I remember back in 2018 when I converted my world to the snapshot of 1.14 and then it was so laggy and I tried going back but every structure disappeared and my inventory was still there , I still miss that world
Big oof. Similar thing happened to me a while back. Wanted to play on an old world but forgot that I was in a newer version so every item just vanished.
Actually getting to seed zero is a really hard problem that was solved by some people reverse engineering the string to seed conversion. It's cool you found another way to get there!
6:23 I personally call them chunk cliffs. Just because that’s what they are. Cliffs between chunks. Usually this is due to corruptions, or generating terrain in different versions. It’s neat, and they sometimes just happen in normal worlds and I don’t know why. It’s obvious when they happen in an ocean or when they destroy a structure.
minecraft world of theseus: if the seed changes and none of the same mobs are there anymore after multiple downgrades of the same world, is it even the same world
it’s because 1.3 changed the chunk format from region to anvil so 1.2 doesn’t know how to read the problematic chunks at all and just loads something else
I accidentally logged onto my 1.18.2 creative testing world on 1.8 awhile back. I realized it before it completely loaded though and did alt + f4. All of the structures I had made before are gone and there is a checkerboard of chunk errors at spawn but it still works and is playable. It's really neat to look at although if I had done this to one of my survival worlds I would have been completely devastated.
For each one that you got a complete new world is because the world save format was different. So technically every time you got a new world the older game could not see that a world still existed. Just the world folder could be seen. since a older game cannot read the new save formats. So now if you look in the region folder you will see 2 or 3 different formats rather than just the 1.
I did something similar to this in a superflat world for an old version I always played on years ago. I'd get whatever OP enchants or stuff I wanted, and was free to explore the insane terrain. I think the steps I did were below: I tried to remember the best I can: 1) go to a older version from your current version (1.2.5 is the one I used a lot) 2) choose a super flat world and create it 3) load that Super Flat world in beta or something. After you die by suffocation, then 3) go back to the version you created the world with (in this example, 1.2.5.) 4) You'll see a normal world / flat world split
I had something like that happen to me once on complete accident, I don't even remember what I did, but my superflat world had a huge chunk cliff and normal world. It was probably like 1.10 at the latest and I was playing on a crappy laptop with way too many mods/mod loaders, probably broke the poor thing lmao
Seed 0 happens when you badly mess up your world to the point where it can be loaded, it’s just very very corrupted and Minecraft doesn’t want your pc to crash so it loads Seed 0. In newer versions, you can actually go to seed 0 without having to get your world corrupted or typing: "pollinating sandboxes" into the seed area
6:38 That is caused becouse 1.2 and later use the "Anvil" save format, but Beta 1.3 all the way up to 1.1 use the "MCRegion" save format. That's why it says "Must be converted" in the save load menu
I used to do this in Pocket Edition, by changing apks (the update block is my favorite still) and using an app to change the seed of the world to a superflat, causing those chunk cliffs.
@@xenai. Yeah, me too! it's sad that i can't play older versions of minecraft pe legally through the game, but getting the last updates with everyone is so nice.
I once built a map in 1.8 and then accidentally opened it in 1.5. It was super weird, almost the entire build was broken, except the walls, which turned from stone bricks, to normal stone and to this day, I have no idea why, cause it's not like stone bricks didn't exist yet. Either way, it was very weird
Before 1.13, blocks had numeric values instead of minecraft:stone_bricks, and if stone was 15 then stone bricks was 15:3, because a colon meant it was a different type of block. In 1.5, the stone bricks type number was different than the 1.8 stone bricks type number, and if the type number doesn't exist, it's removed, hence why it turned to stone.
I played a Creative world in 1.9 but accidentally made a repeating command block at spawn that summoned an exponentially growing number of entities which crashed my game when I loaded the world. I got rid of it by downgrading to 1.8 (before repeating command blocks) then updating to 1.9 again. A couple of chunks near spawn were re-generated like they were from a different world.
Once did this with a 1.6 world I had. I was very proud of it (despite a lot of cheating). I updated it to 1.7.10, but degraded back to 1.6 for a mod I think. All my chests were empty, and inventory was gone. The world and all my structures still stood, but animals where gone, and so was my loot.
