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  • @RainMakeR_Workshop
    @RainMakeR_Workshop Рік тому +626

    I still want you to put a Katana wrap on the Kriegsmesser with the uncomfortable grip.

    • @blacknblueblanket1627
      @blacknblueblanket1627 Рік тому +15

      That is katana

    • @jordanezell5132
      @jordanezell5132 Рік тому +4

      Agreed

    • @makisonoda7925
      @makisonoda7925 Рік тому +12

      A Katana is not double edged. It never will be, never can be . Putting a Katana grip and Tsuba on a double edged long sword tang does not make it a Katana nor anything equivalent to it. What Tyranth made was an abomination as he said it was , it isn’t built to last. In fact the pin to hold the long sword tang in the Katana grip was achieved only by a metal pin and glue to keep the handle on the tang. Yes the “original “ sword looks interesting, it’s fiction. Functional or not, it’s fiction. And I honestly don’t like the way a double edged blade looks with a Tsuba ( Japanese Sword guard) , and a Japanese Sword hilt looks. But that’s my personal opinion. It doesn’t matter what my opinion is. If it works, it works.

    • @GriffonSpade
      @GriffonSpade Рік тому +50

      ​​@@makisonoda7925But it's literally not fiction? It's a real thing he made. It's certainly *ahistorical*.
      And Kriegsmessers aren't double-edged if you're talking about that.

    • @Likexner
      @Likexner Рік тому +28

      @@makisonoda7925 What are you talking about? Are you sure you posted this comment in the right thread?

  • @mobgabriel1767
    @mobgabriel1767 Рік тому +489

    Shad:"its against the laws of nature when it comes to swords"
    "Its a perversion against the natural order!"
    Also shad:currently wielding a longsword with a katana handle

    • @GriffonSpade
      @GriffonSpade Рік тому +15

      Checks out.

    • @Fallenangel_85
      @Fallenangel_85 Рік тому +15

      The funny thing is, it's already been done historically and used a lot.
      The Korean Sain-Geom has pretty much a Tsuba like guard and a double edge.

    • @JustArt-ro3lp
      @JustArt-ro3lp Рік тому +3

      @@Fallenangel_85 ooh a Korean sword? Not gonna lie I’ve never heard of such weapon thank you for enlightening me.

    • @MikePhantom
      @MikePhantom Рік тому

      and promoting AI crap

    • @H20No
      @H20No Рік тому

      @@Fallenangel_85looked at some pictures and the guard looks not much like a suba. Nor does the handle have a similar length to the sword in the video, it’s just an eastern double edged sword.

  • @robertjensen1438
    @robertjensen1438 Рік тому +280

    I was confident I could win the duel until my opponent swung his sword at my ankles.
    Alas, I was de-feeted.

  • @gameragodzilla
    @gameragodzilla Рік тому +336

    Btw, as a Chinese person myself: Jian (剑) literally translates to sword but the main definition means double edged sword, whereas with dao (刀), which literally translates to knife, the main definition means single edged sword. That’s why the single edged sword in China is often called dadao (大刀), which literally translates to big (大) knife (刀).

    • @mandowarrior123
      @mandowarrior123 Рік тому +15

      What are small double edged knives/daggers called?

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla Рік тому +38

      @@mandowarrior123 Bishou (匕首), though I admit I never actually heard of the term before looking it up, so evidently it wasn't all that common compared to dao or jian.

    • @bigolbearthejammydodger6527
      @bigolbearthejammydodger6527 Рік тому +26

      oh thats wonderful.. so a dao is literally a messer (german for knife), wonder if weird tax laws was the reason in china too.

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla Рік тому +22

      @@bigolbearthejammydodger6527 Not in China because dao is literally defined as being single edge where length isn't really a legal factor, whereas the messer, I believe, is more defined by the handle construction. I'd say the more comparable legal situation to the messer and knife guilds would be how "short barrel rifles" are defined in the NFA as having stocks in modern USA, so if you have a sub-16" barrel AR-15 with just the buffer tube, it's legally a pistol (not regulated by the NFA) rather than a short-barrel rifle (regulated by the NFA). That's also why the whole pistol brace thing is in legal limbo right now.
      There's also this monstrosity to get around the AWB from 1994 to 2004: ua-cam.com/video/CcNS4JdprWc/v-deo.htmlsi=4psFhgN-6J7Wkm_1

    • @bigolbearthejammydodger6527
      @bigolbearthejammydodger6527 Рік тому +9

      @@gameragodzilla thanks for reply. interesting none the less.

  • @VegetaLF7
    @VegetaLF7 Рік тому +273

    I think one of my favorite parts about how things have evolved since Nate and Tyranth joined the team is just how much the three of you guys bicker with each other. It genuinely feels like a group of friends goofing off and I love it.

