F.A.Q Section Q: Do you take aircraft requests? A: I have a list of aircraft I plan to cover, but feel free to add to it with suggestions:) Q: Why do you use imperial measurements for some videos, and metric for others? A: I do this based on country of manufacture. Imperial measurements for Britain and the U.S, metric for the rest of the world, but I include text in my videos that convert it for both. Q: Will you include video footage in your videos, or just photos? A: Video footage is very expensive to licence, if I can find footage in the public domain I will try to use it, but a lot of it is hoarded by licencing studies (British Pathe, Periscope films etc). In the future I may be able to afford clips :) Q: Why do you sometimes feature images/screenshots from flight simulators? A: Sometimes there are not a lot of photos available for certain aircraft, so I substitute this with digital images that are as accurate as possible. Feel free to leave your questions below - I may not be able to answer all of them, but I will keep my eyes open :)
The Granville Brothers (4 brothers and a brother in law) Gee Bee R1 Super Sportster, and the R2, racing planes of the 30s, tiny wings, almost no tailplane or body, virtually flying engines, the fastest planes in the world at the time, and the most dangerous.
I would like to see some Howard Hughes airplanes. Maybe the first to go 300 mph or the one that crashed in LA. Maybe the spruce goose( I live by that one it's ok, the hangers are from the blimp days they are cool) speeding of blimps, do you do Zeplins? That might be ok, personally I think they are boring a little bit.
My grandfather built me a 1/72 scale Revell kit of this aircraft when i was a young boy. It still exists in the cellar downstairs and reminds me of him whenever i look at it.
It was more likely the Matchbox boxing of this kit. They're the same kit but Revell didn't acquire the molds until the Matchbox sold out. ;) I built this same kit in the early 90s myself!
Really interesting to see the early traits that would find their way into later aircraft like the 111 and 112. Can really see the evolution of the Heinkel design.
@@0Turbox inverted gull wing of the Stuka in 1935 too. Germanys Baumer Sausewind ,a light sport plane , has an elliptical wing in 1925 and a Dutch designer( can’t remember his name) came up with the elliptical wing even earlier.
Once again you’ve outdone yourself. You have one the best channels on aircraft I’ve ever had the privilege of watching. I particularly like how you cover many of rarer and maybe less loved machines. Thanks a million!
Great video for a beautiful albeit lesser known airplane! Two side notes: If I am not mistaken the He.70 also had influence on the Aichi D3A 'Val' dive bomber, despite being fixed-carriage and not so streamlined due to its radial engine. And according to an article writen by José Warleta Carrillo, a former Spanish aeronautical engineer, the last He.70 that actually flew was in Spanish Morocco towards 1954. This engineer was in charge of the maintenance of the planes assigned to a certain aerodrome in North Africa (Sania Ramel at Tetouan), which included a He.70 that hadn't been in flight for a long time. The plane was assigned to the Colonel in command, but as I said it was semi-abandoned. In 1952 a new Colonel arrived (Col. Díez de Rivera), and this Colonel had flown the He.70 during the Civil War, so he wanted the plane back in flight. Eng Warleta managed to find and get many spare parts from the other last air base that had the He.70 in service, León in Northern Spain, so they could restore the plane to flying condition in 1953 to the Colonel's joy. As per Warleta's knowledge the plane was still flying when he got a new destination and left Morocco in 1954. He didn't know the plane's fate but as you say in your video none survived, so probably as soon as the Colonel changed destination the plane would be grounded and later scrapped. (Source: Revista Española de Historia Militar, issue 11, May 2001)
Heinkel engineers (like Fred David) worked in Japan in the 1920’s and 30’s and taught Japanese engineers the basics that they then applied to their own subsequent designs… The Heinkel HD23 was an example of an export design for Japanese service as was the He50. Fred David also had a significant input to the Australian CAC Boomerang (as being Jewish his presence in Germany after 1933 was unhealthy).
3:55: According to the regulations of that time, the designation of the first prototype was He 70a, not He 70 V-1. The registration 'D-3' was only a preliminary one, the official registration was D-2537 and in 1934, after the introduction of letter-registrations, D-UHUX. 4:30: The first production model was NOT the He 70 A but the He 70 B. This was done to avoid confusion with the He 70a. 5:40: The cockpit on the G-model was not "slimmed down", it was in fact widened to provide more comfort to the crew and better visibility, the fairing aft of the canopy was lenghtened. The G-model had an improved wingroot-fairing and a faired, non-retractable tailwheel. Previous models had a retractable tailskid, which was often locked in the down-position. The E-series (bomber) was never built, in fact the F-2 (reconnaissance-aircraft with extended range and fitted with internal bomb-racks) seems to be the only series-production military type. The gunner operated a MG 15, not a MG 17. On hungarian aircraft it was a Vickers K machinegun. Contrary to your claims, the civil He 70's never played an important role for the Lufthansa, this comapny had only about 16 aircraft on strength. The Luftwaffe received around 300 military aircraft, where they served as trainers or liaison-aircraft and were highly appreciated by their crews.
Man, I couldn't have found this channel at a better time. Coincidentally enough I've gotten really into obscure interwar and early ww2 aviation and how they laid the groundwork for WW2 military aviation. These types of obscure planes are fascinating to me. Some cool planes you might be interested on are the curtiss falcon and hawk series's, northrop BT and Tupolev TB-3.
