We have to develop our own defence under European NATO which automatically excludes Hungary already, maybe with an advanced nuclear deterrent funded by all for equivalent numbers to Russia, we can already defeat Russia in a land war if required but we need to build up our defence industries, which should standardise, in the meantime!?!
Thank God a fellow German points out the lack of response and action of my country. It's so frustrating. Thank you Johnathan for inviting Fabian as guest!
Several European states have expressed willingness to take more initiative within NATO in countering the challenge it faces. This includes old and new members as well as prospective members, namely Ukraine. The US administration has not supported them because it sees them as escalation. This leaves Europe in a precarious situation. (The convoluted language and lack of practical examples is due to YT policy)
YT is terrible these days. We definitely need an alternative, just as we need an alternative to X, which is owned by a fascist who supports fascist politicians both financially and by spreading fake news.
YT algorithms seem to work more in favor of russian bots, or at least susceptible to their manipulation, rather than any logical policies geared to civilized public discourse.
I'm from the U.S. please read my above comment. Save yourselves. The U.S. does not have a clue on anything. Just look at the billion dollar Starlink contract that the Pentagon gave to a Ketamine freak with the vindictive personality of a demented 5 year old. You can not/would not believe some of the things I know. You are so screwed if NATO waits any longer...individual countries should just act on their own initiative. Please!
Absolutely FASCINATING information!!😀 Fabian Hoffmann what a treat it was to listen to your powerful insights and keen intelligence! 🤗 Jonathan was this one the best yet? What essential information!! 🤯xxx
We have to be able to defend ourselves, but it is no point in having USA in NATO if they will not help us defend the democracies and trade. The whole point of having NATO is that we are strong as an alliance and able to defend our way for life. Actually Trump and USA does not take credit for the change of philosophy in Europe. Putin deserves all the credit since 2014.
Putin has been selling the belief that big nations such as the USA,Russia, and China, should all have areas of influence they can dominate. For Russia,that is the former Soviet Baltic states,and former Warsaw Pact countries such as Poland and Romania. For China it's Taiwan and the First Island Chain. And for the USA it's Mexico and Latin America.
D. Eisenhower-former Us President and the 1st NATO supreme commander wrote; “If in 10 years, all American troops stationed in Europe for national defense purposes have not been returned to the United States,” he wrote of NATO in 1951, “then this whole project will have failed.”
Yeah, but WHY is the western app UA-cam so DUMB to accept it without any fight? 🤔 Organised troll farms can literally make negative comments about the Zelensky, Ukraine, EU, Biden, USA, PREDOMINANT. And they can promote positive comments about the Russian leaders and everything related to Russia.
Nato countries should never have been completely depending on the USA, we should have spent more than 2% of our GDPs on our militaries it was not fair to completely depend on the US we should have been partners and spend what was agreed on instead of being dependent's. Like it or not many NATO countries did not do their part.
Up to a point, you are correct. But bear in mind the US wanted to be, and did well, out of being the 'leader of the free world'. Having said that, Europe will have to boost its defence spending. I was talking to someone who was in the RAF only a few months ago. He was saying that most, possibly all, RAF stations have no air defence. We have only one field deployable anti air radar system. In his view, it is impossible to properly defend the UK's air space.
@@trevorroberts9584 D. Eisenhower-former Us President and the 1st NATO supreme commander wrote; “If in 10 years, all American troops stationed in Europe for national defense purposes have not been returned to the United States,” he wrote of NATO in 1951, “then this whole project will have failed.”
@@trevorroberts9584 What was the great benefit for the US? ------------------------------------------------------ @trevorroberts9584 5 hours ago Up to a point, you are correct. But bear in mind the US wanted to be, and did well, out of being the 'leader of the free world'.
@@calc1657The EU proved to be the US's biggest partner in trade, something the US became insanely wealthy off of. Something that likely wouldn't have happened if Russia was allowed to push further into Europe. Regardless, the "peace dividend" appeared a credible notion until Russia started being aggressive again in 2008 (or Chechnya depending on your pov). The US had different security concerns than the EU. In fact, US's defence spending has been primarily about containing China since the last 10 years if not longer.
If you are at war, it shouldn't take until 2030 to build an ammunitions factory. During WWII, the US militarized our industrial base in one, ONE, year.
Fascinating interview. I'm curious of you've kept count of how many guests have commented that while being caught unprepared has a number of plausible reasons, there's none for the collective lack of response until some time in 2023? Also, what's the count of guests saying that we should've been listening to Poland & the Baltic all along?
I wish Fabian Hoffmann was an adviser of Olaf Scholz. I don´t get it why Scholz´s advisers are so scared or whatsoever and kowtow to Russia instead of standing up and defending our values including Ukraine! Thank you for this interview Jonathan.
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@@georgemiller151 Except that Meloni does currently support Ukraine and supports the continuation of the support, so I really don't count her in the same group as the other names you mentioned, moreover, La Pen had also said that she would continue to support Ukraine, the only thing she has said against support is that if her party had won, France would have stopped supplying long-range weapon systems to Ukraine
Been reading through the comments - maybe put a pinned comment about the whole 'It's not me deleting comments' at the top of the comment section with each video. That way people won't get the wrong impression. Good interview, as always!
Great interview of a fascinating guest and I learned a lot, however I was looking forward to Hoffman discussing his thread on Twitter about what Europe must do if Trump is re-elected-basically cut the US out of NATO because they would be unreliable. I am American and horrified at the prospect of trump and embarrassed by my country right now. There is hope though. I think women are going to go to the polls en masse and save democracy. That’s my goal anyway.
Ah, UA-cam not combatting desinformation, but placing an ineffective AI to save money on moderation. This and other social media platforms need a serious legislative oversight.
Agreed. Its almost as if serious discussion backed with references gets deleted by YT and spam by bots/trolls or keyboard warrior arguments is acceptable.
For me the beginning of terrorism and the danger of non-state actors began with the Munich massacre. And, yes, I know there were plenty of preceding incidents but I was 22 and a young soldier in München on US duty as an intelligence officer. I have no doubt the real black hand behind Black September was Moscow.
