Few, If Any, Could Have Done A Better Job Than Nehru But He Stayed On For Too Long
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- Few, if any, could have done a better job than Nehru but, yes, he stayed on for too long: Ramachandra Guha to Karan Thapar for The Wire.
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In an interview to discuss and assess Jawaharlal Nehru, both as prime minister and as an individual, on the 60th anniversary of his death (27th May 1964) one of the finest and most highly regarded historians of modern India has said Nehru “made mistakes, to be sure, but other people in his place would most likely have made bigger ones”, adding that there were very few people, if any, who could have done a better job than he did in the trying circumstances that Nehru faced. However, Ramachandra Guha adds that Nehru stayed on for too long as prime minister and it would have been better if he had - as at the time he himself considered - stepped down in 1958.
This 44-minute interview is a tour d’horizon that covers and discusses Jawaharlal Nehru’s achievements and failures, the challenges he faced, the goals he set himself as well as the personality of the man, including his relationship with Edwina Mountbatten and the role she played in his life. Mr. Guha says that despite the enormous challenges Nehru faced, the fact India became a credible democracy with freedoms of speech, worship, association, a credibly functioning Parliament, a free press and an independent judiciary is remarkable and the credit for this must be shared with the stalwarts that made up Nehru’s first-star studded cabinet.
The interview also discusses Nehru’s relationship with Sardar Patel and why Gandhi chose him rather than Patel as prime minister. It goes into depth about Nehru’s handling or rather mishandling of China and his failure to do more to push primary education. But, at the same time, the interview also discusses Nehru’s careful and successful handling of India’s minorities and, in particular, the sizeable Muslim population which was battered and shaken by partition, the economy, non-alignment and the building of IITs and IIMs.
Towards the end, the interview analyses why there has been such a sharp decline and fall in Nehru’s reputation since his death and whether the sins of his daughter, grandson, grand daughter-in-law and great grandson have been inflicted upon him.
If you want to understand Jawaharlal Nehru - and today, let’s be honest, few people know anything about him - this is one interview I suggest you make time to see and hear. In what can only be called a command performance, Ramachandra Guha has objectively, critically but also sympathetically, and with great balance and fairness, assessed Nehru both as prime minister and as an individual.
To help, I’ll give you a list of the questions which have been meticulously followed.
Here they are:-
1) Today is the 60th anniversary of Jawaharlal Nehru’s death and I want to use the occasion to try and assess his prime ministership so that we have a better idea not just of his achievements and failures but also the challenges he faced and the goals he set himself as well as the personality of the man himself. Now in your essay ‘Verdicts on Nehru: The Rise and Fall of a Reputation’ you write: “It is safe to say that no modern politician had anywhere near as difficult a job as Jawaharlal Nehru. At Independence, the country he was asked to lead was faced with horrific problems … No new nation was ever born in less propitious circumstances.” Are you saying that in effect he started his prime ministership with his hands virtually tied behind his back?
2) Why did Mahatma Gandhi chose Nehru rather than Patel as prime minister? What qualities did the former have which the latter may not have had?
3) Against this background India became a credible democracy with freedoms of speech, worship, association, a credibly functioning Parliament, a free press and an independent judiciary. How much of that was because of the Constitution and how much of that was because Nehru was determined this should be the outcome?
4) The economy in Nehru’s days was what’s called a mixed economy. The government set up steel plants, dams and much of heavy industry. No doubt that gave India an economic foundation it didn’t have but was he mistaken not to pursue the sort of export-led growth that took countries like Taiwan, Korea, Singapore to growths of 8, 9 and even 10%?
5) One of the challenges Nehru inherited was a very sizeable Muslim population, battered and shaken by partition, uncertain and unsure of its position in India or even whether it belonged in the country. How effectively did he handle this? And today when he’s accused of appeasement is that fair or mistaken?
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I remember 27th May 1964 , that hot summer Mid day.I was child of seven years..In those days in Village gram Panchayat, there used to be only one battery operated Radio set, some time working sometimes not.
My uncle came hopping, face terrified full of sorrow.
My grandfather, was sitting in the varanda, my uncle said in a voice I still memorize,"Pandit ji is no more."I remember my grandfather wept, family ladies, grandmother, came out.All had tears in the eyes.
I couldn't guess ,why these elders are shading their tears for a person who is,was never with us.Lives far off.
Grand father did not take his midday meal.
Now in sixty eight years life I fully got aware why my elder parents, other villagers mourned the demise of our first prime minister.
First was the best, current one is the worst.