    • @jeroenceulemans3715
      @jeroenceulemans3715 Рік тому +14

      Yeah! Their chemistry is fantastic and it makes the vids so fun!

    • @TheSteam02
      @TheSteam02 Рік тому +11

      Often times, channels that introduce new members tend to fall off quickly. Not with this channel. I genuinely believe that the content has massively improved due to the inclusion of Nate and Tyranth.

    • @benjamincoulter5237
      @benjamincoulter5237 Рік тому +4

      Their friend group chemistry reminds me of the top gear chemistry

    • @LelouchVee
      @LelouchVee Рік тому +4

      Yeah, the channel has this 'Top Gear with swords' vibe, in a good way

  • @richard_n
    @richard_n Рік тому +192

    I just have to say that I've really enjoyed this series on swapping out parts of swords. It's been highly educational.

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla Рік тому +4

      I can imagine if guns weren't invented, there'd be Bubba Swordsmiths doing this kind of stuff like Bubba Gunsmiths already do now with guns (alongside Bubba's Pakistani cousin Ali Bubba if you look at some of the weird shit from Khyber Pass. Lotta AR/AK hybrids there).

    • @makisonoda7925
      @makisonoda7925 Рік тому +2

      Yeah , it educational. But there’s a reason why European and Asian sword parts were not intermixed with each other. They aren’t designed to work in tandem. Although it looks interesting. Maybe it could work, maybe it does. I just prefer to keep my swords Authentic and original to the ethnic background it was made in.

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla Рік тому +6

      @@makisonoda7925 Well yeah, obviously there will be cultural differences as to why certain designs and styles came up. One thing I find fascinating is the Americans developed quick draw techniques for handguns for the same reason the Japanese developed iaijutsu. Despite the two being very different cultures, they both came up with very similar concepts for very similar reasons, to the point where there's a lot of cross-pollination between Westerns and Jidaigeki movies. That's why I always wonder if the Europeans had their own quickdraw techniques. I'd figure if two very different cultures came up with the same thing for the same reasons, then the Europeans also should've done it for their swords.
      As it stands, the main reason why the katana is still my favorite sword despite me thinking the longsword is better once the swords are already drawn (kenjutsu in Japanese swordsmanship) is the katana is much more developed for draw techniques, and as an American (who lives in Texas, no less), I very much place a high degree of importance on quick draw, both for practical reasons and because it's really cool.
      Still, there probably could be ways to combine the two, much like how there are some professionally done hybrids of the AK/AR. The Sig 556 is a gun that's very much based mechnically on the AK, but incorporates a lot of AR ergonomics.

    • @cmaslan
      @cmaslan Рік тому +2

      Synthetic swordology

  • @aliesterus1.023
    @aliesterus1.023 Рік тому +74

    This video entertains me so much because Nate is usually the most positive of you three, but here Nate is spouting the most vitriol and Shad and Tyrinth are just a couple of kids having fun.

  • @popularopinion1
    @popularopinion1 Рік тому +22

    Watching the balance of revulsion and admiration in the boys is heartwarming.
    Also, they should commission a purpose made version of the longtana, so it doesn't have the brass pin/epoxy issue

  • @racoondraws6045
    @racoondraws6045 Рік тому +24

    I still believe that, this sword in particular it's not an abomination, it actually resembles a little bit to a Japanese ancient sword called tsurugi, this swords were actually double edged and iirc, were inspired by Chinese jian, so if you ask me...I'd say with a little tweaking on the hilt (like making it more centered) would make a good or at least decent sword design!

  • @illuminous7937
    @illuminous7937 Рік тому +110

    Heyya Shad, would love to see a video where you debunk whether fighting with your Sheath/Scabbard as a secondary weapon is worthwhile in combat (To block incoming blows ect in your off hand)
    Excellent content as always

    • @dantegallardo1974
      @dantegallardo1974 Рік тому +8

      That's so cool I want to see that

    • @zsDUGGZ
      @zsDUGGZ Рік тому +6

      That'd be fun to watch. hope Shad and the crew see this.

    • @jerryandersson4873
      @jerryandersson4873 Рік тому +3

      Yeah, do not need to use a real sheet.
      I am sure they can make something of wood.
      Dunno how acessable/cheap wood is in Australia tho.
      I do hope they go to building material stores and not hobby stores.
      Are there junkyard around for scrap metal stuff?
      Over here we have recycling centers here and there, wich can have some amazing stuff, and if you get friendly with the owner/workers and perhaps throw in some compensation, I would imagine load of useful fun stuff could turn up over time, both wood and metal.
      I miss being able to work with metals and Mills and stuff.

    • @MylesKillis
      @MylesKillis Рік тому

      Um so a dual wielding good?

    • @mrkiky
      @mrkiky Рік тому

      Unless it's a metal scabbard, I don't see it. Scabbards were usually wood, lined with fur and covered in leather and obviously hollow on the inside. The wood is very thin such that you might break it if you sit on it accidentally, so I don't see it doing a good job.

