History Tells Us that India’s Future is Best Secured by Embracing Its Many Diversities
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
- Jairam Ramesh, Congress MP and head of its Communications department in an unusual session with host Kapil Sibal discusses India’s history, the role of Congress and other stalwarts in securing freedom from the British and the many lessons our history holds for our future. #centralhall
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Thank you Kapilji and Jairamji for this lesson in history. Proud to be an Indian with such August Leaders. Since 2014 we fell cheated of our national pride.
We have been all along cheated by this fake and fraud certificate holder.
@@shantanudutta1539 Game is over...... Truth and Time is the Tallest.... 🌹
Monotheist talking and praising and asking for diversity is sheer hypocrisy and double speak!!
Enjoyed listening to this conversation.
Very interesting ❤❤
Jairamji and Kapilji have rightly mentioned the scientific temperament of Nehuruji which is essential for a country which desires to be a developed country. Obviously this requires high level of education.
like manmohan level education..that supervised 1.7lakh crore scams...lol
A great service you are doing Sibal Saab in your various conversations, in Dil Se of Wire, with the people that matter.. May you live and healthy.
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Kapilji is really performing a great duty to this country. Heartfelt thanks.
since when did...cham,,ch aa,, giri,,....become great duty...lol
most bbengali suffered from one particular ddisease known as llibrandu-giri.
Guest speakers mic needs to be adjusted. They can hardly be heard. Its been the same in many of CentralHall programmes, e.g. Derek O'Brien
Absolutely.
This discussion should have come as a white paper or supplementary to INC Nyay Patra Election Manifesto, because if Pandit Nehru ji and Members of the Ministry/ Cabinet had not laid the foundations of Independent India, there would been very little progress and development today, to boast of today. Once the foundations are in place, only then can superstructures be built. But Modi ji and the Party want to live in denial of the same and want the nation to believe that development & growth took place only after 2014 ! How mistaken & prejudiced one can be.
He can make anyone sick. Phase after phase, vote them out.
I appreciate the Wire channel for such a great congratulations
indians needs more talks like this because the new generation needs to know the truth
Nice conversation, but some times inbetween voice is not audible, may be some technical error....
Listening knowledgeable person give us to much.thank you sir.
आज बहुत सारी नयी और सराहनीय जानकारी पहली बार मिली नेहरू जी के बारे में, कॉंग्रेस क्यूँ नहीं शोर कर कर के बताती भारत के युवाओं को, बहुत जरूरी है देश के प्रगति, एकता और अखण्डता के लिए
Very insightful 👏🌟✨
Good and peaceful discussion...
Why is it that people who actually are good are bad at marketing? I have always seen this! It does harm us in the end!
J.Nehruji what he did for the country no one can deny that.His book “Discovery of India” tells about the struggle for the achievement of independence.History cannot be denied.
Wah. Bravo. Illuminating. Relaxful. Soothing. Soulful🎵. Good wishes💐 to Everyone✨
ghanta.
@@urrasscal8380 correct country name is 🇬🇭Ghana. Blessings🙏
@@RajinderSingh-mj6xc ghanta kha jaa k ..
Jayaram Ramesh has been a terrific think tank for INC who has been instrumental in mentoring Rahul Gandhi and i reckon perhaps been the major contributor for the concoction of the Bharat Jodo Yatra of R.G. He has been the actual Dronacharya and a true loyalist of the Gandhi Parivar. Kudos for his achievement as his strategies have started to shape up and show great colours for the image of R.G and INC as a whole.
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Those who love to bash Nehru Gandhi and try to make Ambedker look greater than them must read history properly. Ambedkar was British supporter while Nehru Gandhi have been true freedom fighters . They were immensely popular among masses including all sections of the Indian society. Not only that They were reforming society from within be it casteism, ,communalism, gender discrimination or farmers or Tribal rights. Read Nehruji works one would wonder the comprehensiveness of his thougts and area of actions. Gandhi ji did not preach equality. He lived it..which so called upper caste leader think of cleaning public toilets , learn shoe making , live with untouchables?