Those days were different when government hide many things from the gullible gandhigiri injected Indian public. Subhash Bose case , Indus water treaty are cases which cannot be forgiven.
brought tears to my eyes
Absolutely heart touching. First was the best and the current is the worst 😪
What a lovely comment rather than these hate filled comments. Thanks
@@agnescraig2912 thanks sir
This is such an eye opening conversation...thank you Mr Karan
Good!
The more i read and listen about Nehru ,my intrest and admiration for him increased. Thanks for enlightning conversation.
Abusing leaders like Nehru by andhbhakts has become fashion nowadays.
he was a british puppet. you must be blind to not see that.
@@sambhrantlamba How so? Heard from WhatsApp?
Your rss was Britishers puppet@@sambhrantlamba
Karan is no great interviewer.. he likes stroking people to create controversy. A great interviewer gets what he wants without pissing people off.
This is indeed an illuminating interview on the different facets of our first Prime Minister. He is undoubtedly the architect of modern India. When India got independence, we had virtually nothing. Therefore, it was a daunting task to lay down the foundation for a modern country. Weighed against his many achievements, his shortcomings, as being projected by his critics especially the rightwing party, pale into insignificance. What most people overlook is that Nehruji was a statesman, who rubbed shoulders with the great personalities of the world. No Indian leader could claim that. His books are there for the posterity.
What we forget is that those days, we had accute shortage of resources and it was extremly difficult to set priorities. The first budget was merely 197 crores and we had accute shortage of healthcare, foodgrains, we required vaccines, schools, defence equipment, industries etc.
@rahuljadhav5599 population was 36 crores, but that makes things even worse since even the human resource is limited, especially when these 36 crores are also mostly uneducated.
And how is dollar cost relevant here. To put things in the right perspective, IIT Kharagapur was established in 1951 at a total budget of about 640 crores, whereas in 1947, the total budget of our country was 197 crores.
A very open and deeply humane analysis of "Nehru" by Ram Guha. On watching this interview I came to realise why our present PM so deeply hates & criticises Nehru. It's the comparison of a man made diamond with the real diamond and the deep envy of the former of the real one.
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Well said. Nehru has unfortunately been maligned by BJP and not given his due 🙏🙏🙏
I beg to differ with the term man made diamond. It is glass publicised as diamond.
Varghese…..wake up and smell the coffee. You cannot deny history!!! Don’t be a dumbbell 👎👎👎
This was a deep and meaningful comment. Thank you!
Thanks for this wonderful conversation in today's shallow times. We were really fortunate to have Pandit Nehru at the helm of affairs in those dark times. He did his job and its up to us to ensure that his good work is carried forward
India had may be 500 to 800 Manipoor at that time is the best trbute to Nehru.🎉
Sardar Patel was the architect of the present Indian geography.
can you please enumerate which were these 500 to 800 Manipur ?
@@anantkris6350This is what Mr.Guha said in this talk . Try to find this in his book India after Gandhi..
@@anantkris6350Manipur, Nagaland, China, Pakistan, Kashmir, Linguistic reorganization of the states, Hyderabad, Hindu code bill. Above all the fresh scars of the partition.
I have read your book, India after Gandhi and it's by far the best I have read on post independence Indian history.
Thank you Mr Guha for a wonderful tribute to Nehru .
Nehru promoted dynasty which is still continuing. 😊
Ajaykumar re-zp ..... So what . It's not written I the Constitution family people should not contest/success in the election noh ? Moreover they did a lot to India, Indir Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi's contribution to our nation is knew no bound and we are enjoying g their sacrifices now, no other Prime Ministers could have done. Be gratefull man.
If you have educated and literate children, there is nothing wrong in promoting them
@@euginiamiranda4990 Arey use your political savity, wisdom, intelligence. Congress failed in all fronts - what serious prolems di they solve ?
Tragically, both Indira gandhi, Rajiva gandhi - took, did wrong personal decisions of political nature, not probelems faced by the country .
Indira gandhi created this khalistani bhindriwala to save her political machinations, & Rajiv gandhi supported divisive attitude in case of sri lanka. civilizationally, culturally, geographically, philosophically sri lanka is the daughter of Mother India . there was absolutely no reason to promote one side . These are greatest blunders committed , for their personal ambitions. Congress failed miserably , pathetically - not one serious problem solved, on the other hand they used divide nd rule, divisive policies - based on language, region, caste, religion - particularly made mohammadens think that they can subjugte Indians/hindus again with laws that are special, privileged to Musalmans. shahabanu case is a clasical example.
