This was fun to go blind (albeit most of the alliance seemed to know what to do my first run), but I appreciate being able to double check a couple mechanics. Rhalgr was a fun spatula fight the second go around lol
12:27 Small clarification on the Stygian Tenet tankbuster, the one that targets all 3 tanks; it does NOT target all 3 tanks - it targets each person at the top of the Enmity List in each alliance. Meaning that even if you're not Main Tanking in this fight, still keep your tank stance on because if not, a DPS will get targeted instead and be killed.
8:20 Small correction on Azeyma's Radiant Rhythm + Radiant Finish (the fan mechanic); it does not always alternate between 4 or 5 rotations before exploding. Had a run just now where it just did 5 rotations all three of the times the mechanic happened. So it's probably just purely random. Seems the best way to handle this is to just stand dead center, watch for Radiant Finish to start casting, and just run a bit in the direction where the fans aren't. Depending on how accurate you are with being at dead center, you might not even have to run very far.
I really like that the devs are taking players feedback and making more terrain focused arenas rather than just circle or square. Really want them to keep doing it. It’ll allow them to do more creative mechanics.
@@silvertayuun They didn't revamp the dungeons just Prae which has actual mechanics to it now. The dungeons have been the same since ARR and further ones after haven't been changed. Only Prae got changes turning ultima into a trial and Prae more into a 4 man dungeon with actual boss mechanics.
During the Nald'Thal fight, the clones point their conal AOE's at whichever player they copied, so you can point them away from the arena if you're lucky enough to get cloned! xD
Thank you! I cleared this last night but only because someone marked themselves with a danger dorito and said to follow if needed. Dude had so many people stacked on him you couldn't even see him. Great for clearing, not for learning. At least now I have some idea of what to do the next time I go in.
Placing my bets on Llymlaen and Nophica as the final bosses of the 2nd and 3rd wing, if they want to keep a traditional split with the 3 starting cities of Eorzea, since Nald'Thal's boss music is very Thanalan-y in lyrics. Not that anything is stopping them from opting for Halone and Thaliak and making the song Ishgard and Sharlayan themed, but they do tend to treat the first 3 nations with a lot of parity. To that end, I expect Wind+Water and Ice+Earth pairings as well, putting Sharlayan with Limsa and Ishgard with Gridania, such as Ala Mhigo went with Ul'Dah.
I suspect the patrons of each city-state will get a unique theme (including Halone for Ishgard), but Oschon is absolutely going to be the final boss, given the fact that he's almost certainly the one that invited us here in the first place.
Mildly disappointed that they didn't implement this, but I would've loved a mechanic where whichever one of the 12 you chose when you made your character, if you are fighting them, you get a small buff, or some people in my FC say debuff, either one works
It's also worth mentioning you can surecast fortunes flux. Its best to save it for the tripple set though. What you want to do is to pick a spot away from the circle aoe(s). If first aoe is knockback, you surecast after the fortunes flux castbar fills. If first aoe is a circle, you surecast after the circle goes off. It has worked for me every run without exceptions.
7:04 kill the dude first since he does circle and eats away at melee uptime there's nothing stopping ranged from being in melee range: donut has no downtime 14:31 if there's too many corpses, the tether will sometimes fail to show in this case, just follow whichever your party member's got tether, so you don't mess up stacks 15:04 I would argue the _easiest_ way to resolve this is just to stare at the weight up north and just adjust accordingly, since the weight updates real-time, since coordination is hard with randos
13:08 Another way to think of how Hell of Fire is aimed is that it's a half-room in the direction that Thal is looking. If Thal's on top, it fires in front of the twins. If Thal's on the bottom (and therefore looking backwards), it fires behind the twins.
Thanks Mr. Happs, my first run of this with my aging ass I've had more deaths than I care to admit. Even the four man dungeons lately I'm struggling with certain mechs.
Did this blind with my FC and friends group and that was fun but we died a lot. Thankfully we didn't wipe. Thank you Mrhappy for the guide this will help in future runs!
@@Konpekikaminari me prior to the raid: Gee, I wonder if the Rhalgr fight will lean more into his depiction as a mage, or his role as patron to the monks? Yoshi-P: Yes.
