works. That kind of input is only delivered to the server if the action is cast. The server sends the cast to the other players and the script probably registers this cast and automatically moves out of the trajectory.
I think this was definetely a scripter. These dodges were inhuman. If you dodge 80% of all skillshots aimed at you you are a good player.
Another test would be shooting from brush. If she actively dodges a shot she cannot see, that is a script.
Not true.
you heard a fake rumour then
You can see this happening at 13:47 I think
"He's so fucky.... He's so, CRAZY.... Imagine they made a bot that just fuckin raw-dogged you like this." -Sneaky
Also, you can tell that she moves with a "circle" around. She perfectly dodges until the skillshots are outside of that circle, then she continues what she was doing. It was true for every single skillshot thrown at her. You can see she is not always perfectly moving to the side, but "circling" around the skillshots.
So I’m not sure if sneaky will see this but I have watched a few videos on the more common kind of script because I got curious on it as well. It seems that, that particular script in the video would let you play pretty standardly while basically inputting movements for the player whenever the skill shot is inputted into the game. So say you’re on Xerath, if you hit Q it would give you the most optimal chance to hit it based on the player you’re trying to attack’s movement. Which makes it borderline impossible to dodge. So I would assume for jinx it would optimize her attack moves while also allowing her to dodge most skill shots based on what the enemy players are inputting.
The fizz asked Sneaky if he was new lmfao
For the longest time I was unsure about it, like maybe they're just hyper twitchy. It wasn't until mid lane battles that I was almost 100% certain when the bot started dodging when the shots were clearly aimed at minions Jinx just happened to be lined up with. The best way to 100% tell with ezreal though is to back, wait to see Jinx farming a wave then ult from base. Most bots will literally not let them stand in the ults path regardless of how far away it is or sight of the ult itself. The player will even try to walk that way with rapid clicks and you will see teh character spazz out and spin in a circle a few times. Thats the sure fire tell.
It's Hilariously ironic you're named sentientAi vs a scripter bot :P
14:18 most players would just not bother avoiding the Q if the enemy is only 2 autos away from dying. Jinx still prioritize to dodge. If you also paused it at the right moment, you would see jinx is already moving upwards as soon as he pressed q.
If you can't attack, move, E in the opposite direction and use Word.exe at the same time are you really a Jinx main?
btw i wanted to ask(maybe somebody will find this comment and answer in sneaky's stead), have you considered guinsoo's after ER on EZ? It seems like it should be obvious in terms of efficiency. Just feel that crit is wasted on EZ...and ya know...that's a good chunk of change.. guinsoo's is not only efficient by itself, but it makes the crit on ER efficient as well. The phantom hit isn't totally useless either, I mean, they made it a lot better for ranged heroes in that regard anyways. Manamune has been nerfed way too much imo...looks like they wanted to make it more accessible, but now as a result, it's much worse on the main champs that used it before.
If you just look how shes hitting the wave with high attack speed its already really suspicous. Always perfectly moving after the exact frame she doesnt cancel the auto attack.
Also in SG skin which is known to feel clunky, yet here its very smooth.
I read this comment before watching and went "Well I mean after awhile you kinda feel how your AS will adjust" then I saw how frame perfect every single auto was even when get excited randomly refreshed mid fight. I never realized just how gross Jinx looked on a scripter.
Ye so this is just wrong, sry. She's obviously dodge scripting but I'm doubtful if she has kite scripts, consistently she missed times where her auto was ready. Many times where she auto'd at like a 2.1 speed when she had lethal + passive. Source: am kogmaw main
@@virno69420 did you actually watch her move at all??
@@ensiemen9836 yes have you ever seen a kiting scripts? Because this ain't it
Honestly even before all the aimed Q’s to the right, Sneaky was mainly aiming right anyways. The main tell-tell sign was 19:54 when he took just one step to dodge the sleep then stopped and W Jana instantly. Unless you have a way to know the exact range or size of a skill shot, you don’t dodge them by just 1 step or frame, you would have your character clear of it by a good margin.
5:46 lol what is that potion buying sound :D
love your D2 sounds, will you have D2 content with the new remake?
Sneaky is just so wholesome reporting scripters UwU
Most of the times scripts work with the change of animations of the player models. So in like 90% of the cases you are able to dodge things, because the script detects the specific animation for the spell almost every time at the very first frame of the animation. And you can also have a Keybind to toggle the script on/off most of the times, like something on the numpad, which isn't really used in most of the games.
I knew this would be coming
Yeah I agree with you at the end. Jinx was reacting to Ezreal's Q animation end*. You can notice Jinx moves right after the Q comes out, and sometimes before it does
Scripting on a right click only champ is embarrassing tbh. Are you even playing league at that point or just watching an ai’s stream?
You don't actually play the game regardless of what champion you play, since the program takes the most efficient path for you to instantly dodge every skill shot automatically, scripters are surprised by the script's movements, some scripts make you orb walk perfectly completely negating all gameplay besides moving from base.
how is this persons account still up? its 4/4/21 and his account is in a game right now. pls rito
the last time i saw a scripter was a qtpie video that came out years ago
I was in doubt till I saw the perfect target changing based on range and visibility to the point it was changing every other auto
Fizz be like:
Dodge this.
14:57 That's a good way to test it too. Keep slightly missing to the side and check if it dodges to the opposite side every time.
The sad part is that the jinx will not get banned because rito does not care about scripters. Even if you contact them personally they will not do anything.
false as shit
Still not banned btw, played a game 13 mins ago. Judging by the scores they're putting up they seem to have toggled off.
7:55 sneaky realising his suspicion was right 😂
I've used enough RS bots to be able to tell you;
The bot won't respond in a fixed way to skillshots, it's determined by the direction of the skillshot and will dodge in whichever direction will offer the highest probability of actually dodging.
Also it's dead giveaway when you see how she 1v2'd Sneaky + Janna.
Tbh I didn't look at the title and thought that Sneaky was trolling every Q 😂
just watching sneaky's face as he misses all his abilities throughout the game as he comes to the realization is just golden
This player actually just got banned by Riot, not sure if the ban is permanent or not but someone broke down games where it was obvious he was scripting by how he reacts to when another player just presses a skill. Sad it took all the way to challenger to get it banned kekw.
9:15 he flashes forward, Ws the janna heals and then autos the person in the opposite direction all at the same time. wow. truly.... Sentient AI XD
Jinx didn't script. The jerky dodging movement are from the player's Parkinson syndrome
Biggest tip off is he NEVER dodged the tornado if it wasn’t going to hit him. Didn’t even try to dodge the tornado as it was charging. Just knew “not gonna hit me”
Sneaky: Has to play against a Scripter as Ezreal
Renekton: Constant flame pings
Edit: Watched the rest of the game and I only have one thing to say; Renekton players XD
"have never seen a scripter before" "Oh are you new?" .... its snacky