This is super helpful! I’m trying to play in a world and keep that save file consistent throughout downgrading versions. Have you found a way to downgrade where it doesn’t reset builds or structures or seeds? If I build a dirt shack in 1.18 but want to downgrade to 1.2 and keep the same shack present
The chunk resets if there’s any new blocks from a new version in the chunk that doesn’t exist in 1.2 for example so let’s say there’s deep stone loaded in a 1.18 chunk If you downgrade to 1.2 then the chunk will reset because deep stone doesn’t exist in 1.2
I had a very weired experience while loading a very awkward seed in 1.16.5 i started a normal world and a bunch of flying mountains (stranded in mid air) i was so suprised a chunk went all the way upto 193 blocks
this shows that the game trys to save you world file instead of saying "ey i can't load this" every chunk it can't load in or its missing data/blocks and stuff probally get reset so thats why some stuff disappear. this is neat in a way. lets say you computer shutdown in the middle of the game saving a chunk in you world, instead of you getting the usual "you world is corrupt" minecraft will try to make it work with what it have and reset what is broken. its better than losing a save file like in other games. in this case is not that the world is missing data it acctualy have all the data but the earlier version not nessesary work with the data the same way and don't have the new data like a new mob that did not exist in 1.0 suddenly being in the world file, what the game is suposed to do? it can't spawn it, it don't have the textures no the behaviours/sounds of the mob so even if it spawnaed a invisible hitbox it would not know how the mob behave/move etc. so the game just reset the chunk whenever theres corrupted or data it don't know how to deal with. tho it seems like some things the game can't fix and it it crashes i wonder what specific file or line of the world its reading that is causing the crash.
I’m not a coder at all but I want to know why those crashes were so consistent ofc 1.2 fixed it because of back end things but I wonder if that either the repairing thing for worlds didn’t exist back then or there was so much corrupted data that it just broke
bro i was going to downgrade my world to 1.17.1 but after i saw this i would not be able to 💀 edit: sadly, i lost my world. i saw the polemic with tlauncher and decided to delete all .minecraft folders, but copying the wolds and etc, but i just forgot to move it out of the deleted folder. 2 yeals lost. i now can´t start a new survival because of my lazyness. everytime i think in doing a new survival, i remember all and every thing i made. all the houndreds of hours lost, all the +800 in-game days... anyways-
Something that is super surreal is porting over Minecraft Xbox 360 Edition worlds to modern minecraft. You can see clear cuts in the world where new generation forms. Its even more freaky in the nether because the game registers it as "Minecraft:ocean" and plays no ambient audio. But going behind the bedrock wall reveals modern nether chunks. It's very freaky.
For anyone who might find this useful; If downgrading a world and a particular chunk area keeps crashing, go back up a version and look around in spectator/creative/use xray to find any blocks that contain metadata, such as chests or mob spawners. Minecraft's data has changed form a lot over the years, and sometimes those forms are incompatible when downgrading. A consistent crash that I got when downgrading was caused by a surprise skeleton dungeon near where I was standing.
I had a great 3 year world in then the newest 1.14.2 and i wanted to make some screens of a redstone circuits i made so i can build the same on 1.12.2 server... Yeah i miss that world ever since.
been trying to downgrade my world from 1.20.4 to 1.14 so i can get the "god" armor, i made sure to go out alot of blocks through the nether than back in the overworld so my important chunks didnt corrupt (made sure render and simulation distance were all the way down). still all chunks corrupted not just the loaded chunks, i did have a backup tho. any solutions?
0:35 About a few hours before the making of this comment, I kept on spawning in the air in beta 1.7.3 and it wouldn’t stop Edit: Around this timestamp, he spawned in the air and got eliminated
I wonder if it is the same for the console versions of Minecraft. I have brief memories of downgrading to different Minecraft worlds and it did not change the world. Not sure if there is an easy way to do this, but one thing was that on an Xbox 360 version of Minecraft on an Xbox that did not update the Minecraft would send you to the first version of Minecraft on the trial. I used to use the disc for the newer version. My 360 did not have Xbox live, but I wonder what would happen if ypu went from the newest to the oldest in console versions
Trying to figure out whether or not I'm having a stroke or he's having a stroke because half of what comes out of his mouth I do not understand in any way shape or form
I don't know... do you have a backup of the world? If not I doubt that you can although I'm not very qualified to answer lol. Maybe as a test create a copy of the current world that you have and try the copy in a higher/lower version to see if that fixes it.
