The Pack Hunter's interesting. IMO it reflects Phalen Kell's influence on Clan Wolf in Exile and a shift towards more IS tactics. it's a zippy little flanker and harasser, something you keep out of the main fight as much as possible and try to get rear/weak spot hits in on enemy 'mechs you've tied up with your main forces (Like say, that 100-ton Kodiak).
I'm totally in agreement with Aaron. This isn't really something that you'd field together unless it was a narrative battle and that's all you had. Really these guys are to fill gaps in other lists, or in the case of the Kodiak, build a list around! Can't say enough good things about the sculpts! Catalyst really pulled out all the stops. Keep up the great job guys! This is a nice way to kick off my weekend.
Wow, a Hellion figure? I haven't played Battletech in 20 years, but that was a beast in its heavy laser configuration. If they sell it as a stand alone, i'll probably pick one up just to paint.
Another great box of awesome. Not super keen on that Pack Hunter, but that Howler is another one of those "so silly its cool" mechs like the Battle Cobra.
Nice of Catalyst to only make enough mechs to satisfy the Kickstarter, but not any for retail sale. So now people who didn't support the Kickstarter are at the mercy of scalpers.
CGL announced a massive reprint and restock that should hopefully reach retailers late this year/early next year. Of course, it might have been hard to hear about if your ear wasn't to the ground... or listening when they mentioned it at the start of this video
Who's spreading that misinformation? CGL directly said that they produced extra boxes for retail in the first run. And that's before the Battletech record breaking restock that has already been ordered.
@@lorcannagle Very true about the reprints, but what's more they didn't just print enough Wave 2 for the KS backers. There will be Wave 2 retail available once the KS distribution is over just as there was for Wave 1. OP has bad info or is making a wrong assumption here.
My honest-to-goodness thought when I ordered his pack was that I needed to have a Kodiak and I was willing to buy four throwaway mechs to get it. However, I have recently started playing Alpha Strike and the Fire Falcon has found its way onto my team. AS has given me a lot more perspective on playing with mechs I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole in classic.
The original Baboon sculpt is one of my favorite mechs, this one is nice but not the over the top features that made the original a classic that was sadly discontinued being from the cursed 3055 tech readout.
I don't think I've ever seen the OG sculpt of the Baboon, but the new sculpt is certainly much improved over the original 3055 artwork. So asymmetrical it hurts. The other stuff looks good, but that Kodiak is a real show stealer. Cheers fellas.
I ordered two so I could build a light hunter/killer star around the pack hunters, and fill out my assault/heavy stars with the Kodiaks (my salvage box pulls weren't exactly the widest variety)
Apart from a handful omnimechs from Mechcommander 2, the Ebon Jaguar, the Nova, the Dire Wolf and the Kodiak I really don't know a lot of Clan mechs. Well, I did read up on all of the IICs as I find them far more interesting than the omnimechs. Oh, and the Vapor Eagle, and the Hellbringer. I guess I know a few... Although I have no idea how to make a Clan force, the only Clan I know enough to care about are the Wolverines.
Atlas, iconic, dire wolf, walking battleship, but the Kodiak, it has the name, it looks absolutely intimidating and stout, but its unfortunate the claws are only "ceremonial" from what I understand. Just for show? That kinda sucks. Im one for streamlined form and function, not fluff and stuff, so that is a little cheese to me. Looks cool, but take the "claws" off and im good. It looks like something you wouldn't want to see stomping over the nearest hill, while the atlas is something you might see in a ptsd nightmare with the cold soulless skull cockpit with the pilot inside as its brain. I just wish there was a variant of the Kodiak that had functional claws. How is the Axmans ax made functional with a hand actuator, but the Kodiak claws for show? Odd clan decision.
As a Jade Falcon player this boxset was an obvious choice with the Howler and Fire Falcon. The Kodiak will be nice to have if purely to see the faces of Ghost Bear boys when I paint their beloved totem mech in bright emerald green haha!
This is one of the three packs I didn't get. Since ordering I've come to realise how good the Kodiac can be... and look... Only a couple of the mechs fit in to formations that I was planning... it is a bit of a random lot.