Nehru saw politics as a moral commitment- what a beautiful trait. Thanks for such a nice commentary on Nehru.
The 1st PM of this country has really done what is rarely expected from others in the circumstances when this country got independence after years of slavery for being under sovereign rules for centuries. He laid a strong foundation and it is the result of that foundation we are seeing this country progressing step by step . We are proud of our ancestors as leaders doing great job for the country.
Yes he helped pakistan and china to conquer india
True. As per circumstances prevailing Then, nehru had done a marvelous job instead of dividing the country on religious lines as modi is doing now
@@manchikantimurty7375 it's about, why he allowed china attack? Why not responded properly with pakistan chutiyapan?
Why given permanent security counsel membership?
@@hunk9730 yes
Nehru was a statesman, a term that none of today's politicians in India deserves. A great interview that youngsters of today could learn about Nehru from.
Agree 100%
Anvery good statesman who misconstrued bias in favour of muslims as secularism.
A great statesman who was made a fool during his china visit and made a fool just before the war and made a bigger fool during the war as well.
A great statesman who supposed to have respected the initial democracy in Patel's appointment instead went to gandhi and cried and became a first PM.
A GREAT STATESMAN,that he gave up all his property to the party and ended up owning the party. And almost owning the country.
@@ramt6102can you site the sources, that show Nehru went to Gandhi and cried asking for PM position over Patel ?
I would be happy to read those.
@@sumitpawar000 search for "In Patel vs Nehru saga, remember that India’s first PM wasn’t elected unanimously
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Most of the details in this essay are quotes and are authentic.
@@sumitpawar000 search for ""In Patel vs Nehru saga, remember that India’s first PM wasn’t elected unanimously
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Most of the details are quotes.
Also ...."nehru was silent and it was made known to gandhi that nehru won't accept second position.ig this world Is this not crying...nothing is.
Tremendous Contribution by Jawaharlal Nehru in Building India
Thank you Karan for this exclusive discussion. I feel proud for Neheruji .
Wonderfully remembered.
Great statesman, greater patriot and greatest human being
Mr. Guha is a very special human being who opens our eyes to the days of Nehru and Patel in forming this country. Mr Thapar I seldom miss your shows thank you
Absolutely wonderful. Thank you for bringing Chacha Nehru back to life for us.
What agreat gentleman we have lost. Thankyou karan sir andguha sir.
Very knowledge imparting interview. No doubt Mr Ram Chandra Guha is best Historian in India on Gandhi Nehru and contemporary India.
Excellent program. Thanks Mr Karan Thapar.
Karan your synchronicity/Jugal bandi with Ram Guha is fruitful and productive Kudos to two ustads
Neharu ji was PM of India when it was going thru greatest challenges of the time. Long live his legacy!
But most of Asia and other colonized nations were going through even bad situations. 1949 civil war and cultural revolution in china killed millions .
A leader is defined by the vision he sets for the nation and right ideas and right direction he works for creates a culture to be on path of prosperity.
A rich Nehru, like many other upper castes of that time and current time, preferred socialism like a charity giving enterprise without empowering entrepreneural citizens.
Nehru always looked down in disdain majority of Indians and that showed in the eventual congress culture of using poverty as a poll plank to just win elections
However i credit Nehru for introducing Hindu Code Bill (but still hates for him NOT touching sharia law) which modernized Hindus more or less in a long struggle for modernity
he was a british puppet. you must be blind to not see that.
@@sambhrantlamba this is joke. also abusing me doesnt prove ur point. fact was Hindumahasabha termed as opponent of congress at tht time (which is the ancestor of BJparty) supported British when they decided to force Indians into army to fight World War2. 10-15 yrs before 1947 these ppl were puppet of british no real fight with them!
@@nikhilka8015Real andhbhakt identified.
@@nikhilka8015 please read about why they wanted indians to get into the army. Without understanding please don't expose your ignorance like this
Great interview. Hats off to Ram Guha for such a brilliant description of Great Nehru based on the facts. Karan you are as usual SUPERB. God Bless you.
A great modern day historian with true facts is what Mr Guha is
Agree. I read somewhere that he gave up 160 crore rupees of his own wealth to the Indian govt. what a man
@@rohandev1444and his father too Moti Lal Nehru.
Yes, you should read also about Mohammad 56 Yr old with 6 Yr aisha
Every Indian must listen to discovery of India. Amazing writing
Excellent interview Karan, Nehru was the right gaint to lead The country when needed most!
