Why SO Bad?! The Mistercraft IL-2M3 Sturmovik Plastic Model Kit in 1/72 Scale - Build & Review

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  • @karimhammam9105
    @karimhammam9105 Рік тому +18

    Look please I know its just a model but please fix the polish markings. The red corner always top left

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +12

      that's interesting, whilst the polish marking has the red corner top left today, it would seem that in all the resources I can find online it was top right in soviet use
      edit: i also can't "fix" them now they are stuck on the model

    • @Adi3111
      @Adi3111 Рік тому +6

      Hello Matt :). Polish insignia had red square top left from 1918 till 1993. From that year there is white square and red is top right. It may be a bit confusing;). The true is there there were some planes with white top left. They were mistakes made by pilots or technicians expecially in the first years. Also polish planes in France (1940) had such unofficial insignia at the hull.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +4

      @@Adi3111 it is certainly confusing

    • @mixererunio1757
      @mixererunio1757 Рік тому +3

      @@ModelMinutes It not confusing. You only need to try at least looking up on wikipedia page. Part of scale modelling is trying to achieve accuracy, so if you're not even trying you are doing it wrong.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +6

      @@mixererunio1757 I did look it up, all the resources for il2 in polish use that I can see online have them as I depicted in this build… it’s mentioned that they changed it after 1991 in another comment

  • @25hanusia
    @25hanusia Рік тому +40

    I'm from Poland, and I'm ashamed of this company😭 This is an old ZTS model from the 1980s. But we have better, modern ones, such as Arma Hobby, IBG. Build these.

    • @dpswets
      @dpswets Рік тому +2

      I've done several ZTS kits and most are way better! Especially love the RWD series of aircraft and the PZL fighters. Also done the Javelin and Hunter.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +2

      Yeah I think I talk about that in the video?

    • @jaws848
      @jaws848 Рік тому +1

      ​@@ModelMinutesMisterkit /Misterkraft.....i need a beer for this Mat.🤣🤣🤣

    • @marcblank3036
      @marcblank3036 Рік тому +3

      These kits are almost for free in most shops in Europe so to expect something good would be naive. Excellent for starters to learn some basic skills before moving on to nice quality kits

    • @jaws848
      @jaws848 Рік тому

      @@marcblank3036 some of their kits are actually okay...the problem is that most,if not all,are reboxings of other companies toolings so you dont know what you are buying....i built 3 of their SU-17/20/22 kits and they were fine,built 1 of the Hawker hunter kits and it was fine....their Fouga Magister is a straight up reboxing of the Heller kit but on the flipside the Mig-29 and Sabb Draken kits from them are AWFUL.

  • @gwin2719
    @gwin2719 Рік тому +4

    I had this as a kid and I’ve got to take my hat off to you for pushing through, I sure didn’t 😂

  • @andygorman858
    @andygorman858 Рік тому +4

    For an absolute balls of a kit you shave managed to make a smashing looking model! I feel I need to try and make this kit…..if I can find it! Great vid!!

    • @marcblank3036
      @marcblank3036 Рік тому

      Most of their models have similar issues. Great for experimentation of skills but tough for good results. I have got their Su17/22 as well. Exactly same issues

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +1

      Good luck!

    • @marcblank3036
      @marcblank3036 Рік тому +2

      @@ModelMinutes it should be a sub division at contests. Who can get the best for the MrCraft award

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +1

      @@marcblank3036 love this idea 😂

  • @ShuttleFactoryScaleModels
    @ShuttleFactoryScaleModels Рік тому +1

    I am sorry to hear that you had a lot of problems with this kit. However, in the end you did turn lemons into lemonade. Or a bad model kit into a decent looking completed kit.
    Also, extra praises must be given for making you own decals. Even though you had a bleeding issue, when you used Micro Scale Decal Film, on the sheet. Good to see that spraying the sheet in matt varnish worked for you. Hopefully we will see you make more custom decals in the future.
    Anyway, I hope you have a very Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year, Matt. And hopefully there are no more Mistercraft kits waiting under the Christmas tree for you. I do not think you need the stress of making another one!

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +1

      Happy Christmas to you too!
      I'd be interested in doing some more custom decals in the future, but would need to figure out a suitable subject for them

  • @ukaszbadura5670
    @ukaszbadura5670 2 місяці тому

    Great job on this old kit. I just built this one myself.

  • @Payne2view
    @Payne2view Рік тому +1

    I wonder how many of us at 1:38 were thinking "No, don't cut towards your fingers!" and expecting you to remove the top of your left forefinger?

