Soviet-Afghan War: Red Star over Khyber (1984)

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  • Опубліковано 31 гру 2023
  • PBS Frontline documentary chronicling the current state of affairs of the Soviet war in Afghanistan.
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  • @LonelyRanger902
    @LonelyRanger902 5 місяців тому +77

    This is hilarious, listening to this American reporter praising the laws of radical Islam, when, for 20 years, we would try to eliminate those very same laws

    • @BrianSmith-yq7ys
      @BrianSmith-yq7ys 4 місяці тому

      Its a shame that its gone back to where it was. Girls cant go to school and so forth. The brittish goverment is sponsoring afghan school girls to go to rwanda for schooling

    • @ekesandras1481
      @ekesandras1481 3 місяці тому

      Communism was the bigger threat. As soon as that disappeared, Islam rose to be the most disruptive power. Now Russian imperialism is back and has pushed Islamism away from being enemy number one. It may return, but as for now they lost their mojo and are on the defensive.

    • @straywolf77
      @straywolf77 2 місяці тому +3

      Tells you how the 'truths' change with time...

    • @benjamink1403
      @benjamink1403 Місяць тому +2

      @@straywolf77 "truths" are whatever pays most and serves Israel

    • @ThePizzaGoblin
      @ThePizzaGoblin Місяць тому +1

      Doesn't seem like they're praising them to me. Just seems like they're telling us how it is with no value judgement

  • @bpdp379
    @bpdp379 5 місяців тому +122

    The best part of this is how it feels like I’m watching it on a VHS machine…

    • @joe-id5pb
      @joe-id5pb 5 місяців тому +8

      I thought I was alone on that. Brings back memories of vhs days.

    • @goldencheese7247
      @goldencheese7247 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeeeesss

    • @bookreaderson
      @bookreaderson 5 місяців тому +4

      VHS machine lol. Cute

    • @johnanita9251
      @johnanita9251 5 місяців тому +2

      Haha, I still have on. You absolutely right 😂😂😂

    • @bookreaderson
      @bookreaderson 5 місяців тому +1

      @@johnanita9251 I still use mine. 1980 here born lol

  • @midnightteapot5633
    @midnightteapot5633 5 місяців тому +56

    The quote from Kipling at the end of the documentary was interesting, some Soviet soldiers used to always keep a couple of grenades ready in case capture was imminent. No one ever wanted to be captured by those people.

    • @kwhp1507
      @kwhp1507 5 місяців тому +1

      He said they don’t take prisoners, so there ya go.

    • @midnightteapot5633
      @midnightteapot5633 5 місяців тому +7

      @@kwhp1507 First of all the commentator did not say they did not take prisoners, he said "They do not like taking Prisoners." Those that were taken alive were usually tortured to death, the whole point of my comment. There were a number of cases of ransom and defection as well, but this was the exception not the rule. So there YOU go mate, the quicker the better.

    • @levonfilipponi6912
      @levonfilipponi6912 14 днів тому

      Modern day ruzzian invaders in Ukraine still carry those grenades close to their chest under their body armour for exactly the same reason.

  • @albundy1104
    @albundy1104 5 місяців тому +28

    Russians in Afghanistan were fighting with one hand tight behind their backs.
    Firstly, there was someone very generous who would give Taliban MANPADs, a bunch of land mines, millions of small arms with ammunition and facilitated the recruitment, arrival and training of hundreds of thousands of volunteers from all over the Middle East (that was how Bin Laden got there). Also, the insurgents had safe haven in Pakistan where Soviet troops, Air Force or Artillery under no circumstances were not allowed to fire at. Imagine if the US troops in Afghanistan were under the same constraints?

    • @mikael5938
      @mikael5938 3 місяці тому +8

      US still lost with free hands

    • @brianpeppers7455
      @brianpeppers7455 Місяць тому

      Neither the US or Soviet invasions were prosecuted with the purpose of total victory. Both were done at the behest of banking/corporate interests. Politicians are proxies for banking/corporate interests, when you understand this, offensive wars makes much more sense. Right now Russia vs Ukraine is a proxy war where real people's sons die for profit in moscow, london, nyc, etc.. At least in the old days kings used to fight and die in the battles, this is no longer the case.

    • @fritzritchie-wy7ms
      @fritzritchie-wy7ms 10 днів тому +1

      Well, to be fair, the Americans WERE under almost the exact same circumstances in Vietnam.

  • @aroncells3120
    @aroncells3120 5 місяців тому +18

    The blonde news reel lady at the start has that 80's good looks and style which for me will never go out of fashion

    • @gordonlandreth9550
      @gordonlandreth9550 5 місяців тому +1

      But too bad she turned into a liberal hag who would not go away .

