River Pump Build and Test part 3

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  • @thomasnoteboom1531
    @thomasnoteboom1531 3 роки тому

    I saw this back in the 70s, used 1/2 tube for the pickup tubing and yes the blades were tapered as you say iam at part 3 now keep up the good work. Thomas Noteboom

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  3 роки тому

      So far i never did get this to work. I had the makings of a much bigger version but used the barrel for another project.

    • @akbychoice
      @akbychoice 2 роки тому

      @@LandtoHouse spiral on a vertical water wheel would work great with that much water and flow. More to build but rather simple and use polypipe.

  • @dondrivdahl9765
    @dondrivdahl9765 4 роки тому

    Have a look at at spiral water wheel. I built one with 44 feet of hose on either side of the wheel, it was 40 inches tall, and would produce 6.5 psi with only 40 inches of height, it would raise water to about 14 feet above the creek. I then pumped into a five gallon bucket, and could separate the air and water, and ran it into a 6.5 gallon water heater out of a trailer, and then from the fire into a spiral under my tent, and would have hot water or hot air under my mattress. It worked great. Don Drivdahl

  • @76irodriguez
    @76irodriguez 9 років тому +1

    Fantastic project you got here. I'd like to share a tip with you about gluing PVC. Technically is not really gluing, but more like welding. The chemical used as a glue melts the PVC so that both pieces melt together. For that to occur properly and achieve a better bond you need to apply the glue to both pieces, not just one side. I notice you only applied it to one side. It might work ok, but the bond might fail. I don't think it will fail for this project, but if the PVC is used for it's intended purpose (delivering water to a building under pressure), it can come lose and you'll have water all over inside the walls and building. Also, for PVC larger than 2" in diameter it is recommended to use a primer to make sure the bond does not come apart.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      Thank you again for the great tips. I had heard about the melting and bonding of the pipe. I will start connecting pipe with both sides coated. Most of my pvc work so far has not exceeded 25psi.

  • @goldbunny1973
    @goldbunny1973 5 років тому

    With your 5 toe shoes I'm thinking you're very in touch with your inner caveman : ) I do love this type of Project because we all automatically think Filler Foam, Hot glue, modern (often toxic) materials, and, I love the irony of building a pump by tossing a load of plastic bottles into a river.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  5 років тому

      haha yes those shoes are funny. The use of bottles seemed like a good idea. I dont think that they were enough to get the unit floating high out of the water.

  • @foothillsreadiness
    @foothillsreadiness 8 років тому

    What about taking the swivel off of the paddle side(hard mount hose here with brass fittings) and moving your swivel point up stream to a fixed pumping/anchor point. This would give you the ability to always keep the pump wet, centered in the current by triangulation and service your pump line on shore.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  8 років тому

      +Foothills Readiness I have actually scrapped this design. In a few weeks I will be testing the new design! Videos to come of course.

  • @willwade1101
    @willwade1101 4 роки тому

    For the screen first you should have spread the screen onto a piece of paper then put the jug in the pipe. Once that was done put epoxy on the edge of the large pipe and set it down on the screen so that the epoxy pushed through the screen. Once the epoxy dried you could strip off the paper from the end. After that then trim the screen to fit.

  • @billybobbussnesman6011
    @billybobbussnesman6011 9 років тому

    I made a a6 inch ramp pump out of steel tube .tested it from a 30 ft section of 3 inch pic pipe and a garden hose..it jade a 5ft head..it empty a out in 15 seconds..it claims up to 20psi..then I made two 2" check valve ram pumps just like yours.. (12psi each)I plan on using all 3 to fill the tank..the 6" steel ram pump is impressive.but not creek tested yet..this project is take ing for ever...lol. Thank you for your input..I have some nassyers for this project..but I think it will work..I tested my turbine on my garden hose at 30 psi = 19 volts open Circuitfrom bridge rectifier..

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      +billy bob bussnesman This does sound like an ambitious project but I think its well worth trying! So have you tried connecting a nozzle to the end of that massive pump to pressureize the delivery? you might could get some voltage from that. I gave it a test with the 1-1/4" pump and got over 4volts with only 6' of head. Just a thought but you might have some potential. .... I have a feeling that your tank is going to empty much faster than you can fill it. SO you will be alternating the electricity production and filling .