I really appreciate watching these, especially after I've done it once. But, oh, the chaos of the N/T balancing phase! People in another alliance kicking each other like crazy, SURE it was intentional trolling. So I hope this guide helps people to get a grip! I really like it, though. Good story, & so pretty!
Update: Finally did it last Saturday, we had a blast despite I got cursed by terrible connection and didn't even get the loot other than one glove. And I can confirm my crafter level is still the same
There's a lot of ways to show which attack goes off. The color of the outside, the twins' quips, and which twin's currently on top. Despite it being pretty simple once you know what you're looking for, I absolutely adore the twins' tag-team mechanics.
I am not sure if that was touched upon but getting knocked by Byregot into the wall will put a heavy damage over time debuff on you so make sure to have your impact away from the walls of the arena when it comes to Nald'thal though his balls are powerful "phrasing" they really do not hit that badly however they do add an invuln stack so might wanna keep that in mind if you're panicking over dodging them balls thrown at you
I honestly didn't think an alliance raid could top the bias-boosted NieR raids I was wrong, this was amazing from design to mechanics to "In The Balance" that has been playing on repeat in my head for days now On a side note, I like how Azeyma is the only one to call us [her] children rather than "children of man"
I still don't know what criteria the game follows in which player the soulless vessels clone. Is it the player with the least DPS, most damage received, or its just a random number generator. Because I seem to be their favorite in my first few runs.
My question is - how does the game choose who gets cloned? (asking for the purpose of making sure the person in my party who gets cloned is wearing the most ridiculous glam possible >.>)
@@Konpekikaminari not always, just did a run where all three adds were on the same side. You'd think we'd ALL have to be on the other side, but 2-3 people had to cross back over. I didn't realize til this video, but some of the adds have different numbers of the giant weights over them, I suspect that has something to do with it.
@@Konpekikaminari Except they don't. That ONLY works if the copied person is a larger race. If they're a miqo'te or female au'ra for example those are two weight symbols instead of three and lalafell adds are a single weight symbol like players. There is no one size fits all answer for it.
goes to translate cardinal as i was not blessed with the english knowledge from birth i get the result of "a leading dignitary of the Roman Catholic Church. Cardinals are nominated by the Pope" yay guide is so easy now Kappa
Cardonal in this sense refers to the compass directions of North, South, East, and West. As opposed to the intercardonal directions of Northeast, Northwest, Southeast, and Southwest.
You have to progress through some of the main story to unlock it. Once you've gotten past the new dungeon, you'll get a notification that you can begin the raid storyline at the end of the following quest. As for the where, just head over to the Baldesion Annex once you've unlocked it.
rhalgar is extremely scripted so it's easy to figure out when he'll do which broken world and when. First one is always run to the finger while the 2nd and 3rd is run to the meteor 4th is the finger again and the 5th is the run to the meteor. I't always determined by where the red circle is. Also first meteor he'll actual warp to the red circle.
Unpopular Opinion: I didn't enjoy the raid. I didn't think it was better than ShB Raids or SB raids. The music was ok but it wasn't something memorable and that's fine, it doesn't always have to be. Ok is fine. The fight itself felt a bit gimmicky with alot of gotcha mechanics. Tbh, the best thing about the raid was the rewards that look epic, but it's not something I'm jumping for joy to do again. I enjoy the alliance raids more than anything else in this game. It was ok but it could be way more interesting it also felt less group mechanics oriented than all the other raids. It Felt basically like a solo fight with alot of ppl.
Quality of your guide vids have gone downhill, your explanations are not clear and you beat around the bush too much, even from someone who already knows the deal.
Be really really careful with the Nald'Thal fight.
The OST is a banger, you might get distracted and fail a mechanic
Ofc they make Thals Balls an actual mechanic
This was fun to go blind (albeit most of the alliance seemed to know what to do my first run), but I appreciate being able to double check a couple mechanics. Rhalgr was a fun spatula fight the second go around lol
nothing beats day 1 aliance raid pure chaos!
blind runs are pure gold
Running Monastery an hour after 4.5 went live is legit one of favorite gaming experiences of all time.
Hashbrown (Hashalamel?) Was the Bringer of Ruin to all raids for days after release. Those were good times!
we ran quickly in my alliance and got the scales done on the second attempt right after it released on reset.