Brilliant. Thank you for another interesting and engaging video mate. EDIT - I just read through my comment. Firstly, apologies for my terrible spelling and Grammar. Fat thumbs! Secondly, more importantly, I hope what I have written is seen with the positivity I wrote it in and not as an attack on any one person, country, political system or ideology. Every thing in life can be seen to have it's flaws or be past it's time but World War 2 has always blown my mind for the astronomical number of achievements and andvancements in all ares of life. What we as a species managed to achieve over those few years has not been seen since. The reasons for that intensity are many but they need not be the ONLY reasons for us to push ahead. The aircraft in this video is gorgeous. Not just by it's shape and aesthetics but by the leap in design it took leading up to it's first flight. This and SO many other German designs of the time, both in the air and on paper, could have rightly won Germany the war and in a way the world, without ever firing a single shot. The German supremacy Hitler and the Nazi's craved seemed too be simmering at their very feet and they blindly tore it all apart through ignorance, hatred and arrogance. Unable to see a different way than another useless war to achieve their perfectly reasonable goals. I look at the Ukraine now and think of the possibility hovering there. I feel bereft that the Russiam leadership has seemingly repeated history in some way. Apparently regressing over a century in it's view of it's rightful place in the world and more importantly how to achieve what it seeks when what it seeks can be had, given the strength and will too embrace change. Like I said, NO system or way of living has all the answers but we as individuals seem too be able to transcend those boundaries in our own minds. No matter who we are or where we live. The mind is ALWAYS FREE. The freedom to express ourselves is a different matter for each of us. Simply part of the human experience. Regardless of the reality it exists within. This rather lengthy comment is not intended as a statement of political view but a statement of possibilities ignored and maybe lost or, perhap's not lost. I may be posting this in the wrong forum but I feel inspired by this beautiful aircraft. Inspired by the possibility it brought forward, as all new design does. That and I am not particularly "Internet savvy" so I tend to get lost in my thought's! (Now is a good time to move on, or, continue reading if your brave, curious, sympathetic, have 5 mins and a hot cuppa beside you.) In this life all it takes is for the right person to do that one "right" thing at any given point in time and a future can change on a dime. Fear can turn to hope, pain caused, shame felt, the hindsight view of regret for mistakes made, ALL can be forged into lessons learned. Powerful motivation for a more embracing and caring way forward. With every right to be proud too have learnt from the past and seen a better way. The aviation industry is built on those factors inany ways. Any one person. In the right place. Right time. At any moment. Can change the way the world turns for us all. Just like the deaigners of these aircraft changed our world. Made it smaller. More amazing. More inspiring. NOTE - I fully acknowledge the horrors of WW2/ any war, are VERY REAL. But I say Germany's "reasonable goals" above in terms of the same goals any country has. Too be able to look after it's people, stand proud in the world and lead by stellar and awe inspiring vision and imagination towards an incredible future. German aviation was DEFINITELY doing that in the 20's, 30's and into the 40's. Every time I watch your video's I can see that desire in the men and women you talk about and the amazing creativity they draw upon. A trait ALL humans share. If Hitler had been looking at the world in a broader sense and at his own peoples achievements in a more openminded and positive manner, in particular, how far ahead Germany seemed to be technologically speaking, what a world we could have had by the late 40's-mid 50's. The lessons Heinkel applied to this aircraft and learned in it's development seem to mirror many other of Germany's science and aeronautical sectors. Hitler and the Nazi party COULD have lead the way in mass passenger transport. Lead the way in Airline prestige by placing Lufthansa FIRMLY in the lead with civilian aircraft that would hae been at least a decade ahead of the rest of the world. The De Havilland Comet was a beautiful aircraft but I have always seen it as a bold design hampered by the traditional british mindset. If the ME 262 had been further devolped as a test bed towards a larger commercial airliner we may have had a German "707" by 1949-51. Who knows what we can achieve through openminded discussion, shared knowledge and the freedom to seek the best way forward without the comstraints that a world shackled by money has to accept as simple fact and reality by the very nature of the financial system we have woven theoughout our entire psyche and into our view of a successful life. Without the dark ages in Europe imagine where humankind would be if those centuries had contained the same drive, knowledge and hope as we have today. Makes ya wonder don't it?
Lots of claims about the elliptical plan form of the wing and a certain British fighter, - and even though the wing sections are quite different, you can see a similarity.
Hello Rex's Hanger, at 9:20 the photo of the airplane is a Heinkel He 111E in Spanish markings. In the photo it does superficially resemble the Heinkel He 70 however upon close examination you can see it has 2 engines, as well as the smooth fuselage instead of the bulged fairing of the He 70 cockpit. Thank you for your excellent work!
Ive built many cardboard models of this aircraft. If you notice on the pix of them, there were many variants in regards to hatches, doors, etc. The Hungarian ones even had radial engines. Pity about the magnesium internal framing though.
I had long ago searched for examples of some of the early Heinkel aircraft. I remember one fighter prototype being preferred by the pilots, HE 80 ???? I forget the numbers, too long ago. But, finding a complete list of aircraft was very difficult back in the 1990s. Thank you for a great video.
Some more awesome suggestions: -The Boeing GA-1, a triplane ground attacker with a 37mm cannon introduced in 1921 -The Boeing XB-15, a monstrously large bomber prototype designed in 1937 that was so large, flight engineers could crawl into the wing assembly and perform in flight repairs. -Consolidated P-30, a 2 seat high altitude fighter. -Northrop TB, the first full metal monoplane dive bomber in the US navy. -J2F Duck, an unusual looking amphibian biplane used until the 60s if im not mistaken in the search and rescue role. -Not real unusual, but the Curtiss Hawk and Curtiss Falcon, really cool biplanes and the backbone of the US air force for a while. Absolutely love your channel and the way it covers these amazing obscure and forgotten airplanes that set the stage for the famous planes from world war 2.
This video reminded me, I still have a model kit of one of these that I left at my parents' place that I need to finish. I have it assembled iirc, but need to paint it.
This aircraft reminds me of so many other (usually smaller) WW2 aircraft. There are obvious nods to the later He111, there's the elliptical wings that at this stage looked more like Spitfire wings than He111 wings - plus the nose reminds me of the Supermarine S6B Schneider Trophy racer. From some angles it looks like a larger version of the Yokosuka D4Y 'Judy' Japanese naval torpedo bomber, and with the paltry single forward-firing gun, greenhouse canopy and rear gunner, there's even a bit of Fairey Battle thrown in. A true smorgasbord of an aircraft.
Thanks--I learned more about the He-70 than I knew before watching this video. World War Two began with major combatants flying biplanes (small numbers) and dropping itty bitty dumb bombs and ended with jets, guided bombs, ballistic missiles and atomic bombs. In less than a decade, several generations of aviation were developed, matured, and were rendered obsolete. The He-70 started out as one-upmanship for German pride and quickly was superseded by faster aircraft.
I was always fond of this aircraft type, thanks for providing a comprehensive video on it's various versions, service history & reputation! I think the type was kept on hand as a squadron hack, liaison aircraft & training type but I don't remember for sure. I'm in the middle of a move so I can't get to my references. ;)
Giant Spitfire styling? It amazes me how you find all the archival material for these well assembled videos! Thanks, and Cheers from rural South Australia!
