Everyone is acting like he is having this very horrible season and starting to doubt him. Like he has 29p in 34 games on that absoulute ass of a team. + he is starting to heat up. I think he still finishes around point per game.
30 in 35 as a 19 year old on a bottom 3 team in the league looks pretty damn good to me. He was never going to be Crosby or McDavid cause of the physical attributes. Think Kane with a better shot is more likely
@@Kyle-rq1yn That's a very good way of putting it. I know he was a generational producer in junior's but I don't think he has nearly the skill level due to physical limitations of actual generational talents.
Yeah I can’t help but be a bit underwhelmed by this too. Even with poor linemates and roster I would expect a little more in his sophomore season. He has the exact same amount of shots on goal as rookie Celebrini has despite Celebrini playing 10 fewer games.
@@ThatGuyAlex69 I mean MacKinnon is not a generational talent. He took four years to get elite and while he's great now he's not a once in a generation player. Draisaitl and Matthews are at least his peer. McDavid is the superior player over the course of each career. That's not generational
This video already didn't age well. Bedard has 10 points in 8 games under the new coach. If he continues at this pace, he'll have 89 points for the season as a 19 year old on a pathetic team.
All of last year, watching him for the hawks, I had a feeling he was more of a playmaker than a goal scorer. He’s genuinely the right handed Patrick Kane in the making. And I think he’s hurting from the hawks front office not recognizing that he needs a goal scorer that is a genuine threat to play alongside him. If he did, the other team would have to defend him differently. Right now, the strategy is to just smother him and cover the shot lane. And he’s been very vocal about how he won’t shoot if it’s not the right play, which with how he’s defended, rarely is shooting the right play. He needs to use his linemates, but his linemates make a lot of dumb plays that don’t work with him. It’s frustrating as a hawks fan seeing this. Also, he, analytically, has a very average shot. And is a very average skater, which most top players are elite skaters. He really needs to work on that. His first 3 steps are some of the worst in the league, he hardly builds up any speed.
This video is a lot more negative than the Celebrini one but it’s worth noting that Bedard is still a generational talent. Time will be the biggest tell of just how impactful he is on the history books.
He's really not. Generational talents don't develop - they're already developed. The go straight to the NHL and skip the farm team for a reason - they are ready. Bedard is not. He refuses to play a 200 ft game. He leaves the zone early. He floats around. He has a great shot, but goalies and Dmen have figured his one move out. He's a good player, but he ain't no generational talent.
Do ya think he'd do this in Vancouver? if Chicago received Petey plus prospects. I AM wondering if he's gonna go to Vancouver for cheap instead probably after his contract year the next year after then be generational in Vancouver wouldn't that piss Chicago fans off he'd be a public enemy to the hawk fans lol.
I think we’ve honestly de-valued the meaning of “generational talent” over the years. It literally means once in a generation. They are above even “franchise/elite talent”. These are extraordinary players who literally take over the league once they step in and have an “it factor” that separates them from the elite level class. Look at Crosby with his insane IQ of the game since he broke into the league and McDavid who’s a class above everyone in terms of his speed and being able to make high quality plays while at full speed to his will. All Bedard has shown is his shot and even then he isn’t all that spectacular. He is definitely a franchise level talent. I’d say you could compare him to someone like Auston Matthews. But he is a class below the top, top dogs.
Richardson had them playing way too passive, and Bedard has 11 points in 9 games since Sorensen took over. Small sample size, but a good sign. Subjectively, you can see that he's been a completely different player the last couple weeks under Sorensen. As a Hawks fan, I'm terrified that Richardson's "system" stifled Bedard's development a little. It seemed like his goal was just to make sure the Hawks weren't getting blown out every game, but the offense just didn't exist. Between that and the line shuffling, the whole team full of new players is just starting to build chemistry 30 games into the season.
When your top 6 high danger passes per 60 include Pat maroon Criag smith and Joey Anderson in it no wonder he can’t score he has no one to work with. This Blackhawks teams just sad. As a 19 year old myself I couldn’t imagine what that man’s going through rn.
the problem is that he is not living up to the hype and expectations should be tempered. He is nowhere near generational and having a faceoff percentage of 31 is just unacceptable.