12:27 Small clarification on the Stygian Tenet tankbuster, the one that targets all 3 tanks; it does NOT target all 3 tanks - it targets each person at the top of the Enmity List in each alliance. Meaning that even if you're not Main Tanking in this fight, still keep your tank stance on because if not, a DPS will get targeted instead and be killed.
8:20
Small correction on Azeyma's Radiant Rhythm + Radiant Finish (the fan mechanic); it does not always alternate between 4 or 5 rotations before exploding. Had a run just now where it just did 5 rotations all three of the times the mechanic happened. So it's probably just purely random.
Seems the best way to handle this is to just stand dead center, watch for Radiant Finish to start casting, and just run a bit in the direction where the fans aren't. Depending on how accurate you are with being at dead center, you might not even have to run very far.
this should be pinned
Thank you
*Wait... playing 24 man raid content... with out making the size of summons small?! THIS IS MADNESS!*
Umm..How do I change other peoples summons? I thought the petsize thing only affects your summons and not the other peoples?
@@castillle3675 If I remember correctly it's /petsize all small.
@@castillle3675 petsize command works on everything.
@@castillle3675 The command only works on what you see. So if you set them to small, all summons will appear small to you.
@@castillle3675 It's client-side. So you have to be the one to change the summons.
The arena design for Rhalgr is one of my favorite fight arenas in the game.
The huge hammer works by its self!
I really like that the devs are taking players feedback and making more terrain focused arenas rather than just circle or square.
Really want them to keep doing it. It’ll allow them to do more creative mechanics.
@@Budds2311 and then you look at the revamped old dungeons…now literally just circles for each encounter lol
I like the builder. Stand in the aoe watch people panic watch aoe get knocked out from under you to panicking people. Have a good laugh.
@@silvertayuun They didn't revamp the dungeons just Prae which has actual mechanics to it now. The dungeons have been the same since ARR and further ones after haven't been changed. Only Prae got changes turning ultima into a trial and Prae more into a 4 man dungeon with actual boss mechanics.
During the Nald'Thal fight, the clones point their conal AOE's at whichever player they copied, so you can point them away from the arena if you're lucky enough to get cloned! xD
Thank you! I cleared this last night but only because someone marked themselves with a danger dorito and said to follow if needed. Dude had so many people stacked on him you couldn't even see him. Great for clearing, not for learning. At least now I have some idea of what to do the next time I go in.
Placing my bets on Llymlaen and Nophica as the final bosses of the 2nd and 3rd wing, if they want to keep a traditional split with the 3 starting cities of Eorzea, since Nald'Thal's boss music is very Thanalan-y in lyrics. Not that anything is stopping them from opting for Halone and Thaliak and making the song Ishgard and Sharlayan themed, but they do tend to treat the first 3 nations with a lot of parity.
To that end, I expect Wind+Water and Ice+Earth pairings as well, putting Sharlayan with Limsa and Ishgard with Gridania, such as Ala Mhigo went with Ul'Dah.
They appear to be going clockwise around the circle, so the last bosses would be Althyk and Oschon
I suspect the patrons of each city-state will get a unique theme (including Halone for Ishgard), but Oschon is absolutely going to be the final boss, given the fact that he's almost certainly the one that invited us here in the first place.
Thanks, MrHappy for the guide. Went in blind yesterday, was fun, didn't die too much...lol
Thanks for the video! I went into it blind as I'm wont to do for the first time but it's also nice seeing everything laid out clearly like this.
13:22 ....... I was waiting for this... and still rolled my eyes... XD
Well done sir.
(Also great guide :-) )
I cannot describe how hard I hit my spacebar to just have a moment of silence after that lol
I was in one raid that did 4 count radiant rhythms both times. Thank you for your videos ☀️
My first run if this was nuts, tons of deaths yet not one single wipe, even somehow managed to not die with 8 stacks of vulnerability
Rhalgr got us once. We were all first timers, such is the nature of a knockback based fight.
"This will summon Thal's Balls in sets of 3" ...
I see what you did there, MrHappy! I see you .... :P
Mildly disappointed that they didn't implement this, but I would've loved a mechanic where whichever one of the 12 you chose when you made your character, if you are fighting them, you get a small buff, or some people in my FC say debuff, either one works
It's also worth mentioning you can surecast fortunes flux. Its best to save it for the tripple set though. What you want to do is to pick a spot away from the circle aoe(s). If first aoe is knockback, you surecast after the fortunes flux castbar fills. If first aoe is a circle, you surecast after the circle goes off. It has worked for me every run without exceptions.
