...and why is the Medium Format Film Photography from the set of Fallout so Good?
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- In todays episode I hunt down the identity of the Fallout TV series Stills Photographer whose medium format film photography shot on Kodak Portra 120 was shared unaccredited on Instagram.
This ones close to my heart as I've shot square medium format for over 20 years and this would have been a dream assignment.
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Hey all, thanks for watching. Here's a link to the photographers IG: instagram.com/jojowhilden
Thank you for shining a light on this. Incredible!
Congratulations. I think productions are realizing how valuable the behind the scenes photos/video/stories are. Glad they are upping their games. Thanks.
In the show, there is also a Mamiya RB67 used during the first scenes where one of the main characters begins collaborating with Vault Tec.
Yep! I noticed that instantly as an RB67 owner & it made me so happy🤣
I just watched that scene and that photographer was jamming those shots so fast 😂
@@meyers323 too fast tbh lol
Yep I noticed that and went and hugged mine. Lol.
Really impressed that JoJo Whilden shot on medium format film - that ain't easy particularly when you're limited to 12 shots on a roll.
You could have a ton of film backs with people loading them as needed and swapping them is quick and easy.
or 24 frames. Many medium format film backs/cameras support 220, which is a double roll of 120 medium format.
@@EKF_FC Yes but there is very little, if any, 220 roll film made nowadays - so if she shot recently she almost certainly used 120 film
@@NicSkerten that’s too bad. I used to live by it.
She deserves so much more credit!! You can do so much with these kinds of photos, it's a shame she isn't mentioned more.
I genuinely would be so interested in photos from a film set where the photographer takes pictures in which the cast acts like they are being photographed in the actual world of the movie in character.
Hostile characters would maybe be in the midst of attacking or intimidating and so on.. The Photographer could tell their own view of the story with the pictures..
I feel like these images come close to that idea, but there is still so much untapped potential in the concept!:)
Congrats on getting your channel monetized! Yours is by far my favorite photography channel!
Last week i was finally able to find a copy of your book „the unseen“, after months of looking. 😁
That is a really really really cool idea! They probably do that in some way right? Like method actors don't break character? And I'm glad you got a copy of the unseen, there won't be a 2nd edition.... And thank you for watching and digging what I'm doing! Photography, photography never changes.....
This is exactly what on set photograpres in the 80s did. All of the original star wars bubblegum cards were promo photos taken my the set photog, rather than frame grabs from the films like later images. Somwehere along the way the artistry and storytelling seemed to leave the on set photo scene, maybe as cheap hacks took over the photog roles. Or maybe they were briefed by boring pople and/or not allowed the time to do theor job well.
hey! - this is exactly our job - any image you normally see from a production is taken from the stills photographers perspectives - even the thumbnails you see on Netflix when scrolling through.
@@matttowers348 the last few weeks i have been researching about unit still photography! It‘s so interesting.
Whats a bummer though is that the photographer’s usually don‘t have any right to the images.
Street photography style photos taken on film sets would probably make an amazing book!
@@matttowers348 gimme a job!!!! 🤠
All of my hobbies in one video. Awesome.
I'm literally playing Fallout 4 again because of the series!!!
Awesome stuff, I saw the pics as well and really liked their aesthetic; exactly as you said, one can imagine the photographer is really a character in the universe of Fallout reporting on the other people that exist within that context. Also, nice to see another Black Lodge Press fan!
Thank you! And wow! You are the first person to notice the Black Lodge Press nod! The calenders been up for weeks!
Jojo did an amazing job and you are right, the vibe and people staying somewhat in character brings a phenomenally hard to explain photograph that everyone can enjoy. The fallout universe in interesting and wacky, these photos show off how people playing the games imagine the world they are immersing themselves in and to finally see props/items/people in the context like Jojo was really in the world is so surreal and fascinating. Every image she shot looks unique and perfect utilizing film, it's incredibly hard to explain but the vibe and methods are just perfectly complementary to eachother.