    • @chonqmonk
      @chonqmonk 5 місяців тому +4

      Judy Woodruff

  • @johnnyzippo7109
    @johnnyzippo7109 5 місяців тому +18

    The preeminent book on Soviet - Afghan War is : “The Soviet - Afghan War , How A Superpower Fought and Lost “ , The Russian General Staff . University Press of Kansas , translated and edited by Lester W. Grau and Michael A. Gress, Forward by Theodore C. Mataxis . This is a must read for any enthusiast or historian interested in this war.

    • @fiendish67
      @fiendish67 5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks, this is one of my interests in cold war study.

    • @jacknikitos6185
      @jacknikitos6185 5 місяців тому +1

      Behind Russian Lines An Afghan Journal by Sandy Gall, London.

    • @johnnyzippo7109
      @johnnyzippo7109 5 місяців тому

      I will definitely pick this one up , much appreciated.

  • @martinbrousseau2560
    @martinbrousseau2560 5 місяців тому +14

    In Toronto I spoke with a Soviet-Afghan war veteran who now managed an apartment complex where Afghan-Mujahideen also lived and rented from…

    • @bookreaderson
      @bookreaderson 5 місяців тому +2

      We’re in Toronto? Brampton ? Durham ??

    • @martinbrousseau2560
      @martinbrousseau2560 5 місяців тому

      @@bookreaderson where,,, Cabbagetown, Church n Wellesley area of Toronto.

    • @chonqmonk
      @chonqmonk 5 місяців тому

      @@martinbrousseau2560 *GO LEAFS!*

    • @user-bd7im8et8l
      @user-bd7im8et8l 3 місяці тому

      Это перебежчик который предал Родину

    • @tonybaloney8401
      @tonybaloney8401 17 днів тому

      How hypocritical, they fight foreigners in their country just to become a foreigner themselves

  • @aaronwilkinson8963
    @aaronwilkinson8963 5 місяців тому +30

    I was a British soldier I served out there from 2009 to 2010. We pretty much did the same thing as the Soviets

    • @fistingendakenny8781
      @fistingendakenny8781 5 місяців тому +5

      Genocide?

    • @aaronwilkinson8963
      @aaronwilkinson8963 5 місяців тому

      @@fistingendakenny8781 I wish

    • @user-wf5gm8ld8w
      @user-wf5gm8ld8w 5 місяців тому +6

      Нашу советскую армию вывели аккуратно.Мы не бежали,как американцы.
      Выводом послужило предательство Горбачева.только этот человек причастен в выводе со своей демократией.
      ДА ЗДРАВСТВУЕТ НАША РОДИНА СССР

    • @aaronwilkinson8963
      @aaronwilkinson8963 5 місяців тому

      @@user-wf5gm8ld8w Yes the soviet army did have a better withdrawal than the Americans. They only had to cross a border. Donald Trump had a plan to withdraw from Afghanistan and then Joe Biden who replaced him to only screw things up. I personally blame the American Generals who should have known better.
      You know the US seems to be taking on the characteristics of the CCCP like how they lie to the people with propaganda few people believe or pretend to believe.
      America is a deeply corrupt country and Europe are little different.
      I don't understand why these elites are not content with Russians existing in the world. Bare in mind these Ukrainians are not fighting for their independence they are fighting for American corporations such as Black Rock and Monsanto to come and exploit them. I believe they will come to regret their partnership with the West.
      Just remember I do not believe in the Western propaganda. I am still waiting for a reason why Russians are my enemy and not our elites who are doing the damage. I am not the enemy of any Russian.

    • @Toxic_Man_
      @Toxic_Man_ 5 місяців тому +3

      What other genocides?? The Soviets, unlike you, did not bomb the cities en masse!
      They were fighting real radicals, which was raging at that moment! The Afghans themselves called them!
      Remember me, what happened on September 11, 2001?

  • @JeepWrangler1957
    @JeepWrangler1957 5 місяців тому +116

    Having served in the U.S. Marine Corps during the Cold War I spoke with our Battalion XO who was a Major. A big flaw in the Red Army was that there was no professional NCO corps. Where we had SSGT thru SGTMAJ, the Soviets may promote a conscript to SGT but his obligation was still the original 2 years. While there were some senior NCO’s, most were drunks just waiting for a pension. Personal initiative was not allowed. In the U.S. military a PVT with a radio could request arty or air support if the situation dictates. In the USSR a major or higher was required to request support fire. So it may take several hours for the request to funnel its way to be approved. You saw this in Afghanistan when under fire and their officer is killed they huddled in groups not knowing what to do. Very sad but that is life in a communist country

    • @Doc_Egan
      @Doc_Egan 5 місяців тому +24

      We have seen the same thing in Ukraine. A lack of an NCO Corps is what really hinders the Russians, thank God.