7:22 This is why you set summon size to max. 🙃
Loving the giant size Summons. Thought one of the bosses was summoning Titan for a moment lol.
7:04
kill the dude first since he does circle and eats away at melee uptime
there's nothing stopping ranged from being in melee range: donut has no downtime
14:31
if there's too many corpses, the tether will sometimes fail to show
in this case, just follow whichever your party member's got tether, so you don't mess up stacks
15:04
I would argue the _easiest_ way to resolve this is just to stare at the weight up north and just adjust accordingly, since the weight updates real-time, since coordination is hard with randos
13:08 Another way to think of how Hell of Fire is aimed is that it's a half-room in the direction that Thal is looking. If Thal's on top, it fires in front of the twins. If Thal's on the bottom (and therefore looking backwards), it fires behind the twins.
"This will summon Thal's Balls" yes my favorite mechanic
you explain things so well. love your guides
Thanks Mr. Happs, my first run of this with my aging ass I've had more deaths than I care to admit. Even the four man dungeons lately I'm struggling with certain mechs.
Did this blind with my FC and friends group and that was fun but we died a lot. Thankfully we didn't wipe. Thank you Mrhappy for the guide this will help in future runs!
Rhalgr was the hardest lol the amount of deaths was insane
As a Highlander MNK main, I genuinely couldn't be happier with how this raid has treated my man so far, fight and personality-wise!
@@Andyjoe522 based fellow Hyur lol yh I can imagine this fight as a Monk was proper immersive! Best alliance raid since Ivalice!
@@Andyjoe522 literally punching meteors at us, the madlad
@@Konpekikaminari me prior to the raid: Gee, I wonder if the Rhalgr fight will lean more into his depiction as a mage, or his role as patron to the monks?
Yoshi-P: Yes.
@@Andyjoe522 good ol' muscle wizard
Final boss music is POG
Wow! As a casual, this is gonna take awhile to learn.
I really appreciate watching these, especially after I've done it once. But, oh, the chaos of the N/T balancing phase! People in another alliance kicking each other like crazy, SURE it was intentional trolling. So I hope this guide helps people to get a grip! I really like it, though. Good story, & so pretty!
Nald'thal really have banger music.
Maybe consider turning down spell effects, and making SMN summons smaller, so it's easier to see what the heck is actually going on.
Will do this tonight with a group of friends, let's hope all of my crafter levels won't be reseted to lv 1 again after I'm done slapping Byregot.
"But Mr Byregot, sir..... I have your blessing! Right here! PLEASE DON'T KILL ME!"
Update: Finally did it last Saturday, we had a blast despite I got cursed by terrible connection and didn't even get the loot other than one glove. And I can confirm my crafter level is still the same
Little nitpick, the mechanic in Nald'thal is *not* the name of the horror movie, 'As Above, So Below'.
god i didnt even notice the arena colour changes in the last fight. suddenly everything makes sense.
There's a lot of ways to show which attack goes off. The color of the outside, the twins' quips, and which twin's currently on top. Despite it being pretty simple once you know what you're looking for, I absolutely adore the twins' tag-team mechanics.
I am not sure if that was touched upon but getting knocked by Byregot into the wall will put a heavy damage over time debuff on you so make sure to have your impact away from the walls of the arena
when it comes to Nald'thal though his balls are powerful "phrasing" they really do not hit that badly however they do add an invuln stack so might wanna keep that in mind if you're panicking over dodging them balls thrown at you
I remember someone moving from the scales _at the last second_, wiping us and restarting the fight. The whole chat was PISSED.
Can't help but chuckle every time I hit 13:24 XD
I honestly didn't think an alliance raid could top the bias-boosted NieR raids
I was wrong, this was amazing from design to mechanics to "In The Balance" that has been playing on repeat in my head for days now
On a side note, I like how Azeyma is the only one to call us [her] children rather than "children of man"
I still don't know what criteria the game follows in which player the soulless vessels clone. Is it the player with the least DPS, most damage received, or its just a random number generator. Because I seem to be their favorite in my first few runs.
might want to do a guide for the porta decumana, it's quite a different fight to the ultima weapon fight before.
