Something I neglected to talk about was the possibility of a Dual Carry team with Changli or Brant. I think these will be her best teams on launch, but the goal was to highlight how Phoebe Hypercarry is a flawed archetype that just has no good buffers
Changli or Brant? Why not run both? If the leaks about Brant being capable of healing, depending on how strong his healing is, you can just run Changli/Brant/Phoebe. Although I don't know if the dmg will be lower than if you just run SK with them.
outro buffs always give full power no matter what, mortefi will increase heavy atk dmg by 38% no matter what, no matter how much heavy/elemental dmg bonus you already have
@@koks49045 Phoebe's self-buffs aren't dmg bonus, she gives herself amplification (she is the first character to do that) , the same type of buff mortefi does. While it may change or can be a translation issue, the way the kit is leaked this 38% will be additive with phoebe's 160%, so will not be as noticeable.
@@Gheniel_zhezhi??? She also has an essay of texts, in teory it’s just Intro basic atk 3 times e basic lib and echo but her kit does not explain that well
@BrunucomU-e8y I'm talking about reading kit, Zhezhi's kit has alot of jargon and big wall of text. Phoebe's on other hand is kinda easy to understand as long as you have knowledge about the game's combat. So while her kit is easy on practice, her kit in theory/text is difficult to understand.
so she basically can be dps nuke can be stationary off-field dps with her skill can be nuker with heavy and lib multipliers can suck enemies infinitely with the skill can supp future dot chars with 50% more dmg, shred and duration what can she not do balans, pretty unkippable if you ask mme
on the other hand: she requires other characters to apply the new spectral debuff for her she doesn't provide generally useful benefits to other characters (except damage on outro) she is designed around being on a spectral team, yet has poor synergy with Jinhsi she is centered around her intro buff, making her a poor on-fielder she doesn't work with any existing sub-dps (or main dps) she has dot and over time damage effects, which are inferior to getting damage right now she needs enemies to be inside of her AoE circle she ideally also wants to be inside of her AoE circle unless her ability to group enemies is literally effortless / god-tier, she is bad investment Even if we suppose that Zani is a perfect partner for her, then what? Are you going to use her with Zani for the remainder of game's lifetime? The next cool character you may want is unlikely to be a spectral character and the new spectral character releasing in 2 years time is unlikely to work with her. Short version, Phoebe has has sold her soul to the new spectral mechanic. She always was a naive girl.
As of now she's only great as dps with spectro rover as her support or became a support for spectro rover dps haha. but yeah she's rather cheap to build team wise because either sanhua/mortefi with spectro rover work quite well with her.
I hope they change her sequence. She’s literally what I look for in a character and planning to run her as main DPS. So I’m inclined to get her full sequence 😮💨
She deals a general spectro damage. Meaning for a hypercarry, all she needs is a spectro buffing character(currently there's only Verina S4 that can do that). DoTs and Pheobe basically adds more roles to fill for Kuro, because right now we only have buffers for either damage type + element type or damage type only. We don't have any sub-buffers specialized for a single element type yet. A DoT buffer is also possible or a mix of it with either element type or damage type. Regardless of anything, at the least we know damage type + element type buffers exists, so we just have to wait one for Spectro. There's also another thing that's possible, maybe what Pheobe needs is a specialized sustain, rather than a specialized sub dps buffer. The sustain will only buff only one damage type, and the sub dps she needs will be anyone who can remotely help her apply Spectro Frazzle and of course do damage, with no actual buffing capabilities. It will basically be dual dps. Honestly, as long as her numbers are serviceable it could literally be anything.
I think it was bound to happened that they would have to release a character that needed another but I think I’d rather have her be a little weird to play than have her best teammate on the same banner and possibly have to skip
Unfortunately as It stands, Phoebe seems to be not too compatible with Jinshi and is only really set for Zani, a character I do not want. I've wanted Phoebe because of her amazing design and her animations look incredible, but I might consider skipping. I'm not sure if I should just pull Zezhi now.