    • @johnhough9593
      @johnhough9593 5 місяців тому +6

      Semper Fi

    • @artt8381
      @artt8381 5 місяців тому

      @@Doc_EganI don’t think a lack of NCOs is really the problem here. If they had air superiority, communications, logistics, something even resembling combined arms we wouldn’t be talking about NCOs.

    • @Doc_Egan
      @Doc_Egan 5 місяців тому +7

      @artt8381 I would say it is one of their many problems along with the ones you listed. I would add bad maintenance, bad logistics, and corruption too.

    • @user-lz1yw4fl2e
      @user-lz1yw4fl2e 5 місяців тому

      Lol. What does the bureaucracy inherent in any state have to do with communist ideology? On the contrary, communism presupposes the destruction of all states - therefore, the existence of such an ineffective bureaucracy in the USSR means the insufficiency of communist ideology.

  • @georgros4199
    @georgros4199 5 місяців тому +35

    I love the part when he say "most of them (casualties) were civilian" and show entire village of armed people.

    • @jackjohnson424
      @jackjohnson424 5 місяців тому +4

      Civilians have a right to defend their homes 😂

    • @SnekNOTSnake
      @SnekNOTSnake 2 місяці тому

      3 million civilians killed according to wikipedia. is that not "most of them" enough? Or are you saying all of those 3 millions are armed?

    • @georgros4199
      @georgros4199 2 місяці тому +1

      @@SnekNOTSnake both things.

  • @Doc_Egan
    @Doc_Egan 5 місяців тому +78

    Well shit! Did no one in the DOD ever see this? It looks like a replay of the last 20 years we were in Afghanistan. All you have to do is swap out the names of the players and this could be about Operation Enduring Freedom.

    • @John3.36
      @John3.36 5 місяців тому +14

      Afghanistan is death of empires for a reason. One thing that we learn from history is that we never learn from history.

    • @brucemcdonald6677
      @brucemcdonald6677 5 місяців тому +11

      Not even close. The US fought a very very different and largely successful war in and among Afghan population and won over large populations of the Afghansitan. Unfortunately, we lost the political will to keep up the waste for a people that large did not want to be free

    • @Doc_Egan
      @Doc_Egan 5 місяців тому +7

      @brucemcdonald6677 We did fight it differently, and we focused on helping the people of Afghanistan. That is one of many reasons why we did not take as many casualties as the Russians(in my opinion, they didn't all hate us). We did not indiscriminately kill Afghanistans like the Russians. When I was in Afghanistan, it sure felt like we had won a lot of them over and had made a big difference there. At the end of the day, though, we lost the political will to fight. People in general don't understand that if you invade some place, you should plan to be there in some capacity for 60-70 years to ensure stability. We could have done that with a small force remaining in place. Unfortunately we ultimately fell victim to a lack of political will and the same patterns that were shown in the video. There were still going back and forth between Afghanistan and Pakistan all the time. A great saying is that we fought 20 one year wars in Afghanistan and we won 19 of them.

    • @matthewschiebout7384
      @matthewschiebout7384 5 місяців тому

      some American agency knew, that's certain. Afghanistan doesn't even want to be a country as the west would understand it

    • @gordonlandreth9550
      @gordonlandreth9550 5 місяців тому +2

      Not quite , history shows a huge difference between the reasons for each war .

  • @gavinmarshall6438
    @gavinmarshall6438 5 місяців тому +17

    I remember watching this at the time. Pity Bush didn’t watch it too, things might’ve turned out very differently.

  • @rayj9
    @rayj9 5 місяців тому +21

    25:46 "A man with no hand is no man"-- George Costanza and whoever this guy is.

    • @chonqmonk
      @chonqmonk 5 місяців тому

      I think that was Mulla Hakka Durkadurka.

    • @kevinfoley8105
      @kevinfoley8105 5 місяців тому

      No it was Manay, Monay, Tippy Tippy Day Day@@chonqmonk

  • @janporinchak5867
    @janporinchak5867 5 місяців тому +8

    Holy Smokes, young Judy Woodruff!

  • @dennycraig8483
    @dennycraig8483 5 місяців тому +4

    Watching this in 2024, history has spoken since this was made. Amazing how times have changed. Presidents killed, lies told. America did more to destabilise than any so called dictators, USSR has fallen and risen again.Afghanistan still fighting for survival,a pawn in the battle of empires.

  • @aps125
    @aps125 5 місяців тому +16

    It’s rather ironic when US military suffered the same fate 3 decades later.