So Connor Bedard seems to have in regular-season play cooled off a bit on the point production. last season he put up 22 goals among 61 points over 68 games, resulting in respective averages, rounded to the nearest 0.001 point, 0.897 and 0.324. Nail Yakupov, who like Bedard was picked first overall by his NHL Draft team, put up in his rookie season 17 goals among 31 points over 48 games, translating into respective per-game averages of 0.646 and 0.354. Yakupov, during his sophomore season, scored 11 goals among 24 points over 63 regular-season games. Bedard, over 35 relevant games this season, has scored nine goals but: - before the February 4 Nations Faceoff, should at least equal, during his sophomore season, the 11 goals that during his sophomore season, Yakupov scored - has already: - assisted on almost as many goals (21) as during his sophomore season Yakupov put up points (24) - put up, in non-preseason play, put more points (30) in fewer games (35) than during his sophomore season Yakupov (24) ever did (63 relevant games) Bedard may not yet be a superstar, but he sure isn’t looking like the bust that during his sophomore season Yakupov would end up being well on his way to becoming.
Loved this video. Very well put together and analyzed the topics most people don’t notice when watching hockey. Awesome how you laid out the things he can work on from an analytics standpoint as well. Cant wait for more big head videos in the future!
Hey thanks for putting these out! I really enjoy your content all around and the Sharks videos helped me bring my partner into the fandom and understand the tragic Sharks legacy.
Spot on on the facts, yes hes slumpy now but he's learning and still developing he will get their at full potential. Right now baby steps and reinforcements are coming from our pool of prospects patience will pay off
Conner Bedard player comparison maurice richard. Mack I'd say Steve Yzerman. I watched Mack game recently the Edmonton one when he did that stupid deke in ot was dumb rookie mistake but he gives me chills if he hits his ceiling. He's Franchise Player so is Bedard but they aren't Generational Talents. Tiers Generational Talent >>Franchise Player >>Elite >>Core Player >> Role Player.
Richardson’s line shakeups and the overall (lack of) talent really hurt Bedard’s confidence. His skill set out of the box was good enough to be a difference maker. In the NHL it’s not. And I agree that he needs to work on his face offs. We were spoiled by Towes’ willingness to improve his work at the dot, and he did it quickly. He needs someone to look up to because he’s clearly frustrated trying to be Jesus in Skates.
There was a LOT of doubt about Bedard leading up to the draft. I think many people were just looking for hope since the last generation has still failed to save their teams from cup droughts. We're tired of Sid and Ovi being the megastars & Matthews and McDavid being hyped up as the next big thing for a decade. McDavid and Drai are going on 30. 😱
Very interesting that a 19 year old is slower than he was at 18. Curious if he went vegan, or is overtraining, or is fighting some injury. He’ll come around though, no doubt. He’ll be great, generational talent is asking much of anyone though. That’s not a title to apply haphazardly
Simply put: He was the most over-rated hockey player of all time. We heard about him more than 10 times the amount that we did when McDavid was coming into the NHL. It got to the point where most of us were just tired of hearing about him and here we are now and he is just an average number one pick, nothing more. Right now he is sitting at 9 goals in 35 games and they said this guy was going to be one of the greatest goal scorers of all time...
Dude the recency bias is insane. he struggled for like 13 games and he was still putting up points. That barely qualifys as a slump. He five points away from being point per game as the second youngest player, and everyone is starting to doubt hom and glaze celebrini to the moon. This happened to crosby and mcdavid, but we dknt like to talk about that because its trendy to hate Bedard for some reason, goofballs
McMichael is 23 years old bro. Mackinnon and Rantanen had 38 points in their second season. Draisaitl has 51 points in second season. Jack Hughes had 31 points in his second year. Nikita Kucherov had 18 points when he was 20 years old. Bedard is going to surpass them all in his sophomore year. Still generational, kid is 19 years old let him develop. These videos are ridiculous. He playing like a 19 year old. There hasn't been a 19 years old center who was decent at at faceoffs.
He has not been good this year. Bottom line. But he is the 2nd youngest player in the league on a really bad team. With that being said he was much much better last season than this one.
I love how people are teady to gove up on a 19 year old with 11 points in his last 10 games. While i do agree he os not a generational talent, franklybthat moniker doesnt mean anything any more. He will be a great player, top tier in the league. Will he live up to the hype? Unlikely. But thats ok cause the hype was absurd anyway.