The Ad-Hoc star is weird, the Kodi's there with all the small guys and its a case of "I heard you was bullying my Childeren...." with how huge it is. The Hellion and Pack Hunter are weird choices too. The Pack Hunter's a Wolf in Exile Mech and is quite late post Tukayyid, and the Hellion, whilst out like appears in 3058 or something and is brand new. Shame they didn't save the Pouncer and Phantom, both needed new art and models. Still a great review! :D
I completely agree about the inappropriateness of the Pack Hunter and Hellion. Neither of those mechs are associated at all with the Clan Invasion era and their introduction is post Invasion Era. I would have been more satisfied with more appropriate Clan designs that predated the Clan Invasion. The Pouncer and Phantom could have been included, as the Linebacker was (TRO 3055 designs). But I would have rather seen a redesign of the Grizzly, Thresher and Piranha (completing the 3058 designs) or even some older designs from TRO 3060 like the Guillotine IIC, Highlander IIC, Orion IIC, Clint IIC or even the Corvus.
@@davidbelsheim9232 Oh good one with the Thresher and Grizzly, the Piranah's already in it thankfully, and yeah the Thresher's OLD in canon, it was used as the basis for the Summoner/Thor, and the Grizzly's also an older Mech too. And it would be nice to see another Bear mech. Still I like the Fire Falcon, it packs SO much firepower onto the Mech, 12 tons of pod space for weapons is a HUGE amount.
the pack hunter is 1300 bv (not counting clan pilot), but it's a 7/11/7 cERPPC mech. And the fire falcon prime is brutal - MPL, 2ERML, 2 ERSL, 2 SSRM4 on a 8/12 mech. Agree on the Howler - 3 lrm5 might not seem like much, but it's a stinger-sized mech, and 3 tons of ammo is plenty if you want to bring smoke, or fascam rounds to the table, and at 645 bv it's a great way of filling out a clan force (until you start delving into protomechs, but then a bogart2 is 497 bv (of pure evil, though)
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming agreed. And the redesign is a great-looking mech. It doesn't fit the traditional clanner doctrine, but bring a pair of them with specialty munitions in support of a star made of a fire falcon, fire moth, and a piranha - fun times.
The fire falcon is pretty expensive but it is a decent light mech. The problem with alpha strike is that every light but fast mech is over costed. due to TMM like you guys pointed out. The Prime variant is one of the few light mechs in the game that does 5 damage in the first 2 range brackets which as a delayed engagement striker, isn't bad. Although at 27 PV the B variant is a good all range harasser., you'll cost it up trying to get it to hit at long range though....
@@rburt3 Absolutely, I stumbled onto the Destiny battle reports a few months back and fell in love with the system, jumped on patreon and have been using it the last couple of weeks at the LGS to try an get more people hooked on the game without having to play AS.
I played a game yesterday in which I fielded a Hellion, and it took six turns of focused fire from a Griffin, Thunderbolt, Grasshopper, and Atlas for my opponent to kill the Hellion. The Hellion and a Black Lanner killed an Archer in three turns.
Definitely wanted to pick this up for the Kodiak but I'm now liking the Howler and maybe the Fire Falcon as well. Will have to see if it's available anywhere once the retailers get their stuff.
The Pack Hunter's interesting. IMO it reflects Phalen Kell's influence on Clan Wolf in Exile and a shift towards more IS tactics. it's a zippy little flanker and harasser, something you keep out of the main fight as much as possible and try to get rear/weak spot hits in on enemy 'mechs you've tied up with your main forces (Like say, that 100-ton Kodiak).
I'm totally in agreement with Aaron. This isn't really something that you'd field together unless it was a narrative battle and that's all you had. Really these guys are to fill gaps in other lists, or in the case of the Kodiak, build a list around!
Can't say enough good things about the sculpts! Catalyst really pulled out all the stops. Keep up the great job guys! This is a nice way to kick off my weekend.
Thanks as always for watching & supporting the channel Brian!
Am I the wierd one for picking it off the shelf at the Hobby store and playing it as is on the spot?
Tbf I had no idea what I was doing.
Not even a little weird! Play what speaks to you!
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming
*My decision to buy another two boxes of Ad Havoc has been vindicated.*
Wow, a Hellion figure? I haven't played Battletech in 20 years, but that was a beast in its heavy laser configuration. If they sell it as a stand alone, i'll probably pick one up just to paint.
You might be able to find some singles on ebay!
I always forget about that site. I'll have to do some looking, thanks.
Another great box of awesome. Not super keen on that Pack Hunter, but that Howler is another one of those "so silly its cool" mechs like the Battle Cobra.
Love it. But always a Baboon in my heart.
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming Fair :D
It's dumb I know, but I was bothered with how many high ranking pilot cards did not have a blood name.
saKhan Jim
Haha
Ad Hoc Star otherwise known as Mother Bear and her cubs
LOL accurate
Nice of Catalyst to only make enough mechs to satisfy the Kickstarter, but not any for retail sale.
