American/Soviet Respirator Drinking Tube System - RAGE!!!

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  • I get very angry at the awful drinking tube system designed by America that the Soviets ripped off to use on their masks.
    In all fairness the American system is probably made with better quality parts and quality control, but regardless the system is flawed at the design level, and it makes me very angry even attempting to demonstrate it on camera.
    This video will hopefully answer the question for people who want to know, why I prefer masks without drinking tubes, I've ordered a British army canteen and an Avon lid for it, so I can demonstrate the S10 and FM12, I hope that goes better than these masks.
    A PMK flask was used in the video, masks demonstrated were the Soviet PMK, Czechoslovakian M10m and the American MCU-2AP.
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  • @Weaponsandstuff93
    @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +51

    Oh and by the way, I know you are meant to suck on drinking straws to pull the water through, but the design is still bad.

    • @danijellukic2196
      @danijellukic2196 6 років тому +1

      Make my design and show to people , it's still better than this american thing . . .

    • @danijellukic2196
      @danijellukic2196 6 років тому

      Idk dude

    • @angrydrawings3910
      @angrydrawings3910 6 років тому

      My GP-7 can remove 3 out of the 5 easily, but the bottom two are different.

    • @angrydrawings3910
      @angrydrawings3910 6 років тому

      snark567 it is possible, I just don't want to have to put it back on.

    • @angrydrawings3910
      @angrydrawings3910 6 років тому

      snark567 yeah, that is weird.

  • @NanoBurger
    @NanoBurger 6 років тому +44

    The proper use of the drinking tube requires you to blow into the tube to introduce air into the canteen. The pressure will force water into your mouth through the tube. You can also help by squeezing the canteen to force water into your mouth. I assume the Russian canteen works the same way as the US version.

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +16

      It should but the Russian canteen haemorrhages water around the seal due to the quality of Soviet parts in the late 1980s.

  • @j.d.ethridge2162
    @j.d.ethridge2162 6 років тому +57

    Does the Soviet canteen contain asbestos?

    • @thetupolevtu-1602
      @thetupolevtu-1602 6 років тому +14

      yes
      No it doesn't but if are to use it just clean before use

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +36

      No but mine has some sort of horrid mould on the inside.

    • @stanleynickjedrzejczyk4533
      @stanleynickjedrzejczyk4533 6 років тому +9

      Een Matka Rossiya, green asbestos canteens are made een Chernobyl, and dey dreenk from YOU!

    • @wojtekepecki5774
      @wojtekepecki5774 6 років тому +2

      maybe just clean it 🤔🤔🤔

    • @rxleurn
      @rxleurn 2 роки тому +1

      it contains vodka.

  • @ComradeSov
    @ComradeSov 6 років тому +21

    Why the british small mammals poster?

  • @incognitoanonymous3706
    @incognitoanonymous3706 6 років тому +14

    Never managed to drink any single drop of anything through my GP-7v, I squeezed and pressed so hard that I managed to somehow make the rubber of the canteen fail and somehow break the mechanism...

  • @alex-yq8hb
    @alex-yq8hb 6 років тому +8

    I never knew that drinking tubes even existed, interesting how people thought about hydration while gasmask is on even though it is flawed.

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +5

      In theory they are a great idea and some masks do have good systems, my Avon canteen connector has arrived now so I can test my S10 etc with the hydration system.
      The big problem with drinking tube connectors though is how quickly a lot of masks were rushed to take them, for example the American and Soviet systems would work far better if the canteen lid had a straw in it that went to the bottom of the bottle, that way you could suck the water out without holding the canteen upside down.

  • @corey7067
    @corey7067 6 років тому +23

    This channel deserves more subs/views

  • @joeyenochs9469
    @joeyenochs9469 6 років тому +5

    The Czech M10M has an extremely similar system but with a very hard to use plug on their plugs. You should try using one of the Czech canteens with the plug the mask comes with.

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +3

      I have a Czech bottle cap, dunno if it will fit any of my canteens.

  • @erander7879
    @erander7879 6 років тому +6

    Russian on canteen was saying 0,75 litre that's pretty much it and nice video as usual.

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +6

      Okay thanks for the info, shame they didn't design a stronk Soviet bottle.