at 1.16 you should look underground, there should be no bedrock, why: 1.17 have got depper world. so after downgrade there is no depper world so it deleted bedrock with depper mines
I made a world in 1.10 but I put it in 1.16 and it was still fine but I went to put it back to 1.10 my stuff was still there but everything else was gone
dude please answer, idk what happend but i was playing on the 1.21 and then i turn on forge and download a 1.21 version of this xray pack in beta (i was just testing it) but all my world GONE and i have gone back to version 1.21 normal but there was also NO WORLDS please i need help i cant loose so much progress help me man
I remember back in 2018 when I converted my world to the snapshot of 1.14 and then it was so laggy and I tried going back but every structure disappeared and my inventory was still there , I still miss that world
Big oof. Similar thing happened to me a while back. Wanted to play on an old world but forgot that I was in a newer version so every item just vanished.
as a Minecraft world expert converter it'll be easy to fix these corrupt worlds as long as you still have the world saved of course
That never happened to me cuz I never updated Minecraft Java Edition to 1.14.
This is why you make backups.
Don't worry, you're not the only one, we have all done this
Actually getting to seed zero is a really hard problem that was solved by some people reverse engineering the string to seed conversion. It's cool you found another way to get there!
Yeah I remembered a couple of UA-camrs talking about how hard it is to get, this is kinda cool
just type "creashaks organzine" into the set seed box, it always works
I wonder if then starting on seed 0 would make any difference for worlds > 1.15
pollinating sandboxes is my fav
plate tectonics changes the world alot when going back in time
genius
6:23 I personally call them chunk cliffs. Just because that’s what they are. Cliffs between chunks. Usually this is due to corruptions, or generating terrain in different versions. It’s neat, and they sometimes just happen in normal worlds and I don’t know why. It’s obvious when they happen in an ocean or when they destroy a structure.
if you set the seed to a character that changes every milisecond, every chunk will be different and playing this as a survival world is very...
funny
@@_rohee
Heh, I know this is fake. Those changing characters aren’t an actual thing, it’s special text. Sorry if I’m bad at explaining this.
@@Real_Moon-Moon §k
@@Real_Moon-Moon bro ive tried this and it works ok
chunk borders
minecraft world of theseus: if the seed changes and none of the same mobs are there anymore after multiple downgrades of the same world, is it even the same world
Deep.
Maybe the real world is the friends we made along the way
That's kind of a reverse ship of theseus where instead of replacing the ship's parts you rust them even more or something like that
That’s like ship of Theseus if instead of repairing it you let it sit for thousands of years until it slowly disintegrates and becomes unrecognisable
aplle???
1.2.1 most likely fixed it because 1.2.1 is one of the versions where the server isn't mixed with the client. 1.3 mixed the client and the server
it’s because 1.3 changed the chunk format from region to anvil so 1.2 doesn’t know how to read the problematic chunks at all and just loads something else
@@person1082 oh ok
@@person1082 1.2 uses anvil
I accidentally logged onto my 1.18.2 creative testing world on 1.8 awhile back. I realized it before it completely loaded though and did alt + f4. All of the structures I had made before are gone and there is a checkerboard of chunk errors at spawn but it still works and is playable. It's really neat to look at although if I had done this to one of my survival worlds I would have been completely devastated.
Rip
For each one that you got a complete new world is because the world save format was different. So technically every time you got a new world the older game could not see that a world still existed. Just the world folder could be seen. since a older game cannot read the new save formats. So now if you look in the region folder you will see 2 or 3 different formats rather than just the 1.
I did something similar to this in a superflat world for an old version I always played on years ago. I'd get whatever OP enchants or stuff I wanted, and was free to explore the insane terrain. I think the steps I did were below: I tried to remember the best I can:
1) go to a older version from your current version (1.2.5 is the one I used a lot)
2) choose a super flat world and create it
3) load that Super Flat world in beta or something. After you die by suffocation, then
3) go back to the version you created the world with (in this example, 1.2.5.)