Sadly nuclear deterrant favours an agressor. By definition the agressor has the upper hsnd from the start, because the victim is not agressive. In consequence the victim is more likley to believe that the agressor will actually use their nuclear weapons, and thus be intimidated. We see this scenario playing out now. Why is Putin's nuclear detrrant effective but the West's is not ? The nuclear deterrant becomes a 'shield' allowing agressors to do as they like. The only way to counter this is to counter the agressors threat and to prevent the situation from continuing by defeating him with conventional weapons.
Why does Europe always appear to be sleepwalking? Perhaps my perception is wrong? I'm in Australia a long way from Europe, so not necessarily on top of events.
it very simple. Russia is physically far from most of europe and the latter has not sense of danger or self preservation left after what they call the "peace dividend" (floating in pink feel good mist post cold war). Its no coincidence the ones you see arming rapidly and preparing for war are those who actually are next to the problem (poland, ukraine, estonia, latvia, lithuania, finland) while weak and indecisive government like Germany are prepping to slice their ukraine fund in half for next budget proposal. Never mind actual missiles can reach all of europe but here the logic comes in that deep down they dont believe it will ever happen if they "dont just escalate". This is sealed by the very weak and cowardly leadership in the US which is about to be replaced with a openly pro-putin administration
This video itself is a clear indication of how far Europe has fallen behind in everything, including digitalization, looks like this was recorded with a webcam from 2004, not 2024. Utilize a better webcam with better internet speeds, goodness gracious kein wunder.
Perhaps you wear greasy glasses that need a cloth wiping ? it happens to the best of us. And you'll see the video is just fine. Even if the video was at 144p the information is what matters. Underestimating Europe historically has happened many times before. Sleeping giants come to mind. Or another analgue the fictional Ent Trees that finany get fed up. This is nothing new. Attention span and long term thinking is in more cultures engrained that the chaos of the moment gives credit for. I bin nicht so seker dasss Du meinn Nagbar bint, in meinen Steinkolen Germanisch platt .. musings.
Why should the USA be responsible for the security of Europe. The combined population of the European community exceeds that of the USA and also their combined economies.
We (I) blame our leaders of postponing the startup of assembly lines and preparedness, but the citizens are really to blame. We have some politicians who say we are already at war with russia and people go absolutely ape about it, they don't want to hear anything of the sort, they just want to keep on with their daily life and can't handle the fact that times are changing. This has also always been evident with regard of the climate change.
Germany has reduced its military capacities in accordance with the Two-Plus-Four-Agreement of 1991, which was a condition for the unification and obtainment of full sovereignty, required especially by the British government. In fact, Margret Thatcher (the then Prime Minister) has torpedoed the agreement till the very end to prevent the unification. She herself told Gorbachev: “(it) would lead to a change to post war borders, and we cannot allow that because such a development would undermine the stability of the whole international situation and could endanger our security". Towards Germany’s federal president, Richard von Weizsäcker she said: “Her picture of Germany has evolved basically till 1942 and it hasn’t changed since.” Fintan O’Toole described in his book “The politics of pain” how after the German re-unification the English started to spook themselves into an anew fear of German domination by releasing books and movies entertaining alternative outcomes of the II. World War, imagine Germans strolling in English streets, German as the predominant language, shops offering predominantly German products, and shockingly! the German founding of a European Union. Mý own observation during debates regarding BREXIT suggests that people blaming all shortcomings of the UK government(s) would be the EU fault also think that the EU is controlled by Germany, supposely to keep the UK down. So tell me, who exactly is still a little worried about history?
Na, that's not it. There are even leaked conversations of high ranking military, that were playing 'how are we going to best do this'' - in case the chancellor would change his mind. And they didn't seem opposed to the idea, either. Not even a hint of speculation, that the system wouldn't perform as advertised.
UA-cam deletes about 95% of my comments. Like someone will post an opinion or sentiment and if I try to copy and paste it, it often gets deleted and often banned from posting for hours, I'll be surprised if they don't delete this comment.
@@Trumpulator You're right, but some comments are also hidden if they get too many thumbs downs and since this ridiculous platform doesn't even indicate what was the reason for the moderation, deletion or hiding, we can never even be sure if the comment was flagged and removed because of that, or if it got too many thumbs up, or has it just been deleted by Tube, it's relatively funny that a giant the size of Google can't get moderation and a comment section that would actually work. in addition to that, this platform engages in such double standards that it is difficult to see it anywhere else on the internet, for example, criticize the actions of Finland's eastern neighbor in English, and the comment will not be published, if you use a translator and translate it into the language of our eastern neighbor, the same comment will be published without problems, I deliberately left out the name of our belligerent neighbor because I already know in advance that the comment would not be published if I said it
Yeah. I also saw a DOCUMENTARY (a series of 3 and all are missing if you don't use a VPN) that is solely in this platform about R called, no, I can't even say the title or I won't even be able to talk about it at all. Anyway, it is "missing" with no explanation if you try to watch it with an IP from my country, but those tools to change it made the documentary re-appear, and they never said it was restricted by country at all. Also, my country paid in part of the documentary, it was apparently produced by ARTE, a French-German TV channel (that is a gem in this world). It's just very troubling to see such things. So, R is in control of YT/G00GLE, now? Or Ch?
Facing down Russian aggression was a cornerstone of Republican Party doctrine my entire life, whereas the Democrat Party was perceived as weak on Russia. How did those roles reverse?
How come you are censoring my comments? My earlier comment has disappeared from even my browser and neither show up on any of my friends' UA-cam windows for this video.
@@MrBudgiejoe I did the donaation bc, I believed that forces YT to show it, and it did :-) there has been a longer comment from me and as it seems several others being censored b4 and yep, my original comment does not show, so mb it is now pay by comment
The USA relied on Europe being dependent on it for the sake of world peace assurance. But it is withdrawing from world geopolitics it seems. So Europe has to look after itself. But this will mean Europe no longer is an ally of the USA. Right now, the USA and Europe have many agendas that align. But who knows what the future holds?