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I think every film production should have a dedicated behind the scenes person or mini crew. The making of these is just as interesting to me as the end product itself. The making of "her" and "lost in translation" are some of my favorite documentaries ever. (also they're on youtube I really recommend watching them)
Totally agree 💯. There's no excuse with digital cameras now is there? It's not like they have to pay for shooting on film. There's some great ones online like the one for Aliens is amazing. The one for Dusk Till Dawn is pretty cool too. Hey! Makers of amazing sci-fi movies! Let's make the behind the scenes of your films! Hey studios! If the film bombs our behind the scenes documentary is going to succeed! 👍
I'd buy a book of those photos, that's amazing
Great images! Because she is "part of the movie" it is so much more engaging. C9ngrats on monetisation. I am about halfway there.
I mean I know some people might have heard that and be like 'what the heck are you're talking about? so I'm very pleased you understood what I was getting at. I didn't have trouble getting the subscribers it was getting the watch hours that was really difficult. Where are you at at the moment?
I just subscribed to your channel
I hadn't read Dillon Thomas since I was a kid back in 1988. That was a super fun quote to see on a photographers merch.
Most folks think its a RATM shirt!
Love film photography and fallout but somehow i had not seen any of these photographs! Thank you for sharing, and the industry definitely needs to start giving more credit to the photographers...
You're welcome! Its weird isn't it? You think with metadata and our ability to add keywords to digital files that it should be pretty easy to give credit. It could be the case that on big jobs the clients own the rights outright... but that still should mean they credit the photographer.
Fascinating stuff! Gotta check out the series soon
It's very good. I've been playing the Fallout games since the early 00's and it's been done very well. A lesson to all those trying to make computer games into live action.
I knew nothing about these existing! Thanks for sharing this!!
I wish the show looked like the photos. Gritty and filmic
Fantastic video!
Thanks @KillerTacos54 ! What makes a killer taco!? 🌮
Great stuff (both the photographers work, and your video). Are you familiar with Brian Roedel who also does medium format set photography? He worked on the Iron Claw movie.
Thank you, and I am not familiar with their work! Getting some great suggestions in the comments here about stills photographers. Thank you for sharing and I'm googling them NOW!
Shot on a Hasselblad 500 cm, with 80mm Planar lens and Portra 400. No twin eye but same film format. :)
For sure, in my head she was in the game/series rocking the twin lens!
@@PicturesOnMyMind Yeah in the game there are only twin eyes, but the set photographers where taken with a Hasselblad :)
@@seventeendegree are you sure it was definitely not a Bronica? I hear they are really good 😉 If anyone from Bronica is reading this I will be your camera ambassador.
@@PicturesOnMyMind I'm sure about the Hasselblad :) She also mentioned it somewhere. I agree! Bronicas are phantastic! For beginners, I'd recommend a Pentacon Six. Stunning Zeiss lenses :)
Almost makes me wish the show was shot like this
Congratulations on getting monetised. 😀
Thanks Michael.... yeah it should have been sorted in January but stuff got weird. Anyway, all sorted now. I was going to start smoking again but I don't think £2.68 covers a 10 pack of Marlboroughs anymore.
@@PicturesOnMyMind That is 3 Mars bars, or 2 Morrisons lemon muffins. Sounds like a win to me. 😆
Did anyone else notice how a guy was taking pictures of the birthday party with a Brownie Hawkeye during the first episode?
Stumbled across your channel and glad I did! Good luck on your quest to become an onset stills photographer! 🖖
Thanks Samuel! 🍀
Congrats for the monetization!
Thank you, most months I won't get anything... but if I have a video blow up again and get 70,000 views in a week then I'll get some cash. And I think that's fair. It certainly has spurred me on. It doesn't feel like I've been doing this for a year. I've got 100 videos I want to do and loads of photographers most people have never heard of that I'd love to talk to.
@@PicturesOnMyMind do a live talk every week for the super chats! // stuff that people never heard off, that's exciting. I don't want to hear any of the big sharks again.
@@jbentosimoes I don't even know what a super chat is! Ha! Googling now
@@PicturesOnMyMind Lots of cash in there with your youtube subscribers sending questions or commenting on a live show. UA-cam takes a 30% cut
My favourite thing is Kodak shared uncorrected scans on their account (with attribution), while the photographer posted color and black point corrected images.