He's also UNDERSIZED...all the guys you mentioned at the beginning are much bigger than him...Bedard still gets pushed around. All the other goal scorers don't get pushed around or push off the puck nobody talks about it they just make excuses for him. He's all hype and Celebrini is better than him already
THINK HE WILL BE IN THE RYAN NUGENT HOPKIND TAYLOR HAL;L JORDAN EBERLE CALIBER 30 TO 40 GOALS FOR 6 TO 7 YEARS THEN 20 FOR 3 OR 4 IN THE BOTTOM OF TOP 100 PLAYERS
so Glad he is under the microscope. than my favorite young player. Adam Fantilli . you guys need to get off his back he will be fine. needs time and experience and better line mates.
Everyone is acting like he is having this very horrible season and starting to doubt him. Like he has 29p in 34 games on that absoulute ass of a team. + he is starting to heat up. I think he still finishes around point per game.
30 points *
@@Snapshot1965 in 35 games
30 in 35 as a 19 year old on a bottom 3 team in the league looks pretty damn good to me. He was never going to be Crosby or McDavid cause of the physical attributes. Think Kane with a better shot is more likely
@@Kyle-rq1yn
That's a very good way of putting it. I know he was a generational producer in junior's but I don't think he has nearly the skill level due to physical limitations of actual generational talents.
His main risk atm is his lack of skill in taking contact, he won't be able to outdance every D here and hope he doesn't get injured
A generational shooter that takes 2 shots per game. Even at a 10% shooting percentage, that only amounts to about 20 goals in a season.
Yeah I can’t help but be a bit underwhelmed by this too. Even with poor linemates and roster I would expect a little more in his sophomore season. He has the exact same amount of shots on goal as rookie Celebrini has despite Celebrini playing 10 fewer games.
Mackinnon had problems at the Same age
And Bedard have third Line players
And now look at him. Bedard will be fine
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MacKinnon isn't generational.
@jfkst1 tf you mean lol and I don't even like colorado
@@ThatGuyAlex69
I mean MacKinnon is not a generational talent. He took four years to get elite and while he's great now he's not a once in a generation player. Draisaitl and Matthews are at least his peer. McDavid is the superior player over the course of each career. That's not generational
@@jfkst1draisaitl + matthews not even close to Mack
This video already didn't age well. Bedard has 10 points in 8 games under the new coach. If he continues at this pace, he'll have 89 points for the season as a 19 year old on a pathetic team.
All of last year, watching him for the hawks, I had a feeling he was more of a playmaker than a goal scorer. He’s genuinely the right handed Patrick Kane in the making. And I think he’s hurting from the hawks front office not recognizing that he needs a goal scorer that is a genuine threat to play alongside him. If he did, the other team would have to defend him differently. Right now, the strategy is to just smother him and cover the shot lane. And he’s been very vocal about how he won’t shoot if it’s not the right play, which with how he’s defended, rarely is shooting the right play. He needs to use his linemates, but his linemates make a lot of dumb plays that don’t work with him. It’s frustrating as a hawks fan seeing this. Also, he, analytically, has a very average shot. And is a very average skater, which most top players are elite skaters. He really needs to work on that. His first 3 steps are some of the worst in the league, he hardly builds up any speed.
This video is a lot more negative than the Celebrini one but it’s worth noting that Bedard is still a generational talent. Time will be the biggest tell of just how impactful he is on the history books.
He's really not. Generational talents don't develop - they're already developed. The go straight to the NHL and skip the farm team for a reason - they are ready. Bedard is not. He refuses to play a 200 ft game. He leaves the zone early. He floats around. He has a great shot, but goalies and Dmen have figured his one move out. He's a good player, but he ain't no generational talent.
@@Shurehlm
Exactly. Generational talents don't have sophomore slumps. Compare Bedard to Crosby, Ovechkin, McDavid and he's not in the same category.
Do ya think he'd do this in Vancouver? if Chicago received Petey plus prospects.
I AM wondering if he's gonna go to Vancouver for cheap instead probably after his contract year the next year after then be generational in Vancouver wouldn't that piss Chicago fans off he'd be a public enemy to the hawk fans lol.