I have both Carlotta and Jinhsi with their weapon and I could clear the TOA with a team of both of them together. I think if you get Phoebe’s weapon you can even run Carlotta and Phoebe or Jinhsi and Phoebe together.
“Spectro Rover has no way to buff Phoebe” -10% Spectro RES: Am I a joke to you? Also enabling new spectro set for Phoebe is a significant buff itself, she just will have a higher Crit ceiling than other characters. P.S. Make Spectro Rover great again!
@@firby7341 yeah, that’s facts, dude. Did you know you can also use heal set on any character by giving them blue weapon Originite: Type I/II/III/IV/V?
She is having 61 crit rate at base 😂 36 from weapon, 20 from echo set and 5 base Now imagine her inherent skills have crit rate ,that means she's at 69 crit rate without any tuned echoes I'm definitely pulling her,the only problem is that her sig is currently only useful for her
I feel like you're missing the part where rover can load a target with frazzle stacks then use their Shimmer to lock their frazzle stacks for 9 seconds so by the time you swap to Phoebe they still have frazzle stacks for her to deal dmg off of
With how frazzle scales, she seems like a high floor low ceiling type of character that is good for f2p cheap teams as long as you can find teammates for her.
really really don’t like the design of “this characters kit is tied to another premium character and also said character is not even out yet” i wanted to pull for phoebe but she’s literally going to add nothing to my account
tbh, this kit is giving me Changli feels. She's probably gonna be dealing good damage like Changli does, despite the fact she doesn't have an actual partner yet. I mean, right no, Changli still has no actual partner despite being released way back in 1.1. We don't have any Fire DPS units that focuses entirely on their Liberation damage. I am still pulling for her though. I mean, at the end of the day, makig proper teams is only important when doing tower. Aside from that, you can slap in any unit you want during explorations and quests.
I think she confuses players a lot, because it was thought that she would be support or healer, and ended up being a kind of main dps and sub dps, but so far I do not find a good team for her unless it is with Rover, I don't think many convene her.
If she has 2 modes (main dps and supp) I hope she can use it both? Like she can use her main dps mode when on field and swap to support mode when shes about to leave. It’s a bummer if we can only utilize one at a time.
I have Yinlin's weapon, do you think it will be enough for Phoebe or there will be a lot of difference with her own weapon. Weapon yinlin Stringmaster: Increases the DMG Bonus by 12%. When dealing Resonance Skill DMG, increases ATK by 12%, stacking up to 2. This effect lasts for 5s. When the equipped Resonator is not on the field, increases their ATK by an additional 12%. By the way, good video, I needed it.
@@ThundahPrimeI've always felt Stringmaster was insane asf for any main/sub DPS rectifier. Not just because its effect is widely applicable, but also because it's an insane crit rate stat stick, making it unnecessary to roll double crit on every single echo, especially for sub-DPS characters.
If you're not planning to pull her weapon it's fine,but her weapon gives her a lot of buffs ,there will be quite some dmg difference but hopefully it won't be that severe like static mist and last dance
At first I thought she would be a good match for Jinshi but it turns out she's a DPS I already got Charlotta Zhezhi so it was quite difficult because Jinshi needed her too
You could go yuanwu and spectro rover though if zhezhi is not available. Or use taoqi sanhua or lumi for carlotta if you use zhezhi on jinhsi. Prolly not the best but there are other options, idk if im right as i don't have jinhsi.
by the time zani comes out, phoebe will most likely get a rerun. looking at how they like to put main and sub-dps in the same banner, they might rerun phoebe when zani comes out, or maybe a patch later. either way, its a skip for me rn. I'm not sure about pulling for zani, so I'd rather keep my pulls until she comes out
I think Phoebe will get her rerun around 2.4 So far we only got Xiangli Yao with 2 patches between his banners, Jiyan and Zhezhi with 3, Yinlin and Jinhsi with 4 and changli will have 5 or more. So it's more likely that upcoming characters will also have 3 or 4 patches between banners (depends on if they do double rerun banners per patch or not)
Phoebe isn't going to have a rerun when Zani is released because obviously it's just a recent patch. If I were you, pull for her as soon as her banner is released.