  • @Totsy30
    @Totsy30 Рік тому +68

    Shad's face at 25:04 suggests to me we might see a perfected abomination in the future. Katana hilt, longsword crossguard, and that same blade. I doubt Tyranth would be thrilled about it though lol
    Truly the merging of best attributes.

    • @josephjoestar953
      @josephjoestar953 Рік тому +10

      Maybe even a pommel ( if they even can put a pommel on a katana hilt )

    • @jamoecw
      @jamoecw Рік тому +4

      @@josephjoestar953 the longer handle acts as the pommel, as the extra length of handle adds the weight a pommel does.

    • @WJS774
      @WJS774 Рік тому +3

      @@jamoecw The extra length of the handle in no way adds the same weight as a pommel. It's only made of wood, it is _far_ lighter than a pommel.

    • @jamoecw
      @jamoecw Рік тому +2

      @@WJS774 depends on the handle, the tang, and the weight of the sword. the sword in the video weighed as much as a sword of comparable length with a pommel. maybe the original sword was much heavier despite being thinner, or maybe the weight of the pommel it had weighed less than you think.

    • @WJS774
      @WJS774 Рік тому +3

      @@jamoecw Are you for real? You think that the overall weight is what the pommel is about? The total weight of the sword means _nothing._ The pommel is to control the point of balance. And it makes a big difference whether you want to admit it or not.

  • @Mikael_Ore
    @Mikael_Ore Рік тому +26

    Yup, very supportive of this project, hope you guys make it and have fun!

  • @tposingukiki
    @tposingukiki Рік тому +143

    Question: what sword would be the closest one to being called “The Throngler”?

    • @m0-m0597
      @m0-m0597 Рік тому +18

      idk but I know about the Shlongler

    • @5peciesunkn0wn
      @5peciesunkn0wn Рік тому +3

      Whipsword.

    • @tposingukiki
      @tposingukiki Рік тому +16

      @@5peciesunkn0wn I was thinking more of an… overly dramatic Flamberge

    • @eliaspanayi3465
      @eliaspanayi3465 Рік тому +1

      ​@tposingukiki it's also really flexible so when you shake it it makes the laminated 'fwubwuwubwbwbwb" noise as it bends

    • @മദ്യപാനം
      @മദ്യപാനം Рік тому +1

      Probably some sort of spiked khopesh

  • @RanOutOfChannelNames
    @RanOutOfChannelNames Рік тому +97

    Oh look, Shad made a Wrongsword.

    • @ilovejettrooper5922
      @ilovejettrooper5922 Рік тому +7

      That has no right to sound as perfect as it does.

    • @mrkiky
      @mrkiky Рік тому +17

      @@ilovejettrooper5922 Even better when you realize that it sounds like a Japanese person trying to pronounce "longsword" 😂

  • @aced4fun
    @aced4fun Рік тому +15

    The Shadoversity intro is still awesome and one of the few intros persisting on modern UA-cam
    I wouldn’t change a thing :D

  • @Joyful_Rob
    @Joyful_Rob Рік тому +13

    The dynamic of the three of you discussing your opinions is the best part of this channel. 😁

  • @jackson01357
    @jackson01357 Рік тому +12

    I love watching Nate be so peeved that he likes it. That's a rare thing, from what I have seen - to see him be so bothered that he likes something weird that he made, or at least helped make. I haven't watched that video yet.
    It brings me joy 😂

  • @IamHattman
    @IamHattman Рік тому +17

    If you're going to try and make a more specific fusion of the Katana and Longsword, I'd suggest checking out the Ask Seki Sensi video where he actually tries some things with a trainer longsword. Just for the feedback from the Katana side of things.
    Off the top of my head, I would suggest trying to machine a mix between the cross guard and a tsuba, likely with a single quillion along the 'true' edge, a rounded central section in the style of a tsuba, but with a notch to accomidate moving to thumb-grip. I think that manages to adjust the guard for the benefits both camps have prefered while also addressing some of potential problems.

  • @mansfieldtime
    @mansfieldtime Рік тому +154

    The next abomination, orientate the cross guard to be perpendicular to the blade at 90*. It sounds like a horror project.

    • @alexmashkin863
      @alexmashkin863 Рік тому +21

      You'll have to invent a completely new construction of the cross guard for that, or just cut quillons off and weld them back the other way

    • @algomez8563
      @algomez8563 Рік тому

      @@alexmashkin863 This is not that uncommon, check sword collector forums for "Frankeswords" you might get many ideas.
      Back 8 to 10 years euro hilts were much easier to come by now it is harder.
      I guess dark wood armory and the Australian medieval fight club are still around, but independent forges are more expensive and cast steel crossguards for the Hanwei Tinker line are not made anymore.