You should publish videos from your town. I live in rural Victoria. Moved here from Adelaide and nearly bought a house in the mid North of SA but all the houses I could afford were in towns that had no amenities for daily living
@@jonathansteadman7935 . I wonder what happens to all those dropped H's? I watch the Curse of Oak Island and the detectorist Gary drops every one. I'm worried the Island will sink under the weight
👍Thanks for video. When I saw the picture of the He.70 next to other aircraft at the 1933 Paris show, I realised how advanced the design was. I was trying to think what the British equivalent would have been in the early 30's? Maybe the De Havilland Dragon? A successful and very nice aircraft but from an earlier era.
Well, that made a bit of a change from your Blackburn Blackburd video that I've just watched - from one extreme to the other! I first became aware of this aircraft thanks to its honourable mention in the book on the history of the Heinkel He 111 by Heinz Nowarra, inevitably juxtaposing its planform with that of a Spitfire, indicating its possible influence on its design. I actually once made up a kit of its successor, the He 170 in Hungarian markings. Yes, it looked the part and with better armour and armament it may have actually BEEN the part, but it didn't have it, so it wasn't. I hadn't known how rapidly it was withdrawn from front-line service on the Eastern Front, however.
For 1/72nd scale aircraft modelers, The HE 70F is quite popular . Matchbox released it in 1988 and Revell reissued in 2005. I did the Spanish Civil War version which I won the most ugly model award for it . That's something nobody can take away from me.
I would enjoy seeing something on the Lockheed Vega. Rather advanced for it’s time and had a noteworthy history. The He 70 was certainly an elegant looking bird with the V engine. ( with the radial, not so much), but I’m curious as to where it fits in with other elliptical wing designs. This predates the Spitfire (?) I believe. But who did it first?
A bit of a late answer, but elliptical wings have been considered an option almost since the start of aeroengineering. Even in 1914-18 Prandtl published his works (further development of earlier works on aerodynamics by Lanchester), in which concluded the ellipse to be the ideal form for a wing.
Rolls-Royce did acquire a Blitz, but it was done as an engine swap for some Kestrel engines (2? I forget). These were highly regarded by the German aviation industry, and, of course, powered the original Bf-109 (meaning that, bizarrely, the Bf-109 started and ended it's life using Rolls-Royce engines!)
Great video. To everyone claiming that R. J. Mitchell got the idea for the spitfires wings from this aircraft. There may be some truth to that but it should be remembered that the idea of an elliptical plan form wing was actually well known by the time the 1930's rolled around. As it had been first promulgated by a German engineer, might have been Ludwig Prandtl, during the 1st world war. Or shortly thereafter. He wrote a technical paper on it and this was known internationally in aviation circles since the 20's. Unfortunately I cannot remember where I read this but there is a lengthy article on it somewhere online. A bunch of googling will probably turn it up.
Prandtl showed that an elliptical LIFT DISTRIBUTION was mathematically optimum. It didn't have to be obtained with an elliptical planform, but that is the easiest if the construction complexity wasn't an issue. You can actually get it with a "Hershey Bar" straight wing and suitable twist, or a combination of a straight inner section and a tapered outer section. In any case, the lift distribution tries to develop that way by itself, since lift is bled off at the tip anyway. Mitchell mainly used it to give enough volume in the wing where he needed to put the guns.
@@fritzwrangle-clouder6033 06 I think. At leas that was when his book was published. But It didn't directly contain a design for an elliptical wing. Unless I'm mistaken it was Prandtl who confirmed Lanchesters theory mathamatically and actually showed the ellipse to have have the least amount of drag.
9:21 That's a Heinkel 111 isn't it? It seems to have an engine mounted in the left wing and probably another one on the right wing being obscured by the fuselage.
5:46 - - That was a barter between the leadership of Great Britain and Nazi Germany. In exchange for that one He 70, the Germans received few Rolls Royce engines (same type) that were better than what the Germans could make in that moment. One of those Rolls Royce engines ended in the prototype of Me 109.
The Orion that was originally the company hack for Shell Oil, NC12222, S/N 180, now is in Swissair colors and conserved in Lucerne in the Transport Museum. On another note: Look at the He 70 and compare to the He 111. The shape is in there all right.
The old, mistaken myth that the Spitfire's wings were a copy of those of the He 70 keeps resurfacing... this has already been debunked. Elliptical wings were not a rarity at the time, having been used on British and Italian aircraft for example before the He 70 flew. Supermarine had designed and flown a seaplane with elliptical wings in 1929. Mitchell was shown a He 70 (the Rolls Royce powered test craft) when it was flown to England, but that was in April 1936, after the Spitfire's first flight. The Heinkel's wing was a simple ellipse, whereas the Spitfire's was created from two ellipsoid shapes and incorporated a thinner, more advanced design with a twist in it that was outside of normal ellipse design, plus advanced washout tuning that gave it the excellent stall characteristics praised by pilots. This quote from Supermarine designer Beverley Shenstone on the matter: “The ellipse was well known and had been seen before on other aircraft before Heinkel used it. Our wing was much thinner than that of the Heinkel and had quite a different section. In any case it would have been asking for trouble to copy a wing shape from an aircraft designed for an entirely different purpose.” The one feature from the He 70 wing that did influence him was the smoothness of its skin.
One of the other interesting aspects about the Heinkel He 70 was the model exported to Japan, the design of which bore significant influence upon the development of the Aichi D3A 'Val' dive bomber. This, in and of itself, may have involved many of the innumerable unofficial "exchanges of information" facilitated between the Aichi company and Heinkel Fleugzeugwerke over the years, as the Val's predecessor, the D2A, was in fact essentially the Heinkel He 50, reconfigured for carrier-based usage.
Heinkel consulted with Aichi and Mitsubishi, with.both producing elliptical wing aircraft prior to WW2 (D3A, A5M), Heinkel's engineering representative in Japan at that time was Fred David who moved to Australia in 1939 as a refugee (he was Austrian and jewish) where he was recruited to design the CAC Boomerang emergency fighter.