Nehru build his own reputation without begging press and media. !
Disagree. There was no social media in those days
@@dharmashekhar1047 But there was the printed press and Nehru claimed that if He wasn't criticised by the press there was something wrong.
Women just loved Nehru. Muslims liked him. He was Country's favourite. He was rational with scientific temper. Thats why he was chosen
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Excellent insightful analysis. Thanks a lot, Guha and Tapar.🎉
Listening to this interview was a beautiful and enriching experience. A fitting tribute to this great son of India on his death anniversary. One only wishes that the future generations of India get an opportunity to study and learn about these men who laid the foundation of modern India.
Did u even listen to the interview he contradicts himself every 5 minutes & keeps running around in circles.
Wonder ful man save india save democracy man he is right man for india
This conversation is so enjoyable, lovely and interesting. What a spectacular way, style and presentation by Prof. Ramachandra Guha!! So much humility, humbleness, versatile flow of English! You never move an inch! It's timely too at this juncture. Who is in comparison for Nehruji? Mr. RG missed Nehru's love for Children in his wonderful summary. Alas, mention of Modi & his present regime....indigestable. Modi is too far away from Nehru! Absolutely unfit for any sort of comparison! Nehru is still in our Hearts, We miss him deeply. However, he has left equally talented family-progeny who might steer our Nation forward. Legacy will never die. History, perhaps, means many an Experience in one's life! India is in deep trouble of all sorts now. Fate & Destiny is vulnerably challenging too. It's time We need Heavenly intervention!!
Indira was chosen several years after Nehru had died. Rajiv was appointed when Indira was lying dead, Sonia declined the PM post in 2004 and yet it’s commonly believed power was handed down personally by the elders to their progeny. The simple reality is the people are feudal, still are, and they choose in such a manner in feudal societies and this also explains why so many families across the country have had similar experiences past 70 years. But the story being spun so successfully of a dynasty benefits some, and the public don’t examine and educate themselves to arrive at their own conclusion, a feudal trait, but follow direction.
Rajiv Gandhi was not even and MP when he succeeded Indira Gandhi as PM. Sonia Gandhi declined the Prime Minister position, but was head of the Congress party and the remote control behind the government. Interestingly, both the communist parties and BJP are not family run businesses. The congress very much had a choice to be a democratic party, but chose to be a family run business.
@@sbhavaniyou have to then take a look at the current BJP leaders...they have a galaxy of homegrown 2nd generation leaders.
@@arpana1639 You are equating kids following their parents' footsteps and entering politics (and getting an unfair leg up) versus total control of the party by 1 family for generations?
Excellent interview and an eye opener for modern day critics of Nehru. God give them wisdom.
We regret not having read enough of Nehru in our school days. We did not know the value of him then until today where the atmosphere is literally suffocating despite being in Tamilnadu, where social equality has been ingrained in our thoughts for decades.
So true
What did you read except Muslim History ???
I, as a teacher gift my student toppers and good students DISCOVERY OF India every year, so that they understand the real India My humble contribution to that great visionary leader.
he was a british puppet. you must be blind to not see that.
@vargheseb8602 A Sweet gesture from a Teacher to Student/s.
Sir karanji and Guhaji, please accept my salute
Great Interview by Karan Thapar
Wonderful 🎉
Nehru bhakts .😊
AJAY THU THU THU@@AjayKumar-re2zp
I remember this day 27 May 1964 when Chacha Nehru passed away..India came to a Stand still with shock and grief..We miss you Panditji.. When India became independent very few realize India's Debt to GDP ratio was 247 %..the British had left India Bankrupt. Nehru brought India out of this huge crisis though there were mistakes made...today Indian governance is in gutters..
You have got to be kidding me. Ever heard of licence raj?
@@Varun2799did you at all watch this interview?
I was in 9th standard then. What a great man he was.❤🙏
A Statesman! After 55 years of Congress rule and development, Infra building, Modi came to power everything in a plate comfortably. He then started to tax the people and served his Corporate friends. To cover all this he played Hindu-Muslim card and created hatred in the Society. Shame on the Corporates.
''today Indian governance is in gutters..''
India took more than sixty odd years to give bank accounts to its poor masses. Two third Indians did not have toilets until this decade. Governmnet resources were looted at such a way that only fifteen percent reached the poor. The present governmnet made many mistakes but the good ones must be admitted as well. This does not demean the giant contributions made by our first PM for the development of the country.
India should feel proud in having Nehru ----The man who brought freedom to it, gave it constitution,set road of democratic secular system and above all laid strong foundation for her economic development by initiation of Five year 'plans.Did much and more at international and internal level for India.