    • @chriswood9836
      @chriswood9836 5 місяців тому

      Pretty much by many of the same people they armed and trained and their descendants fighting against the Russians

  • @einweiesblattpapier2676
    @einweiesblattpapier2676 5 місяців тому +37

    It's Kind of a wierd feeling watching this whilst knowing what came after the soviets 😮‍💨

    • @funfact8660
      @funfact8660 5 місяців тому

      Bad installation job Biden's disgraceful cut and stumble out of Afghanistan, leaving casualties, Bagram Airbase, billions in military equipment, and US Civilians behind

    • @bookreaderson
      @bookreaderson 5 місяців тому

      And what came before it …

    • @chonqmonk
      @chonqmonk 5 місяців тому

      @@bookreaderson ...and what came before the dinosaurs.

    • @TelmenBudsuren
      @TelmenBudsuren 5 місяців тому

      ​@@bookreadersonseppo muricans😂

    • @bookreaderson
      @bookreaderson 5 місяців тому

      And what came after it. Watch video / the great game , Russia Britain Afghanistan. Lots came before it

  • @petergraves2085
    @petergraves2085 5 місяців тому +6

    A supplementary comment about the Kabul hospital treating those who lost their limbs (about 6 minutes in). It was and still is run by Dr Alberto Cairo for the Red Cross, who has been there since 1990 - not affected by either of the two terms of the Taliban. He treats everyone, irrespective of background. More here - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Cairo_(physiotherapist)

  • @Yardbird68
    @Yardbird68 5 місяців тому

    I remembered watching this when it first came out on our PBS station KIXE ch.9.

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 5 місяців тому +8

    Another truthful introduction documentary about early political, military, and Islamic militia circumstances in Afghanistan 🇦🇫 when Soviet invaded Afghanistan 🇦🇫 and trapped into CIA trapped.. Thank you 🙏( Mike Guardia) channel for sharing

    • @sheepsfoot2
      @sheepsfoot2 5 місяців тому

      " and trapped into CIA trapped " you f#cking dog the Americans where helping you expel the Russians, but instead of gratitude or a simple thankyou > 9/11 /2001 ! THOUGH SHALT NOT CAST YOUR PEARLS AMONG SWINE LEST THEY TURN UPON YOU, RIP AND TEAR YOU !

  • @13infbatt
    @13infbatt 5 місяців тому +6

    And they all lived happily ever after .

  • @khixarshah8315
    @khixarshah8315 Місяць тому

    The intro Yeah it feels like I'm a kid ... sitting with my uncle's and listening..it brought back the old days

  • @CrazyforCruiser
    @CrazyforCruiser 4 місяці тому +1

    PBS Frontline always makes the best documentaries.

  • @addyr
    @addyr 5 місяців тому +30

    History repeats itself, and some things never change

    • @scubemariononovsky-tb8js
      @scubemariononovsky-tb8js 5 місяців тому

      INSANE FOR BETTER MY MIND THAN MY HEALTHY BODY

    • @funfact8660
      @funfact8660 5 місяців тому

      Especially in Afghanistan

    • @BanterousLad
      @BanterousLad 5 місяців тому +2

      war.
      war never changes......

    • @Doc_Egan
      @Doc_Egan 5 місяців тому +1

      If you change the names it could be about the last 20 years.

    • @BaronVonHobgoblin
      @BaronVonHobgoblin 5 місяців тому +1

      Your comment says more about your own lack of interest in history than it does about actual history.

  • @joeblow22219
    @joeblow22219 5 місяців тому +5

    superpowers never learn, especially from each other

  • @user-rc9ew3ky6n
    @user-rc9ew3ky6n 5 місяців тому +9

    3 rules of military strategy don't invade Afghanistan, don't invade Afghanistan don't invade Afghanistan.

    • @fahkiewtu1072
      @fahkiewtu1072 5 місяців тому +1

      Genghis Khan and the Mongols would like to have a word with you (their descendants are known today as the Hazara ethnic group in Afghanistan)

    • @valentinoesposito3614
      @valentinoesposito3614 5 місяців тому +1

      And don’t invade Russia

  • @asullivan4047
    @asullivan4047 5 місяців тому +5

    Interesting/informative/entertaining.

  • @edgy_dabs9167
    @edgy_dabs9167 5 місяців тому +6

    There is a lot of similarity’s between this and what happened in with the US in Afghanistan

    • @chonqmonk
      @chonqmonk 5 місяців тому +2

      Sherlock Holmes, is that you?

  • @dawamsurya7540
    @dawamsurya7540 3 місяці тому

    More documentary like this please ,i like old vibe documentary

  • @dickritchie2596
    @dickritchie2596 5 місяців тому +5

    Dear Lord, I had no idea Judy Woodruff was once young and hot. 😂

  • @roc7880
    @roc7880 5 місяців тому +16

    when journalism was about facts and reality, not feelings and sensitivity. when journalism presented a history of the events not just a discrete item suspended in vaccuum. when media did not care about making viewers feel good or bad, but make them informed so they can shape public policy in a wise manner.