Somewhere, in a Lonely field. Or maybe in a long forgotten Spanish junkyard. The skeleton of the flight column & the seat still remain, and anyone that sits in it may feel a slight tingle
It has the typical 1930’s streamlined look. If they only used it as an airliner or a military transport and reconnaissance it might have fared better but that certain German political group wanted to capitalize on that design so they drafted it into full military service. It does have a Art Deco-ish look to it and the streamline look is graceful…. I think we can thank both the military and Scramble brains (y’know who I’m talking about!) for allowing their egos and the allies (ie Winston Churchill) for their courage in fighting this German political group’s evil plans….
Its a shame there are not that many good documentarys of the 1920s and 1930s civil aviation as some technological ideas where interesting concepts but technology wasnt yet to that level . Airships , autocopters. huge flying boats. and some of extreem beauty,
Finnish Air Force was this >< close to purchase He-112 fighters just before the Winter War, but the Treasury considered them too expensive and FAF had to get cheaper, poorly armed and slow Fokker D.XXIs instead. One would wonder what the outcome of the aerial war above Finland had been if FAF have had the fast and deadly He-112 fighters instead of cheap and obsolete junk? On the other hand Germany was a Soviet ally during Winter War. Would FAF gotten spare parts for their He-112s?
@@Ba_Yegu Sometimes you rather have more cheap aircraft instead of a few more expensive machines. Considering the succes of the Finnish Air Force during the Winter War I don't think the airplane was really an issue.
@@martijn9568 Clearly so, and we could together agree that hindsight is always 20/20. Finnish government was naive in trusting Soviet Union and that the possible war in Europe wouldn't touch Finland far north. The defence budget of Finland should've been boosted in time and not when Russkies already were invading. Gives food for thought even today.
@@goojedooje660 Rather similar in time frame and shows similar thinking. Though at least the He 70 was an adaptation of a civilian design rather than intended as a military plane from the start.
I wonder why do some Heinkel planes (Blitz and He-111) have these small triangular cutouts / narrowings at the wing's trailing edge at the point where it joins with the fuselage? Are they there for aerodynamic reasons, to provide firing angles for the gunner, or something else?
It appears to be related to the addition of inboard flaps on later models of the He-70 as the early models don't have a cutout. The "cutout" is mostly due to the marked angle of the end of the flap. It may have an aerodynanic function but may be for something like ground clearance when flaps are down.
The Germans were still working with the same amount of resources so building a bigger strategic bomber fleet would have meant building fewer fighters or light bombers. overall there would have been zero effect on the outcome of the war.
@@samarkand1585 likely better results in terms of ways to lose.....by an earlier defeat resulting in less destruction from ordinance of allied ground and air forces...
F.A.Q Section
Q: Do you take aircraft requests?
A: I have a list of aircraft I plan to cover, but feel free to add to it with suggestions:)
Q: Why do you use imperial measurements for some videos, and metric for others?
A: I do this based on country of manufacture. Imperial measurements for Britain and the U.S, metric for the rest of the world, but I include text in my videos that convert it for both.
Q: Will you include video footage in your videos, or just photos?
A: Video footage is very expensive to licence, if I can find footage in the public domain I will try to use it, but a lot of it is hoarded by licencing studies (British Pathe, Periscope films etc). In the future I may be able to afford clips :)
Q: Why do you sometimes feature images/screenshots from flight simulators?
A: Sometimes there are not a lot of photos available for certain aircraft, so I substitute this with digital images that are as accurate as possible.
Feel free to leave your questions below - I may not be able to answer all of them, but I will keep my eyes open :)
Would u cover the kingfisher float plane
Super marine walrus would be cool too
The Granville Brothers (4 brothers and a brother in law) Gee Bee R1 Super Sportster, and the R2, racing planes of the 30s, tiny wings, almost no tailplane or body, virtually flying engines, the fastest planes in the world at the time, and the most dangerous.
I would like to see some Howard Hughes airplanes. Maybe the first to go 300 mph or the one that crashed in LA. Maybe the spruce goose( I live by that one it's ok, the hangers are from the blimp days they are cool) speeding of blimps, do you do Zeplins? That might be ok, personally I think they are boring a little bit.
Latécoère aircraft kinda cool, maybe you can talk about one of them like Latécoère 631
My grandfather built me a 1/72 scale Revell kit of this aircraft when i was a young boy. It still exists in the cellar downstairs and reminds me of him whenever i look at it.
It was more likely the Matchbox boxing of this kit. They're the same kit but Revell didn't acquire the molds until the Matchbox sold out. ;) I built this same kit in the early 90s myself!
@@athelwulfgalland You overestimate my age. ;)
@@thebudgieadmiral5140 Ah! Okay, yeah. I tend to forget that I'm getting old sometimes! XD
I see why they forgot it, lol. You rock brother. ✌🏼
Really interesting to see the early traits that would find their way into later aircraft like the 111 and 112. Can really see the evolution of the Heinkel design.
Or where the Spits got their idea for their elliptic wings, or the Corsair for the angular wings.
@@0Turbox Are you talking about the Heinkel He87? 😂😂😂
@@0Turbox inverted gull wing of the Stuka in 1935 too. Germanys Baumer Sausewind ,a light sport plane , has an elliptical wing in 1925 and a Dutch designer( can’t remember his name) came up with the elliptical wing even earlier.
@@0Turbox 🤦♂️😂
the blitz became the "double blitz" when it was adapted into a 2 engine variant, that we know as the He-111.
Interestingly, France thought Germany was breaking the treaty of Versailles when they called it the "Blitz 2"
Wasn't there a Funfblitz as well, the HE-111Z?
Simply bullshit.
@@mbryson2899 The "Funblitz" was a recreational model used on holidays.
@@michaelpielorz9283 actually he is 100% correct.
Once again you’ve outdone yourself. You have one the best channels on aircraft I’ve ever had the privilege of watching. I particularly like how you cover many of rarer and maybe less loved machines. Thanks a million!
One of the most beautiful aircraft ever built and totally Art Deco. Beauty!
Great video for a beautiful albeit lesser known airplane!
Two side notes: If I am not mistaken the He.70 also had influence on the Aichi D3A 'Val' dive bomber, despite being fixed-carriage and not so streamlined due to its radial engine.