I am wondering if Kodak is run by a ‘editing is cheating’ bro, haha.
Oh wow! no way. Thats cool. Tbf I've shot 120 for 20+ years and I barely correct anything apart from dust and scratches. Still pretty cooooll.
What a great little video, I'll be checking back soon.
Thanks John! Please do!
I've done on set photography, it's just i 'forgot' to ask permission. LOL!
Cooooool. What film was it?
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Congratulations!
Thank you!
I mean if we start with the tagging question, shouldn’t the DoP who created the lighting of the photo and set designers be tagged as well
Interestingly enough, a lot of the portraits emulate old 1800s portrait photos, ie the sort of thing you would see in a western which ties in really well with the western themes present in a lot of the Fallout universe. That one of Ella Purnell(Lucy) where she has the blood staining her tank top is a great example, also the father and son standing together.
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Very f’n cool
One thing I noticed in the series was the completely unmasked Mamiya RZ67 being used in the studio for the cooper howard shoot
Someone said it was an RB67 in an earlier comment... do I need to watch the series again now? ha!
what really stood out is the 4 enclave scientist photographed as if it was a ww2, really good combo
Standard, the only person who isn’t credited is the person who actually took the photo lol.
Oh this rules man. I saw this but it didnt even click in my brain they were actually shot on 120. Theres a couple scenes in the prewar segments with a mamiya
Amazing video! I think JoJo was using a Hasselblad 500 for those shots
Hate people/companies who don’t credit.
Now I have to keep an eye on film prices again. Damn.
Good unit stills photography can really elevate a production. I know a local photographer who made the leap to unit stills and has worked on the likes of Silent Witness and Responder. The gig I would have given my eye teeth for was unit stills photographer on Game of Thrones but Helen Sloan got there first - for all 8 seasons!
Wow! That's amazing! And I'll check out Helen Sloan now. Thanks Nic
@@PicturesOnMyMind Worth watching this SmugMug UA-cam edition with her work being showcased and discussed ua-cam.com/video/kyHmysBqRXw/v-deo.html
@@PicturesOnMyMind Worth watching this episode of the Smugmug live streams, as it was how I first heard of her ua-cam.com/video/kyHmysBqRXw/v-deo.html
ha, great video! 100% subscribing.
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Amazing.
Thank you Hugo
The pictures on the Kodak IG account are tagged and Jojo is mentioned in the description, dunno if that's edited or it was like that from the start
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Dennis Hopper style. I don't think modern film have that kind of drug budgets any more!
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So...I take it these were shot during rehearsals or in between takes?
Because I was taught in Uni that on-set photography while cameras are rolling isn't allowed even with a DSLR due to the noises (like the shutter)
Yeah it looks like it. Though sometimes they will keep people in shot and be doing stuff and a stills photographer can swoop in.
Set stills photographers used to use camera blimps, and current union requirements ask for a9 / z9 style shutters which operete silently.
@@runcmd1419 will the union let me use my Bronica?
@@PicturesOnMyMind lol, probably. But they have minimums for hours work and gear owned, including lenses that cover 14-200 at 2.8, adequate storage, adequate computer, in order to join.
@@runcmd1419 ah.... 🤣
Let me help you with monetization!
Awesome video by the way, medium format is amazing!
Looks like modded screenshots from the game!
Hey Ed. You know why she got to shoot these? Because she's using a real medium format camera, none of your poopy pant Bronica stuff! :D
There's been many examples of really good promotional imagery in the past - Mad Men springs to mind - especially the later seasons.
I wonder when/if this idea of flat, direct into camera environmental portraits will pass. It's been around since basically forever (Hill/Adamson - BTW did you know you can rent their studio as an AirBnB?)
Thanks for sharing her work - I loved the show. Hope there's more.
BTW, might be helpful if you linked to her IG account ;)
How dare you! Bronica 4 life!
Is there not an external link to her IG at the end of the video? I couldn't do it before being monetized but it's something I can do now, right?
@@PicturesOnMyMind see I had one of those and then moved onto Hasselblad. That’s why I’m a real photographer!