    • @kwhp1507
      @kwhp1507 5 місяців тому +2

      Part of that is because this is a PBS program. Just in case you are un-familiar with it, it stands for Public Broadcast Service and has always been like this. Mainstream media even then was biased.

    • @Wes-tg5xw
      @Wes-tg5xw 5 місяців тому

      Sadly PBS has become as biased as the mainstream media, maybe more.

    • @spencertherren6806
      @spencertherren6806 3 місяці тому

      ​@@kwhp1507PBS is now a Democrat party propaganda machine.👌

  • @Mikeb8134
    @Mikeb8134 5 місяців тому

    thanks

  • @ThePizzaGoblin
    @ThePizzaGoblin Місяць тому

    Yo the narrator at the beginning has been with Frontline since the dawn of time. Hes still narrating for them!

  • @10toMidnight
    @10toMidnight 5 місяців тому +3

    I spent a lot of time over there working as an “Advisor” and can tell you nothing will ever change. Tribal politics. They’ll drink tea with you one day and and shoot in the back an hour later. Worked all the hardships locs and this is just marginally a step from Somalia…

  • @jyy9624
    @jyy9624 5 місяців тому +5

    Self determination

  • @maxasaurus3008
    @maxasaurus3008 5 місяців тому +11

    This is great! Especially if you’ve seen Charlie Wilson’s War or read the book.

    • @Elsupermayan8870
      @Elsupermayan8870 5 місяців тому +1

      If you haven't already, checkout a movie called The Beast (1988).
      It's about a Russian deserter who was part of a tank crew, fights with the Afghans against his former comrades.

  • @williamhayes2960
    @williamhayes2960 Місяць тому

    " ...many all over the world stand with you." Boy, do we regret having done that.

  • @rjds1800
    @rjds1800 5 місяців тому +1

    40 years later and little has really changed just the names of those involved.... it has merely evolved.

  • @curtiswashington8536
    @curtiswashington8536 24 дні тому

    Damn 1984 they just showed bodies on PBS like it was normal that's wild

  • @oO-_-_-_-Oo
    @oO-_-_-_-Oo 5 місяців тому +8

    Charlie Wilson's War is a good flick.

  • @DarmoeD88
    @DarmoeD88 5 місяців тому +5

    Самое сложное, это наступление. Когда человек сидит в засаде, у него всегда есть право первого выстрела. И нет, дело не в том что маджахелы такие крутые. Можете сравнить с Въетнамом. А насколько были бы круты маджахеды, которые решили вторгнуться в Россию. Их бы просто вынесли как щенков, и далеко бы они не зашли. Не говоря ещё о попытке удерживании занятой позиции. Это всегда превзято, что обороняющиеся круты. Для результативного наступления, по идее должно быть солдат больше в три раза. Даже если взять ту де Украину. В обороне у них больше людей. Только за счет технологического преимущества, Россия захватила территоррии, и удерживает их.

    • @bestmoment102
      @bestmoment102 5 місяців тому +3

      не хрен было лезть в чужой дом

    • @user-lz1yw4fl2e
      @user-lz1yw4fl2e 5 місяців тому +4

      @@bestmoment102 Кек. Советские войска были официально приглашены. Это во-первых.
      "...принято окончательное решение ввести советские войска в Афганистан, опираясь на статью 4 советско-афганского Договора о дружбе, добрососедстве и сотрудничестве от 5 декабря 1978 года, статью 51 Устава ООН и неоднократные просьбы правительства ДРА об оказании военной помощи."
      Во-вторых, Красная Армия неоднократно ходила в походы в Афганистан. Первые из них осуществлялись ещё под руководством товарища М. Фрунзе.
      В-третьих, всеобще известно, что Советский Союз проводит политику на основе коммунистической идеологии. Поддержать прогрессивные революционные силы в Афганистане, которые к примеру были за равноправие мужчин и женщин в стране - было святым делом.
      В-четвёртых, никакой "войны" и не было. Это как сейчас некоторые, кто законы не умеет читать, называют зачем-то СВО "войной". Это могут быть разве что какие-то субъективные личностные ощущения, мнения, но эти люди настоящих войн сами не видели; либо же жертвы иностранной вредительской пропаганды, никакого отношения к законности не имеющей. Компетентные люди никогда это "войной" не называли и не назовут.

  • @caseycooper2381
    @caseycooper2381 5 місяців тому +4

    The guy at 22:25 who walks out from the crowd looks just like Bin Laden and he would have been there at the time.

  • @calcallaghan2698
    @calcallaghan2698 5 місяців тому +2

    And the western armies headed on in and got the same result as the soviets ...DEFEAT

  • @westwild75
    @westwild75 5 місяців тому +2

    Now we all know what happened..& why
    " cutting hands" you won't see thieves.