@@mourningprudenceI wouldn’t say that since Zhezhi and Xiangli Yao were both released in 1.2 and one had a rerun in 2 patches (Xiangli Yao in latter half of 1.4) and the other had one 3 patches later (Zhezhi in 2.0) so I’d believe it if kuro wanted to run a unit that synergises well and has the 2-3 patch in between last run idea. Even more so if they went even longer than that Edit: I was mistaken for the synergy but of phoebe but I still think she’ll come around zani’s banner if not on it
I agree, except about the extra crit chance on her signature weapon. 50% extra crit chance from her weapon is amazing for crit scaling. You could get 90/270!, which is a near perfect stat allocation for the amount invested into crit. No other character has been able get so high on the crit scaling before. Game developers always mess up characters which has a trade-off mechanic (absolution vs. confession). Somehow, it gets balanced as if it's an advantage to be able to do two things poorly. The more I think about at it, the less free-to-play friendly she seems. A main dps which REQUIRES other characters to apply a specific type of debuff is terribly inflexible long-term. On top of that, she applies a "mark" on the ground and the radius isn't generous. She also ideally want to stand inside of it herself as well. There are many scenarios where this is awkward or outright non-functional, for example good luck fighting the Flame Rider boss with it, or anything that flies. Her "confession mode" doesn't turn her into a good sub-dps. Nothing in her kit other then that measly 10% reduced spectral resistances is helpful to other characters, no attack buffs or other generally useful things. Quicker rotations doesn't matter when the rotations themselves do low damage and doesn't provide enough utility. The video glanced over it quickly, but her s2 somewhat solves her kit and makes it functional without support from other characters. "When the star" giving 2 layers of the new spectral debuff gives her a functional rotation, something to work towards in the 10 seconds after entering combat. At the same time, the new spectral set requires you to be at 10 stacks to get the damage bonus, which it doesn't look like she can reach on her own. "Damage over time" and "static area of effect" effects need to do significantly more damage to be worth it. She'd need to melt faster then Jinshi, at the very least in AoE situations. But even if she is amazing in certain modes, such as Pincer, I don't think it's wise to get her as a free-to-play. A main dps a ftp-player gets needs to be flexible - work standalone, in many team comps, in all combat scenarios etc. We're talking upwards of 38k astride for a situational inflexible main dps character which may get power-creep. I hope they rework the kit, or that we are missing some information.
Doesn't Italian Jinshi supposed to be spectro DoT dps instead of Zani? I remember seeing it but it was long time ago. Pb seems like released too early (like Zhezhi but imagine Jinshi didn't existed in 1.1). But I'm still gonna pull her for future investment when that spectro DoT dps comes out so I won't be worry about pulling 2 unit at the same time.
I'm getting her because i do not have spectro dps in my account and i need one because the toa new buffs are insane i used to clear it easy but now man i need characters no matter how they perform or what is thr outcome..
I love Phoebe and i love how unique her kit is, but they are spreading her too thin. I think it’s better for a character to have a focus in their kit and in Phoebe’s case it should be DoT. If it were up to me, her Forte would focus on overcapping Frazzle and increasing the amount of damage it has. After applying 10 stacks of Frazzle, her enhanced basics from activating her resonance skill would stack Prayer, adding 1 more stack of Frazzle than allowed. Once 10 additional Frazzle stacks are added (forte is full) enemies affected by Frazzle receive the gospel debuff, in which their spectro res is greatly reduced. Team members’ attacks should also be able to trigger frazzle manually. Additionally her Resonance skill should make Frazzle last for 30 seconds.