At work I had to research EU grants. Guys just browse these, the picture the grants present is that EU prepares for war. Drone grants, autonomous vehicles, logistics resiliency in west-east direction. All of them are generally worded as normal roads investments but each has requirements that suggest troop and material movement.
lol this happened juts now; at robust chromosomal different human 14 hours ago This video itself is a clear indication of how far Europe has fallen behind in everything, including digitalization, looks like this was recorded with a webcam from 2004, not 2024. Utilize a better webcam with better internet speeds, goodness gracious kein wunder. at me 53 seconds ago (edited) Perhaps you wear greasy glasses that need a cloth wiping ? it happens to the best of us. And you'll see the video is just fine. Even if the video was at 144p the information is what matters. Underestimating Europe historically has happened many times before. Sleeping giants come to mind. Or another analgue the fictional Ent Trees that finany get fed up. This is nothing new. Attention span and long term thinking is in more cultures engrained that the chaos of the moment gives credit for. I bin nicht so seker dasss Du meinn Nagbar bint, in meinen Steinkolen Germanisch platt .. musings.
@@robertbraden4454 Not anywhere, but when the same problem has been reported on every channel for the past couple of weeks already and the same thing has been mentioned in the comments of the video in question already about a dozen times, so your report was quite pointless, if you want a voice problem, it would be worthwhile at this point to do it, for example, as feedback to the platform itself because these continue notifications to parties that are not behind the missing person in the comments lead literally nowhere
@@Finnishguy777 "if you want a voice problem, it would be worthwhile at this point to do it, for example, as feedback to the platform" - I will. Thank you for the recommendation
@@robertbraden4454 It wont help. Google dont give a f... and give more rights to Ruzzian bots than real people commenting. Pretty annoying, because if you give a long answer with some depth you will often be deleted due to their n_zi word filters... And still Google wants you to pay premium for such a bad service.
YT auto translation (IDK, there's a button, now to translate any comment in one click in English) translated your comment in English by "I am fed" XD I could understand it perfectly fine, I just clicked on translate by curiosity.
Still, the question is why on earth should the americans ensure Europe’s security, specially when EU living standards are much higher ?… the US don’t run a charity and EU rich nation should not live on others dependency, specialy on security maters
Maybe because it is both a strategic and economic interest of the USA? In addition to that, lumping all of Europe together is really annoying. Can you tell me how, for example, the USA has ever contributed to Finland's security or defense if we don't include joint exercises? Finland has always taken care of its defense matters by itself and will continue to do so in the future, in addition to that, the Baltic countries and Poland and Romania all manage their defense in a very exemplary manner, the Baltic countries are of course small, but they manage their affairs better when it comes to defense than many larger EU countries such as Germany, Be that as it may There are also countries in Europe that have never been anything like "free travelers" as certain people there claim, and the grouping of all European countries together is relatively annoying for those people who live in countries where defense issues are also taken care of. Besides, in the early days of NATO, the fact that the USA took care of the defense affairs of European countries was a result of the USA's own administration, it is pointless to blame the European countries for that. And don't get me wrong, you're absolutely right that some European countries should pay more attention to these things, but that doesn't remove the fact that there are also countries here that have already done it. or maybe it's "free travel" that Finland has actually bought weapon systems from the USA, which has benefited both countries so far, strengthened our own defense as well as the economy of the *USA, but maybe this country also needs to acquire weapon systems from somewhere else in the future, because the USA will not seem as reliable in the future as an ally rather than as a trading partner. The EU region is currently the USA's largest trading partner, how do you think the situation will turn out if the USA isolates itself from the rest of the world? Some Americans also seem to have completely forgotten the fact that the USA is the only country in the entire history of NATO that has ever activated article five, the European allies did come to help you in the stupid "war on terror", but apparently this fact is not remembered by you, e.g. 15 Finnish soldiers died in Afghanistan while helping in US operations and at that time we were not even part of the entire defense alliance.
I totally agree with the Finnish guy. Another part of the reason is the question of abiding by agreements. Your word has been given to various nations, like the Philippines, Taiwan, S KOREA, Japan. By his peers Trump is a convicted liar. Lies throughout any official speaking, making his credibility and thereby USA's credibility be questionable. With the immunity changes by a very dodgy supreme Court, seems that USA may well be a dictatorship within a few yrs. Meanwhile, as stated by Putin, sorry Trump, he would withdraw support to Ukraine. Therefore cancelling agreements already made years ago. At a dangerous time in a dangerous way. Taiwan might be more worried don't you think? So perhaps we should all look elsewhere for goods and friendship. If Trump does not get in and USA sees sense, then perhaps the world will be safer. Good luck USA from 🇬🇧
@@henriikkak2091 No problem, I myself am filled to the brim with people who lump the whole of Europe in the same bundle or with people who do not understand that NATO is not about paying the bills as a certain candidate says, but rather it is a question of the countries' own defense budget recommendations, which by the way this year, as I recall, 23 member countries and of those member countries, 21 seem to be In Europe, the supporters of the man in question do not seem to realize this fact either
Once again someone lumps the whole Europe together I already explained in the lower comment that there are also countries here that, in addition to free medical care and education and social security, also have a quite credible defense, but again I'm not surprised that the matter can be explained again. if you talk about things, then talk about them properly, lumping the whole of Europe together is getting really boring and annoying btw 23 NATO member countries meet the RECOMMENDED defense budget this year, the question is still about the RECOMMENDATION, not about paying the bills, if you don't know how and on what principles NATO works, then don't take a stand on the whole matter. it shouldn't be so difficult to find out about things in 2024 anymore, you could have checked the matters in question even on NATO's own page in a second
@@Finnishguy777 Does it work for you? Countries organized for security like a hen house? Or works for your country? Maybe like the US with security for itself and the hen house?
@Finnishguy777 admire your patience.. it'll probably go out thier head and they'll ask the same questions again after listening to the MAGA bunch over the repeating thier mantras to the susceptible.