    • @billybobbussnesman6011
      @billybobbussnesman6011 9 років тому

      i have not hooked the hose to the turbine yet due to it completely empty the system in 9-13 seconds,i need a water fall to keep the pump and the water line full,lol,when the 3'X6' gate opens it releases about 2-5 gallons(guessing) but when the gate slams shuts WOW..the whole pumps moves ...psi jumps up 7-12psi every closing..it only shuts twice due lack of water supply..my house water hose can not fill line fast enough..i will take pics,,not very pretty..lol,but pressure holds ok,,except the pvc pipe tank..going to replace with steel bladder tank..im also doing a tred mill motor wind turbine project,,tested it..40-170 watts on a diversion load controller from charging battery to GTI....now all most ready to in stall...this works better then the piece of crap gugu 500 watt i bought..9 watts...lol..ill send pics

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      +billy bob bussnesman I just got your pictures! Your projects are all coming along well! Seems like they are all close to done with the build stage and ready for the long test. I was wondering how much psi you would get from a 6" pump. I have seen the professional builds that are bolted down to a concrete block and I am thinking that you will have to do the same here. Gosh 9 to 13 seconds! How many GPM is that? .... Someday I will bring out my treadmill motor and buy some blades for it. we just dont have much wind around here.

    • @billybobbussnesman6011
      @billybobbussnesman6011 9 років тому

      i cant accurately estimate the psi until i can get a constant water supply..ill hook it up next summer..

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      +billy bob bussnesman That is what I am thinking about my water projects too. Its getting cold.

  • @imnobody4522
    @imnobody4522 7 років тому

    I see an improvement. Make your output tube (the 2 inch), water tight, so none of the water gets into it. then you could run multi pipes around the form increasing the output water flow rate. And your tube ends don't need to be inside the 4 inch, just secured to the pipe. you couls also add a small flare to the pipe inlet to increase capture.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  7 років тому

      I have a design in the works with a 55gal drum. It will be a lot different and should work.

  • @fmtelevison
    @fmtelevison 6 років тому

    You need to shape your fan blades like a propeller on a outboard motor to cause less drag! And more motion.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  6 років тому

      Yes indeed. But for a very first test they did okay

  • @billybobbussnesman6011
    @billybobbussnesman6011 9 років тому

    I have watched your channel ..you have a lot of great ideas..I have used some of your ram pump ideas but did them a bigger scale..I bought a 2300 watt 3 phase water turbine.i have a fast movining creek 800 ft behind my house..I need figure away to get water to a 2300 gallon tank that is up 20 ft in a tree ..so I can use 2inch hose and gravity to run turbine..any ideas?

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      +billy bob bussnesman Thank you! I like to share what I am learning. That is a large tank in a tree! So a 2" pipe gravity pressure can pull 55GPM easy. (Might be a lot more) that means you will empty that tank in less than 40min. If you had a single ram pump pumping water 1gpm it would take 38 hours? Is my math right? SO you would need several pumps to make this faster. If you could make a good bit of power in 20 to 40 min I suppose its worth it. I have thought about doing something like this too just to test it out. The time it takes to re-fill a tank is the thing that always gets me.

  • @tommyschauer3093
    @tommyschauer3093 9 років тому

    Wonderful work. Looking foreword to # 4.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      Thank you. I am getting info for part 4 but it might be a little while.

    • @tommyschauer3093
      @tommyschauer3093 9 років тому

      Hi
      It is me again. I just reviewed your #1
      river pump vid. I thought you had 3/4 "
      clear raped around the pump, it was only 3/8".
      I think you need bigger like 3/4" gulping water. I think That will get you about 5 times as more water pushing. Then using 3/8" or 1/4" for the lift hose you should get about 5 to 7 feet of lift (or more} from the river. Good luck.
      P S Marry Christmas & Happy New Year

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      +Tommy Schauer Ah yes its only 3/8" When I was buying the stuff to make this project I wanted to keep things under $100 (because I am not a wealthy man). The 3/4" tube was expensive and they only have a little of it. I am going to add a tube on the end of the 3/8" as a funnel first to gulp more water and air. Then Next I am going to add a smaller clear tube as the delivery. I think shrinking the delivery will help with the small input. BUT you are right it would be good to have a larger input tube. I was thinking that I heard a value that goes something like this: the lift is = to the number of coils in the pump x hight of the pump. So if the pump is 6" and there are 30 wraps its would be .5'x30=15'. So I might be able to get up to 15 feet one day when the pump is working at its best. We shall see haha

    • @tommyschauer3093
      @tommyschauer3093 9 років тому

      How about part of the garden hose in side the pump. I understand not wealthy. Keep up the good work. Have good time with your family this Christmas time.

  • @hsabrano3729
    @hsabrano3729 9 років тому

    Great experiment again. Adding a one way valve (the small aquarium type) somewhere at the end of the clear tubing may improve the flow? You should test with the priming procedure too.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      Thank you. That is an interesting idea! I will have to give that a try. Priority 1 will be getting a swivel joint that holds pressure.