Nehru built a new India after the Independence 15th August 1948. He established the following things namely a) New Constitution brought in India b) All Major Dams in India c) IITs d) IIMs e) DRDO f) Automic Power g) ISRO h) SAILs i) AIMS j) Having very good International Relations with different countries k) Different Govt Institutions or Industries built by Nehru period. The successive Govt. should have built the rest of things and improved the quality of life of our Indians. It does improve our quality of life during the course of time and we improve on it instead of criticizing it previous Nehru period. We lack reasoning in our thought process and instead we need to improve on our Country's togetherness to build a better India to reach greater heights competing with rest of the progressed Countries in the world
1947, not 48
Beautiful conversation ❤️ The open discussion will clear doubts in the minds of present generation. Great! Congratulations to both from the core of my heart.
R Guha has presented a kind and just portrayal of Nehru. Loved the bit where Nehru considered all Indians as equal without insanely downgrading some as infiltrators.
Very nice and lot to know about Nehruji....great interview and conversation....young people should watch this interview to know real about Panditji.....A great tribute by Guha and Karan.....
Excellently explained by sir Ram Guha,
Very enlightening interview. Thanks Karan and Guha.
what an enlightening interview...respect for nehru increases everyday for his foresight, humanism & liberal values...
One of my favourite historian ..i have read many of your books 🙏
What better tribute to our first PM can be than this discussion! Delightful watch.
Wonderful interview. Mr. Guha is a brilliant and very honest historian, this interview has some inaccuracies:
1) Hungary - Nehru did not publicly condemn the USSR invasion of Hungary but when he visited US in November 1956 and was invited to President Eisenhower's Gettysburg estate for an overnight stay, he privately condemned USSR. This is recorded by Eisenhower.
2)Nehru truly believed in non-alignment which has paid handsome dividends to India but his talk of disarmament was to cover his tracks of the nuclear bomb he was building-source Bharat Karnad. There are other evidences which give a firm indication Nehru, if was alive, would have detonated India's first bomb by December 1964. Nehru died in May 1964. Why Indira Gandhi took so long is a different story for some other day.
3)The Patel letter Mr Guha referred to with regards to China is in big circulation, this letter is dated November 7, 1950 which has been widely quoted or misused in distorted context. Atul Bhardwaj of the University of London has clearly written this letter with other letters were part of ongoing dialogue and discussions going on within the Nehru administration about China and Tibet.
4)When China comes up, Tibet comes up. In 1949 Nehru wrote to General Cariappa to give him assessment of the Indian military to take on China vis a vis Tibet. Gen Cariappa's reply was in negative. Source Manoj Joshi- a well regarded journalist and security expert who has written these letters are in the Indian archives. To elaborate further, Nehru sought UK and US help, they said do anything short of military actions. Tibet was brought into India arbitrarily and unilaterally in 1914 when China was in turmoil, the way it was done was it did not pass even the basic smell test. China said they did not recognize the agreement made with a sham delegation of Chinese people. US and UK had acknowledged Tibet as an autonomous part of China - source Melvyn C Goldstein, Prof. Srinath Raghavan, CIA declassified documents. Nehru had no choice but to give up Tibet which experts have called an exercise in realism.
5)Nehru did not bring up border issues runs contrary to the documented material. In 1954 Nehru brought up the border issue, Chou assured Nehru that the Chinese maps showing Indian area inside China were faulty and would be corrected, Nehru went to the extent of saying how would China or Chou feel if Tibet was shown on the Indian side. Source-Nehru notes he turned in after his return from China visit in 1954.
6)In 1957 when Chou visited India he told Nehru the entire border was settled and everything south of Tibet and MacMahon line was permanent border meaning NEFA now in Arunachal Pradesh was an Indian territory. Then in 1959 he drew bombshell saying the entire border was up for negotiations. Source: Prof Srinath Raghavan's War and Peace in Modern India.