And according to an article writen by José Warleta Carrillo, a former Spanish aeronautical engineer, the last He.70 that actually flew was in Spanish Morocco towards 1954. This engineer was in charge of the maintenance of the planes assigned to a certain aerodrome in North Africa (Sania Ramel at Tetouan), which included a He.70 that hadn't been in flight for a long time. The plane was assigned to the Colonel in command, but as I said it was semi-abandoned. In 1952 a new Colonel arrived (Col. Díez de Rivera), and this Colonel had flown the He.70 during the Civil War, so he wanted the plane back in flight. Eng Warleta managed to find and get many spare parts from the other last air base that had the He.70 in service, León in Northern Spain, so they could restore the plane to flying condition in 1953 to the Colonel's joy. As per Warleta's knowledge the plane was still flying when he got a new destination and left Morocco in 1954.
He didn't know the plane's fate but as you say in your video none survived, so probably as soon as the Colonel changed destination the plane would be grounded and later scrapped. (Source: Revista Española de Historia Militar, issue 11, May 2001)
Heinkel engineers (like Fred David) worked in Japan in the 1920’s and 30’s and taught Japanese engineers the basics that they then applied to their own subsequent designs…
The Heinkel HD23 was an example of an export design for Japanese service as was the He50.
Fred David also had a significant input to the Australian CAC Boomerang (as being Jewish his presence in Germany after 1933 was unhealthy).
the wing design inspired the Spitfires wing design.
@@michaelpielorz9283 I see your posts are still simply bullshit Michael.
This one was a good looking machine. Style counts.
Until the shooting starts, anyway
Very nice the very first He111s were nice and shapely too.
Gorgeous and nostalgic looking plane, fore-runner of the HE 111 for sure in its wings.
Goodness gracious is this good.
Perfect Blend of everything
That is a nice looking craft. Could be built today using a turboprop, the possibilities are endless. Definitely unique. Thanks for posting it.
5:05 amazing how sleek and futuristic it looks among the other aircraft.
Wow .... another one I'd never heard of before. Thanks Rex!
Beautiful thing!.....my favourite of all time is the DH 89 Dragon Rapide.....lovely!....then home for tea and sticky buns.
A video about the He-112 would be very welcome.
Thanks for making this. I have loved this plane for years and it's great to finally see it get some recognition.
He-100 (when NO ONE shoots holes in the cooling system)?
That mainplane outline; so similar to Supermarine Type 300, even down to the little gull wing profile.
No influence at all on the Spitfire design. The evolution of the Supermarine wing concepts and the type 300 are well documented and independent.
A [subjectively] beautiful aircraft. Thank you for introducing it to us! :)
Что это значит красивый самолёт? Для меня например "Небесная блоха" красивый аппарат...
@@Вера-ь6ъ1ъ Fixed it for you. Thank you, and you're welcome! :)
3:55: According to the regulations of that time, the designation of the first prototype was He 70a, not He 70 V-1. The registration 'D-3' was only a preliminary one, the official registration was D-2537 and in 1934, after the introduction of letter-registrations, D-UHUX. 4:30: The first production model was NOT the He 70 A but the He 70 B. This was done to avoid confusion with the He 70a. 5:40: The cockpit on the G-model was not "slimmed down", it was in fact widened to provide more comfort to the crew and better visibility, the fairing aft of the canopy was lenghtened. The G-model had an improved wingroot-fairing and a faired, non-retractable tailwheel. Previous models had a retractable tailskid, which was often locked in the down-position. The E-series (bomber) was never built, in fact the F-2 (reconnaissance-aircraft with extended range and fitted with internal bomb-racks) seems to be the only series-production military type. The gunner operated a MG 15, not a MG 17. On hungarian aircraft it was a Vickers K machinegun. Contrary to your claims, the civil He 70's never played an important role for the Lufthansa, this comapny had only about 16 aircraft on strength. The Luftwaffe received around 300 military aircraft, where they served as trainers or liaison-aircraft and were highly appreciated by their crews.
Man, I couldn't have found this channel at a better time. Coincidentally enough I've gotten really into obscure interwar and early ww2 aviation and how they laid the groundwork for WW2 military aviation. These types of obscure planes are fascinating to me. Some cool planes you might be interested on are the curtiss falcon and hawk series's, northrop BT and Tupolev TB-3.
Thanks, Rex. Another great video.
Brilliant. Thank you for another interesting and engaging video mate.
EDIT - I just read through my comment.
Firstly, apologies for my terrible spelling and Grammar. Fat thumbs!
Secondly, more importantly, I hope what I have written is seen with the positivity I wrote it in and not as an attack on any one person, country, political system or ideology.
Every thing in life can be seen to have it's flaws or be past it's time but World War 2 has always blown my mind for the astronomical number of achievements and andvancements in all ares of life. What we as a species managed to achieve over those few years has not been seen since. The reasons for that intensity are many but they need not be the ONLY reasons for us to push ahead.
The aircraft in this video is gorgeous. Not just by it's shape and aesthetics but by the leap in design it took leading up to it's first flight.
This and SO many other German designs of the time, both in the air and on paper, could have rightly won Germany the war and in a way the world, without ever firing a single shot.
The German supremacy Hitler and the Nazi's craved seemed too be simmering at their very feet and they blindly tore it all apart through ignorance, hatred and arrogance. Unable to see a different way than another useless war to achieve their perfectly reasonable goals.
I look at the Ukraine now and think of the possibility hovering there. I feel bereft that the Russiam leadership has seemingly repeated history in some way. Apparently regressing over a century in it's view of it's rightful place in the world and more importantly how to achieve what it seeks when what it seeks can be had, given the strength and will too embrace change.
Like I said, NO system or way of living has all the answers but we as individuals seem too be able to transcend those boundaries in our own minds. No matter who we are or where we live. The mind is ALWAYS FREE.
The freedom to express ourselves is a different matter for each of us. Simply part of the human experience. Regardless of the reality it exists within.
This rather lengthy comment is not intended as a statement of political view but a statement of possibilities ignored and maybe lost or, perhap's not lost.
I may be posting this in the wrong forum but I feel inspired by this beautiful aircraft.
Inspired by the possibility it brought forward, as all new design does. That and I am not particularly "Internet savvy" so I tend to get lost in my thought's!
(Now is a good time to move on, or, continue reading if your brave, curious, sympathetic, have 5 mins and a hot cuppa beside you.)