  • @anthonylichfield3540
    @anthonylichfield3540 Рік тому +1

    Happy Christmas mate to you and yours all the best mate 👍 🎄🥳🎁🎅

  • @epicforger12345
    @epicforger12345 Рік тому +1

    You made this kit look good, if it was me I probably would have binned it
    Merry Christmas

  • @andraslaszlo8739
    @andraslaszlo8739 Рік тому

    Hi Matt, interesting video on dealing with rubbish kits. I bought a Mistercraft Hurricane MkI which had the Hispano 20mm cannons moulded into the wings. Talk about getting their research completely wrong; it didn't even resemble the picture on the box art. I will use it as a test bench for airbrushing/ washes etc.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  11 місяців тому

      mistercraft kits are reboxes of other brands, so it will be the original company that messed up the design. Usually it is these lower quality kits that mistercraft rebox because they are cheap

  • @ricky4k743
    @ricky4k743 Рік тому +1

    This is a model kit...
    Don't know where to start to improve it, until would fit my expectations. I guess in the end I would have replaced the whole kit :P

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      lol yeah, i was tempted to just chuck this out :P

  • @brianartillery
    @brianartillery Рік тому +1

    Wow. That makes the ancient Airfix IL-2 (which I'm rather fond of, being one of the earliest kits I ever made) look the epitome of sophistication. Sorry, but it's true.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +1

      lol i did think that the old airfix version would make this one look bad haha

  • @kajetanpietruszewski8217
    @kajetanpietruszewski8217 Рік тому

    "Tomek do wozu, matko boska gówno ożyło." Great work!

  • @paintnamer6403
    @paintnamer6403 Рік тому +3

    Interesting video on dealing with poor quality kits. I can tell I had an easier time building the old Airfix Sturmovik kit years ago.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      Yeah, sometimes I think it is important to show people that it is ok to build bad kits :)

  • @Dwarvious
    @Dwarvious Рік тому +1

    This is one of those kits that you ought to have just binned I think and I wouldn’t say that lightly. I hate the idea of wasting a kit but this may be one of those that just isn’t worth the time and attention.
    Kudos for trying your up most to build it so we didn’t have to

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      Thanks, at the very least I hope it was an enjoyable video 😊

  • @bradywomack9751
    @bradywomack9751 5 місяців тому

    I have the eduard kit in my stash and I intend to detail it to the max. It’s a very nice kit.

  • @CrazyChemistPL
    @CrazyChemistPL Рік тому

    I think what you are supposed to do with the propeller axis is put it through the round back piece without glue and use a heated up flat screwdriver or a blade or something similar to squash the end of the axis poking through, creating a sort of plug and allowing the propeller to rotate inside the round piece.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      yeah, this was mentioned previously in another comment but I dont think that it was annotated in the mistercraft instructions. Seems like a "dangerous" solution though when they could have just included one extra part for that on the sprue

    • @CrazyChemistPL
      @CrazyChemistPL Рік тому

      @@ModelMinutes That's how ZTS Plastyk usually handled propellers and often wheels in their models. It isn't specifically mentioned in the original ZTS instructions either, but it is a technique they mention on the main page of the instructions as one of general directions how to approach a kit.

  • @Dagoradic
    @Dagoradic Рік тому

    You can make propeler spin: put this circle behind propeler without glue and then melt sticking out shaft with something hot. Then glue the circle to fusulage.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +1

      yeah, apparently that is a method according to earlier commenters

  • @hueyJoe135
    @hueyJoe135 Рік тому +1

    You've done a great job with that model 👏.
    All companies have their rubbish models.

  • @dpswets
    @dpswets Рік тому +1

    I've done this one as well... And have to agree on everything! Yours looks good though!

  • @matthiastellschaft-stachow1694
    @matthiastellschaft-stachow1694 11 місяців тому

    I know this kit from when I was a kid in the 80s. To get a kit at all those times was a question luck. There weren't any modeling shops then. If you got luck, you could get kits at the newspaper selling points (called kiosk RUCHu in polish). There was only a limited choice of models, sometimes some Soviet or GDR ones. This special kit had a trick in the assembly. You had to warm a knife to melt the axle of the spinner after you put it into the ring. It worked and you could then glue the ring into the model. Afterwards you could spin the propeller.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  11 місяців тому

      thanks for the info! That is an interesting story :)

  • @SelfRaisingWheat
    @SelfRaisingWheat Рік тому +1

    I love the yellow!

  • @wadejustanamerican1201
    @wadejustanamerican1201 Рік тому +1

    I think im really going to have to pass on this kit lol. Have a Merry Christmas!