4) You'll see a normal world / flat world split
Wow
I had something like that happen to me once on complete accident, I don't even remember what I did, but my superflat world had a huge chunk cliff and normal world. It was probably like 1.10 at the latest and I was playing on a crappy laptop with way too many mods/mod loaders, probably broke the poor thing lmao
Interesting experiment. I sadly had a ton of my old worlds from 2010-2018 being lost over time. I wish I'd still have them
szevasz
@@zolloteam Üdv
Seed 0 happens when you badly mess up your world to the point where it can be loaded, it’s just very very corrupted and Minecraft doesn’t want your pc to crash so it loads Seed 0. In newer versions, you can actually go to seed 0 without having to get your world corrupted or typing: "pollinating sandboxes" into the seed area
you can see the game start looking nostalgic again at 1.8 > 1.2.1
6:38 That is caused becouse 1.2 and later use the "Anvil" save format, but Beta 1.3 all the way up to 1.1 use the "MCRegion" save format. That's why it says "Must be converted" in the save load menu
"Must be converted" sounds like my catholic priest
@@redmist6630 OK
You should try that again but each time before downgrading, you change the version value in the level.dat of the map.
6:19 ah, the classic chunk border. Usually they don’t crash your world, but that’s when old terrain is… y’know, updated.
I used to do this in Pocket Edition, by changing apks (the update block is my favorite still) and using an app to change the seed of the world to a superflat, causing those chunk cliffs.
I remember when I used to download apk's for minscraft pe updates. Very happy I actually own the game now
@@xenai. Yeah, me too! it's sad that i can't play older versions of minecraft pe legally through the game, but getting the last updates with everyone is so nice.
i once upgraded my world from 1.7.9 to 1.8 and it cleared my inventory
damn
Surprised this only has 44 views. Very high quality stuff. Subbed.
Thanks! Pt 2 coming soon...
Bro it has like 2700. Great job!
Congrats
Hey Hey
look at these views now
I once built a map in 1.8 and then accidentally opened it in 1.5. It was super weird, almost the entire build was broken, except the walls, which turned from stone bricks, to normal stone and to this day, I have no idea why, cause it's not like stone bricks didn't exist yet. Either way, it was very weird
Before 1.13, blocks had numeric values instead of minecraft:stone_bricks, and if stone was 15 then stone bricks was 15:3, because a colon meant it was a different type of block. In 1.5, the stone bricks type number was different than the 1.8 stone bricks type number, and if the type number doesn't exist, it's removed, hence why it turned to stone.
@@billybobjankens12 thanks so much for the explanation!! I'm really glad I checked this again xd
I played a Creative world in 1.9 but accidentally made a repeating command block at spawn that summoned an exponentially growing number of entities which crashed my game when I loaded the world. I got rid of it by downgrading to 1.8 (before repeating command blocks) then updating to 1.9 again. A couple of chunks near spawn were re-generated like they were from a different world.
what i find cool is how seed 0 is similar in most of the versions
Once did this with a 1.6 world I had. I was very proud of it (despite a lot of cheating). I updated it to 1.7.10, but degraded back to 1.6 for a mod I think. All my chests were empty, and inventory was gone. The world and all my structures still stood, but animals where gone, and so was my loot.
The game loves deleting people's inventory when they downgrade
This is super helpful! I’m trying to play in a world and keep that save file consistent throughout downgrading versions. Have you found a way to downgrade where it doesn’t reset builds or structures or seeds? If I build a dirt shack in 1.18 but want to downgrade to 1.2 and keep the same shack present
The chunk resets if there’s any new blocks from a new version in the chunk that doesn’t exist in 1.2 for example so let’s say there’s deep stone loaded in a 1.18 chunk If you downgrade to 1.2 then the chunk will reset because deep stone doesn’t exist in 1.2
@@eight__822keep in mind that Spawn is always loaded, so it will likely get wiped.
That's why I play a different minecraft launcher, it won't move the worlds for older versions. I will never goof up
You are so criminally underrated that it doesn't seem real
The cutouts are chunks generated from a different version or seed. F3 + G reveals that the walls align with the chunk borders.
5:28 Tip to turn off view bobbing
This is bias. Some people (such as me!) like to play with view bobbing
@@MauveDashHOW cool music tho
@@framekixrr I vibe with it, adds weight to my movement.