So now people who didn't support the Kickstarter are at the mercy of scalpers.
CGL announced a massive reprint and restock that should hopefully reach retailers late this year/early next year.
Of course, it might have been hard to hear about if your ear wasn't to the ground... or listening when they mentioned it at the start of this video
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Who's spreading that misinformation? CGL directly said that they produced extra boxes for retail in the first run. And that's before the Battletech record breaking restock that has already been ordered.
@@lorcannagle Very true about the reprints, but what's more they didn't just print enough Wave 2 for the KS backers. There will be Wave 2 retail available once the KS distribution is over just as there was for Wave 1. OP has bad info or is making a wrong assumption here.
Twin streak 6's, because the kodiak does not respect you if you don't lift.
The Ad Hoc star, the star of mechs the clans found under the cushions of their mech couches.
Haha so ad hoc.
I just want to be able to buy a single Kodiak mini from this box. Such a great sculpt.
$40,000,000.99 on ebay right now 😂
My honest-to-goodness thought when I ordered his pack was that I needed to have a Kodiak and I was willing to buy four throwaway mechs to get it.
However, I have recently started playing Alpha Strike and the Fire Falcon has found its way onto my team. AS has given me a lot more perspective on playing with mechs I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole in classic.
100000% agree! That is one of my favorite parts of AS
The name says it all. It’s the “misc” star. It’s not really intended as a star at all. It’s a box they can sell 10,000 of that has some niche mechs.
I know a guy who'd buy it just for the Kodiak and consider the others a nice little bonus
For the expected price of these things, it’d be worth it imo!!
The original Baboon sculpt is one of my favorite mechs, this one is nice but not the over the top features that made the original a classic that was sadly discontinued being from the cursed 3055 tech readout.
I don't think I've ever seen the OG sculpt of the Baboon, but the new sculpt is certainly much improved over the original 3055 artwork. So asymmetrical it hurts. The other stuff looks good, but that Kodiak is a real show stealer. Cheers fellas.
Thanks for watching as always!!
I think everyone that got this box got it for the Kodiak, including myself.
Seyla, and the Fire Falcon for my Jade Falcons.
I really wanted that Fire Falcon!
@@Pariah502 Its a mean little Mech, a quantum leap for Clan lights if you've been stuck with Koshi's and Uller's.
I ordered two so I could build a light hunter/killer star around the pack hunters, and fill out my assault/heavy stars with the Kodiaks (my salvage box pulls weren't exactly the widest variety)
Lots of good options in here, but no doubt the Kodiak is the most renown!
Apart from a handful omnimechs from Mechcommander 2, the Ebon Jaguar, the Nova, the Dire Wolf and the Kodiak I really don't know a lot of Clan mechs.
Well, I did read up on all of the IICs as I find them far more interesting than the omnimechs. Oh, and the Vapor Eagle, and the Hellbringer.
I guess I know a few... Although I have no idea how to make a Clan force, the only Clan I know enough to care about are the Wolverines.
A strange assortment; i like the look of the Baboon but damn that Kodiak looks amazing
Atlas, iconic, dire wolf, walking battleship, but the Kodiak, it has the name, it looks absolutely intimidating and stout, but its unfortunate the claws are only "ceremonial" from what I understand. Just for show? That kinda sucks. Im one for streamlined form and function, not fluff and stuff, so that is a little cheese to me. Looks cool, but take the "claws" off and im good. It looks like something you wouldn't want to see stomping over the nearest hill, while the atlas is something you might see in a ptsd nightmare with the cold soulless skull cockpit with the pilot inside as its brain. I just wish there was a variant of the Kodiak that had functional claws. How is the Axmans ax made functional with a hand actuator, but the Kodiak claws for show? Odd clan decision.
Clans make a lot of odd decisions.
As a Jade Falcon player this boxset was an obvious choice with the Howler and Fire Falcon. The Kodiak will be nice to have if purely to see the faces of Ghost Bear boys when I paint their beloved totem mech in bright emerald green haha!
You monster 😂
blasphemer!!
This is one of the three packs I didn't get. Since ordering I've come to realise how good the Kodiac can be... and look...
Only a couple of the mechs fit in to formations that I was planning... it is a bit of a random lot.
Yes! Definitely a “gap filler” but lots of great sculpts!
“Ad Hoc” is an adverb for “As needed” so I guess it does that right. Plug these guys in where you need em
I want that Kodiak soooo bad
Its a beastie!