7)VK Menon- Nehru was not enamoured with Menon. From Paul McGarr of the King’s College, London: “Nehru was conscious of Menon's considerable faults, not least his unerring ability to infuriate Western and Indian politicians with his barbed tongue and congenital mendacity. After receiving one letter of complaint about Menon's machinations from his sister, Vijaya Lakshmi Pandit, Nehru responded: ‘I have known Krishna now for a long time and have a fairly good appreciation of his abilities, virtues and failings. All these are considerable. I do not know if it is possible by straight approach to lessen these failings. I have tried to do so and shall continue to try…. I am not swept away by Krishna. Krishna has often embarrassed me and put me in considerable difficulties’. Paul McGarr continues “Whenever Nehru found it expedient to downplay the importance of his relationship with Menon, notably during periods of acute Indo-American tension, he did so. In conversation with Escott Reid, Canada's high commissioner to India, Nehru disparaged the notion, which he conceded was prevalent in the West, that Menon enjoyed his ‘special confidence’. ‘Without saying anything derogatory about Menon,’ Reid reported, ‘Pandit Nehru stressed that this impression was quite mistaken’. Moreover, Nehru made it clear ‘that he would have no objection if the Canadians said something to the Americans on these lines”.
8)Nehru trusted China - this is inaccurate, Howard B Schafer, a US diplomat, in his biography of Chester Bowles, a two time US Ambassador to India, has written as early as 1951 Nehru had confided in Chester Bowels of his mistrust of China. Nehru also a letter to KK Chettur, Indian Ambassador to Burma in 1951, referring to China, that a country bent on territorial expansion cannot be trusted. "Glimpses into India", a compilation of letters to Indira Gandhi from prison, has one letter stating this sentence: “no scruple had ever troubled China in the pursuit of her imperial policy. She grabbed openly, not caring even to cover her designs with a veil. ‟
9)Kriplani - he was opposed to Nehru and was not a practical person. In 1959 when Nehru asked for Rs. 100 crores, Kriplani shot down the request saying it would violate the soul of the father of the nation. Rajaji too had similiar views, too long to exapand here.
10)Being aware of India's military disparity, not being able to purchase arms because of foreign exchange and money problems and not being able to build arms at home for the same reason, Nehru and Menon worked very hard to reach a compromise with China by engaging in give and take. China made more demands, Nehru's cabinet also pressured him not to make compromises. CIA declassified documents reveal neither US nor Nehru believe China would attack. Bruce Reidel and Bert Lintner have provided firm evidence the attack was planned as early as 1959.
11) Nehru was a realist, not a dreamer as people claim. He did not get into UNSC seat trap which was a real trap by US to create a permanent wedge between US-USSR (China's backer for the UNSC seat) and India-China.
12)Nehru was building bomb and at the same time, took care of basic defense necessities, started and finished production of Maruth-24, India's first jet fighter, inducted navy ships Mysore, Delhi and several frigates in 1948, did best he could with limited sources.
God is human being with respect to Nehru ..
I am glad and immense pleasure to have people like you Karan Thapar and historian Ramachndra guha in many interviews
Thank you Karan and Ram Guha - we are indeed fortunate to have had a great team of leaders at the helm to steer the country in those formative years.
This is such a nice interview. I always had huge regard for Nehru ji. ‘Discovery of India’ is still a masterpiece summarizing India. I grew up knowing him Chacha Nehru and celebrating his birthday on 14th Nov.
I as a teacher gift my toppers and good students DISCOVERY OF INDIA so that they understand the real India. My humble contribution to that great visionary.
Excellent interview by karan Thapar
Salute u Karan ji for your fearless ways to conduct interview
🤗Always love Ram🤗Thank you for bringing him to your show regularly🤗
“Nehru died serving his beloved country….” A deeply moving conversation. Thanking these two stalwarts is an understatement. Long live Nehru 🙏
Grateful to Karan ji and Ram Guha ji for this coversation. Opened our vision on our past. Salute Ram Guha, our great historician of our time. Hostory at his fingertips. A cinversation worth preserving. Light becon to our younger generations.
Late Nehru our 1st PM,was an extraordinary & highly capable visionary . His contribution to our Country is unimaginable .
Agreed 💯
He was a ghanta neta
@@bhaveshjethwa5434elaborate with proofs .
Also explain psus,iits,sail,new dams, women rights,
And making opposition is bad for democracy.
Yes he made mistakes but you can't ignore his 100 of achievements.
@@401akshRefering Kashmir issue in U.N. when Indian forces were driving out invaders. And ,1962 Indo - Cina war.and many more.😂
@@401aksh Nicely said he has taken some wrong decision but that doesn't mean what he has done for country foundation will be forgotten.
A great interview! I wouldn't even bring the current Prime Minister to this cadre of Leaders.