I installed this game late and missed jinshi, jiyan,yinlin Its a big loss but however i managed to get changli, camellya, shorekeeper,yao,carlotta so far. But i still regret not pulling zhezhi for my carlotta But finally a new spectro dps is coming, hopefully she'll replace the lack of jinshi type character for me😅
You are underestimating Spectro Rover way too much, with his new buffs in 2.0, he can destroy everything in ToA. He also shreds upto 20% Spectro Resistence so that is a huge bonus for Phoebe tbh. Also most of us already have him built, probably have an Emerald of Genesis and a good moonlit set on hand as well, so we can have a Phoebe team up and running easily
@@ThundahPrimeA lot players have beeen disapoibt about the midle tower of the TOA changes the bonus to especific resistanses make hard to clear, and it seems going to be a comon thing from now, so i Guess lower the resistances have a impact btw
@@ThundahPrimebrother , spectro rover can literally solo some of the tower floors , don't think you understand how big of a buff spectro frazzle along with the new set is
Question is healer or dps rover build. I'm thinking overture, rejuvenating glow, healing bonus and atk If Rover is built for dps, 3rd slot has to be a healer because a 100% atk heal every rotation is too low
At this point i'm about to use the Cosmic Ripples on her, I bet the DOT use Attk value to scale, and the basic attack bonus can be stacks and least for more seconds 🤔
How much worse would she be with Zheshis signature? 500 Atk + 72 Cr.Dmg 12% Atk Increase Basic attack by 12% every time Resonance Skill is used for up to 3x Even if she can't make use of the passive i feel like a Cr.Dmg. weapon would be amazing on her as a second option since Eternal Radiance gives 20% crit rate already 🤔
As it stands right now, Brant seems to be the better banner in 2.1. Phoebe's in a really tight spot, not only is she running with Shorekeeper rerun, but a lot of people seem to have decided to save their pulls for Fleurdelys. Brant on the other hand not only already has Changli, but he's looking like a pretty universal character.
Considering the future end-game content, her kit is just bullshit. I was disappointed with Brant's role and animations. I really liked Phoebe's animations, but I was very disappointed with her kit. Why should I pull for a character that just won't work without debuffs, like Dr. Ratio(hsr)? I am really sad :C Hope they will change that, atleast with dupes.
Shes a spectro DPS, I have Jinshi already, I'm going to skip and save. Get Shorekeeper instead since I need a healer, but to those who don't have a DPS she might be pretty good, but DONT SPEND.
lets push back against this kind of design, we don't kuro to go down hoyo route...what we have right now is great where we are not forced to rely on teams and teammates,yes there are but prfomacne is like 5-10% lower than best team. What matters more is your perfomance on the field rather than what rotation or follow teammate formula. Character should be desinged independent of any other character/element mechanic in mind, like me as a solo character vs holo 6 boss
i doubt she will powercreep jinhsi as of current roster also i hope they change her weapon to crit dmg since she's overcaping on crit even without shorekeeper buff can you make a video on brant as well? Thanks
Should I go for pheobe or storekeeper? Cause I have Carlotta but no zhezhi for her or jhinshi (I have both but I run Carlotta in quickswap). On the other side I only have s2 Verina and baizhi for healers and I want both pheobe and shorekeeper😭💔.
I genuinely hope there will be more changes to her kit cause I don't find it appealing for me. It's kinda convoluted because of the spectro mechanic but her future potential as a quickswap sub dps/support is actually awesome especially if Zani is indeed a spectro character that relies on heavy attack or other units in the future that can utilize her buffs. Her main dps playstyle lacks dedicated buffers/supports as well and I don't wanna wait 10 patches just to make her compete with other top dps in the game. Overall, she is interesting but definitely needs a couple of changes.
Damn, not a fan of her kit tbh. You mentioned all the problems already. I already dislike that they made carlottla and Zhezhi a pair, kinda. You can use Zhezhi in a different team, sure. But Carlotta almost seems to be tailored to Zhezhi. Characters should be able to stand alone, neither completely ridiculous nor a complete moot. And i feel like she will be compatible with the new sentinel's resonator.