    • @FlexxibleFree
      @FlexxibleFree Рік тому +2

      Oh yeah!

    • @Notmyname1593
      @Notmyname1593 Рік тому +3

      Could be a helluva stabber.

    • @commode7x
      @commode7x Рік тому +1

      So, like what DemolitionRanch did?

  • @drunkardhu6517
    @drunkardhu6517 Рік тому +12

    3:08 Sir Shad, you got it right on the first try. Jian is what we call double edged blade in Chinese. And this particular design with 8 surfaces (or whatever the proper term) is an design from the Bronze Age. Hence the Jian is smaller because blade made of bronze cannot go too long or to large.

  • @BellhenderOfficial
    @BellhenderOfficial Рік тому +5

    Man I love this new content here. Every video done this year has been PLATINUM! Keep doing guys. You are the best

  • @dustingreene8602
    @dustingreene8602 Рік тому +8

    I'd suggest centering the blade and adding a bigger tsuba. It would deal with the foward balancing and add more hand protection.

  • @asahearts1
    @asahearts1 Рік тому +49

    One hand on a 2 hander gives that extra reach when you need it. Plus it frees up the other hand for grapple, pocket sand, whatever 😂
    Incidentally, the jian is typically used with mostly one hand 😂

    • @rohdri
      @rohdri Рік тому +1

      The typical jian also has both a shorter hilt and blade, and is also lighter by a bit. .7-.9 kilos instead of 1.2 kilos. Also, they typically had a pommel, and a different hand guard. Apples to banana/orange hybrid.

    • @DrahcirII
      @DrahcirII 4 місяці тому +1

      I'm now adding pocket sand to my arsenal XD

  • @Hanlix14313
    @Hanlix14313 Рік тому +1

    Love the content and would love to see more

  • @manoz6194
    @manoz6194 Рік тому +52

    I love Nate's character development in this lol

  • @TheMegaOnyx
    @TheMegaOnyx Рік тому +3

    Stretched out gladius is what i think of when i see the sword...

  • @Smooth_Lime_Nine
    @Smooth_Lime_Nine Рік тому +6

    I love to think that at some point in the future Nate will have an 80’s style flash back and a faded shad will echo softly in his ears “feel the blade”
    😂

  • @jjthejetplane8965
    @jjthejetplane8965 Рік тому +1

    I gotta say, the group dynamic is great with you guys. You all seem like fantastic people.

  • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
    @FortuneFavoursTheBold Рік тому +11

    Shad is getting better at this, which is a testament of how much one can improve by actually using swords and reflecting on the usage afterwards.
    I have cut with katana with back-edge techniques like zwerchau and schielhau by temporarily reversing the blade and holding down on the grip while placing the thumb on the grip instead of thumbing the flat of the blade. It works. Slightly awkward but Shad is correct here that on a well balanced nimble sword like many longswords, temporarily having 1 inch point of balance further away may help the cut gain more momentum thus letting the mass of the sword doing more work for you. When you are done with the cut, you immediately hold back onto the the part just below the guard to gain more control. It works with a tip heavy sword like katana, it definitely works with a nimbler blade like the longsword blade (more profile taper and more distal taper).

  • @williampickett5875
    @williampickett5875 Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @ethanwalsh5441
    @ethanwalsh5441 Рік тому +6

    Loved this video and I’m honestly with shad on this. I do wonder if this particular unique sword’s asymmetrical blade may offer different reverse edge cut feelings depending on which side you use in the reverse. I also fully agree with building a sword with a katana styled handle built into a longsword blade profile like this.

  • @JoyBoyAlter
    @JoyBoyAlter Рік тому +1

    Every time I think I'm prepared for Shad's sudden increases in volume, but every time I get my ears blown out lmao. My day is never complete without it

  • @mga149
    @mga149 Рік тому +4

    Finding this sword very fascinating. I'd come up the same concept (a light, fast longsword blade with tachi tsuba) as the weapon for a DnD Monk Kensai character a few months ago. I thought it was just a completely rule of cool fantasy idea, but it seems to performs way better than I thought it would.
    I love how much Nate HATES how much he likes it.

  • @inspectorme4559
    @inspectorme4559 Рік тому

    Please make one with a cross guard!

  • @algomez8563
    @algomez8563 Рік тому +5

    The Hanwei Tinker swords came out around the early 2010s sometimes they snapped at the "shoulders" a possibility they were actually afraid.
    Although newer blades tend to break less.

  • @sim.frischh9781
    @sim.frischh9781 Рік тому +2

    Right now i have that image in my head of Shad, Tyranth and the rest of the crew going to a toy store and pretty much cleaning out their stack of pool noodles for sword testing.
    But the sword has something weirdly fascinating about it. I would like to see it with other kinds of tsuba designs, like more rectengular ones. Those exist, after all.
    This mixing of sword hilts and blades seems to be worthwhile from both a looks and an efficient use aspect.