  • @idontknowwhattonamemyself1694
    @idontknowwhattonamemyself1694 6 років тому +4

    I don't know if you were doing this for the PMK, (I can't vouch for the others) but to drink from it, you have to push the connector into the canteen adapter while sucking on the mouthpiece on the inside the mask to drink without problems. Feel free to correct me if you were doing that already, but yeah, it is a weird design

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +2

      Read my pinned comment, I know that's technically how it's meant to work but the connections are really dodgy, half the time water flows around the tube not into it. The issue is as well, for the flow to work properly the bottle needs to be upside down, as the drinking straw doesn't go to the bottom of the canteen, while holding it upside down the connector will keep falling out.

  • @lol_hoppy7355
    @lol_hoppy7355 3 роки тому +1

    Drinking straw help, sucking on the straw full create a vacuum so if you blow air into the canister for water the water will flow.

  • @lewisarthur6778
    @lewisarthur6778 6 років тому +4

    I was waiting for a drinking tube video I wish that it was a bit of a better system. Nice video tho

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +2

      When my Avon one comes we'll see if that's better.

  • @liamshannon3106
    @liamshannon3106 4 роки тому +2

    I have accomplished getting a wet mask 😂 that’s amazing

  • @freeblins8288
    @freeblins8288 6 років тому +2

    merry christmas

  • @Jay_Mac1775
    @Jay_Mac1775 3 роки тому +1

    I need to get a gp5m so people can hear me😂

  • @5yearsago5yearsago29
    @5yearsago5yearsago29 4 роки тому +1

    What about the 4a1 straw

  • @professort88bilka57
    @professort88bilka57 6 років тому +3

    Also with my gp5 I found one on amazon and it had no talcum power or the soviet filter

  • @kingofthetigers
    @kingofthetigers 6 місяців тому

    Oddly enough commie Czechoslovakia managed to make a decent drinking tube system.
    Well at least the one on my M10M

  • @FoxkerLandsss
    @FoxkerLandsss 3 роки тому

    Here I have one question .. We all know that the water inside from the straw is not completely dried after use. After a long time, moss will grow... That kind of military gas mask How to deal with the remaining water in the drinking pipe after it is used.. How can the hole be cleaned if it is too small... Or everyone doesn't need to clean it up?... Just leave it?
    I don’t want my PMK to taste like fish pond... I hope it can be answered

  • @lappbricks3995
    @lappbricks3995 6 років тому +2

    Is storing gas masks in boxes ok?

  • @gavina777
    @gavina777 5 років тому +1

    you own a pmk s?

  • @raymondbailey1970
    @raymondbailey1970 6 років тому +1

    Hey Liam i have my soviet mask with a camelback to connect to my tactical vest your right them little canteens aint worth the hassle.so i have camelback with 3ltrs of water on the vest,inside the vest i have a bivvy bag and an orange space blanket where the plates go the mask just hangs there ready for use anytime.The bottle holder on the vest i have a solar,wind up radio and 2-2way radio`s.

  • @jerrylancaster256
    @jerrylancaster256 6 років тому +4

    Maybe use the right canteen on the mcu

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +1

      It's a universal connector.

    • @jerrylancaster256
      @jerrylancaster256 6 років тому

      You still may get better results with an american canteen they tend to have better ade canteens

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому

      As mentioned in the description, I know it's better quality but it's still a bad design, I have my Avon drinking cap coming soon which should be far better.

  • @Ascariedeus
    @Ascariedeus 2 роки тому

    Czech M10m, I have to push the mask hard to my face to be able to reach the straw.

  • @meismagiic4779
    @meismagiic4779 6 років тому +1

    The American canteens seal a lot better to the drinking tubes.

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +1

      Yes but it's still a poor system compared to the Avon version.

  • @hisroyalelitis9047
    @hisroyalelitis9047 5 років тому

    drinking vodka dude

  • @SillyWilly02
    @SillyWilly02 6 років тому +3

    Hey do a video about gas mask hotdogs

  • @thepanzer9355
    @thepanzer9355 6 років тому +1

    my shalon 4a1 has a drinking tube and I'm wondering if it's even safe to drink through.

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +2

      It's safe to use but I'd advise spitting the water out a few times in case anything nasty is in the tube before actually drinking from it.

    • @thepanzer9355
      @thepanzer9355 6 років тому

      Weaponsandstuff93 alrighty thanks

  • @westongraham1030
    @westongraham1030 6 років тому +1

    I've got an old Zivilschutzfilter and they look very similar to I think it's the Israeli gas mask. However on those ones they have a little bit on the right cheek. What is that?

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому

      Do you mean the mask? I'm pretty sure a filter doesn't have writing on the mask.

    • @westongraham1030
      @westongraham1030 6 років тому

      Weaponsandstuff93 Yes I meant the mask, the filter says Zivilschutfilter 68. The mask itself looks similar to the Israeli kind. However on my mask it's missing a bit on the cheek. It looks like some sort of exhale valve but I'm wondering if it's an Israeli mask or not.