  • @tombergins8215
    @tombergins8215 Місяць тому

    WOW! OMG!
    Back in the Golden Age of Frontline. The days of Objective, fact based journalism.
    I MISS it so much, Before it became Democrat party State Television
    In the mold of the Soviet Union Pravda Propaganda. Thank you so much for uploading

  • @bookreaderson
    @bookreaderson 5 місяців тому +3

    The Durand line , afghan/pakistan border , had zero thoughts when drawing it up

  • @yetizero5563
    @yetizero5563 5 місяців тому

    Mike Guardia FHD !!???

  • @BaronVonHobgoblin
    @BaronVonHobgoblin 5 місяців тому +2

    Politics are infinite while the military, in any of its many forms, is expressly finite! The press is not a learning organization historians and people with genuine interest in the world's problems would do well to remember that. The dramatic, Walter Cronkite-style grandiose allusions at the beginning of this show play to this lack of learning, I'm not entirely convinced that the USSR "lost" Afghanistan any more than Russia has "lost" in any of its other incursions from Georgia to the Ukraine and every country in between. The USSR/Russia have not "lost" if for no other reason than any other potential "winner" has not defined what that "winning end-state" actually is. Wishing for things to return to "the status-quo" pre-invasion is the gold standard for Wishful, Wistful Thinking.
    The press, and many others besides, gleefully forgets that it was Ho Chi Minh who "won" in Vietnam (not the "Viet Minh or Viet Cong"). Most allusions the press makes, from the time of this program to now, between the two conflicts are ahistorical at best and more likely than not flagrantly wrong. The polyphonic nature of the American political electorate makes the agreement upon potentially decisive end-states fully endorsed by all relevant levels and branches of the government all but impossible.
    So, what if America worked with the Mujahedeen in the 80s? That fact does not prove whatever cynical, ahistorical, anti-government, anti-soldier argument either your "studies" professor from higher education or your Streaming Services Talk Show Host has taught you to make.

  • @s1mpreport531
    @s1mpreport531 5 місяців тому +9

    The parallels between this and what is currently happening in Ukraine are vast

  • @user-ms9ji5sj7k
    @user-ms9ji5sj7k 4 місяці тому +1

    Afghanistan was hell on earth for the Soviet Union it was their Vietnam they lost a lot of men especially military equipment war planes it's lasted for ten years with the fall communism

  • @JeepWrangler1957
    @JeepWrangler1957 5 місяців тому +9

    With India as a Soviet client state and enemy of Pakistan, I wonder if the USSR could have convinced India to invade from the south and the Soviets from the north? India was somewhat successful in a 1971 war which took East Pakistan away and created Bangladesh. Having been born in 1957, I cannot say how many times maps and globes had to be tossed because of changing borders.

    • @hellomoto2084
      @hellomoto2084 5 місяців тому +6

      Well as an indian i have myself thought it over.
      Let me say it was less than probable.
      Look at it this way , we invade pakistan, proper .
      Why should usa not intervene?
      That is one point also, you must consider the size of west Pakistan or just pakistan.
      I have seen at the maps of border , its a nightmare of canals, it will stop any invading army.
      Except Sindh province as it is a desert.
      And don't forget china .
      Nixon tried hard to chicoms to invade india across Himalayas, that's why we did what we did in month of December, when all mountain passes are closed in India's east that is Tibet and Himalayas.
      Wars dont happen in Himalayas in winter.
      Also do understand that your calling india an " soviet client state " is very misleading.
      Soviets never had a base here , pakistan has had american bases as it suited them.
      India categorically rejected Soviet military presence here ( due to non aligned movement) also we had trade relations with Europe and North America even during cold war.
      It was not like North Korea .
      Infact Soviets diassuded india to keep it's military operations in east Pakistan and not even attempt to land grab west , which we would not have done .
      Our grouse is over Kashmir and no other territory of pakistan.
      As for Bangladesh war , put india instead of Pakistan, put east Pakistanis refugees instead of Afghans and you will see why did what we did.
      It was refugee crisis larger than this one.

    • @arwinsculler7198
      @arwinsculler7198 5 місяців тому +1

      @@hellomoto2084 haha India... you guys bought 2000 crappy T90 Tanks from the Ruzzians and of course u where a soviet client influenced state, ouch.

    • @andraslibal
      @andraslibal 5 місяців тому

      I don't think India is interested in Afghanistan ... Kashmir sure, the mountains and glaciers supplying its major rivers with water, sure ... what I don't understand is why they did not take a small part of Bangladesh in 1971. The Siliguri corridor could have been widened.

  • @scubemariononovsky-tb8js
    @scubemariononovsky-tb8js 5 місяців тому +1

    DRESSED IN LAYERS

  • @joebidet2050
    @joebidet2050 5 місяців тому

    Wow judy was young

  • @mickeydodds1
    @mickeydodds1 5 місяців тому

    Have you ever seen the footage of that US Jumbo which fell to earth soon after take off?