  • @Maninawig
    @Maninawig Рік тому +4

    Hey Shad and crew, now that Tyranth is making swords, could you guys make/discuss Antonio Banderas' sword in 13th Warrior? Grinding down longsword into a scimitar sounds like a horrible idea, but I would love to hear all the issues one might have with this

  • @ShellworldGames
    @ShellworldGames Рік тому

    More swords!

  • @Kraleck
    @Kraleck Рік тому +14

    It seems to me that the wielder's affinity for strength, speed, defense, or balance pairs better with the handle than the blade. The tsuka of a katana is advantageous in deft hands to allow more fluidity of motion than a hilt with a crossguard, allowing them to strike rapidly (much like Tyranth shows). A strong wielder would prefer the opposite, using a blade's crossguard with a strong grip to brace against an attack then following up with leverage to affect an opponent's balance. Very good show of skills, gentlemen!

    • @Uncephalized
      @Uncephalized Рік тому +2

      Nah, the type of guard has little if anything to do with how fast or fluidly you can move the sword. That has more to do with weight, balance, strength and skill of the user.

  • @lordwarryl5712
    @lordwarryl5712 Рік тому

    I don't even want to watch this video... But for you guys, I will support you in everything you guys do.... Even its unforgivable...

  • @kenwalker5384
    @kenwalker5384 Рік тому +6

    I think the real takeaway from these experiments is that there's a reason for there being so many styles, and sizes of swords is to cater to personal preference!

  • @joycallender6086
    @joycallender6086 Рік тому

    Thank you, gentlemen!

  • @reeceemms1643
    @reeceemms1643 Рік тому +5

    Day something of asking for a video on the misconceptions of Medieval weddings. Such as the engagement (even though I know it was done by the parents), What they did to celebrate, and any interest information.
    I then what to know how these can be incorporated into fantasy stories and TTRPGs. Especially since I recently read my fantasy book where I do touch on marriage a bit.
    These being a Royal wedding set up, the mention of a marriage, and an actual interrupted wedding scene.
    Another thing I want to know is what actually happened to a princess of a kingdom if thar kingdom was taken. Because in my story the main character is forced into marrying the main bad guy. I don’t actually know how accurate that actually is to history though

  • @TheoryMaK15-255
    @TheoryMaK15-255 Рік тому

    Godspeed SHAD!!! ⚔🗡🤺🛡🔰🦾

  • @ankokuraven
    @ankokuraven Рік тому +31

    You have inspired me to try to make my own abomination.
    Funny enough, i want to use the same blade.

    • @rachdarastrix5251
      @rachdarastrix5251 Рік тому +3

      I've been "inspired" to years ago. Its just that when it comes to any form of trade my competitors have somehow managed to get it so that I have no chance of getting a foothold and beginning a profession 20 years before I was even born. So I have to but their products, rough it up a little then finish it with a file, and that way I can lie and say I forged it myself.

    • @algomez8563
      @algomez8563 Рік тому

      This is not that uncommon, check sword collector forums for "Frankeswords" you might get many ideas.
      Back 8 to 10 years euro hilts were much easier to come by now it is harder.
      I guess dark wood armory and the Australian medieval fight club are still around, but independent forges are more expensive and cast steel crossguards for the Hanwei Tinker line are not made anymore.

  • @riftalope
    @riftalope Рік тому

    Damnit! I had JUST sat down and started the video, and Nate up 'n reads my mind!
    Took me a bit to stop the Twilight Zone music and giggling.
    Had to rewind.

  • @lukerogers9348
    @lukerogers9348 Рік тому +4

    I love how defending Nate is when arguing his dislikes for the sword, like he secretly likes it lol

  • @OmegaB3N
    @OmegaB3N Рік тому +1

    Add the cross guard,
    MAKE THE KONGSWORD!!!!

  • @dragortius9335
    @dragortius9335 Рік тому +3

    Really good video and it does make me wonder if the long tana and/or katanar (if that's the name) couldn't be upgraded FURTHER, hear me out
    Double bladed long sword blade: ookatana handle + POMMEL, and a Tsuba/cross guard HYBRID (Don't know if something like that already exists).
    Katana wraps + pins and try to incorporate the endurance of the longsword handle into the handle.
    Edit: ok, sorry, you guys talked about it at the end, more or less, so, YEAH, if you do this, oh boy, happy fan be happy and more fan.

  • @jierdareisa4313
    @jierdareisa4313 10 місяців тому

    I love ALL Shadiversity videos!!!! ❤

  • @andreas_rr
    @andreas_rr Рік тому +41

    i think Lon(g)ken would be pretty fitting as a name. Long is obvious, "ken" basically means "sword" in japanese and is the go to designation when talking about double edged swords in Japan. Also the pronounciation is pretty smooth/neat imo. Idk if i'd write it with or without "g", but if it's with, i'd still keep it silent.