I think we’ve honestly de-valued the meaning of “generational talent” over the years. It literally means once in a generation. They are above even “franchise/elite talent”. These are extraordinary players who literally take over the league once they step in and have an “it factor” that separates them from the elite level class. Look at Crosby with his insane IQ of the game since he broke into the league and McDavid who’s a class above everyone in terms of his speed and being able to make high quality plays while at full speed to his will. All Bedard has shown is his shot and even then he isn’t all that spectacular. He is definitely a franchise level talent. I’d say you could compare him to someone like Auston Matthews. But he is a class below the top, top dogs.
@@SoHowYouDoin if he was truly generational i think he’d he at least a ppg in Chicago. He’s just not who we all thought he was
His coaches in Regina didn’t do him any favours by letting him get away with not playing in the D Zone. You need to work on your weaknesses.
Richardson had them playing way too passive, and Bedard has 11 points in 9 games since Sorensen took over. Small sample size, but a good sign. Subjectively, you can see that he's been a completely different player the last couple weeks under Sorensen.
As a Hawks fan, I'm terrified that Richardson's "system" stifled Bedard's development a little. It seemed like his goal was just to make sure the Hawks weren't getting blown out every game, but the offense just didn't exist. Between that and the line shuffling, the whole team full of new players is just starting to build chemistry 30 games into the season.
Maybe the other players noticed hes not "the next one" and actually started checking him. He was too cocky and got away with it.
When your top 6 high danger passes per 60 include Pat maroon Criag smith and Joey Anderson in it no wonder he can’t score he has no one to work with. This Blackhawks teams just sad. As a 19 year old myself I couldn’t imagine what that man’s going through rn.
What's the problem with a 19 year having 30 points in 35 games?
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the problem is that he is not living up to the hype and expectations should be tempered. He is nowhere near generational and having a faceoff percentage of 31 is just unacceptable.
exactly. He's still an amazing player
Dude these videos are great. Really appreciate the work you put in here.
Team is poor and he needs better line mates that compliment his growing skills. New coach seems to have gotten him on better track..
So Connor Bedard seems to have in regular-season play cooled off a bit on the point production. last season he put up 22 goals among 61 points over 68 games, resulting in respective averages, rounded to the nearest 0.001 point, 0.897 and 0.324. Nail Yakupov, who like Bedard was picked first overall by his NHL Draft team, put up in his rookie season 17 goals among 31 points over 48 games, translating into respective per-game averages of 0.646 and 0.354.
Yakupov, during his sophomore season, scored 11 goals among 24 points over 63 regular-season games. Bedard, over 35 relevant games this season, has scored nine goals but:
- before the February 4 Nations Faceoff, should at least equal, during his sophomore season, the 11 goals that during his sophomore season, Yakupov scored
- has already:
- assisted on almost as many goals (21) as during his sophomore season Yakupov put up points (24)
- put up, in non-preseason play, put more points (30) in fewer games (35) than during his sophomore season Yakupov (24) ever did (63 relevant games)
Bedard may not yet be a superstar, but he sure isn’t looking like the bust that during his sophomore season Yakupov would end up being well on his way to becoming.
He’ll bounce back. Lucas Raymond had a shitty sophomore slump too, and he’s better than ever now.
Mackinnon also
Loved this video. Very well put together and analyzed the topics most people don’t notice when watching hockey. Awesome how you laid out the things he can work on from an analytics standpoint as well. Cant wait for more big head videos in the future!
Hey thanks for putting these out! I really enjoy your content all around and the Sharks videos helped me bring my partner into the fandom and understand the tragic Sharks legacy.
Get him some finishers and we would be talking about something else.
what about his faceoff %? can't give your finishers an assist when you do not have possession of the puck
He's trying to be an unselfish player. He thinks he's surrounded by NHL talent.. he's not.
Spot on on the facts, yes hes slumpy now but he's learning and still developing he will get their at full potential. Right now baby steps and reinforcements are coming from our pool of prospects patience will pay off
Conner Bedard player comparison maurice richard. Mack I'd say Steve Yzerman. I watched Mack game recently the Edmonton one when he did that stupid deke in ot was dumb rookie mistake but he gives me chills if he hits his ceiling. He's Franchise Player so is Bedard but they aren't Generational Talents. Tiers Generational Talent >>Franchise Player >>Elite >>Core Player >> Role Player.