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому

      No it's most likely a German civil defence mask from the 1950/60s, but you could have a random filter paired with a random mask.
      See if it's a mask from this list.
      www.gasmaskking.com/german-gas-masks

    • @westongraham1030
      @westongraham1030 6 років тому

      Weaponsandstuff93 Okay from what I can tell that's what it is, thank you. It didn't appear to be on that list though. Maybe I was looking in the wrong area but it wasn't under the German category. Thanks for the help though and keep up the good videos!

  • @kelvinpasswaters8180
    @kelvinpasswaters8180 3 роки тому

    I have both a M40 and a MSA millennium and both of the drinking tubes always rub against my lips and face. It’s one of my big pet peeves on the millennium the tube won’t swivel so I can’t move it

  • @ascendedfashy9632
    @ascendedfashy9632 6 років тому +1

    Why not use the Soviet canteen? Just wash it and good as new

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому

      Because there's some nasty stuff under the cap, mould maybe.

  • @professort88bilka57
    @professort88bilka57 6 років тому +1

    Nice vid and thanks for the info above

  • @qauuqjjouqouuj2989
    @qauuqjjouqouuj2989 4 роки тому

    poor mcu

  • @bigturn1051
    @bigturn1051 6 років тому

    apparently the pmk 2 has the same shitty facepiece, so it also has that shitty inner mask

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому

      So I've heard, you can just swap the filters around, the GP-9 is better in most ways ironically than the actual military mask.

  • @tthkkkkk
    @tthkkkkk 4 роки тому

    Is the Shalon 4a1 drinking system good?

  • @erwinmuller1266
    @erwinmuller1266 3 роки тому

    Yeah i have a american canteen and it works fine with my m40 and it uses the same system like the mcu2p so its the canteen what isnt good

  • @vj3137
    @vj3137 6 років тому

    Don’t be mean, the drinking tubes tried their best to work properly!

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +1

      Let's see how my Avon system works when I do a video on it.

  • @bobafett5812
    @bobafett5812 5 років тому

    Why cant u drink with it

  • @ednamirasty7240
    @ednamirasty7240 6 років тому

    Where or how to get gas masks publicly I'm not talking about online if your confused or something

  • @colecappola9461
    @colecappola9461 6 років тому

    The American system has a way better design. It has a rubber seal that the tube plugs into. It stays in place. I just bought a American canteen to test it.

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому

      Yeah I heard that, sadly my US canteen doesn't have the correct cap.

  • @angrydrawings3910
    @angrydrawings3910 6 років тому

    I think that getting a masks for a drinking tube is kinda pointless. I know I'm never gonna use one, if I get a mask with a drinking tube, so I don't see the point.

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому

      That's my thoughts on them, they are a weak point in the mask if you have no intention of using it.

  • @nathanc.8821
    @nathanc.8821 6 років тому

    So are industrial ABEK-P filters essentially NBC filters? Can they protect against nerve agents such as VX?

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +3

      I've answered that before but Yes, if you want more details search ABEK on my channel and look at the videos where I explain it.
      Nuclear and Biological threads are stopped by the Particulate filter (P), chemical threats are stopped by a vapour filter, ABEK covers about 95%+ of normal chemical threats.

  • @BigBosley
    @BigBosley 6 років тому

    CT-12s are harder to find over here than FM-12s. The drinking tube gets in the way and annoys me. I really hate the drinking tube port on my Izzy M-15. I use a hose so the filter doesn't get in the way of my rifle, but the damn drinking port is on the right side and sticks out so far it screws up what would just about be as perfect a cheek weld as you could get with a mask. They did the same thing on the Shalon 4A1. WTF?

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому

      It's so it's easy to stick the thing in your mouth but yeah, CT12s are harder to find than FM12s anyway because they were made in smaller numbers for armed police/SWAT/Special forces etc who want a very basic but competent mask.
      With both the S10 and FM12 you should be able to adjust the lever so the drinking tube is out of the way, you're meant to cut them to length as well, I hated the drinking tube on my S10 until I cut the end off, now it swings out better and is easier to grasp with my mouth.