The Ad-Hoc star is weird, the Kodi's there with all the small guys and its a case of "I heard you was bullying my Childeren...." with how huge it is. The Hellion and Pack Hunter are weird choices too. The Pack Hunter's a Wolf in Exile Mech and is quite late post Tukayyid, and the Hellion, whilst out like appears in 3058 or something and is brand new. Shame they didn't save the Pouncer and Phantom, both needed new art and models. Still a great review! :D
Phantom is a fav of mine from MW2:GBL! Such a neat little mech - and yes, in need of TLC
I completely agree about the inappropriateness of the Pack Hunter and Hellion. Neither of those mechs are associated at all with the Clan Invasion era and their introduction is post Invasion Era. I would have been more satisfied with more appropriate Clan designs that predated the Clan Invasion. The Pouncer and Phantom could have been included, as the Linebacker was (TRO 3055 designs). But I would have rather seen a redesign of the Grizzly, Thresher and Piranha (completing the 3058 designs) or even some older designs from TRO 3060 like the Guillotine IIC, Highlander IIC, Orion IIC, Clint IIC or even the Corvus.
@@davidbelsheim9232 Oh good one with the Thresher and Grizzly, the Piranah's already in it thankfully, and yeah the Thresher's OLD in canon, it was used as the basis for the Summoner/Thor, and the Grizzly's also an older Mech too. And it would be nice to see another Bear mech. Still I like the Fire Falcon, it packs SO much firepower onto the Mech, 12 tons of pod space for weapons is a HUGE amount.
Ooo Grizzly. Another one I love!!
I want the Kodiak so bad, ill have to pick that one up!
Its a good lookin model!!
the pack hunter is 1300 bv (not counting clan pilot), but it's a 7/11/7 cERPPC mech. And the fire falcon prime is brutal - MPL, 2ERML, 2 ERSL, 2 SSRM4 on a 8/12 mech.
Agree on the Howler - 3 lrm5 might not seem like much, but it's a stinger-sized mech, and 3 tons of ammo is plenty if you want to bring smoke, or fascam rounds to the table, and at 645 bv it's a great way of filling out a clan force (until you start delving into protomechs, but then a bogart2 is 497 bv (of pure evil, though)
I am a big baboon fan 😁
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming agreed. And the redesign is a great-looking mech. It doesn't fit the traditional clanner doctrine, but bring a pair of them with specialty munitions in support of a star made of a fire falcon, fire moth, and a piranha - fun times.
Most definitely. The jury is still out on the Piranha for me… but it does look great!
Jimmy 'Super Fly' Snuka makes the show!
I've just found the legends box for $100 this morning. Even I had to go no.
I am so excited about these new models but the backlog on stick in my area is crazy
Can't even pre-order any of these wave 2 boxes is how sold out it is for those of us who missed the KS.
That Kodiak looks amazing and who is going to argue with that on the table top!
Arguing with a Kodiak sounds like a losing proposition haha
Still unavailable in Australia
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The fire falcon is pretty expensive but it is a decent light mech. The problem with alpha strike is that every light but fast mech is over costed. due to TMM like you guys pointed out. The Prime variant is one of the few light mechs in the game that does 5 damage in the first 2 range brackets which as a delayed engagement striker, isn't bad. Although at 27 PV the B variant is a good all range harasser., you'll cost it up trying to get it to hit at long range though....
Most definitely. You know I agree!!
Great unboxing. This is definitely one that I wish I had added to my kickstarter for the Kodiak and Pack Hunter.
Thanks Faith! Kodiak is a monster indeed.
Nice to see you around these parts, Faith.
@@rburt3 Absolutely, I stumbled onto the Destiny battle reports a few months back and fell in love with the system, jumped on patreon and have been using it the last couple of weeks at the LGS to try an get more people hooked on the game without having to play AS.
Great video! Looking forward to more. Is it possible to see what kevin got from the Wave 2?
All of the same stuff 😝
I played a game yesterday in which I fielded a Hellion, and it took six turns of focused fire from a Griffin, Thunderbolt, Grasshopper, and Atlas for my opponent to kill the Hellion.
The Hellion and a Black Lanner killed an Archer in three turns.
Woah! Did they miss a lot due to the speed?
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming That and careful placement. Between the speed and terrain it was +4 to be hit most turns.
That sounds like a frustrating day for the Inner Sphere!
Definitely wanted to pick this up for the Kodiak but I'm now liking the Howler and maybe the Fire Falcon as well. Will have to see if it's available anywhere once the retailers get their stuff.
Should be rolling out in maybe a month or so!