Its you tube that deletes comments not the channels or moderators, this has happened recently in all channels that even slightly related to politics or the conflict in Ukraine, I myself am the Moderator of one channel and every now and then we get complaints that we delete comments even though this is not the case in reality, and every similar channel complains about the same
@@Finnishguy777 yeah and UA-cam managment is making a fatal mistake bcuz it appears as if they are bothsides'ing the international politics of Ukr/russian affairs, and that is patently unacceptable!!!! We really CAN and will boycott UA-cam or its owner, mainly by asking legislators in US and Europe to create regulations, and in the US to remove Section 230. This dystopia will NOT be allowed by the people. Dark forces are actively trying to deny the existence of 'the free west', Ru 's stated perception is that all human freedoms are fake and an illusion. These are nihilists plainly spoken and there is no bothesides'ing them. STOP this b.s. UA-cam management!!!!!!!!!!
@@Finnishguy777 It's not even just this topic or controversial/sensitive topics. The youtube auto delete has been running amok lately, and it seems they have some kind of a AI filtering system, probably quite new, and it has huge issues.
It's UA-cam. They're deleting comments left and right. Quite often it's not even obvious, why. I've had perfectly harmless comments deleted and quite inflammatory ones did post for some reason. Always copy your own comments before posting. Then leave and come back and see if they posted. If not, try rephrasing the comment avoiding any words/names that could trigger UA-cam' 'alarm bells'.
You are not. 2023 deployment data by Statista shows that 91% of US military and civil personnel are stationed in the country, whereas only 4% are stationed in Europe. Another 4% in East Asia and Pacific, and the rest in Middle East and Africa.
Are you europeans gonna acknowledge, this isn't 1800 or early 1900. The questions on this channel has never been towards what are non-European true position of what's going on. Russia is not a pariah around the world to non European.
What age is acceptable to you? Hoffman clearly knows his subject, and and far far more than you’d be able to hold in your wee head. Fabian Hoffmann is a Doctoral Research Fellow at the Oslo Nuclear Project (ONP). His research focuses on missile technology, nuclear strategy and defense policy. His PhD project focuses on the implications of conventional long-range strike weapons on nuclear strategy. His research has been published in Journal of Strategic Studies, European Security, War on the Rocks, and The Washington Post, among others. He frequently contributes to national and international news media, with his commentary appearing in print and on television. Background Prior to joining the University of Oslo, Fabian Hoffmann worked as a research assistant at the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS). He holds an MA in War Studies from King's College London, UK, and a BA in International Relations from the University of Groningen, The Netherlands.
Thank you, Jonathan. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
Can you please do a podcast in which the only focus of the conversation is what the hell we're going to do when America leaves us
you are F-ed
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We have to develop our own defence under European NATO which automatically excludes Hungary already, maybe with an advanced nuclear deterrent funded by all for equivalent numbers to Russia, we can already defeat Russia in a land war if required but we need to build up our defence industries, which should standardise, in the meantime!?!
@@TomTomicMic US wont alow
@@JohnCSmith-lp1qr who gives a fuck.
Thank God a fellow German points out the lack of response and action of my country. It's so frustrating. Thank you Johnathan for inviting Fabian as guest!
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Several European states have expressed willingness to take more initiative within NATO in countering the challenge it faces. This includes old and new members as well as prospective members, namely Ukraine. The US administration has not supported them because it sees them as escalation. This leaves Europe in a precarious situation.
(The convoluted language and lack of practical examples is due to YT policy)
We need an other platform. YT delete to many
YT is effectively preventing open and honest discussion.
YT is terrible these days.
We definitely need an alternative, just as we need an alternative to X, which is owned by a fascist who supports fascist politicians both financially and by spreading fake news.
YT algorithms seem to work more in favor of russian bots, or at least susceptible to their manipulation, rather than any logical policies geared to civilized public discourse.
I'm from the U.S. please read my above comment. Save yourselves. The U.S. does not have a clue on anything. Just look at the billion dollar Starlink contract that the Pentagon gave to a Ketamine freak with the vindictive personality of a demented 5 year old. You can not/would not believe some of the things I know. You are so screwed if NATO waits any longer...individual countries should just act on their own initiative. Please!
Absolutely FASCINATING information!!😀
Fabian Hoffmann what a treat it was to listen to your powerful insights and keen intelligence! 🤗
Jonathan was this one the best yet? What essential information!! 🤯xxx
👍👍👍 thanks for watching!
Which bit was fascinating? Are you referring to his hairline?
@@peterlaurie1247 Is that the best you can do? Why are you such a nasty person I wonder, and why are you so bad at it?
AWESOME GUEST AND HOST!!!
Please bring back Fabian Hoffmann and ask him whether nuclear proliferation will take place in Europe and elsewhere.
Great topic, and yes, I will do.
We have to be able to defend ourselves, but it is no point in having USA in NATO if they will not help us defend the democracies and trade.
The whole point of having NATO is that we are strong as an alliance and able to defend our way for life.
Actually Trump and USA does not take credit for the change of philosophy in Europe. Putin deserves all the credit since 2014.
Putin has been selling the belief that big nations such as the USA,Russia, and China, should all have areas of influence they can dominate.
For Russia,that is the former Soviet Baltic states,and former Warsaw Pact countries such as Poland and Romania. For China it's Taiwan
and the First Island Chain. And for the USA it's Mexico and Latin America.
Or Quit pocking the Bear
@@JohnCSmith-lp1qr. What bear? Do you mean the slug.
D. Eisenhower-former Us President and the 1st NATO supreme commander wrote; “If in 10 years, all American troops stationed in Europe for national defense purposes have not been returned to the United States,” he wrote of NATO in 1951, “then this whole project will have failed.”
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Excellent guest, Jonathan! Please have him back.
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Deleted comments : probably the Russian troll farms who reports comments they don't like.
Yeah, but WHY is the western app UA-cam so DUMB to accept it without any fight? 🤔 Organised troll farms can literally make negative comments about the Zelensky, Ukraine, EU, Biden, USA, PREDOMINANT. And they can promote positive comments about the Russian leaders and everything related to Russia.
That could be it. How annoying!
The young gentleman is incredibly knowledgeable, kudos to him!
The world changes and we must adapt to this change....Europe has so much historical experience so surely we can.
Europe is radicalized and arrogant
Nato countries should never have been completely depending on the USA, we should have spent more than 2% of our GDPs on our militaries it was not fair to completely depend on the US we should have been partners and spend what was agreed on instead of being dependent's. Like it or not many NATO countries did not do their part.