    • @Hei_Darkfire
      @Hei_Darkfire Рік тому +3

      I like the Ken part for sword. But we need a new beginning. Something to mean long, but hopefully something that pairs good with the Ken part of the name.

    • @mrcheese5383
      @mrcheese5383 Рік тому +3

      Klong

    • @sakesaurus
      @sakesaurus Рік тому +2

      If you write it with a g the aussies read it as lonjen. Which sucks, i like to avoid such stuf.
      Although the chinese read this (corresponding) hanzi through j, but that might be reading too much into things..

    • @andreas_rr
      @andreas_rr Рік тому +1

      @@GerdLPluu not bad actually 😂😂😂

    • @mandowarrior123
      @mandowarrior123 Рік тому +4

      'Ken' literally means double edged sword in japanese, whereas '-tō' or katana means single edged (tō, katana, '-nata' or 'waki-' are all readings of 刀 character) possibly knife like in chinese.
      So ken is sword but katana are 'knives' in a sense.
      I like rongu sword myself.

  • @generalcellron2962
    @generalcellron2962 Рік тому +1

    Love these videos just a thought for a name for it, Knight's Anatak (Katana backwards could also be used for the other sword maybe 🤔) and maybe tyranth should make a fusion of a Suba and a cross guard maybe 🤔🧐😁

  • @radimnechut519
    @radimnechut519 Рік тому +3

    Don't know. I really like the look and, from what you guys have said, the feel of both. The falchion kimitana looks like a more _reliable_ sword, in that it has the better cross-guard and a good balance. The langana looks fun and a bit like a _glass cannon_ without the better guard, but being superior in seemingly any other way.

  • @decay79
    @decay79 Рік тому +1

    Am loving the look of the Longtana.. That it performs as well as it does is somewhat of a surprise, but a pleasant one..

  • @williamr.s.5693
    @williamr.s.5693 Рік тому +16

    I’ve noticed you often forget to change the tags from the previous video, maybe double check it next time ;)
    #anime #boomerang
    Anyways really cool testing on the longtana! Or you could call it the abomitana… or abomisword… or abomina…

  • @ehta2413
    @ehta2413 Рік тому +1

    Ship it to Finland, I have a perfect burial place for that abomination on top of ancient fell in middle of nowhere. All that needs to be done is to drill a hole in a sacred square rock, put the sword in and fill the edges of the hole with pebble cement to prevent people from pulling it off the rock. Other option would a small remote waterfall in Northern Norway that has been used as a sacrificial site by local indigenous people in middle ages, the rock altar in there is still bit rusted from all the blood :D

  • @MattWinkler1
    @MattWinkler1 Рік тому +3

    Would love to see you guys wearing medieval helmets / gauntlets as protection against sword damage in the tests. It's what they're made for!

  • @sunilpermaul7876
    @sunilpermaul7876 Рік тому +2

    I think this raises an overall question of, "What happens if you could add the optimal handle (for the user) to a blade?"

  • @itschoiboi
    @itschoiboi Рік тому +4

    For posterity, We need a build video with all the things you hate in a sword. Whether it be the balance is off, the handle being uncomfortable, or the shape of the blade itself, etc...

    • @5peciesunkn0wn
      @5peciesunkn0wn Рік тому +2

      Ah yes. The "Shadiversity Hateful Blade"

    • @itschoiboi
      @itschoiboi Рік тому

      Excellent name 😂@@5peciesunkn0wn

  • @mrt5069
    @mrt5069 Рік тому +2

    I feel like i can listen to Shads arguing about swords for hours.

  • @SukacitaYeremia
    @SukacitaYeremia Рік тому +3

    Seems to me like this has been the toughest sword testing video to digest. I wonder if there can be any way to advance the discussion further and help me understand it better...

  • @Sp33LzZz
    @Sp33LzZz Рік тому +2

    Thank you Tyranth, I will now play a D&D game as a barbarian who purposefully wields two handed swords in one hand and refuses to do otherwise. Brilliant idea!

  • @tmvega8167
    @tmvega8167 Рік тому +45

    Kinda looks like a chinese sword

    • @lexmarovsky6667
      @lexmarovsky6667 Рік тому +3

      Why did these Asians dislike crossguards so much...

    • @lopezroilans.8384
      @lopezroilans.8384 Рік тому +1

      ​@@lexmarovsky6667probably material issues, and/or design issues at the time

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla Рік тому +5

      @@lexmarovsky6667Not sure about Chinese swords, but I think the reason why Japanese swords had the small tsuba was so it’d get caught less on stuff during a speed draw (iaijutsu). I know when Seki Sensei tried out the longsword, it got caught on stuff a few times despite him praising the extra hand protection. As far as I know, there’s no equivalent to iaijutsu for European swords.
      Much the same way a lot of handguns modified for quick draw will have all their edges smoothed out for the sake of a faster and smoother draw. Sometimes they’d go so far as to remove the front sight entirely, making it far less accurate at long range but a much smoother draw since nothing would snag.