@@MauveDash Fair
I had a very weired experience while loading a very awkward seed in 1.16.5 i started a normal world and a bunch of flying mountains (stranded in mid air) i was so suprised a chunk went all the way upto 193 blocks
If I play my world in 1.19 and load it in 1.0, the seed turns into 0
this shows that the game trys to save you world file instead of saying "ey i can't load this"
every chunk it can't load in or its missing data/blocks and stuff probally get reset so thats why some stuff disappear. this is neat in a way. lets say you computer shutdown in the middle of the game saving a chunk in you world, instead of you getting the usual "you world is corrupt" minecraft will try to make it work with what it have and reset what is broken. its better than losing a save file like in other games. in this case is not that the world is missing data it acctualy have all the data but the earlier version not nessesary work with the data the same way and don't have the new data like a new mob that did not exist in 1.0 suddenly being in the world file, what the game is suposed to do? it can't spawn it, it don't have the textures no the behaviours/sounds of the mob so even if it spawnaed a invisible hitbox it would not know how the mob behave/move etc. so the game just reset the chunk whenever theres corrupted or data it don't know how to deal with.
tho it seems like some things the game can't fix and it it crashes i wonder what specific file or line of the world its reading that is causing the crash.
I’m not a coder at all but I want to know why those crashes were so consistent ofc 1.2 fixed it because of back end things but I wonder if that either the repairing thing for worlds didn’t exist back then or there was so much corrupted data that it just broke
Love this vid! I love how so much crazy glitches happen often
I don't know why, but seed 0 feels so old Minecraft to me in 1.15 and I'd love to play it
also, nice smart video :)
4:09 from here, the really good versions list begans
Awesome video! Deserve way more subs, good job!
Thanks!
Omfg I almost started crying just looking at those old block textures 😭
I'm surprised that it actually worked that far
now why was this in my recommended...
PvP nah “peepee” 😭
He had me for 0:02, not gonna lie
bro i was going to downgrade my world to 1.17.1 but after i saw this i would not be able to 💀
edit: sadly, i lost my world. i saw the polemic with tlauncher and decided to delete all .minecraft folders, but copying the wolds and etc, but i just forgot to move it out of the deleted folder. 2 yeals lost. i now can´t start a new survival because of my lazyness. everytime i think in doing a new survival, i remember all and every thing i made. all the houndreds of hours lost, all the +800 in-game days...
anyways-
dude thats horrible :(
I remember constantly doing this to see whatd happen and i endedup getting a whole building swallowed by a chunk that formed
greetings from spain!
Something that is super surreal is porting over Minecraft Xbox 360 Edition worlds to modern minecraft. You can see clear cuts in the world where new generation forms. Its even more freaky in the nether because the game registers it as "Minecraft:ocean" and plays no ambient audio. But going behind the bedrock wall reveals modern nether chunks. It's very freaky.
I like the chill voice very soothing 😊
For anyone who might find this useful; If downgrading a world and a particular chunk area keeps crashing, go back up a version and look around in spectator/creative/use xray to find any blocks that contain metadata, such as chests or mob spawners. Minecraft's data has changed form a lot over the years, and sometimes those forms are incompatible when downgrading. A consistent crash that I got when downgrading was caused by a surprise skeleton dungeon near where I was standing.
What you said in beggining of video happened to me few weeks ago but I quickly realised during opening of world and only few chunks are corrupted
great video! you deserve more subs honestly
Thank you!
How do you concert your worlds to different versions?
please PLEASE turn on smooth lightning
there we are, 3 more versions
Cool video :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice video man!
Thanks!
I had a great 3 year world in then the newest 1.14.2 and i wanted to make some screens of a redstone circuits i made so i can build the same on 1.12.2 server... Yeah i miss that world ever since.
"In the first version" dude lied as easily as he breathed
You should do this again but in reverse
I have!
OMG the Ender Dragon was so unfinished on 1.0 like seriously it doesn't even have sounds??!
been trying to downgrade my world from 1.20.4 to 1.14 so i can get the "god" armor, i made sure to go out alot of blocks through the nether than back in the overworld so my important chunks didnt corrupt (made sure render and simulation distance were all the way down). still all chunks corrupted not just the loaded chunks, i did have a backup tho. any solutions?