Up to a point, you are correct. But bear in mind the US wanted to be, and did well, out of being the 'leader of the free world'.
Having said that, Europe will have to boost its defence spending.
I was talking to someone who was in the RAF only a few months ago. He was saying that most, possibly all, RAF stations have no air defence. We have only one field deployable anti air radar system. In his view, it is impossible to properly defend the UK's air space.
y'all tried....but we didnt allow
@@trevorroberts9584 D. Eisenhower-former Us President and the 1st NATO supreme commander wrote; “If in 10 years, all American troops stationed in Europe for national defense purposes have not been returned to the United States,” he wrote of NATO in 1951, “then this whole project will have failed.”
@@trevorroberts9584 What was the great benefit for the US?
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Up to a point, you are correct. But bear in mind the US wanted to be, and did well, out of being the 'leader of the free world'.
@@calc1657The EU proved to be the US's biggest partner in trade, something the US became insanely wealthy off of. Something that likely wouldn't have happened if Russia was allowed to push further into Europe.
Regardless, the "peace dividend" appeared a credible notion until Russia started being aggressive again in 2008 (or Chechnya depending on your pov). The US had different security concerns than the EU. In fact, US's defence spending has been primarily about containing China since the last 10 years if not longer.
If you are at war, it shouldn't take until 2030 to build an ammunitions factory. During WWII, the US militarized our industrial base in one, ONE, year.
Thank you, Jonathan and Fabian Hoffmann, for this interesting conversation. 🇺🇦
Greetings from Ireland, this is important
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Another great interview. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
Fascinating interview. I'm curious of you've kept count of how many guests have commented that while being caught unprepared has a number of plausible reasons, there's none for the collective lack of response until some time in 2023?
Also, what's the count of guests saying that we should've been listening to Poland & the Baltic all along?
This was a brilliant interview - hopefully some key politicians were listening in.
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Great vid, very good info . ty sir.
Good interview. Ukraine war has been going on since 2014, it's just in the west we didn't notice.
Exactly
I wish Fabian Hoffmann was an adviser of Olaf Scholz. I don´t get it why Scholz´s advisers are so scared or whatsoever and kowtow to Russia instead of standing up and defending our values including Ukraine!
Thank you for this interview Jonathan.
Thank you for putting on this interview. Excellent!!
Scholz is hedging his bets. He's sufferring from pipeline withdrawal symptoms.
great interview and insights.
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Another informative interview. Thanks
Lots of legitimate comments are being deleted. Several people reporting this.
its you tube not any channel or moderator, happens all the channels
It’s odd, because I’m not going around doing this. Something weird with UA-cam.
@@SiliconCurtain I lose all my comments to Prof Gerdes Channel. It has increased greatly these last few days and weeks.
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Thanks!!!!
Thanks Fabian for the analysis.
Time to completely cut dependance on the US if they vote in Trump.
Americans, please show the civilized world you are not an idiocracy in November
Trump is no different than the wave of populists that have taken power or are gaining power in Europe: Le Pen, Giorgia Meloni, Geert Wilders, etc.
@@georgemiller151 Except that Meloni does currently support Ukraine and supports the continuation of the support, so I really don't count her in the same group as the other names you mentioned, moreover, La Pen had also said that she would continue to support Ukraine, the only thing she has said against support is that if her party had won, France would have stopped supplying long-range weapon systems to Ukraine
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Sorry the radicals have it in the USA
yeah. conservatives are very radical
Been reading through the comments - maybe put a pinned comment about the whole 'It's not me deleting comments' at the top of the comment section with each video. That way people won't get the wrong impression.
Good interview, as always!
Good point!
Thanks for that. Excellent vid.
Time for the old continent to grow up
Great interview of a fascinating guest and I learned a lot, however I was looking forward to Hoffman discussing his thread on Twitter about what Europe must do if Trump is re-elected-basically cut the US out of NATO because they would be unreliable. I am American and horrified at the prospect of trump and embarrassed by my country right now. There is hope though. I think women are going to go to the polls en masse and save democracy. That’s my goal anyway.
I’m about to do a whole series of interviews based on exactly this theme!
Great guest and great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Ah, UA-cam not combatting desinformation, but placing an ineffective AI to save money on moderation.
This and other social media platforms need a serious legislative oversight.
Agreed. Its almost as if serious discussion backed with references gets deleted by YT and spam by bots/trolls or keyboard warrior arguments is acceptable.
It seems so…
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In the 1960s, the U.K. spent 6% GDP on Defense.
Today, less than 2%.
Now tell me why you think Trump is so angry with Europe.
For me the beginning of terrorism and the danger of non-state actors began with the Munich massacre. And, yes, I know there were plenty of preceding incidents but I was 22 and a young soldier in München on US duty as an intelligence officer. I have no doubt the real black hand behind Black September was Moscow.
Sadly nuclear deterrant favours an agressor. By definition the agressor has the upper hsnd from the start, because the victim is not agressive. In consequence the victim is more likley to believe that the agressor will actually use their nuclear weapons, and thus be intimidated. We see this scenario playing out now. Why is Putin's nuclear detrrant effective but the West's is not ? The nuclear deterrant becomes a 'shield' allowing agressors to do as they like. The only way to counter this is to counter the agressors threat and to prevent the situation from continuing by defeating him with conventional weapons.
Why does Europe always appear to be sleepwalking? Perhaps my perception is wrong? I'm in Australia a long way from Europe, so not necessarily on top of events.
You impression is not so far from the reality…
it very simple. Russia is physically far from most of europe and the latter has not sense of danger or self preservation left after what they call the "peace dividend" (floating in pink feel good mist post cold war). Its no coincidence the ones you see arming rapidly and preparing for war are those who actually are next to the problem (poland, ukraine, estonia, latvia, lithuania, finland) while weak and indecisive government like Germany are prepping to slice their ukraine fund in half for next budget proposal. Never mind actual missiles can reach all of europe but here the logic comes in that deep down they dont believe it will ever happen if they "dont just escalate". This is sealed by the very weak and cowardly leadership in the US which is about to be replaced with a openly pro-putin administration
This video itself is a clear indication of how far Europe has fallen behind in everything, including digitalization, looks like this was recorded with a webcam from 2004, not 2024. Utilize a better webcam with better internet speeds, goodness gracious kein wunder.