    • @1stCallipostle
      @1stCallipostle Рік тому +1

      ​@@gameragodzillaI feel like it probably wasn't a purposeful omission like you imply.
      I more imagine that once the "I don't wanna cut my own hand while stabbing" bit was figured out, they were satisfied and didn't think twice about it.
      Much the same way as the west never thinking "I should optimize a sword for quick drawing"
      Don't feel the need to change, and you probably won't.

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla Рік тому

      @@1stCallipostle Well there are still reasons why they went with some particular design, and even the Japanese did modify the nodachi and tachi into the eventual katanas in later periods when there were more sword carrying on foot and swordsmanship became more self defense oriented than battle.

  • @vinvirusx
    @vinvirusx Рік тому +2

    "Sagishi" would be the perfect name for that sword. Japanese for "imposter," imagine someone having it on the battlefield like, "oh a katana... wait a minute..."

  • @morrigankasa570
    @morrigankasa570 Рік тому +4

    Imagine a Khopesh Blade with a Crossguard Hilt?
    Imagine a Dane Axe with a Katana Hilt?
    Imagine a Halberd Head on a Hand and a Half Hilt?
    Finally, imagine a "Crow's Beak" with a One-Handed Haft?
    (Edit more ideas): A Basket Hilt on a Mace, A Spatha Hilt on a Claymore, A Mace Haft on a Spatha Blade, A Double-Edged Scimitar on a Rapier Hilt, A Scimitar Hilt on a Rapier Blade.

    • @GranWarlorckEnmaryu
      @GranWarlorckEnmaryu Рік тому +1

      @Morrigankasa570 or a Gladiushilt/guard with a khopesh blade

    • @1stCallipostle
      @1stCallipostle Рік тому +1

      I feel like that last one exists to some degree.
      A comically long Katana handle with a Dane axe head though... That would be a sight

    • @morrigankasa570
      @morrigankasa570 Рік тому +1

      @@GranWarlorckEnmaryu That would be neat.

    • @morrigankasa570
      @morrigankasa570 Рік тому +1

      @@1stCallipostle Yep, and what makes it even more interesting is it expands things beyond just swords made into "Abominations".
      Another idea I thought of after my first comment. Was a Spear Haft with a Kopis on the end. (Kopis is the Greek Version of a Khopesh).

  • @adamwest8256
    @adamwest8256 Рік тому

    Wish you could have been a guest on Administrative Results! They were testing english long bowes against armor.

  • @Fallenangel_85
    @Fallenangel_85 Рік тому +4

    It's actually not that unusual to have such a sword design, it's been done historically.
    The korean Sain-Geom is smaller, but it combines the double edge with a tsuba like guard.

  • @skiveman
    @skiveman Рік тому +1

    I have a name for the sword - Shad's Shame. A cursed name for a cursed sword.

  • @NickCombs
    @NickCombs Рік тому +13

    The longtana looks to be overall better when compared to the longsword. It's got a faster tip and better reach with the longer handle. Even longer when wielded one-handed (looking at you, Shad).
    The addition of a crossguard (but not a pommel, sorry Skal) would be nice, but given the other benefits of speed and reach I don't think your hand is at as much risk overall. So that detriment seems like more of a wash.

  • @davidhim3527
    @davidhim3527 Рік тому

    I just love Nate's reaction every time was a disappointed "God damnit, it did great..."

  • @billysmith5409
    @billysmith5409 Рік тому +3

    The “Longtana” looks like something I would build on Calimascil. I want to hate but I can’t.

  • @Blue_Oysters
    @Blue_Oysters Рік тому +1

    Is there any chance of Shad playing Chivalry 2 on Knights Watch? I can just imagine him saying the crenellations aren’t tall enough as his he’s getting decapitated by a Dane axe.

  • @FireCrack83
    @FireCrack83 Рік тому +3

    I Just wanted to Go to sleep. Now i have to watch a Video about one of shads weird sword dreams😅

  • @rendarcrow
    @rendarcrow Рік тому

    I love it and want one properly made but with my tweak and a cross guard. you must perfect this monster
    shad is absolutely right about the profile of weight

  • @Megabidoof83
    @Megabidoof83 Рік тому +3

    If you're already making abominations, why not make a tsuba, that is a bit bigger then normal tsuba's, with openings so you can finger or thumb the blade but still retain the classic look of the katana hilt? (on a long sword or katana)

  • @magnusliten8807
    @magnusliten8807 Рік тому +1

    FEEL THE BLADE

  • @gallendugall8913
    @gallendugall8913 Рік тому +3

    Might I offer a term to describe bladed weapons that are not historical, "stabulator"

    • @kingmasterlord
      @kingmasterlord Рік тому

      how does one stabulate?