  • @wojciechkoska3515
    @wojciechkoska3515 Рік тому

    This is a kit issued in 1983, when the idea was that company provides the base, and modeler has plenty of Putty and files and sanding paper. First editions didn't have lot of flash. Back in the day it was eagerly awaited kit since Airfix offering had issues with shape and measurement. Sad part is that the kit is still offered without information of it's vintage. I remember building it in mid 80's. I'll send photos when I find them. Propeller , you supposed to flare the shaft with hot knife to make it rotate. Good, old modelling.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      seems like a strange idea, to offer a really basic kit and expect the modeller to fill in the gaps. Sounds like "justifying" making a sub-par product to me

    • @patrickray2757
      @patrickray2757 Рік тому

      @@ModelMinutes Things were different 40-50 years ago, though, and the OP is right about the even older (1964) Airfix Il-2. I've built them both back in the day and although this ZTS one is crude it's far more accurate. The chord of the Airfix wings and tailplanes is way, way too small. Not their fault, they did their best with what little information was available at the time on Soviet aircraft and at least they were prepared to have a bash at a very significant type. I think I paid around a fiver for this kit in the late 90s. I wasn't impressed but I was far more annoyed when I bought the Revell Merlin-engined Halifax that was released in 2011. Beautifully moulded but shamefully, eye-catchingly inaccurate despite abundant reference material.

  • @mason9077
    @mason9077 Рік тому

    What is the brand for that custom decal film you used?

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +1

      umm, not sure. Just some generic type i got off amazon some time ago

  • @jaws848
    @jaws848 Рік тому +1

    I built 1 of their Draken kits and while the instructions DO show instalation of a full cockpit interior they are NOT included so there is NO cockpit tub,NO control stick,NO instrument pamel and NO ejection seat.also built 1 of their Mig-29s and the canopy was the completley WRONG shape.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      yeah, the instructions like to make the products look really detailed lol

    • @jaws848
      @jaws848 Рік тому

      @@ModelMinutes exactly...you end up looking for a part that eithet does not exist or if it does it looks nothing like the instructions .

  • @robi3081
    @robi3081 Рік тому +1

    Are you doing a best and worse 2023 video Matt?

  • @Simon_Nonymous
    @Simon_Nonymous Рік тому +5

    Oh my goodness that looks awful right from the start Matt, and you've only just opened the box. Good tip using a white base for yellow (or indeed red) if you want it to look good.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, this may well be the worst kit I've built this year

  • @pawelpw1161
    @pawelpw1161 Рік тому

    Done this several times under oryginal brand ZTS Plastyk, design in general fits its era, however mould quality is terrible, everything is wong. You can try vintage Heller kits repacked by Smer or Mistercraft ad you willspot massive difference. Both Mistercraft and Smer will have crappy instructios, but Smer offers quite decent decals. Hellers from '70s are mostly fun to build. I am just building Heller's Hawker Tempest by Smer, and it hase similar parts count like this IL2 but it really goes smooth.

  • @sandwitch1613
    @sandwitch1613 7 місяців тому

    Hey Matt, since you definitely don't have enough folk correcting you in the comments, I decided to throw my own critique in as well:
    Vallejo should be read in Spanish and pronounced 'Vay-ekh-o'.
    I only discovered this after using the paints for two years, so no worries.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  7 місяців тому

      I’ll probably still say it wrong because I struggle to remember things like this 😂
      I don’t even try to say German words because I’ll butcher them …

  • @VFCproductions
    @VFCproductions Рік тому +2

    Mistercraft always seem to re-work the instruction sheet, only to then give it stupid errors... WHY?!

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      lol yeah, they were kinda all over the place

    • @pandaphil
      @pandaphil Рік тому

      I get the feeling they designed the instructions before the kit.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      @@pandaphil or designed the instructions without looking at the kit

  • @foszasty
    @foszasty Рік тому +1

    I did it in the early 90's when it didn't have that much flash. 🙂
    Generally - typical MisterCraft quality.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +1

      yeah, its a shame that they dont keep the mould quality as high

  • @MrocznaGwiazda
    @MrocznaGwiazda Рік тому +1

    I Suggests to try the most "difficult"/worst model from the ZTS Plastyk 002 RWD-14B Czapla ( A nightmare from Polish primary school and a subject called artistic and technical classes ) I managed to put it correctly once 30 years ago, 2 years ago I tried again and Failed. Without 0.5 vodka I will not try again ;)

  • @ScaleModelAdventures
    @ScaleModelAdventures 5 місяців тому

    And what about this company compared to Heller?