Richardson’s line shakeups and the overall (lack of) talent really hurt Bedard’s confidence. His skill set out of the box was good enough to be a difference maker. In the NHL it’s not. And I agree that he needs to work on his face offs. We were spoiled by Towes’ willingness to improve his work at the dot, and he did it quickly. He needs someone to look up to because he’s clearly frustrated trying to be Jesus in Skates.
There was a LOT of doubt about Bedard leading up to the draft. I think many people were just looking for hope since the last generation has still failed to save their teams from cup droughts. We're tired of Sid and Ovi being the megastars & Matthews and McDavid being hyped up as the next big thing for a decade. McDavid and Drai are going on 30. 😱
Very interesting that a 19 year old is slower than he was at 18. Curious if he went vegan, or is overtraining, or is fighting some injury. He’ll come around though, no doubt. He’ll be great, generational talent is asking much of anyone though. That’s not a title to apply haphazardly
Chicago has put in to much muscles on him, young body has not adapted to the new body shape.
Simply put: He was the most over-rated hockey player of all time. We heard about him more than 10 times the amount that we did when McDavid was coming into the NHL. It got to the point where most of us were just tired of hearing about him and here we are now and he is just an average number one pick, nothing more. Right now he is sitting at 9 goals in 35 games and they said this guy was going to be one of the greatest goal scorers of all time...
If Chicago drafts James Hagens, they might convert Connor Bedard to a winger. Opinions on that?
everyone is also acting like mckinnon didn’t go through the same thing
Bedard for Petey Garland and Hoglander + picks
He is having the old sophomore slump. So is Fantilli. They will both be fine.
he had 30 points in 35 games, that's about what he had last season
Dude the recency bias is insane. he struggled for like 13 games and he was still putting up points. That barely qualifys as a slump. He five points away from being point per game as the second youngest player, and everyone is starting to doubt hom and glaze celebrini to the moon. This happened to crosby and mcdavid, but we dknt like to talk about that because its trendy to hate Bedard for some reason, goofballs
He needs the bubble!
McMichael is 23 years old bro. Mackinnon and Rantanen had 38 points in their second season. Draisaitl has 51 points in second season. Jack Hughes had 31 points in his second year. Nikita Kucherov had 18 points when he was 20 years old. Bedard is going to surpass them all in his sophomore year. Still generational, kid is 19 years old let him develop. These videos are ridiculous. He playing like a 19 year old. There hasn't been a 19 years old center who was decent at at faceoffs.
That’s a snap shot
Mackinnon damn near was a bust at one point, now look.
Yall need to chill.
He needs the fishbowl back
He’ll leave Chicago as soon as possible.
He has not been good this year. Bottom line. But he is the 2nd youngest player in the league on a really bad team. With that being said he was much much better last season than this one.
I love how people are teady to gove up on a 19 year old with 11 points in his last 10 games.
While i do agree he os not a generational talent, franklybthat moniker doesnt mean anything any more.
He will be a great player, top tier in the league. Will he live up to the hype? Unlikely. But thats ok cause the hype was absurd anyway.
He's also UNDERSIZED...all the guys you mentioned at the beginning are much bigger than him...Bedard still gets pushed around. All the other goal scorers don't get pushed around or push off the puck nobody talks about it they just make excuses for him. He's all hype and Celebrini is better than him already
he was ALL HYPE thats all, he will never be an elite player like mcdavid,mckinnon,
mckinnon didn't break out for a while. Bedard will be fine
THINK HE WILL BE IN THE RYAN NUGENT HOPKIND TAYLOR HAL;L JORDAN EBERLE CALIBER 30 TO 40 GOALS FOR 6 TO 7 YEARS THEN 20 FOR 3 OR 4 IN THE BOTTOM OF TOP 100 PLAYERS
so Glad he is under the microscope. than my favorite young player. Adam Fantilli . you guys need to get off his back he will be fine. needs time and experience and better line mates.
Most overrated and overhyped player this decade. The hype should’ve been around Celebrini
Bedard isn't a generational talent is reality. Neither is Celebrini.
Imo he will be the next patty Kane
@@TheEpicEndermanTV so, not generational
So what being generational doesn't win you shit, I want cups.
@@ThatGuyAlex69
It certainly helps. But hockey is a team sport so depth is more important than having an all time great player for playoff success.
yea they are
Sophomore slump is a term for a reason give him time