    • @Sam-lf3hn
      @Sam-lf3hn Рік тому

      What about a "hackulator" or a "sliceulator"

    • @manoz6194
      @manoz6194 Рік тому

      How about McStabby?

  • @loma-ep7ne
    @loma-ep7ne Рік тому +1

    The advantages of the longer ha'dle reminds me of a very cool weapon that in french we call "la coutille". It's basicly a one handed sword on a stick to make it the coolest spear you can find. I love it and I'd love to see you test one

  • @EksaStelmere
    @EksaStelmere Рік тому +3

    Once more, I'm gonna suggest Longutō (ロング刀) and Longuken (ロング剣) for the name. As with before, I'd personally go with the latter, but since it's TECHNICALLY using a Katana handle, the former might work even if it's double-edged.

    • @lildragon6415
      @lildragon6415 Рік тому

      Ken makes more sense because it is double edged.

    • @EksaStelmere
      @EksaStelmere Рік тому

      @@lildragon6415 Pretty much, yeah, but it's something of a meme, so doesn't matter too much.

  • @JanterCyrano
    @JanterCyrano Рік тому +2

    13:34 the instant regret of success....

  • @danjacobs6219
    @danjacobs6219 Рік тому

    Omg these guys were entertaining.

  • @ace_of_laze
    @ace_of_laze Рік тому +1

    i am with Nate on this one. cursed and soulless

  • @Ghostly_FilmProduction
    @Ghostly_FilmProduction Рік тому +1

    Next is the Axe handle with sword blade, and vice-versa

  • @FaceEatingOwl
    @FaceEatingOwl Рік тому +1

    This is like Top Gear, but for swords 👌⚔️✨🤘❤️

  • @ultrajn
    @ultrajn Рік тому +1

    I want to see two handed saex and how its going cut and handle.

  • @eliwarner3434
    @eliwarner3434 Рік тому

    I love the chemistry here it’s so funny😂

  • @T.BG822
    @T.BG822 Рік тому +1

    It's always a good call to disbelieve Shad when he claims something is against the natural order. Good job, assistants.
    The extra leverage and general commentary has me thinking these guys should commission a blade with Witcher proportions, see what they think of a short, wide blade and a long handle.

  • @ShrockWPS
    @ShrockWPS 2 місяці тому

    Watching this back just shows me how much I've missed Nate being on the channel.

  • @NamedMyTaco
    @NamedMyTaco Рік тому +1

    Longtana is the BEST name! Nate is a Longtana prodigy! 😂😂😂

  • @CapnMadelyn
    @CapnMadelyn Рік тому +1

    idea! combine both guards and bowl the katana one into the crossguard

  • @alexderkombinator3385
    @alexderkombinator3385 Рік тому +1

    Cool combination! Katana and longsword!👍

  • @ultimatedrift8549
    @ultimatedrift8549 Рік тому +1

    I wanna see you guys talk about the jian soooooo bad! It's my favorite sword of all time

    • @RighteousBeard
      @RighteousBeard Рік тому

      Yeah, Shad is late to the Chinese sword discussion

  • @scottcarroll3017
    @scottcarroll3017 Рік тому +2

    Name suggestion. Swordy Mcswordface.

  • @VoidDragon82
    @VoidDragon82 Рік тому

    “It’s called a skill issue” ooooooo the burn clinic was busy that night!! 😂😂

  • @lampyrisnoctiluca9904
    @lampyrisnoctiluca9904 Рік тому

    😊 I love watching my fellow geeks and nerds enjoying themselves. It does not matter what kind you are. Only thing that matters is people being happy over something weird, unusual or nerdy.

  • @daniellegammon967
    @daniellegammon967 Рік тому

    hey, I was one of the first ones to suggest Longtana in the first place, so I'm all for it lol

  • @TheCaniblcat
    @TheCaniblcat Рік тому

    ~7:53 Dammit Shad, this was the perfect opportunity to say "You must unlearn what you have learned" 🐸

  • @paulrichardspencer
    @paulrichardspencer Рік тому +1

    I've had a random thought on the tatami mat thing....
    Had you considered using a hemp mat of similar construction, it would provide a very similar cutting resistance whilst being considerably cheaper and putting it in an affordable price bracket.
    Hope that helps in some small way. 😊

  • @FaceEatingOwl
    @FaceEatingOwl Рік тому +1

    😂 The ribbing is real.

  • @LMLR187
    @LMLR187 Рік тому

    You should have Tyranth revisit this sword by addressing the "flaws" and correcting them whilst trying to maintain the overall design. One example may be to change the shape of the tsuba to a larger, oval shap with ample sized gaps that allow your thumb to go through.