    • @BigBosley
      @BigBosley 6 років тому

      I might trim it, but the way the FM-12 rotates out of the way it never really bothered me from the inside, but it does seem like an unnecessary potential ingress point. I'm tempted to cut off both ends and plug the holes and melt the rubber over on the ends for a good hermetic seal. As a civilian I'm never going to use the tube, and I'm critical of the military's (or AVON's) motivation to keep it in the design. I mean if you were in the Gulf War and seeking protection from well fires and needed hydration because you were holding position I could see it. If under attack with Chem/Bio agents it makes sense to displace rather than risk contamination from drinking. It’s like the US Military is fond of saying:” There’s the right way, the wrong way, and the Army way.” I’m sure that’s true of most militaries, but what do I know, I'm an Accountant?

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому

      I'd agree for the most part with you, I'm not a big fan of them due to as you say far more risk of contamination etc.

  • @floodstreet2961
    @floodstreet2961 6 років тому +4

    I have an Idea for a way to eat while in a gas mask, theres a box somewhere in the front of the mask that opens and when it closes it creates an airtight seal. There is another door on the inside that can be opened and then the food can be eaten but this wouldn't work in environments where the foodwould be contaminated if it came into contact with the air

    • @okkid7311
      @okkid7311 6 років тому +1

      To fit much in, itd have to be quite bulky

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +9

      Why not just have liquid food in a canteen.

    • @ChucksSEADnDEAD
      @ChucksSEADnDEAD 6 років тому +2

      Forget about the food being contaminated, if your airtight chamber had to be opened to let food in, then contaminated air would enter as well. As soon as you opened the second stage to take a bite you'd be doomed.
      Considering how long filters are supposed to last in contaminated areas, you could probably just suck it up and face the hunger. Thirst has a higher priority.

    • @floodstreet2961
      @floodstreet2961 6 років тому +1

      Weaponsandstuff93 didnt think of that, now I feel dumb

    • @raymondbailey1970
      @raymondbailey1970 6 років тому

      use baby food in the canteen lovely man.

  • @airsoftgamer1252
    @airsoftgamer1252 6 років тому

    I got the exact same canteen but the rubber in it was rotted and hard a plastic so it wouldn't create a seal, do u know any canteens that have the same canteen nozzle/cap that the gp7 can attach to preferably a modern one

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому

      I'm pretty sure American canteens up until recently used this system.

    • @lunashumaker8315
      @lunashumaker8315 5 років тому

      I have a Czech canteen that and my m10m came with the gas mask canteen lid and it seals just fine

  • @thefutureispasta2076
    @thefutureispasta2076 6 років тому

    Great video!

  • @tthkkkkk
    @tthkkkkk 5 років тому

    Good thing i didn't buy gp7v

  • @r8them84
    @r8them84 6 років тому

    Are there any gas mask with 3 filters?

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +1

      I think there's a couple that have 3 filter ports and blanking plugs.

  • @gweril816
    @gweril816 6 років тому

    I can send you m10m canteen

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому

      I already have the M10m connection cap, I have a feeling I can attach that to at least one of my canteens.

  • @christopher-2000
    @christopher-2000 6 років тому

    cool gas mask video

  • @jort93z
    @jort93z 6 років тому +11

    Do the russian canteens work with vodka?

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому +4

      They "work" with any liquid.

    • @jort93z
      @jort93z 6 років тому +3

      you are right. Calling that "working" is a little bit of a stretch.

    • @oliverfasola19
      @oliverfasola19 4 роки тому

      Vodka exclusively

  •  5 років тому

    Love this video

  • @andrestafur2973
    @andrestafur2973 6 років тому

    Those russians really did weird things hah

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому

      Make a crap copy of a dodgy drinking tube system. It's a shame as I imagine the Russians would be very good at designing a simple but effective drinking system.

    • @andrestafur2973
      @andrestafur2973 6 років тому

      Weaponsandstuff93 yea, but what's the year of the mask? We must take attention to variables

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому

      Late 80s, the PMK 1 masks are normally bad as they were made around the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union, similarly my GP-7 doesn't take filters properly because the GOST thread on it has been poorly machined.

    • @andrestafur2973
      @andrestafur2973 6 років тому

      Weaponsandstuff93 i agree, it seems like they just wanted to make them faster and cheap, just like the canteen your showing us

  • @kitkatcampbell9204
    @kitkatcampbell9204 6 років тому

    I have one of those canteens it is 💩 crap don’t buy

    • @Weaponsandstuff93
      @Weaponsandstuff93  6 років тому

      Mine came free with the mask, I wouldn't have payed for it.

    • @kitkatcampbell9204
      @kitkatcampbell9204 6 років тому

      Weaponsandstuff93 I thought it would be good but nope old tech,thanks for replying though this Chanel should have more subs keep it up