    • @hsabrano3729
      @hsabrano3729 9 років тому

      The swivel joint you could mod? Just grind away the threads that tightened the hose?

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      After inspecting the swivel a bit more thoroughly I realize that it relies on a washer to be airtight and it must have that pressure from the threads. I've been browsing the web for a real swivel joint that's not $200 haha

    • @hsabrano3729
      @hsabrano3729 9 років тому

      +Land to House Maybe this swivel joint? goo.gl/wFQTiF

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      I actually had that idea too! I asked around and got one of these that someone did not want but the issue was the 90 degree bend. ... a couple days ago I filmed part 4 and was able to get some much better results. I think i will post this Saturday.

  • @bartonrobinson4266
    @bartonrobinson4266 9 років тому

    Well we all know the story of the Wright Bros...There first attempt nearly made it, keep the faith I think your on the right track..or stream..or whatever floats your Pump..lol..Happy trial and error, yea and Thanks giving too !!

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      That's right! NC is first in flight. We might be first in pump. Lol. I have sent an email to a company that has swivel couplings. We shall see if they work.

    • @bartonrobinson4266
      @bartonrobinson4266 9 років тому

      I'm hoping that will work, thinking of building one per your final outcome. Looks like a very usable unit for off grid or other without power pump use. Might try it and see if I can get one to "Float" and "Pump"..Thanks Seth and Have a Happy Thanksgiving, you and yours !!

  • @PidasianHippie
    @PidasianHippie 9 років тому

    You are improving it with every new adjustment you make. Did it pump any this time?

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому +1

      +Pidasian Hippie It came close but then I realized that the swivel joint was stopping it from pumping. It has a leak when its not tight enough. So there at the end when I tightened it it did not swivel. I have contacted a company asking if their swivel was going to work.

    • @PidasianHippie
      @PidasianHippie 9 років тому

      Land to House I hope this company has what you need.

  • @shawnclay4641
    @shawnclay4641 7 років тому

    If it had the same size tube on the pump and delivery hose, the air will push the water higher.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  7 років тому

      I have a new design that will use a garden hose as the spiral pipe and delivery. So they will both be the same. We shall see how well that works

  • @christopherstaples6758
    @christopherstaples6758 8 років тому

    pontoon float by gluing on end caps onto some PVC pipe ??

  • @edwardwilcox6712
    @edwardwilcox6712 9 років тому

    looks good
    i need to make one now

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      We just need to find a good swivel coupling.

  • @haynerbass
    @haynerbass 9 років тому

    I found some swivel couplings but youtube won't let me copy and paste the site address. I just googled swivel couplings and found a company named Acklands Grainger. They are based in Canada but this is sent out with free shipping. I can try to source something in the Satates if you like.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      Interesting. That might work. Some of those are not too expensive. I just emailed a company to see if their product will swivel even when the hose is tight.

  • @johngodwin7902
    @johngodwin7902 9 років тому

    Good Work

  • @alllivesmatter9671
    @alllivesmatter9671 7 років тому

    drill a small pilot hole and use two or three stainless screws rather than glue for easy access

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  7 років тому

      +all lives matter that is a good idea. I am totally redesigning this pump right now. I'd like it to be done by next month.

  • @brandonmathews9280
    @brandonmathews9280 7 років тому

    What about using a foam noodle

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  7 років тому

      That might work. I think that it was just too heavy in general. My new design should be out soon.

  • @alllivesmatter9671
    @alllivesmatter9671 7 років тому

    one more tip with a heat gun you can make p.v.c. do just about anything

    • @alllivesmatter9671
      @alllivesmatter9671 7 років тому

      I forgot to mention I think heating p.v.c.makes it somewhat brittle

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  7 років тому

      +all lives matter from what I have heard there is a fine line between heated to pliable and cooked.

  • @albertguti23
    @albertguti23 8 років тому

    why not to put a lid ? instead of filling it. theres gonna be air inside if u put a lid on it.

    • @albertguti23
      @albertguti23 8 років тому +1

      thats a really good job, getting ideas, well done. thats what we need, creative people. not slaves of a system

    • @albertguti23
      @albertguti23 8 років тому

      i think the tube could go outside (tuve ( SPANISH SPEAKER) ) so u could use a lid for floating, n the tube would be outside still getting water. there are wheels like pelton wheels, with tubes around it

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  8 років тому

      My new design has a closed system inside that allows the lid to make an air tight fit like you say. I am about 1/2 done with that build. The weather is too cold here to get in the river to test. I see that a river pump can be purchased for several hundred US dollars and that is just too much! I would like to make a DIY model that is $50 or less.