In this life all it takes is for the right person to do that one "right" thing at any given point in time and a future can change on a dime. Fear can turn to hope, pain caused, shame felt, the hindsight view of regret for mistakes made, ALL can be forged into lessons learned.
Powerful motivation for a more embracing and caring way forward. With every right to be proud too have learnt from the past and seen a better way.
The aviation industry is built on those factors inany ways.
Any one person. In the right place. Right time. At any moment. Can change the way the world turns for us all. Just like the deaigners of these aircraft changed our world. Made it smaller. More amazing. More inspiring.
NOTE - I fully acknowledge the horrors of WW2/ any war, are VERY REAL. But I say Germany's "reasonable goals" above in terms of the same goals any country has. Too be able to look after it's people, stand proud in the world and lead by stellar and awe inspiring vision and imagination towards an incredible future. German aviation was DEFINITELY doing that in the 20's, 30's and into the 40's.
Every time I watch your video's I can see that desire in the men and women you talk about and the amazing creativity they draw upon.
A trait ALL humans share.
If Hitler had been looking at the world in a broader sense and at his own peoples achievements in a more openminded and positive manner, in particular, how far ahead Germany seemed to be technologically speaking, what a world we could have had by the late 40's-mid 50's.
The lessons Heinkel applied to this aircraft and learned in it's development seem to mirror many other of Germany's science and aeronautical sectors.
Hitler and the Nazi party COULD have lead the way in mass passenger transport. Lead the way in Airline prestige by placing Lufthansa FIRMLY in the lead with civilian aircraft that would hae been at least a decade ahead of the rest of the world.
The De Havilland Comet was a beautiful aircraft but I have always seen it as a bold design hampered by the traditional british mindset.
If the ME 262 had been further devolped as a test bed towards a larger commercial airliner we may have had a German "707" by 1949-51.
Who knows what we can achieve through openminded discussion, shared knowledge and the freedom to seek the best way forward without the comstraints that a world shackled by money has to accept as simple fact and reality by the very nature of the financial system we have woven theoughout our entire psyche and into our view of a successful life.
Without the dark ages in Europe imagine where humankind would be if those centuries had contained the same drive, knowledge and hope as we have today.
Makes ya wonder don't it?
Amazing content as always thank you
Fascinating to see the fore runner of the he111. Thanks
Somehow I've never heard of this aircraft. Thanks for posting this.
This is great thanks. What an exciting time to have been around aviation. Please have a look at the HE 100.
9:22 Er Rex I think that's an early stepped cockpit He 111 (not a He70)
I have zero idea how that image even got there 🤣 good catch though
Yep. Definitely a 111 with those twin mills turning.
Good catch, check out the quick eyes on Alan! That said the ship's got the right markings for the narrative, so we'll let it slide.
A very appealing looking aircraft.
Thanks for this video, as always interesting and well made 👍.
What an advanced machine for the early 30's. Excellent video.
Thanks, I love it when you cover old stuff like this..
Beautiful plane, especially the trailing edge wing-body fairing work. Definitely looks more like stuff you’d see a decade later.
Lots of claims about the elliptical plan form of the wing and a certain British fighter, - and even though the wing sections are quite different, you can see a similarity.
Such in-depth content deserves more recognition. If you and the channel endeavour to do so you’ll get there soon!
You keep bringing up interesting topics that always brings me back even though im not aviation enthusiast!
Hello Rex's Hanger, at 9:20 the photo of the airplane is a Heinkel He 111E in Spanish markings. In the photo it does superficially resemble the Heinkel He 70 however upon close examination you can see it has 2 engines, as well as the smooth fuselage instead of the bulged fairing of the He 70 cockpit. Thank you for your excellent work!
Nice
Amazing video release schedule m8, stellar job 👍
This is a very good channel for aviation information. Thanks for your work.
Awesome work!
G'day,
Great stuff...!
Keep on keeping on.
Stay safe.
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Ciao !
Ive built many cardboard models of this aircraft. If you notice on the pix of them, there were many variants in regards to hatches, doors, etc. The Hungarian ones even had radial engines. Pity about the magnesium internal framing though.
This airplane looks stunning as an Lufthansa airliner!
I had long ago searched for examples of some of the early Heinkel aircraft. I remember one fighter prototype being preferred by the pilots, HE 80 ???? I forget the numbers, too long ago. But, finding a complete list of aircraft was very difficult back in the 1990s. Thank you for a great video.
Some more awesome suggestions:
-The Boeing GA-1, a triplane ground attacker with a 37mm cannon introduced in 1921
-The Boeing XB-15, a monstrously large bomber prototype designed in 1937 that was so large, flight engineers could crawl into the wing assembly and perform in flight repairs.
-Consolidated P-30, a 2 seat high altitude fighter.
-Northrop TB, the first full metal monoplane dive bomber in the US navy.
-J2F Duck, an unusual looking amphibian biplane used until the 60s if im not mistaken in the search and rescue role.
-Not real unusual, but the Curtiss Hawk and Curtiss Falcon, really cool biplanes and the backbone of the US air force for a while.
Absolutely love your channel and the way it covers these amazing obscure and forgotten airplanes that set the stage for the famous planes from world war 2.
This video reminded me, I still have a model kit of one of these that I left at my parents' place that I need to finish. I have it assembled iirc, but need to paint it.
Fantastic, thanks, and a beautiful plane
Keep up the GREAT WORK.
This aircraft reminds me of so many other (usually smaller) WW2 aircraft. There are obvious nods to the later He111, there's the elliptical wings that at this stage looked more like Spitfire wings than He111 wings - plus the nose reminds me of the Supermarine S6B Schneider Trophy racer. From some angles it looks like a larger version of the Yokosuka D4Y 'Judy' Japanese naval torpedo bomber, and with the paltry single forward-firing gun, greenhouse canopy and rear gunner, there's even a bit of Fairey Battle thrown in. A true smorgasbord of an aircraft.
Great vid. nice subject. Well done
Thanks--I learned more about the He-70 than I knew before watching this video. World War Two began with major combatants flying biplanes (small numbers) and dropping itty bitty dumb bombs and ended with jets, guided bombs, ballistic missiles and atomic bombs. In less than a decade, several generations of aviation were developed, matured, and were rendered obsolete. The He-70 started out as one-upmanship for German pride and quickly was superseded by faster aircraft.