Agree
Freedom fighters contributed halves of their life in independence struggle and another half in making india stand on her feet.. Becoming Indian PM that time was not bed of roses a world war has just ended..india has no food.. Bengal famine happened..riots..too many princely states and what not..people who sat in the govt worked very hard to integrate whole india..they have their individual contribution to talk about..and we have no rights to judge them as we have not shed any blood for it we are enjoying freedom without any such sacrifices..I hate the audacity of the people who talks like that about our freedom fighters..you can have a different pov but how can you abuse and call different names..just be thankful to them or atleast respect them
Well said
What blood did Nehru - Motilal or Jawaharlal - shed for India's freedom ?? Pray tell...
@@hkpandey1 you tell me..did you shed any blood for India's freedom.. or how many times you have fought for social justice...what is your contribution in today's India
@@hkpandey1The SANGHIS were bootlickers and informers of BRITISH. They had no role in freedom struggle and wanted the British to continue . Some like Maafiveer even setting a handsome sum as pension from British.
@@SK-zn2xg Please share what is yours? India was the first country in the world to gain independence. That was because of leaders like Nehru, Sardar Patel, Bhagt Singh, Dr Ambedakar and many more. The British considered India as a Jewel in their colonial crown. After India, many other colonised countries gained independence. It’s a huge acheivement for the leaders back then.
Hats off to the Karan Thapar - Ram Guha jugalabandi!!! What content, what objectivity and what balance! Thank you.
A good interview by Karan Thapar.
A good analysis with clarity and without prejudice by Ramachandra Guha.
Every student,politician,journalist,and intellectual must see this to understand a great leader,humanist,international personality,a liberal,overall a philosopher like Nehru.
Miscalculations,if not mistakes take place while framing policies,in a developing Nation which was ruled and looted by aliens for a long time.But for Nehru and his outlook and policies we would not have been survived in this world.
Thanks to Ramchandra Guha for enlightening.
Thank you dear Karan Thapar for this marvelous, eye- opening interview with Shri Ramchandra Guha.
The aura & charismatic personality of Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, will always remain, the most precious, endearing & inspiring example of a most lovable Indian Statesman.
Very eye opening interview for young generation about Nehru. We must be grateful to this great leader and human being for giving us Democracy in India. I see the shadow of him in recent Rahul Gandhi. Be a good person first and history will remember you.
By maintaining complete silence on Haz Subsidy, Madrasa Education, Wakf Bord and Sariya Law for those religious fanatics who demanded and achieved separate homeland by brutal violence against Hindus, Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists !!!!!
@krishanuadityapandey4414 Haj subsidy? You forget the entire givt machinery put in action for amarnath yatra! Why? You forget hindu undivided family law! And are you living in Pakistan that you are talking about Sharia law? Read a little rather than go by whatsapp University fake and one sided news
Sardar Vallabhai Patel was chosen by majority to be PM of independent India, but Gandhi was biased as Nehru was adamant and requested Patel and he very graciously accepted and also gave his full support.
Our country's history was manipulated to suit a certain family and it's ideologies.
@@prabharao1950sardar Patel died before first general elections.
Brilliant! Thanks Karan and Ram Guha!
I went through the entire program by Karan and guha, absolutely beautiful.
We owe immense respect, gratitude and honour to our late pm Pandit Jawarharlal Nehru....❤
Beautiful conversation and eye opener to all those who are brain washed defaming Mr Nehru....He has left a good mark so dwells in our hearts and minds to this day.....
Thank you Mr Guha and Mr Thappar....❤
very informative and interesting conversation 💕🌹🙏🏻
Every Young India should watch this.
Thank you for this interview
An opening interview / discussions for the young Indians. This should set aside the distorted history being spread by current leaders.
Chachaji....d statesman..d writer...thinker...freedom fighter...what not...legend...
This interview must be translated into Hindi to counter the huge avalanche of fake WhatsApp msgs criticising Pt. Nehru over the past decade. Pt.ji was an enigma & our young people must understand their indebtedness to the man & his vision.
Great tribute to our former PM Nehru 🙏
They opposed Ambedkar's constitution because they wanted varna based laws of Manusmriti. They opposed the tricolor flag, They opposed computerization in 80's they opposed economic liberalization of the 90's. They opposed Adhaar, GST. Let's also look at what the opposition was doing.
Bahut Badhiya Sir ❤
Mr Guha never ceases to amaze us! He is a veritable storehouse of Indian history and I wish the younger generations to come will study his works in earnest. I for one, am deeply indebted to Mr Guha for his invaluable contributions to India and the world. Thanks to you too Mr Thapar for such an insightful interview.
PANDIT JAWAHARLAL NEHRU JI JINDABAD CONGRESS PARTY JINDABAD JAI HIND JAI BHARAT 🙏🙏🇮🇳🇮🇳❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
My foot!