For non Congress leaders it is a tool to use ambedker against Nehru Gandhi. Shame today's so Called dalits don't include Gandhi Nehru as their own leaders . It's just a dirty politics
ambedkar Did more for poor of this country, meanwhile nehru gandhi were both casteist at it's best. Ambedkar fought for dalits, He worked for dalits alone, cause gandhi didn't cared about dalits at all. Nehru and Gandhi were both brahmins, for them problems of dalits were not real. Ambedkar worked with King shahu and others to uplift dalits from shackles of untouchability. He fought for the rights of dalits, cause no one else was
@@marathiboi96 Ambedkar did nothing greater than Gandhi Nehru or the Congress leaders. Was stooge of British . It was magnanimity of the Congress he got seat in the first govt before 1950 and it was special recommendation by Gandhi ji he got opportunity to be part of constituent assembly. He never supported the idea of constituent assembly intact.
Gandhi Nehru worked more for schedule castes than Ambedker. In his life he did not even win seats in regions with SC communities in majority. SCs preferred Gandhi Nehru and Congress pre and after independence. It was America British sponsored movement in the name of Ambedker Of 70s 80s and 90s that made him a hero and carved out separate vote bank of dalits. Nothing great has come out of this movement except more bitterness and separatist feelings among communities. India is suffering because of separatist ideas of Ambedker. He was a scholar and indeed a capable legal expert. But that is all. He was chairman of draft committee of constitution. Since 90s to apease SC and other back word voters he has been projected as the only man who made constitution. 299 people made our constitution. The idea which he opposed completely
@@marathiboi96 support to Gandhi ji 's ashram was taken away because he invited a harijan family to live in the ashram. Gandhi ji was under tremendous pressure yet never relented to castiest forces. Vikram Sarabhai 's father gave aid to run the ashram then. Gandhi ji used to clean common toilets, nalis not just of ashram but of villages. He used to live among SCs. He tried to learn crafts like shoe making. He was attacked by so called high casts for not following casteism. He died not because of Pakistan or hindu mulsim but his reformed ideas of Hinduism that contradicted fundamentalists of Hinduism. What did Ambedker do ? He left Hinduism accusing them in every way. Gandhi ji lived and died for the principle of equality and oneness of humanity while Ambedkar kept spewing venom against all swarns with zero regard or gratitude to swarn people who helped him in his life journey. He kept talking of separate states / villages / corridors for SCs . Never served the freedom fighters 's cause. His followers carry his bitterness and opportunism. Mayavati is biggest example of a misguided generation he fostered by his works. What good has she brought to SCs or Indians in general? Zero contribution to development of UP or India. Playing victim card is easy and favourite task of Ambedkarites. They have helped sanghis to capture power. Just like ambdker used to help british his heirs are helping sanghis .
@@gandhibhagat285 ahhh a gandhi glorifying gandhi, Can't help but notice some caste bias, also, nehru and his daughter were in power for 30 strong years combined, How much did they took radical steps for uplifting the Poor. If it wasn't for ambedkar, Sc-st wouldn't even have allowed to step foot in goverment services. Nehru served more to his upper caste pals than poor. For example, gandhi nehru had power for almost 50 years post independence, but still India has rural areas which are just as backwards as They were in 1960s. Ambedkar left Hinduism cause he and his followers were not treated equally. Gandhi was a uncle tom, a coward more than anything, who sided with Muslims rather than Sc-st. It was Ambedkar's constitution that assured everyone gets equal rights, Otherwise congress literally allowed muslims have their personal laws
@@marathiboi96 😄 ok sanghi troll . Finally you have shown your true face . Read up history. Ambdker was anti Congress and sided with Jinnah and muslims before independence just like sanghis made govts with Jinnah. These hindu Muslim fundamentalists plus Ambedker were all allies of British, anti Congress and anti national movement. Sanghis call Gandhi ji A coward and call defame Nehru Indira just like your post says . I have told many instances of Gandhi ji working for SCs cause but u failed to outline even one of ambdker he did for every section except constitution making. You are ignoring contribution of 298 others who made constitution. You don't want to accept that it was Nehru and Gandhi and patel who gave chance to ambdker to be part of constitution. What ambdker could have done being alone while Congress led by Nehru in majority? It was everybody's contribution that SCs got equal rights and reservation. Indira and Nehru made sure constitution is followed in newly established nation that Ambedker always said is a fake nation. Btw Mandal commission was constituted under Indira Gandhi ji 's rule. The schools colleges institutions opened by Nehru Indira gave rise to middle class (of which u r part of) of dalits ,OBCs that is doing ingratitude to them today. U r jumlemdra bhakt you will not see a truth . Pity .sanghis have always been anti reservation. In 90s youth burned and died in bloody anti reservation riots. Kamandal politics of sanghis came in competition to mandal politics. Anyways u r fed on anti Congress diet by sanghis u will never open eyes so goodbye
Your effort is commendable. But if you start giving us graphics also, the impact of your effort will multiply.