13:25 Ha, he said Thal's balls.
So far the scale mechanic seems to confuse the groups I’ve been in. After explaining I’ve had a run where everyone kept messing up about 4-5 times.
Blind running this was fun even got the minion
Great guide.
So the lamps indicate whether or not the blue or the red aoe circles will attack? Hmm
This was a fun raid
I thought it was you can win 1 piece of loot per boss per week... I was so confused after being loot locked.
Is it possible to set my camera like this on a 1080p 24in monitor? Could really use that since 24man raids need that bigger view.
Thal's Balls Brother!
My question is - how does the game choose who gets cloned? (asking for the purpose of making sure the person in my party who gets cloned is wearing the most ridiculous glam possible >.>)
What's the ratio between the big weights and the player weights during Nald'thal's fight?
Thal's balls: nothing to it but to just avoid them. Got it.
I felt so lost running it blind lol I felt so dumb
You still have chance, please try to find a blind group, it is really fun to do this blind, there are blind group in entire week 1!
Yo its crazy, that West Coast Ping! You should have gotten hit by all those fleetings. I'm salty as an East coast player.
Got wiped multiple times on Nald'Thal due to people not being able to do math. The cherry on top is that the kill animation takes forever.
Those 3 SMN have their rotations tf DOWN
erm.... yeah thanks........(has no idea what cardinal means)
Just beat this last night lol
I don't like the scales mechanic in an Ally raid, too many people to coordinate properly. other than that, i've loved this one
It's easy once you realise add=8 players weight
Kill your add, go to other side
@@Konpekikaminari not always, just did a run where all three adds were on the same side. You'd think we'd ALL have to be on the other side, but 2-3 people had to cross back over. I didn't realize til this video, but some of the adds have different numbers of the giant weights over them, I suspect that has something to do with it.
@@Konpekikaminari Except they don't. That ONLY works if the copied person is a larger race. If they're a miqo'te or female au'ra for example those are two weight symbols instead of three and lalafell adds are a single weight symbol like players.
There is no one size fits all answer for it.
@@dragonsofthemind5161 really?
That's kinda cool
goes to translate cardinal as i was not blessed with the english knowledge from birth
i get the result of "a leading dignitary of the Roman Catholic Church. Cardinals are nominated by the Pope"
yay guide is so easy now Kappa
Cardonal in this sense refers to the compass directions of North, South, East, and West. As opposed to the intercardonal directions of Northeast, Northwest, Southeast, and Southwest.
Where do you unlock the new 6.1 raid ?
Midway thru new MSQ. Kryle will ask you to see her when you are available.
After a certain point in the MSQ it'll tell you that you can unlock it in Sharlayan. It's after you've done the new dungeon.
You have to progress through some of the main story to unlock it. Once you've gotten past the new dungeon, you'll get a notification that you can begin the raid storyline at the end of the following quest. As for the where, just head over to the Baldesion Annex once you've unlocked it.
Got lucky and had no wipes for my first run but I had NO clue wtf was going on 🤣.
It's AglAia, not Aglia.
rhalgar is extremely scripted so it's easy to figure out when he'll do which broken world and when. First one is always run to the finger while the 2nd and 3rd is run to the meteor 4th is the finger again and the 5th is the run to the meteor. I't always determined by where the red circle is. Also first meteor he'll actual warp to the red circle.
Unpopular Opinion: I didn't enjoy the raid. I didn't think it was better than ShB Raids or SB raids. The music was ok but it wasn't something memorable and that's fine, it doesn't always have to be. Ok is fine. The fight itself felt a bit gimmicky with alot of gotcha mechanics.
Tbh, the best thing about the raid was the rewards that look epic, but it's not something I'm jumping for joy to do again.
I enjoy the alliance raids more than anything else in this game. It was ok but it could be way more interesting it also felt less group mechanics oriented than all the other raids. It Felt basically like a solo fight with alot of ppl.
Did this run completely blind and had zero death. Definitely not as hard as Nier raid.
Quality of your guide vids have gone downhill, your explanations are not clear and you beat around the bush too much, even from someone who already knows the deal.
guides for 24s meh
Are you here only to be a negative nancy or what?