Perhaps you wear greasy glasses that need a cloth wiping ? it happens to the best of us. And you'll see the video is just fine. Even if the video was at 144p the information is what matters. Underestimating Europe historically has happened many times before. Sleeping giants come to mind. Or another analgue the fictional Ent Trees that finany get fed up. This is nothing new. Attention span and long term thinking is in more cultures engrained that the chaos of the moment gives credit for. I bin nicht so seker dasss Du meinn Nagbar bint, in meinen Steinkolen Germanisch platt .. musings.
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Why should the USA be responsible for the security of Europe.
The combined population of the European community exceeds that of the USA and also their combined economies.
We (I) blame our leaders of postponing the startup of assembly lines and preparedness, but the citizens are really to blame. We have some politicians who say we are already at war with russia and people go absolutely ape about it, they don't want to hear anything of the sort, they just want to keep on with their daily life and can't handle the fact that times are changing. This has also always been evident with regard of the climate change.
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Is Germany still a little worried about the history?
I think Germany is still too much dependent from russia.
Germany has reduced its military capacities in accordance with the Two-Plus-Four-Agreement of 1991, which was a condition for the unification and obtainment of full sovereignty, required especially by the British government. In fact, Margret Thatcher (the then Prime Minister) has torpedoed the agreement till the very end to prevent the unification.
She herself told Gorbachev: “(it) would lead to a change to post war borders, and we cannot allow that because such a development would undermine the stability of the whole international situation and could endanger our security". Towards Germany’s federal president, Richard von Weizsäcker she said: “Her picture of Germany has evolved basically till 1942 and it hasn’t changed since.”
Fintan O’Toole described in his book “The politics of pain” how after the German re-unification the English started to spook themselves into an anew fear of German domination by releasing books and movies entertaining alternative outcomes of the II. World War, imagine Germans strolling in English streets, German as the predominant language, shops offering predominantly German products, and shockingly! the German founding of a European Union.
Mý own observation during debates regarding BREXIT suggests that people blaming all shortcomings of the UK government(s) would be the EU fault also think that the EU is controlled by Germany, supposely to keep the UK down.
So tell me, who exactly is still a little worried about history?
At this point, Germany is far more worried about its future than its part, I can assure you.
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Thanks. I’m not deleting the comments- UA-cam is being odd.
Maybe Tarus dosen't work as advertised. The last thing Germany would want for their own security, is to have that demonstrated in Ukraine !!
Na, that's not it. There are even leaked conversations of high ranking military, that were playing 'how are we going to best do this'' - in case the chancellor would change his mind. And they didn't seem opposed to the idea, either.
Not even a hint of speculation, that the system wouldn't perform as advertised.
looks like comments are being auto deleted
Yep they are auto deleted but its you tube not any channels or moderators them self
@@Finnishguy777 YT is sabotaging the Free World...
UA-cam deletes about 95% of my comments. Like someone will post an opinion or sentiment and if I try to copy and paste it, it often gets deleted and often banned from posting for hours, I'll be surprised if they don't delete this comment.
@@Trumpulator You're right, but some comments are also hidden if they get too many thumbs downs and since this ridiculous platform doesn't even indicate what was the reason for the moderation, deletion or hiding, we can never even be sure if the comment was flagged and removed because of that, or if it got too many thumbs up, or has it just been deleted by Tube, it's relatively funny that a giant the size of Google can't get moderation and a comment section that would actually work. in addition to that, this platform engages in such double standards that it is difficult to see it anywhere else on the internet, for example, criticize the actions of Finland's eastern neighbor in English, and the comment will not be published, if you use a translator and translate it into the language of our eastern neighbor, the same comment will be published without problems, I deliberately left out the name of our belligerent neighbor because I already know in advance that the comment would not be published if I said it
Yeah. I also saw a DOCUMENTARY (a series of 3 and all are missing if you don't use a VPN) that is solely in this platform about R called, no, I can't even say the title or I won't even be able to talk about it at all. Anyway, it is "missing" with no explanation if you try to watch it with an IP from my country, but those tools to change it made the documentary re-appear, and they never said it was restricted by country at all. Also, my country paid in part of the documentary, it was apparently produced by ARTE, a French-German TV channel (that is a gem in this world).
It's just very troubling to see such things. So, R is in control of YT/G00GLE, now? Or Ch?
Well my comment was deleted, No dirty words used. Just my opinion didn't fit Google's point of view I guess.
I always copy my own comment before posting it. That way, if it doesn't show up, it's hardly any work to slightly edit it and try again.
UA-cam is being very weird with comments…
Facing down Russian aggression was a cornerstone of Republican Party doctrine my entire life, whereas the Democrat Party was perceived as weak on Russia. How did those roles reverse?
This comment is just to assess whether my comments are deleted by YT as well.
they get deleted if you are for peace.
Your comment is still alive, Russian
Hi - I see your comment
@@SiliconCurtainsome times takes 10 attempts plus ?
@@glacieractivity Russian??? Nope, I am German!
Baffled by the inertia of many European countries, I can come up with only one explanation: bureaucracy.
why do it in the first place?
My critical comments about Russia deleted.
But this comment stays?
Something or someone is screening critical posts.
I’ve got no idea what UA-cam is doing with the comments. It’s bizarre.
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How come you are censoring my comments? My earlier comment has disappeared from even my browser and neither show up on any of my friends' UA-cam windows for this video.
I’m not. It’s UA-cam
Once you criticize Scholz or Germany commment seems to be deleted immediately. TY .
Its automatic, and can happen to almost any comment with certain keywords, thank YT for that.
UA-cam is playing odd games with comments…
my comments deleted by YT being RT ?
Why? I can see your donation above but “ comment deleted” above it. What had you said?