  • @matthewwagner47
    @matthewwagner47 Місяць тому

    How the world turns.
    You can see not much has really changed.

  • @EricGiebel-hs7uv
    @EricGiebel-hs7uv 5 місяців тому

    I'm stoned!!! But i do I express total love for my people

  • @IcarusIcarus76
    @IcarusIcarus76 5 місяців тому +2

    True but also the us was kicked off by the Afghans…

  • @jjhonecker7644
    @jjhonecker7644 5 місяців тому

    АДСКАЯ АФГАНИСТАН ЙПА!!!!!!!!!! МЫ ДРАЖНО СРАЖАЛИСЬ ЗА ЕГО ЖИЗНЬУНИЧТОЖЕНИЕ ЛЮДЕЙ - ЭТО ЧАСТЬ БОЯ, НИКОГДА НЕ ЗАБЫВАЙТЕ ПОТЕРЯННЫХ ТОВАРИЩЕЙ, НИКОГДА НЕ ЗАБЫВАЙТЕ НАШИХ CCCP!!!!!

  • @scubemariononovsky-tb8js
    @scubemariononovsky-tb8js 5 місяців тому

    I'M COLD IN THIS GARAGE HOT PATCHING A TUBE

  • @339898989
    @339898989 5 місяців тому +1

    Sir Patrick Stewart, is it you? Engage!

  • @user-fc5vg9fk5g
    @user-fc5vg9fk5g 5 місяців тому +1

    Strategic blunder by the Soviets invading Afganistan it was more rational to try subgiigating Pakistan's couterie before disseminating it;s influence in this atypical country across the border.

  • @jayfelsberg1931
    @jayfelsberg1931 5 місяців тому

    28:50 - In other words, proxies

  • @SnakeBush
    @SnakeBush 5 місяців тому +8

    never trust PBS even these old ones

    • @TheClanAdventures
      @TheClanAdventures 5 місяців тому

      Never trust any media. Especially state controlled media unless your one of them....... @@ProgressiveGoldbug

    • @spikespa5208
      @spikespa5208 5 місяців тому +2

      There it is. The first fanatic to bring the T into a thread that has _nothing_ to do with him.

    • @RicArmstrong
      @RicArmstrong 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@spikespa5208
      Yup, they're a cult.

    • @spikespa5208
      @spikespa5208 5 місяців тому

      Two, actually.

  • @MetalAriel
    @MetalAriel 4 місяці тому

    It's fascinating how Afghanistan was conquered by the British, the Russians and the Americans - yet nobody was able to fully pacify the country (which in itself is not a country, but a conglomeration of multiple ethnicities)

  • @luisbrayllebelo4973
    @luisbrayllebelo4973 4 місяці тому

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @georgeunknown2833
    @georgeunknown2833 4 місяці тому

    53:48 what's her name? 🥰

  • @tonycavanagh1929
    @tonycavanagh1929 5 місяців тому +1

    so we watched this, and did the same thing,

  • @viewer7200
    @viewer7200 5 місяців тому +3

    Judy Woodruff was a fox.

  • @tylerelli6565
    @tylerelli6565 5 місяців тому

    The video quality looks like how AI colorizes black and white.

  • @tomservo5347
    @tomservo5347 5 місяців тому

    I have to admit, President Zia seemed to understand what a fractious country his was and the only thing holding it together was an iron fist. We never seem to learn involvement is a hopeless cause with largely tribal people that could care less about 'democracy'. It just doesn't work with people used to living under zealot religious rule.

  • @fakeprofile9502
    @fakeprofile9502 5 місяців тому +1

    If we had just joined russia think of the countless middle easy problems we would have never had.

  • @lani6647
    @lani6647 5 місяців тому

    20:50 Dude sounds a bit salty

  • @albdoggonemorris6488
    @albdoggonemorris6488 5 місяців тому +1

    Three countries never to invade. Russia 🇷🇺 Vietnam 🇻🇳 and Afghanistan 🇦🇫

  • @KhanJee-pz2tn
    @KhanJee-pz2tn Місяць тому

    Complete pic from 1 sided firing

  • @LonelyRanger902
    @LonelyRanger902 5 місяців тому +2

    Isn’t it funny to see the Americans spouting propaganda for the Afghans. 20 years later we would spend over 20 years dying in the same location.

  • @asip1991GoldFAQtTWimtw
    @asip1991GoldFAQtTWimtw 5 місяців тому +4

    В самом начале ролики показана успешная засада явно не против 40-й армии. Разгромленная колонна не похожа на колонну советской армии.