I was always fond of this aircraft type, thanks for providing a comprehensive video on it's various versions, service history & reputation! I think the type was kept on hand as a squadron hack, liaison aircraft & training type but I don't remember for sure. I'm in the middle of a move so I can't get to my references. ;)
Giant Spitfire styling? It amazes me how you find all the archival material for these well assembled videos! Thanks, and Cheers from rural South Australia!
You should publish videos from your town.
I live in rural Victoria.
Moved here from Adelaide and nearly bought a house in the mid North of SA but all the houses I could afford were in towns that had no amenities for daily living
Great work Sir thank you
Interesting video, thank you.
I bought model kits of many obscure aircraft. The Matchbox He 70 is one of these. It reminds me of a Fairey Fulmar.
Never knew any of this. Solid
Great work.
Whenever I hear the name Heinkel the scene from "Battle of Britain" where the boys are arguing which aircraft are flying overhead plays in my mind
'einkel...... Messerschmitt....'EINKEL !!!!! Brilliant film, seen it numerous times since my dad took me to see it in '68/'69.
@@jonathansteadman7935 . When I was a teen it was on TV a lot.
Felt like every month with the Dambusters being just as prevalent
@@jonathansteadman7935 . I wonder what happens to all those dropped H's?
I watch the Curse of Oak Island and the detectorist Gary drops every one.
I'm worried the Island will sink under the weight
This aircraft has great lines.
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Brilliant
Thank You
One of my favourite planes.
This looks a beautiful aeroplane
I had a revell kit of this plane. I liked it, both the model and the plane.
👍Thanks for video. When I saw the picture of the He.70 next to other aircraft at the 1933 Paris show, I realised how advanced the design was. I was trying to think what the British equivalent would have been in the early 30's? Maybe the De Havilland Dragon? A successful and very nice aircraft but from an earlier era.
The wings kept reminding me of the Spitfire, I wonder if RJ Mitchell saw them and thought, worth trying out?
Pretty sure Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles did a video on the Spitfire where he explained that its design was influenced by German aero research.
@@paulfrantizek102 I did a bit of googling, there was a He70 based in England fitted with a Rolls Royce engine.
yep. a copy with new wing sections for different speed range. mitchel admitted it early on, but denied it later when he was being deified.
Spitfire was based on it too, mitchell credited it early on, but buried the connection later when he was being deified.
@@stephenremington8448 Yes, but it didn't arrive until 27th March 1936, twenty two days after the first flight of K5054.
Well, that made a bit of a change from your Blackburn Blackburd video that I've just watched - from one extreme to the other! I first became aware of this aircraft thanks to its honourable mention in the book on the history of the Heinkel He 111 by Heinz Nowarra, inevitably juxtaposing its planform with that of a Spitfire, indicating its possible influence on its design. I actually once made up a kit of its successor, the He 170 in Hungarian markings. Yes, it looked the part and with better armour and armament it may have actually BEEN the part, but it didn't have it, so it wasn't. I hadn't known how rapidly it was withdrawn from front-line service on the Eastern Front, however.
For 1/72nd scale aircraft modelers, The HE 70F is quite popular . Matchbox released it in 1988 and Revell reissued in 2005. I did the Spanish Civil War version which I won the most ugly model award for it . That's something nobody can take away from me.
Thanks, I was just about to Google what models were available.
Gotta cling to our victories however small!
I would enjoy seeing something on the Lockheed Vega. Rather advanced for it’s time and had a noteworthy history.
The He 70 was certainly an elegant looking bird with the V engine. ( with the radial, not so much), but I’m curious as to where it fits in with other elliptical wing designs. This predates the Spitfire (?) I believe. But who did it first?
A bit of a late answer, but elliptical wings have been considered an option almost since the start of aeroengineering.
Even in 1914-18 Prandtl published his works (further development of earlier works on aerodynamics by Lanchester), in which concluded the ellipse to be the ideal form for a wing.
Cool looking plane.
11:17 the mentioned HE 112 was - as the open topped variant(!)- the most beautiful plane ever built, imho.
Looks a beautiful craft
Rolls-Royce did acquire a Blitz, but it was done as an engine swap for some Kestrel engines (2? I forget). These were highly regarded by the German aviation industry, and, of course, powered the original Bf-109 (meaning that, bizarrely, the Bf-109 started and ended it's life using Rolls-Royce engines!)
It was four Kestral engines for the airframe and because it was only the airframe Rolls Royce had to send out a Peregrine to be fitted to the Blitz.
Very interesting!
Great video. To everyone claiming that R. J. Mitchell got the idea for the spitfires wings from this aircraft. There may be some truth to that but it should be remembered that the idea of an elliptical plan form wing was actually well known by the time the 1930's rolled around. As it had been first promulgated by a German engineer, might have been Ludwig Prandtl, during the 1st world war. Or shortly thereafter. He wrote a technical paper on it and this was known internationally in aviation circles since the 20's. Unfortunately I cannot remember where I read this but there is a lengthy article on it somewhere online. A bunch of googling will probably turn it up.
Prandtl showed that an elliptical LIFT DISTRIBUTION was mathematically optimum. It didn't have to be obtained with an elliptical planform, but that is the easiest if the construction complexity wasn't an issue. You can actually get it with a "Hershey Bar" straight wing and suitable twist, or a combination of a straight inner section and a tapered outer section. In any case, the lift distribution tries to develop that way by itself, since lift is bled off at the tip anyway. Mitchell mainly used it to give enough volume in the wing where he needed to put the guns.
"The Spitfire Wing Platform: A Suggestion"
That's the article, if I got you right
It was Frederick Lanchester who first promulgated the idea of an elliptical plan form wing in 1907.
@@fritzwrangle-clouder6033 06 I think. At leas that was when his book was published. But It didn't directly contain a design for an elliptical wing. Unless I'm mistaken it was Prandtl who confirmed Lanchesters theory mathamatically and actually showed the ellipse to have have the least amount of drag.
lovely looking thing that
Can you do a video about the Zeppelin-Staaken bomber series
Thank you
9:21 That's a Heinkel 111 isn't it? It seems to have an engine mounted in the left wing and probably another one on the right wing being obscured by the fuselage.