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  5 місяців тому

      from my limited experience of Heller kits, I find their mouldings to be better and their decals don't disintegrate

  • @antonyd6649
    @antonyd6649 3 місяці тому

    The decals disintegrating in water is just so absurd to me like what?? Was this common for old kits of other brands too?

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  3 місяці тому

      This is a Mistercraft problem - however they make their decals they don't use enough carrier film which results in them just falling apart

  • @alexeveryman5080
    @alexeveryman5080 Рік тому +2

    If I remember correctly for spinner shaft you are supposed to melt its end of with heated up knife.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      hmm i dont recall seeing that in the instructions, but it seems like a likely reason. Still a bit of a weird step

    • @alexeveryman5080
      @alexeveryman5080 Рік тому

      @@ModelMinutes This was in ZTS Plastyk instructions if memory serves, Mistercraft probably could not add it since children+hot knifes=not a good idea

  • @willm5032
    @willm5032 Рік тому +1

    It's boxing day and I'm with my inlaws, watching you suffer. Merry (almost) Xmas

  • @ukaszbadura5670
    @ukaszbadura5670 Рік тому +1

    I built this model when i was a child more than 30 years ago…. It brings memories

  • @verjiniamilanova3107
    @verjiniamilanova3107 Рік тому

    I have a couple of mistercraft kits myself and i have yo say not the best but foes the job thay lack a bit of detail but defenetly normal for there price

  • @sheriff0017
    @sheriff0017 Рік тому

    That ShKAS is grievously overscaled. 12.7mm size, 7.62mm firepower.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      lol, they are just making sure no one goes near the tail :P

  • @JerryP7a
    @JerryP7a Рік тому +1

    Great job considering how awful mistercraft stuff is, always fun to see Polish service stuff too B)

  • @sarumite
    @sarumite Рік тому

    I got a mr craft kit.... It was all flash, though for very little cash. I just can't bring myself to build it!

  • @JohnSmith-sl1my
    @JohnSmith-sl1my Рік тому +1

    Why are hobbycaft saling these kits at a higher price ?. They should be sold at 4 pounds no more

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +1

      Probably because they want to make a profit and bring the products online with the other brands they sell so that the unsuspecting customer will purchase them

  • @argentinianspotter
    @argentinianspotter Рік тому +3

    You really need to stop self punishing youself by buying subpar kits.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +3

      😂 yeah, don’t worry, I’ve treated myself to some nice guys for 2024

  • @billwright2811
    @billwright2811 Рік тому +1

    Great job.

  • @thebunkerparodie6368
    @thebunkerparodie6368 Рік тому

    mistercraft rebox heller kits, but it's better to get the original heller kits for the better decals

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      i think the mould quality might be a little better from Heller too

  • @OgrabliatorKorovanov
    @OgrabliatorKorovanov 4 дні тому

    There s only one 1/72 model of il-2 - it's Tamiya. Comparing to it other kits are just toys

  • @2013dodge_chargersrt8
    @2013dodge_chargersrt8 5 місяців тому

    You should a budget challenge and your budget is £20

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  5 місяців тому

      what would I need to get for £20?

    • @2013dodge_chargersrt8
      @2013dodge_chargersrt8 5 місяців тому

      @@ModelMinutes any thing as long as its with in the budget

  • @Duster_33
    @Duster_33 Рік тому +1

    Just by looking at this kit ,it looks horrible, nevertheless another great model minutes video

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +1

      thanks very much!

    • @Duster_33
      @Duster_33 Рік тому

      @@ModelMinutes I got a 1960s tooling of a 1/32 zero , checked the fit, it's decent, wish me luck with it

  • @Aardvark-dk
    @Aardvark-dk Рік тому +1

    MisterCraft kits are torture for the modeller :(

  • @mates9816
    @mates9816 Рік тому

    Yeah most mistercraft kits are pretty bad there are some that are not that bad imo like their p-51 but i think it is fair for the price their are being sold i think they are good if you want to try out some new technique like weathering or varnish or some painting techniques they are perfect for it since they are cheap but actually building it and displaying it hell no

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      I built their P51B a few years back, it was better than this but still had issues

  • @gregormacgregor2366
    @gregormacgregor2366 11 місяців тому

    In the late 70's this model was produced by a Polish company; ZTS PLASTYK. So the moldings are almost 50 years old.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  11 місяців тому

      pretty sure the age of the tooling is mentioned in the video

  • @TS-STORM
    @TS-STORM 7 місяців тому

    i aint buying another mistercraft kit again

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  7 місяців тому

      They are a bit inconsistent

    • @TS-STORM
      @TS-STORM 6 місяців тому

      @@ModelMinutes i noticed lol i had the L4H Piper Cub at the moment its resting in an unfinished state till i muster up finishing it lol but im painting Yellow or Red and ditching the camo army look as simply cant be bothered i got a 1:32 Harrier GR1 and a 1:48 i think F18 top gun and a load others waiting lol