There wasn’t a link at the end of the video 😟
@@ThePhotographicEye Its not what you've got, its how you use it... right Alex? I've pinned their IG for now as comment. Not going to mess with the video now its rolling. The lengths I had to go to find her through the unattributed posts on IG. Thankfully Kodak shared the work recently and they DID tag her in it. Is this where you say you prefer shooting with Fuji?
@@PicturesOnMyMind did you not try a reverse image search? That usual gives some clues
If I had to buy a MF again it would be a replacement for my 500c
This could’ve just been a tweet
why didnt they credit the photographer though?
I'm not sure. Someone in the comments said that maybe because the studios owned the rights they didn't need/bother. to. I've done assignments for clients who bought out the copyright and they rarely tag me when they post my photos.
Do you shoot a zeiss nettar like the one you have in your intro? Shot mine for the first time the other day and the take up spool is a nightmare, a 120 spool is a pain to get in and the film is too loose, and a 620 reel is no where near big enough to fitd on the spool holders
Yeah, since 2001. Some of the work from it was in national geographic magazine and won a sony world photo award! Amazing what you do when you can't afford a hasselblad! Ha! I got a bronica sq-a in 2004 and shot most of my photo projects on that ever since. I've got a previous video (my only kit video!) comparing my ikonta to my Fuji gf670.
@PicturesOnMyMind haha and here I am, had an sq-a for a while and just got my nettar. An Ikonta is the goal! I do remember watching your gear video but I see new gear videos daily as a camera retailer, it all blurs into one eventually! So what spool have you been using? I know some people modify their 120 spools
@@MrConna6 I got mine from a camera shop and it just fit 120. I spent 20 years thinking it was a super ikonta.... Turned out it was an ikonta M.
@PicturesOnMyMind interesting, gonna have too do some more research I think, I keep having customers coming in asking about this recently and I wish I had an answer for them xD I think it may be to do with the tensioners being loaded for 220 film
This is your CV?
No, that's in two videos time. 👍
I swear people get brownie points just for using film cameras lol
It's aesTHetic. TH. As in prosTHetic.
Thanks Dave, damn. You know I shot an old folding 120 camera for 25 years and got work from it into National Geographic Magazine and won a Sony World Photo world award with it.... and the whole time I told everyone it was a super ikonta. Turned out it was an Ikonta M! Yeah some guy corrected me after I made a UA-cam video about it!
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they're very average. i hate to be the negative one but life is both positive and negative so someone has to do it. they look like snapshots but taken with medium format. hardly processed too. some people just really like the medium format aesthetic
I think the story was that Amazon put out the straight scans before she had a chance to do any post on them. I still dig them and for me it would have been a dream assignment. Thankfully, in the autumn of my years, I am able to celebrate others photographic successes.
You maded nearly 3 quid!!!! So when do you get to retire? LOL!!!
I maded it!
Here's my 2pence worth
I mean really it should be 2 caps....
To me these photos are nothing special, just square pictures with random flat composition with a bland and low contrasty look. Could even be taken with a phone camera and look just the same except for a bit shallower DoF on some of them (and of course if blown up on something bigger than Instagram the low resolution of a phone would become more apparent).
Well I've always adored square format ever since coming across the work of Diane Arbus and I've spent 20+ years shooting square medium format myself, so yes, to me they are magic. I see sort of little things within the compostitons, like the framing for the SD mart logo in the top left of one of the the Lucy/Ella portraits. My adoration for this work is totally subjective, but that's the same for all art, isn't it? For me it's the idea of using a camera that exists in a sci-fi world to make the film stills on, that's the gnarly thing. For sure historically loads of film still work was made on 120 but not anymore. It's the following of the rules/world of the TV show/game that make the use of medium format so interesting to me.
@gurratell7326, I’m sure photographers that you like might evoke the same reaction from others. just because you don’t like it doesn’t not make it special
@@PicturesOnMyMind Yeah square photos can of course look really nice! And I bet these looks way better on something bigger than Instagram or my laptop screen where you can appreciate the image quality that medium format can deliver.
And of course art is subjective, so I don't take it away from you that you like these, I just wanted to share my opinion the same way that you shared yours :)
Flat and boring images, but shot on film so of course they get more praise than they should.