Too Good 💎 Thank you
We lost our freedom in 2014. Now have to struggle for it all over again.
Pandit was great. No alternate
Thanks to Kapil Saibal ji the nation and especially the younger generation is being given a window to look at how the Nation became a Modern Independent Republic , thanks to the foresight of Pandit Nehru ji and like minded leaders in politics, and leaders in every field that helped to build modern India of today which we are beneficiaries of. For a moment if we close our eyes and imagine if these were not there then what sort of a Nation we would be today ? I shudder to think!
Such discussions especially this particular one should have taken place much earlier but as the adage goes: " better late than never " ! Jai Hind.
A really enlightening discussion.
I request Karan Ramesh to write a book on Jawaharlal Nehru
Bring out the colourful side of charcha Nehru
and his kayar side as he did not do population xchange after ppartition as majority ( more then 90%) of mmosslim in iindia voted for paapistan.
One of the main reasons for BJP to target Nehru & not Indira Gandhi is that our country faced a defeat in 1962 war against China during Nehru 's regime whereas during Indira Gandhi period India gave a crushing defeat to Pakistan. So it's easy for BJP to target Nehru but not Indira. But Congress too should learn to accept it's failures also openly. In this discussion also Jairam Ramesh avoided to take reference to China war. If Congress 's new leadership builds up the courage to accept its two blots - China war & Emergency then it can blunt all other attacks on it very easily or rather put BJP on backfoot on almost all their allegations.
exactly... one must be able to accept praise and criticism. Accept your defeat especially when winning or losing a war depends on so many factors.
Nahru ji only not leader of congress. He thinks like India is my family members. Do always works like any grate leader.
living in a kkufar country is hharram in iislamb -- kkuran 4.97
Good
nehru = khabari for britiish..gave location..got chandrasekhar azad killed...
Like you say Bharat began since 1947.This is new young Bharat and no need for the old outdated people.
Amazing ❤
70 ,बरस तो यही इतिहास सीखाया जाता है कि केवल इतके कारण आझादी मिली है.बाकी स्वातंत्र्यवीरोंका नाम तो मिटायाही. तो अभी समय आया है इन मिटाये वीरोंको पहचानने की.कपिल सिब्बल इतके बारे मे जानकारी दे.
Great discussion...thank u sibbal saab...
Keep it in English, please.
Thank you Kapil Ji
Forget Nehri Ji, you cannot find one person in BJP who can match the qualification and accomplishments of Jayaram Ji.
In the event of INDIA Alliance come to power on June 4th, the first decision should be taken is to investigate ON FAKE DEGREE CERTIFICATE. What if it is found that thery are, indeed, fake certificate? Request Kapil Ji, please let people know what would be the repercussions / consequences. Not just within India, the entire (not political science) world will laugh at us. It would be a Century's shame for India.
Our yougsters seeking opportunities abroad will be seen with suspicion.
What a desgrace.
Thank you Kapil Sibal for this enlightening series of discussion. It's a tragedy that learned people like Jairam Ramesh should be in opposition these past 10 years while our democracy has been tranquilized with lies and hateful propaganda of the BJP.
Just wish that every patriotic Indian takes time to educate themselves on their history so that they learn about the wisdom, openness and contributions made by the first PM of Independent india. All who agree should make sure that this reaches to all Indians including Modi and BJP supporters so that they are freed from the shackles of ignorance and denial.
Modiji is such a sadist person . He will never change. Pray that this time he will lose royally and our democracy is saved.
history tells us, Wherever one community got more power, they started their own war for a separation
Well informative conversation. Expect more conversations like this
Only one awsome❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Deepest Respect Mr Kapil , eagerly await every episode, God Bless
Exilence...thank u sibbal saab...massive respect...
History rectify our misdeed ! After few decades from now it will never forgive Mr Modi ji for what he has been doing divisive politics since 2014 ! Unemployment is the ultimate threat to India what our PM ignored by his own merit of illiteracy +++ great discussion on the history of India. Prime minister shared his views in the election campaign repeatedly without minimum knowledge that's not welcome - actually PM whatever he used to say that need not to be paid for any GST 😊
Are you unemployed?