    • @albertguti23
      @albertguti23 8 років тому +1

      Land to House id like to do the same thing here, cos here is a tropical country, many people live far from towns, n hace rivers n wind, but dont know how to use them, bad thing is i have no money really, no job as a pilot yet, im making just 10 dollars day, its been hard. hope u keep the hard work . thx so much for answering

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  8 років тому +1

      I also have limited funds to make lots of tests. My wife and I are having a baby and that will take a lot of our funds. BUT I want to be able to make things like a river pump. If I can do the research and let others build it for themselves I will feel accomplished. I hope that you can build a working model too! So far this test did not work as I hoped but it gave me some great info.

  • @haynerbass
    @haynerbass 9 років тому

    Can't help with the swivel coupling but it occurs to me that hitting your local dollar store for some ping pong balls would be just the thing for filling up the smaller diameter pieces of pvc pipe with air tight floatation devices.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      +haynerbass That is a good idea! I will have to use those when part 4 comes along.

    • @haynerbass
      @haynerbass 9 років тому

      +Land to House Happy to help.

  • @billybobbussnesman6011
    @billybobbussnesman6011 9 років тому

    I'm gonna feed off ur success and failures from your river pump..lol if I have to have 20 ram pumps I'm gonna make it work..lol there is a spot where water is leading into the creek from a small lake..I put a 5 gallon bucket under the falls ..it takes 15 seconds to fill it...as of right now the water turbine project is on hold due to I live in Michigan and it's all ready cold..but I will educate my self on this mater..and your projects are doing this..I have 5 acres of woods and have plans to put a small cabin in it..I will post some of the tests of the 6 inch ram pump..

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      +billy bob bussnesman You gaining success is why I make videos! 20 ram pumps would be a tad on the loud side. You might wake the neighbors but it would be worth it haha. I know what you mean about cold. It has only been down to the low 20's this week here but in the day it has gotten up to 50 and 60 but that water is still very cold! I would love to see the 6" ram working!

    • @billybobbussnesman6011
      @billybobbussnesman6011 9 років тому

      this sucks,,lol i cant find the video but i will take a pic of it...if i can keep it feed with water it will work great and i estimate it gaining up to 28-40 psi...i might need to redo the pressure tank to a shallow bladder tank..the pvc pieces keep failing..but realistically i think the 6 inch and the two 2' ram pumps will do the trick..and maybe your river pump as well...now my concern is getting the 3 phase water turbine power the 800 ft to the power station by my house then rectifying to 12 volts to battery bank..any ideas on this matter?

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  9 років тому

      +billy bob bussnesman I bet that 6" pump is hammering hard. PVC would break under that type of load. I like the 1-1/4" pump because the brass valves are not that expensive. 800 feet is a long way. I am going to install a midnight solar 200 classic for my tiny house. It can handle high voltage and lower amps so that it can travel a long way. But by long way I mean 115 feet. I assume you would want to have high voltage so you would have minimum loss if your system. ... I am actually just getting into solar and thus power generation. I am not the best for advice at this point. I think this time next year I will know a lot more.

    • @billybobbussnesman6011
      @billybobbussnesman6011 9 років тому

      sounds great...i have 24 solar panels up..12 are 100 watts ..they are on my house(sun tracking)..they are charging 10 deep cycle battery's..when fully charged they switch over to grid tie inverter.that system pushes 600-700 watts into grid.i caught a road commotion auction and got ten 70 watt solar panels,this system is just to grid tie this is out in the open...450 watts from 10-3:30pm =2,250 watts on a sunny day..on a nice cool sunny day my total system creates 1000 watt,about 60-70% efficient..putting up a wind turbine now just waiting on some parts...

    • @billybobbussnesman6011
      @billybobbussnesman6011 9 років тому

      i watch all your post...u have some great idea's...

  • @dannygill5147
    @dannygill5147 8 років тому

    BUBBLE WRAP>THE LARGE TYPE

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  8 років тому

      +Danny Gill I think that I will be using spray foam in the next design. That way it will stay in place. The bubble wrap might come out.

  • @fmtelevison
    @fmtelevison 6 років тому

    And get some waders so you don't get pneumonia.

  • @stevedawson4781
    @stevedawson4781 3 роки тому

    I just can't believe how unprepared you are when you go to the creek for a test. After all that time in the shop, you show up for the test with no tools, no boots, ice in the tubing, nothing to hold the gadget in place, etc. I am not impressed.