    • @user-pr7mf5uh4m
      @user-pr7mf5uh4m 3 місяці тому +1

      Это афганская армия.

  • @JOBEMANUEL
    @JOBEMANUEL 5 місяців тому +1

    Até a imagem daqui aquele canal mundo militar pegou kkkkk kk . Pqp .

  • @PenskePC17
    @PenskePC17 5 місяців тому +2

    People use to look so unique to their country. Maybe it was regional haircuts 😂

  • @tonyparete6892
    @tonyparete6892 4 місяці тому

    I guess no one from the Pentagon watched this before saddling up for OIF/OEF, a.k.a. Round 2.

  • @BrettonFerguson
    @BrettonFerguson 5 місяців тому

    Afghanistan defeated the British Empire at their height. Defeated the USSR. Then George Bush Jr came along and was like "We can do it. The US military is built for guerrilla warfare".
    At least the USSR was smart enough to pull out after 8 years.

    • @nicholacousins8563
      @nicholacousins8563 2 місяці тому

      Wouldn't say beat the British just one battle 3000 of them an mostly porters an woman and the army which was there had no weapons

  • @jayfelsberg1931
    @jayfelsberg1931 5 місяців тому

    50:59 - Jepers, where to begin....

  • @AnwaraliAnwaralikhan-pi8gw
    @AnwaraliAnwaralikhan-pi8gw 5 місяців тому

    Great afghan❤

  • @jayfelsberg1931
    @jayfelsberg1931 5 місяців тому

    And this is the place where, in the words of Tucker Carlson, we trued to turn it into Belgium

  • @gurbakhsingh9665
    @gurbakhsingh9665 3 місяці тому +1

    "Sikh GERNEL HARI SINGH NALWA"

  • @eduardodavid1021
    @eduardodavid1021 5 місяців тому +1

    Toma Ianques, essa obsessão de querer dominar o mundo: Apoiou o fundamentalismo Islâmico e depois foi vítima dele 😅

  • @Ghurshah
    @Ghurshah 4 місяці тому

    US had total control over Pakistani reaponse in Afghanistan during the USSR invasion and during its own invasion. The aim then was an Islamist regime in the service of Pakistan controlling Afghanistan. That goal was finally achieved jn 2021.

  • @robertplatte5700
    @robertplatte5700 5 місяців тому +1

    Don't forget to mention the16000 british people soldiers and civilians who were killed by the Afghans in the late 1800's, the Afghans hunted them from Kabul to the Khyber pass killed all but a handful

    • @dmitrey5578
      @dmitrey5578 5 місяців тому

      А все потому что, Англичане строили там конц-лагеря и убивали мирняк, вот и ответ последовал , глупенький ты

    • @dmitrey5578
      @dmitrey5578 5 місяців тому

      Ведь эта очередная колония капиталистов была по выкачиванию ресурсов

  • @user-mt5dr7cv4k
    @user-mt5dr7cv4k 5 місяців тому +1

    🌏Iraq remains a powerful force in the world

  • @user-ms9ji5sj7k
    @user-ms9ji5sj7k 4 місяці тому

    The Russian invaded the hole country in 1979 but could not control the country side especially the mountains where guerrilla warfare took place

  • @byron8657
    @byron8657 5 місяців тому

    In three Anglo Afghan war in the close of the 18th century A British writer wrote about the Afghan warriors; Where can you find a Jihadist fighters that when he aims at the muzzle of his gun he saw heaven opening in front of him! K

  • @JoApp893
    @JoApp893 5 місяців тому

    And who is now the occupier and murderer? The Soviets Didn't flee at night

  • @muhammadnoorbinrohani39
    @muhammadnoorbinrohani39 5 місяців тому +1

    USSR VS AFGHANISTAN

  • @amosfari7779
    @amosfari7779 5 місяців тому

    Zbigniew Brzezinski - красавчик! Просто показал духам пальчиком )) Нам это видео на политинформациях крутили.

  • @thenadonation2664
    @thenadonation2664 5 місяців тому +1

    Then what did we do? Fight a 20 year uselsss war there.

  • @johnathandaviddunster38
    @johnathandaviddunster38 Місяць тому

    😅😮😢

  • @peckerdecker
    @peckerdecker Місяць тому

    Bring on *Rambo III*

  • @user-pr7mf5uh4m
    @user-pr7mf5uh4m 3 місяці тому +1

    На кадрах атака на афганскую армию. Погибшие афганцы а не русский.

  • @nomoneyglobal
    @nomoneyglobal 5 місяців тому +8

    In Soviet Russia insurgency drive you

  • @Karlsvensson777
    @Karlsvensson777 5 місяців тому

    2 million Afghani were killed from the Soviets...

  • @sjoormen1
    @sjoormen1 4 місяці тому

    Nothing beats Americans explaining things they don't understand.