Dhanyawad Kapil ji jayramji
He should be credited for making Wetland Atlas of India.
You didn't discuss the role of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose the role in India's Independence.
And let me add:
When Nehru visited the US in November 1961, the then American President Kennedy called it as "the worst head-of-State visit" and considered the former Prime Minister's last days as "the town preacher being caught in the whorehouse".
Nehru also had a photo of Jackie Kennedy at his bedside, a report had it.
two cham ,,,chas..havign a fireside chat...without fire....lol
Well educated , much experienced , man with scientific temper and a good communicator like Jairam Ramesh deserves to be Prime Minister candidate...India needs a PM candidate like Jairam Ramesh..
He is a case of wasted education. He has strong socialist ideas which will put the country on a path of beggary
नेहरू जी नें अपनी जवानी ,अपना परिवार , अपना पुस्तेनी धन दौलत ,चल अचल संम्पत्ति सब देश के नाम कर दिया था । उनके योगदान सें बङा योगदान देश में किसी का नही हो सकता है । 😧☹️
that's why none of his family members work and living life like a kking wow what a sacrifice.
@@urrasscal8380Plz mention what he left for his family ?
Today most of the politicians r accumulating wealth fir their family..
@@ErHajiHussain 🤔🤔 but kehna kya chahtey ho?
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To erase history means to destroy the future 4:01 of the people.
There were three prime ministers in the country who were truly knowledgeable and farsighted, Pandit Nehru, Priyadarshini Indira, and Dr Manmohan Singh.
India will never be able to repay it's debt back to them.
Nehru (a british agent) made sure..even after independence....india was under british rule...thru the backdoor..
No, diversity is not good. It should be one nation, one people so that it is easy to dance to the tunes of modi.😅
Kapil ji swami se es por debate kijiye nehru por
Congress ko public me urban areas me jaake woekers ko kaam karna jaruri hai
Unity in diversity.
The talk is good. But across India, till 2014, any stadium airports, museums, hospitals all are named after Nehru, Indira, Rajiv.. why? Why did Congress refrain from inclusiveness when it matters naming govt institutions? Are there any Rajagopalachari named institutes in India? Please give the names if so.
How much do you know India? Who says only Nehru Gandhi family got things named after them ?
Search you will find many other names too.
At right from the beginning PM Mr Modi publically accepted when I visited by train when seat was not available he made moov to offering hand to look out future and grah and nakshtra as jyotishcharya. Habit of fake moov to hold seat indicate I'll minded. Whether it is normal person or prime minister.
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Oh! It’s not appeasement!
please ask mr jairam to speak louder
What is the best biography of JL Nehru ?
Sir excuse me u said that religion and politics should b separated.But in the modern world v witness that the Islamic Republic Of Iran has how much progressed in the field of science and technology.If political power is reined by a pious religious leader then the despairaty between the poor and rich could b checked ad they have done in Iran.
Life was completely different before 2000 with lots of poverty n how to bring the people out of it.
After 2000 there were lots of options like loans availment from foreigh Institutions for it's development but sadly it is given to a few crony capitalist and the poor people r given 5 kg rice wheat pm more so after 2014
Absolutely, whatever is said about Pujya Nehru ji is true.
However, he also made blunder mistakes for which India continues to pay a heavy price
Furthermore, what is the status of Congress today? Doesn’t Congress have a leader better than Rahul Gandhi?
Should Indians elect a party which has no real leaders or continue to reward his great grand children.
Modi is taking advantage of the current impotency in Congress leadership.
With the help of isro Jairam ji created first wetland atlas of India. Modi ji with help of isro took images of Ram Mandir from space. Mandir or Wetland what is important for country?
शायद संविधान इसलिए बदलने कि बात हो सकती है की सियासत को काम करने में दिक्कत होगी तभी कोई नई व्यवस्था आ सकती है
Only congress has men of high calibre and highly educated and intellectual in Indian political. BJP is totally bereft of these qualities
Itihas is written by winners so itihas is always distorted. It is presented from the view of winner. And nehru already removed the name of many freedom fighters from history.
nehru= looted INA gold...collected for India independence
Best Estimate: NDA including BJP about 250, INDIA Alliance including Congress about 220, 70 to 80 seats will go regional parties who currently are neither supporting BJP nor supporting Congress, these jokers will become the kingmakers, who they align with after results have come out will determine whether next Prime Minister will come from NDA or from INDIA Alliance. Basically, this election has become anyone guess.