  • @bradleyhatchen
    @bradleyhatchen Рік тому +1

    Matt that kit was horrible everything kind of look boxy detail was poor fit was bad like the canopy was kind of out shape and kind of cloudy not clear plus the gaps were bad fit issue landing gear was very poor I would think they would add some polit tube to the wing thank for info on this kit matt I'll buy the Tamiya kit

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      lol yeah, definitely worth looking at an alternative

  • @ElzbietaPyrak-q2q
    @ElzbietaPyrak-q2q 17 днів тому

    Ładny

  • @modelmagic9930
    @modelmagic9930 Рік тому

    Save yourself the trouble and buy a better quality IL-2 like Tamiya or the Zvezda kit.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      Yup

    • @VFCproductions
      @VFCproductions Рік тому

      I have the Zvezda one and can confirm it is a representation of the IL-2... It's alright

  • @АндрейШмырев-ж3з

    Пластик от Микро 72 ...польская была фирма...🤔

  • @JoseTorres-z6k
    @JoseTorres-z6k Рік тому +1

    Amazing finish despite being a turd of kit

  • @BennyCFD
    @BennyCFD Рік тому

    Matt............You're a much better model builder than this. If you'd taken your time it would have come out better. A good builder can make even a poor kit look good. A good build is a result of time and attention to detail.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +2

      I could have spent weeks working on this kit, but what would be the point?
      As mentioned a lot in the video, I just wanted this out of the stash so I could buy better kits, hence why this is a “back to basics build”

    • @Lv-sl3rm
      @Lv-sl3rm Рік тому

      Perhaps but when your starting point is so poor then there's only gonna be so much you can do to make it better. Diminishing returns and all starts coming into play hard with kits like this.

  • @Rich77UK
    @Rich77UK 4 місяці тому

    That humbrol adhesive looks awful. So much goes everywhere like I recall the old tubes doing...I need a little line....nothing, squeeze a bit....nothing....squeeze some more....nothing...just a tiny squeeze..blurp. I have just covered my ENTIRE panel in glue...AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH

  • @arghons.hobby.workshop
    @arghons.hobby.workshop Рік тому

    This model isn't complete. Designer of this kit died during work and this is a like prototype.

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      apparently so, according to other comments

  • @warmerthread983officialcha9

    I love how They have copied Italeri packaging

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      how so? The artwork looks completely different as far as i can tell

    • @warmerthread983officialcha9
      @warmerthread983officialcha9 Рік тому

      @@ModelMinutes the artwork, but look the upper parte of the box

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      hmm i'm not so sure it is "copying" - i mean how many places are they going to put their information? So mistercraft and Italeri have both got some bands across the top to put their text on . . .
      other brands have had similar styles in the past, i just think there are only so many places to put the info on the box and they just have a similar way of doing it at the moment @@warmerthread983officialcha9

  • @jakeswallow877
    @jakeswallow877 Рік тому

    I got the mister craft hunter and god it was awful

  • @scudwerfer
    @scudwerfer 5 місяців тому

    Guys - dont by MisterCraft-Kits! they are a big lie in a too expensive box...

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  5 місяців тому

      I think YT bugged and didnt leave my comment - the best Mistercraft kit I have experienced is the fairey fulmar

  • @ModelsbyMe
    @ModelsbyMe Рік тому +1

    Nice build and review of a poor kit

  • @MsEliasc
    @MsEliasc Рік тому +3

    ..aweful, yes - aweful modeler!......

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому +2

      not seen any of my other builds?
      Edit: - sorry, thought you were calling my model building skills "awful", but on re-reading i realise now that you meant that you were full of awe! So thanks very much for being aweful of my work :)

    • @VFCproductions
      @VFCproductions Рік тому

      Is it a model? Yes. Oh...

  • @petehyde1540
    @petehyde1540 Рік тому

    Tamiya is a better kit....

    • @ModelMinutes
      @ModelMinutes  Рік тому

      i think anything at this point is a better kit lol

  • @datamek
    @datamek Рік тому

    This is old ZTS plastyk sprues, tooling from 1980 ties.... So no tamiya quality here...

  • @simonbaker6962
    @simonbaker6962 Рік тому

    Awful. Just really awful,