@@MrBudgiejoe I did the donaation bc, I believed that forces YT to show it, and it did :-) there has been a longer comment from me and as it seems several others being censored b4 and yep, my original comment does not show, so mb it is now pay by comment
@@40watt_club It seems UA-cam is deleting some comments for absolutely no reason. Maybe you should let them know. Good luck either way my friend 😊
Harsh comments on Putin will be deleted by you tube
A world of unknown consciousness is scared and lost.
We are walking the path of our own, making into the abyss
poor sound volume to low
Pentagone has a word to say ???
The USA relied on Europe being dependent on it for the sake of world peace assurance. But it is withdrawing from world geopolitics it seems. So Europe has to look after itself. But this will mean Europe no longer is an ally of the USA. Right now, the USA and Europe have many agendas that align. But who knows what the future holds?
Jeez, the webcam on the right. It’s like 1998. Time to switch to Apple, perhaps?
The clone of Dr Strangelove??
At work I had to research EU grants. Guys just browse these, the picture the grants present is that EU prepares for war. Drone grants, autonomous vehicles, logistics resiliency in west-east direction. All of them are generally worded as normal roads investments but each has requirements that suggest troop and material movement.
Not really news.
We all knew Trump was coming 18 months ago.
lol this happened juts now;
at robust chromosomal different human
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This video itself is a clear indication of how far Europe has fallen behind in everything, including digitalization, looks like this was recorded with a webcam from 2004, not 2024. Utilize a better webcam with better internet speeds, goodness gracious kein wunder.
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Perhaps you wear greasy glasses that need a cloth wiping ? it happens to the best of us. And you'll see the video is just fine. Even if the video was at 144p the information is what matters. Underestimating Europe historically has happened many times before. Sleeping giants come to mind. Or another analgue the fictional Ent Trees that finany get fed up. This is nothing new. Attention span and long term thinking is in more cultures engrained that the chaos of the moment gives credit for. I bin nicht so seker dasss Du meinn Nagbar bint, in meinen Steinkolen Germanisch platt .. musings.
Comentarios rusos no son necesarios..ya que el unico objetivo es desinformar., y decir comentatios sin sentido.
Armchair diplomacy expert, really?
Don't sound logical does it. Wont get into outer space that way.
The comfortable older west has messed things up very badly for the future of people like your guest here
deleting comments again! I used no bad language and was not combative, but apparently my opinion is not acceptable. What a joke!
ITs you tube ai bot any channel or moderator, happens all the channels it has been already explained in comments about dozen times
@@Finnishguy777 Doesn't mean I should not voice the problem. No where in my complaint did I accuse Silicon Curtain.
@@robertbraden4454 Not anywhere, but when the same problem has been reported on every channel for the past couple of weeks already and the same thing has been mentioned in the comments of the video in question already about a dozen times, so your report was quite pointless, if you want a voice problem, it would be worthwhile at this point to do it, for example, as feedback to the platform itself because these continue notifications to parties that are not behind the missing person in the comments lead literally nowhere
@@Finnishguy777 "if you want a voice problem, it would be worthwhile at this point to do it, for example, as feedback to the platform" - I will. Thank you for the recommendation
@@robertbraden4454 It wont help. Google dont give a f... and give more rights to Ruzzian bots than real people commenting. Pretty annoying, because if you give a long answer with some depth you will often be deleted due to their n_zi word filters...
And still Google wants you to pay premium for such a bad service.
This will be over by Xmas I hope.
EU is F ed 🙄
YT auto translation (IDK, there's a button, now to translate any comment in one click in English) translated your comment in English by "I am fed" XD
I could understand it perfectly fine, I just clicked on translate by curiosity.
Please don’t rejoice 😢
@@abodabalo They brought it Upon themselves .Didnt have to be that way
@@JohnCSmith-lp1qr agreed. Your smiley is disturbing though
@@abodabalo Sory, thats how I feel about EU at this point . Felt the same for all Vaccinated and double boosted, with complications ....🙄
Still, the question is why on earth should the americans ensure Europe’s security, specially when EU living standards are much higher ?… the US don’t run a charity and EU rich nation should not live on others dependency, specialy on security maters
Maybe because it is both a strategic and economic interest of the USA? In addition to that, lumping all of Europe together is really annoying. Can you tell me how, for example, the USA has ever contributed to Finland's security or defense if we don't include joint exercises? Finland has always taken care of its defense matters by itself and will continue to do so in the future, in addition to that, the Baltic countries and Poland and Romania all manage their defense in a very exemplary manner, the Baltic countries are of course small, but they manage their affairs better when it comes to defense than many larger EU countries such as Germany, Be that as it may There are also countries in Europe that have never been anything like "free travelers" as certain people there claim, and the grouping of all European countries together is relatively annoying for those people who live in countries where defense issues are also taken care of. Besides, in the early days of NATO, the fact that the USA took care of the defense affairs of European countries was a result of the USA's own administration, it is pointless to blame the European countries for that. And don't get me wrong, you're absolutely right that some European countries should pay more attention to these things, but that doesn't remove the fact that there are also countries here that have already done it. or maybe it's "free travel" that Finland has actually bought weapon systems from the USA, which has benefited both countries so far, strengthened our own defense as well as the economy of the *USA, but maybe this country also needs to acquire weapon systems from somewhere else in the future, because the USA will not seem as reliable in the future as an ally rather than as a trading partner. The EU region is currently the USA's largest trading partner, how do you think the situation will turn out if the USA isolates itself from the rest of the world? Some Americans also seem to have completely forgotten the fact that the USA is the only country in the entire history of NATO that has ever activated article five, the European allies did come to help you in the stupid "war on terror", but apparently this fact is not remembered by you, e.g. 15 Finnish soldiers died in Afghanistan while helping in US operations and at that time we were not even part of the entire defense alliance.
@@Finnishguy777 Thanks for jumping in and saving me the trouble,
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I totally agree with the Finnish guy.
Another part of the reason is the question of abiding by agreements. Your word has been given to various nations, like the Philippines, Taiwan, S KOREA, Japan.
By his peers Trump is a convicted liar. Lies throughout any official speaking, making his credibility and thereby USA's credibility be questionable.
With the immunity changes by a very dodgy supreme Court, seems that USA may well be a dictatorship within a few yrs.