@@rameshwaghmare9432in your mouth 😂
Jawaharlal Nehru's contribution is immeasurable.
Above all India remains a unified democratic nation.
I was 20 when he died and remember him with great admiration and affection.
I was also fortunate to study at one of the IITs in those early days.
Great helpful discussion. Feel proud after being reminded how we raised as a nation in a non-imaginable tough time.
A nation where 75 % was poor in 1990s
What we FEAR: there will be none soon to speak the truth passionately and objectively
Lovely interview. Beautiful review. Thank you so much. 🙏❤
Great interview. If Congress comes to power they need to bring back the freedom movement, and include chapters of different political leaders of that era and their contributions in the building of this great nation. It should contain the achievements and their failures. So that students are taught the truth and not get their information from WhatsApp University.
GREAT REPORTING SIR 🙏🙏
Civilize modern era credit to our beloved PM Nehruji....
It is good to hear Sri Rama Chandra Guha praising Nehru in such nice words .
My Dad was a fan of his two uncles and his two uncles were a great fan of Nehru and so he had three pictures framed in our home Kerala. Jesus, Nehru and John Kennedy. That tells us a lot.
Karan sir , swaggers, spineless, lickers and self traitors should learn journalism from you for dignity and justification with job 🙏🙏
It is indeed a very refreshing debate to hear in the present days of a totally different India which existed in Nehru ‘s time. I am 85 years old now and so I am having the opportunity to appreciate hearing such an eminent historian. His views will almost bring tears to some people of my generation
The best explanation regarding our first PM Jawaharlal Nehru and enlightening us about his profound contributions to build India, The Idea of 🇮🇳India..
I can hear Guha all day long . Nehru and Tagore were blessed with open mind without bias against any culture . We are so blessed to have them as our national intellectual ancestors . I wonder 50 years down the line how the progeny with evaluate the long tenure of BJP and Modi ji
The progeny will certainly remember and compare the two as one the "Real diamond" vs the "Man /party made diamond", who tried his best to outshine the former by scratching it through his heinous & derogatory talk so that he may look more shining than the real one. But alas" सच्चाई छुप नहीं सकती बनावट के असुलों से, और खुश्बू आ नहीं सकती कभी कागज़ के फूलों से।"
@@satishsharma9307Amazing....👌😍
@satishsharma9307 वाह चिचा 😂😂😂
Like the GERMANS of the day want to forget NAZIS of the yore.
How can you like his maniacal babble
Thank you Karan Thaper and Ram Guha.
The Best Tribute to Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru on his Death Anniversary. Hope the young generation should watch this Interview to have an objective Analysis of this Great Statesman.
I always enjoy "The Interview" by the sr journalist, Mr Karan Thapar.❤
Hearing Ram Guha is absolute treat ! 🙏🙏
Good , meaningful , insightful conversation..!
Wonderful. Ram Guha as usual, the eloquence, his dispassionate commentary and his scholarship comes out so profusely.
To deify a fellow human, however great, is, IMO, unfair to all concerned; it presents an incomplete picture to the world, and burdens the honoree with unrealistic expectations from the public at large.
Dr. Guha has, therefore, done Panditji a great service with a fair & frank analysis of his character, achievements, and failures, demonstrating that greatness is inherent in humans despite individual flaws.
Kudos, Mr. Thapar, this interview is one of your best so far.🍀
Listening to these brilliant interviews, I always feel that they should be made available in regional languages. At least in three/four major languages
Remarkable interview by both the gentleman ! So much historical facts in less than 50 minutes 🫡
How much we miss now such noble hearted leaders who had no other goal or agenda except trying to build a strong nation where there is love and respect by the citizens towards the neighbor citizen without any discrimination and disrespect..
Our first prime minister Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru whose smiling face depicting the calmness and affection towards his fellow men is deeply carved in our hearts and it can never be erased . He will be remembered forever…
Immensely thankful to the Anchor and the guest for the subject chosen and Making his 60th anniversary a memorable one
Thank you so much for bringing Guha into Wire for wonderful eye opener on the first prime minister. The thought process is really wonderful and eloquent. I would like to remind you that politicians and public still feels the assurance that imposition of Hindi would not be on the people who still accepts it until then ENGLISH will be continuing in the Southern States particularly my own Tamil Nadu. Yes as Guha said that Nehru was the charismatic leader amongst the South Indians particularly.
Thanks Kapar for bringing such wonderful interview in this occasion.