There are no solutions aside from going on the backup? I am confused.
I mean any solutions to downgrade to 1.14 with no corruptions. Already found a way tho
@@BearStepaits probably because your base is in spawn chunks, which are always loaded
0:35 About a few hours before the making of this comment, I kept on spawning in the air in beta 1.7.3 and it wouldn’t stop
Edit: Around this timestamp, he spawned in the air and got eliminated
Moral of the story:
Don't downgrade your worlds
nice video!
Thanks!
np
@@KrisButWrong its just really good!
0:47 “first version of Minecraft” and “beatable” aren’t words to be used in the same sentence
This needs more views
i upgraded a world from alpha 1.7 to 1.19 and the world was the same in 1.19
Good video
Glad you enjoyed!
now take it to another Level into BETA 1.9
he couldve prevented all of this from the first 20 seconds if he simply went for 1.18 pvp... it's better than 1.8 tbh
This is an interesting accent...
You have an interesting accent. Where are you from, if you don't mind me asking?
I once made a world in a 1.6 Snapshot, placed some new blocks, then opened it in 1.5. The new blocks was gone of course, but nothing else happend.
I wonder if it is the same for the console versions of Minecraft. I have brief memories of downgrading to different Minecraft worlds and it did not change the world. Not sure if there is an easy way to do this, but one thing was that on an Xbox 360 version of Minecraft on an Xbox that did not update the Minecraft would send you to the first version of Minecraft on the trial. I used to use the disc for the newer version. My 360 did not have Xbox live, but I wonder what would happen if ypu went from the newest to the oldest in console versions
I'm curious what happens if he goes down.
quality content
You should've downgraded the world into beta and then eventually alpha versions
I might do it in the future
What if you use a program to keep the map so it doesn't reset the world
You should do the opposite bring a world further in versions
I wonder how bad will this end (also in the end is impossible to beat the game cuz the dragon despawms but doesn’t create the portal
Whats the point if it generates the world again
Is thaat you Gambit?
why dont people just make a specific folder for their minecraft
what about upgrading from 1.1 to 1.19
can you now go back though beta and alpha and infdev and indev and classic?
do the reverse
Trying to figure out whether or not I'm having a stroke or he's having a stroke because half of what comes out of his mouth I do not understand in any way shape or form
Could I recover the world the I accidentally upgraded into the higher virsion?
I don't know... do you have a backup of the world? If not I doubt that you can although I'm not very qualified to answer lol. Maybe as a test create a copy of the current world that you have and try the copy in a higher/lower version to see if that fixes it.
@@KrisButWrong I have a copy of the higher version which is 1.18.2 but I want to play it on 1.17 because I accidentally played it on higher version.
@@runuway There's a backup folder in your Minecraft folder, check it
at 1.16 you should look underground, there should be no bedrock, why: 1.17 have got depper world. so after downgrade there is no depper world so it deleted bedrock with depper mines
Why does the thumbnail say 1.21?
Asking the same
What's the music?
I made a world in 1.10 but I put it in 1.16 and it was still fine but I went to put it back to 1.10 my stuff was still there but everything else was gone
Bro can edit better then me and i have more subs
it seemed like you had a high ping in singleplayer at some point
Am I delusional or it was really happening? 1:29
Some people would even say "improving a minecraft world until it breaks"
For me i switched Minecraft versions rapidly and it wasn’t even that cool it was just a weird terrain for a bit but not that cool
maikyaft
5:30 how did you get that brightened level?!?! I’ve seen ant venom make a video about it
I did this:
ua-cam.com/video/V5o6yq0wGwA/v-deo.html&ab_channel=HowtoKylr
Tags: age regression, corruption
1.0.0 is not the oldest
Your voice is so cute. 😭
dude please answer, idk what happend but i was playing on the 1.21 and then i turn on forge and download a 1.21 version of this xray pack in beta (i was just testing it)
but all my world GONE and i have gone back to version 1.21 normal but there was also NO WORLDS please i need help i cant loose so much progress help me man
Minecyaft
wow the algorithm really blew this video up late
People are really downgrading 8 years worth of content to spam click in a server?