Yes, at one point in the video we see an early He 111b in Spanish markings amongst the He 70 photos. Does show the similarity between types though.
Very good video. How about a video on Heinkel himself. And other designers.
5:46 - - That was a barter between the leadership of Great Britain and Nazi Germany. In exchange for that one He 70, the Germans received few Rolls Royce engines (same type) that were better than what the Germans could make in that moment. One of those Rolls Royce engines ended in the prototype of Me 109.
The Heinkel He 70 makes all it's contemporaries look like they were knocked together in someone's back shed.
This is a very beautiful aircraft considering the period it was designed and built.
That is one beautiful airplane ! 😘
The Orion that was originally the company hack for Shell Oil, NC12222, S/N 180, now is in Swissair colors and conserved in Lucerne in the Transport Museum. On another note: Look at the He 70 and compare to the He 111. The shape is in there all right.
I thumbed up before watching!
Seeing as you're open to requests, how about an episode on the Bennet Aviation Aitruk from NZ? Later became the Transavia Airtruck in Aussie.
The old, mistaken myth that the Spitfire's wings were a copy of those of the He 70 keeps resurfacing... this has already been debunked. Elliptical wings were not a rarity at the time, having been used on British and Italian aircraft for example before the He 70 flew. Supermarine had designed and flown a seaplane with elliptical wings in 1929. Mitchell was shown a He 70 (the Rolls Royce powered test craft) when it was flown to England, but that was in April 1936, after the Spitfire's first flight. The Heinkel's wing was a simple ellipse, whereas the Spitfire's was created from two ellipsoid shapes and incorporated a thinner, more advanced design with a twist in it that was outside of normal ellipse design, plus advanced washout tuning that gave it the excellent stall characteristics praised by pilots. This quote from Supermarine designer Beverley Shenstone on the matter: “The ellipse was well known and had been seen before on other aircraft before Heinkel used it. Our wing was much thinner than that of the Heinkel and had quite a different section. In any case it would have been asking for trouble to copy a wing shape from an aircraft designed for an entirely different purpose.” The one feature from the He 70 wing that did influence him was the smoothness of its skin.
Finally a sane man
One of the other interesting aspects about the Heinkel He 70 was the model exported to Japan, the design of which bore significant influence upon the development of the Aichi D3A 'Val' dive bomber. This, in and of itself, may have involved many of the innumerable unofficial "exchanges of information" facilitated between the Aichi company and Heinkel Fleugzeugwerke over the years, as the Val's predecessor, the D2A, was in fact essentially the Heinkel He 50, reconfigured for carrier-based usage.
Heinkel consulted with Aichi and Mitsubishi, with.both producing elliptical wing aircraft prior to WW2 (D3A, A5M), Heinkel's engineering representative in Japan at that time was Fred David who moved to Australia in 1939 as a refugee (he was Austrian and jewish) where he was recruited to design the CAC Boomerang emergency fighter.
Beautiful airplane.
Somewhere, in a Lonely field.
Or maybe in a long forgotten Spanish junkyard.
The skeleton of the flight column & the seat still remain,
and anyone that sits in it may feel a slight tingle
It has the typical 1930’s streamlined look.
If they only used it as an airliner or a military transport and reconnaissance it might have fared better but that certain German political group wanted to capitalize on that design so they drafted it into full military service.
It does have a Art Deco-ish look to it and the streamline look is graceful….
I think we can thank both the military and Scramble brains (y’know who I’m talking about!) for allowing their egos and the allies (ie Winston Churchill) for their courage in fighting this German political group’s evil plans….
Its a shame there are not that many good documentarys of the 1920s and 1930s civil aviation as some technological ideas where interesting concepts but technology wasnt yet to that level . Airships , autocopters. huge flying boats. and some of extreem beauty,
In my opinion one of the most beautiful airplanes ever built.
Handsome looking aircraft. The wing is very, very similar to the Supermarine Spitfire.
Visually yes, at least because they're both elliptical
You can see a lot of the elements of the He 112 fighter in the design.
Finnish Air Force was this >< close to purchase He-112 fighters just before the Winter War, but the Treasury considered them too expensive and FAF had to get cheaper, poorly armed and slow Fokker D.XXIs instead.
One would wonder what the outcome of the aerial war above Finland had been if FAF have had the fast and deadly He-112 fighters instead of cheap and obsolete junk?
On the other hand Germany was a Soviet ally during Winter War. Would FAF gotten spare parts for their He-112s?
@@Ba_Yegu Sometimes you rather have more cheap aircraft instead of a few more expensive machines.
Considering the succes of the Finnish Air Force during the Winter War I don't think the airplane was really an issue.
@@martijn9568 Clearly so, and we could together agree that hindsight is always 20/20. Finnish government was naive in trusting Soviet Union and that the possible war in Europe wouldn't touch Finland far north.
The defence budget of Finland should've been boosted in time and not when Russkies already were invading. Gives food for thought even today.
In usability terms, it seems rather the German Fairey Battle.
I second that
@@goojedooje660 Rather similar in time frame and shows similar thinking. Though at least the He 70 was an adaptation of a civilian design rather than intended as a military plane from the start.
@@AbelMcTalisker my late dad flew the fairy battle in ww 2 shot down in 1940
Interesting elliptical wing.....Now where have we seen that before?
In Prandtl's 1918 works on the optimal wing for minimal drag.
In the Spitfire, P-47 and Re.2000-series fighters
@@MDzmitry And Lanchester's 1907 work on elliptical lift and the S4 of 1925.
I wonder why do some Heinkel planes (Blitz and He-111) have these small triangular cutouts / narrowings at the wing's trailing edge at the point where it joins with the fuselage? Are they there for aerodynamic reasons, to provide firing angles for the gunner, or something else?
It appears to be related to the addition of inboard flaps on later models of the He-70 as the early models don't have a cutout. The "cutout" is mostly due to the marked angle of the end of the flap. It may have an aerodynanic function but may be for something like ground clearance when flaps are down.
The Germans were still working with the same amount of resources so building a bigger strategic bomber fleet would have meant building fewer fighters or light bombers. overall there would have been zero effect on the outcome of the war.
There would have been worse results for Germany even
@@samarkand1585 likely better results in terms of ways to lose.....by an earlier defeat resulting in less destruction from ordinance of allied ground and air forces...