Meanwhile, as stated by Putin, sorry Trump, he would withdraw support to Ukraine. Therefore cancelling agreements already made years ago. At a dangerous time in a dangerous way.
Taiwan might be more worried don't you think?
So perhaps we should all look elsewhere for goods and friendship.
If Trump does not get in and USA sees sense, then perhaps the world will be safer.
Good luck USA from 🇬🇧
Apart from your Ancestral determination.Moral, Economic Interests, Military alliance, etc , what's your point?
@@henriikkak2091 No problem, I myself am filled to the brim with people who lump the whole of Europe in the same bundle or with people who do not understand that NATO is not about paying the bills as a certain candidate says, but rather it is a question of the countries' own defense budget recommendations, which by the way this year, as I recall, 23 member countries and of those member countries, 21 seem to be In Europe, the supporters of the man in question do not seem to realize this fact either
The problem with Europe is they like security but they don’t like debt. But they like the US debt since it gives them security.
You can have security without debt. It's called prioritization.
Once again someone lumps the whole Europe together I already explained in the lower comment that there are also countries here that, in addition to free medical care and education and social security, also have a quite credible defense, but again I'm not surprised that the matter can be explained again. if you talk about things, then talk about them properly, lumping the whole of Europe together is getting really boring and annoying btw 23 NATO member countries meet the RECOMMENDED defense budget this year, the question is still about the RECOMMENDATION, not about paying the bills, if you don't know how and on what principles NATO works, then don't take a stand on the whole matter. it shouldn't be so difficult to find out about things in 2024 anymore, you could have checked the matters in question even on NATO's own page in a second
@@Finnishguy777 Does it work for you? Countries organized for security like a hen house? Or works for your country? Maybe like the US with security for itself and the hen house?
@Finnishguy777 admire your patience.. it'll probably go out thier head and they'll ask the same questions again after listening to the MAGA bunch over the repeating thier mantras to the susceptible.
Don't get your point. You don't think nations in Europe have debts?
PLEASE FIX THIS DELETING OF COMMENTS OR YOU WILL LOSE MUCH OF YOUR AUDIENCE
Its you tube that deletes comments not the channels or moderators, this has happened recently in all channels that even slightly related to politics or the conflict in Ukraine, I myself am the Moderator of one channel and every now and then we get complaints that we delete comments even though this is not the case in reality, and every similar channel complains about the same
@@Finnishguy777OK, understood, thank you for the info. Yootoob is going to the dogs,
@@Finnishguy777 yeah and UA-cam managment is making a fatal mistake bcuz it appears as if they are bothsides'ing the international politics of Ukr/russian affairs, and that is patently unacceptable!!!! We really CAN and will boycott UA-cam or its owner, mainly by asking legislators in US and Europe to create regulations, and in the US to remove Section 230. This dystopia will NOT be allowed by the people. Dark forces are actively trying to deny the existence of 'the free west', Ru 's stated perception is that all human freedoms are fake and an illusion. These are nihilists plainly spoken and there is no bothesides'ing them. STOP this b.s. UA-cam management!!!!!!!!!!
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It's not even just this topic or controversial/sensitive topics.
The youtube auto delete has been running amok lately, and it seems they have some kind of a AI filtering system, probably quite new, and it has huge issues.
I don’t control UA-cam! I have no idea why it’s doing this!
Here we go, deleting the comments again?? You naughty boy...
UA-cam's algorithm is completely out of control. If this is AI, I want no part of it.
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@@wills9732 yea, it is crazy. I logged out and logged back on and it seems to help.
AI = absent intelligence
Not me doing it…
not okay with my very legitimate comments being censored. UNSUBSCRIBED
Nothing to do with the channel... YT has had troubles for weeks (months ?) now.
It's UA-cam. They're deleting comments left and right.
Quite often it's not even obvious, why. I've had perfectly harmless comments deleted and quite inflammatory ones did post for some reason. Always copy your own comments before posting. Then leave and come back and see if they posted. If not, try rephrasing the comment avoiding any words/names that could trigger UA-cam' 'alarm bells'.
This is happening to a lot of channels- it seems to be out of control!
It’s not me - it’s UA-cam
Dude you look like the Trump ahooter in the thumbnail 😂😂
Why should we be Europeans Military? America for America! Trump 2024!
You are not. 2023 deployment data by Statista shows that 91% of US military and civil personnel are stationed in the country, whereas only 4% are stationed in Europe. Another 4% in East Asia and Pacific, and the rest in Middle East and Africa.
@@susannehartl3067where are the dollars going?
Russians has no designs on Europe, it probable like Ukraine wants to join thé EU
Ludicrous nonsense.
Are you europeans gonna acknowledge, this isn't 1800 or early 1900. The questions on this channel has never been towards what are non-European true position of what's going on. Russia is not a pariah around the world to non European.
This guy was born in 1996? In 2000, he was only 4 years old. He definitely doesn't understand the conflicts of today.
Lol, maybe you're to old?
@@glassman304 there's a lot you don't know and it's important to have certain knowledge. Maybe you're too young.
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He’s probably even younger, sitting somewhere in a troll farm in Russia.
Sadly, age does always bring wisdom.
what would he know all secondary info ....hes not old enough
I think it's called "studying". Perhaps you have heard of it?
Extraordinarily stupid answer!
What age is acceptable to you? Hoffman clearly knows his subject, and and far far more than you’d be able to hold in your wee head.
Fabian Hoffmann is a Doctoral Research Fellow at the Oslo Nuclear Project (ONP). His research focuses on missile technology, nuclear strategy and defense policy. His PhD project focuses on the implications of conventional long-range strike weapons on nuclear strategy.
His research has been published in Journal of Strategic Studies, European Security, War on the Rocks, and The Washington Post, among others. He frequently contributes to national and international news media, with his commentary appearing in print and on television.
Background
Prior to joining the University of Oslo, Fabian Hoffmann worked as a research assistant at the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS). He holds an MA in War Studies from King's College London, UK, and a BA in International Relations from the University of Groningen, The Netherlands.
@@EEX97623 nothing Ai can’t churn out …
@@jpgpearson It is a wonder you can spell AI...