Constitution was first initiated by Netaji Subhash Bose not Nehru. Subhash-ji Convinced Nehru and others.
Ji nahi It was Nehru Sr and Nehru Jr who were working on it before others . Bose and JLNehru worked together in details eg planning commission had its roots in their proposals
Also please name one airport, museum, stadium named after Dr.Ambedkar during the Congress period( between 1947 - 1990)
You are talking of tokenism . Mayavati has done the same. What good it brought to dalits by erecting statues or renaming things after Dr Ambedkar?
If you claim that all places / things named after Nehru Gandhi family then how come today's generations know nothing about their work? How come people like you hate them ? Naming places / things bring no real value to the legacy of greats like Ambedkar or Nehru. Read their works
Observe their life paths
Inculcate their values
It's far better.
Btw ambedker was promoted by Gandhi Nehru only else he being a British Raj supporter would have lost his value after independence
Ambedkar Stadium at Ferozshah Kotla,Delhi, Ambedkar Nagar on Mehrauli Badarpur Road Delhi, Ambedkar Hospital Rohini.
PM ka एक ही कैसेट बजा देते है पेट्रोल डीजल हमारे हाथ में नहीं है रुपया अंतरराष्ट्रीय कारण से गिर रहा है बेरोज़गारी की समस्या नेहरू छोड़ गए फिर भी और कोई समस्या हो तो पाकिस्तान चले जाओ
When people ask, if not Modi Who?. We have many but these two are more than capable than Modi
Why Jai ram Ramesh is obsessed with the word Pandditji panditji instead of Nehruji?
Both of you are qualified to become Prime Minister of India but no chance of becoming one is the problem.
both are qualified...cham,,,, chas...lol
Kash ke congress apni achievements ko pichle 15 saal se karti ..aam janta ko pata hota congress kya cheez hai.!
Absolutely!
Aajkal zayda log bjp ki ideology ki baat karte hai l...matlab jamin pe kuch toh log hai joh yeh phaila rahe hai...same congress ko karna jaruri hai
Congress deshi ki sanskriti ki hatya ki he
We need a welfare state
Dr br ambedkar ji ne savidhan me secular word nhi likha tha wo nhi chahte the bharat secular Ho ye to ghatia congress thi jisne dhoke se savidhsn me badlav krke secular word Jod dia
Distorting facts. No one in the constitution committee has any idea of parallel Pakistan, ie Hindu rashtra. Nonsense
@@hassank956 oh ye kon bataega ki dharam k Naam par muslim ko 2 desh mil gye wo nonsense nhi tha lekin hindu agar Hindu rashtra ki baat bhi kar de to wo nonsense h Yhi h tum logo ki ghatia soch tum chahte ho sab Tumhare hisab se ho
BHAGWAN KO KALPNIK BATA RAHA THA TU
Kitana girega SIBBAL
Only Congress bhakti and nothing else. 😂
Pm nahi Raja he
Nehru ke per ke Nakhun ke Barabar bhi nahi he
wealth of nations nahin, asian drama bhai…
Bahujan congress vs manubadi congress
Nehru got the PM post on platter….his utter failure was on foreign affairs….very tactical and lack of strategic thinking led to creation of Kashmir issue, loss of land mass to china and Hindu rate of growth. Thanks to Narasimha Rao who faced with bankruptcy had to start reforms
Kapil bhai why don’t you get independent minded people on your show.. Jairam is a stooge and screwing up the country
2 grey haired CHAMCHAS
How long will you keep taking credit for something that happened 50+ years ago? If you talk so much why don’t you have a respectable leader? Why don’t you talk about the harm that was done since 70+ years? If you have don’t so much you have also done harm that much to the country due to which the common man is suffering. Wake up before congress party is completely wiped out. Do something constructive!!!!!
Sir,diversity is embedded in india and Hinduism. Parsis have been in india since650AD
a period ofalmost 1400 years.
The caveat is Arab religion whose proselytizing started with swords and horses.
The 1st tenet of Arab religion says it all, 'no God except Arabic God'. And that is where the issue is.
No god except Allah you must read your holi books youwill see there is also concept of allah and no one Arabs have not come with swords etc they only preached and thanks to Allah we grand parents accepted Islam lot of thanks to Allah he gave right path
Ab kon sword utha raha hai ?