For someone like me that just started playing at 2.0 and got carlotta and her weapon pretty early, what are the characters to focus on? Is phoebe good for a new account?
if you want a really good team, get changli on her rerun(should be at some point in 2.1). they work INCREDIBLY well together if you put in some time to learn them. also, Shorekeeper will probably get a rerun in 2.1 as well, so get her if you can afford it. those 3 are a good enough team for you to clear everything in the game except ToA(need 3 teams for that).
The best characters to grab in my opinion would be Zhezhi, Jinhsi, amd Shorekeeper. Zhezhi is an incredible support for both Jinhsi and Carlotta, who are both top tier DPS's and Shorekeeper is a broken healer. Phoebe is a good character for early accounts because she has very cheap teammates, with Rover being one of her best, but her performance in late game will depend on what Zani's kit looks like. I disagree with the other commenter promoting Changli, because her teams require much more stat investment, weapon investment and skill to play
@ThundahPrime thats entirely valid, i might be underestimating how much i put into changli. What you said might be a bit too much to get(4 characters in 2 patches is quite a lot), but its a wonderful start for an Account.
I think I finally understood what's the idea behind this combat system. The characters amplify their own damage by using specific key combos individual for each character. Not much is going on outside of the character's kit though: there are very little interaction between characters and none between their elements.
@@axylum4453 yeah, the more I look the more I'm convinced GI is unique in that regard. Not even sheer WW fanservice can make up for that. I play both, don't want to miss any, but GI still feels better.
@@atomsk9000 I'm the complete opposite. I dislike the emphasis on elements and team building in genshin because that takes away from mechanical skill. Most characters are swap in use skill use ultimate, swap out. Elemental reactions also ends up locking characters into specific team comps that may have playstyles you don't enjoy (geo teams especially). WuWa has more emphasis on quickswapping, parrying, techs like animation cancels etc. Feels more like an action game than Genshin which is just a bunch of numbers and colors in actual combat imo
@@axylum4453 Only if you play by reflexes. The elemental system in GI enable ton of fun interactions like using campfire to ignite the enemy or knock them out by applying electro. Most people tend to overlook it because all they care about is closed arena fights, but this is done better in other games. GI is more about open world experience, everything else is optional.
@@yassarinn When left forte bar is full, do heavy atk for dps mode or hold skill for sub dps mode dps mode deals high damage if enemies have spectro DoT sub dps mode applies spectro DoT and buffs it ult is big nuke that gets buffed in DPS mode skill creates mirror that will buff your basics
Jinhsi needs other element coordinated attack sub-dps for her to shine, so no, she doesn't work with Jinhsi, im still waiting for a SUPPORT with coordinated attack that's not Spectro, but hey, Jinhsi is already OP af as it is lol
For my Jinshi I need a sub DPS that is not Spectro with coordinated attacks that enhances resonance skill damage... and that is not Zhezhi which is is reserved to buff Carlotta. And that's not Phoebe it seems...
@@charlieinsolaris you don't understand her kit completely then, i can clear middle tower fully with Jinhsi, yuanwu and baizhi simply because her forte recharges so fast because of coordinated attack from other elements zhezhi is amazing for her, but right now Carlotta needs her more than Jinhsi to perform as well
I was worried I was about to be forced to pull for this bland white bread character as a support for my Jinhsi since Carlotta stole her Zhezhi. Fortunately this looks to be the hardest skip ever for me.
I don't see any problem with it, just use atk% elements% set and you'll have plenty of base attack Look how many people's Carlotta have 2400+ base atk,tbh these weapon makes the character more easy to build and op Rn phoebe have 36% crit rate as sig weapon stats If you put 5 of the new spectro set without any tuning and have her weapon her base/starting crit rate is already at 61%(36+20+5)😂,she might be the easiest character to build rn and even if you roll the lowest crit rate on all echoes (6.3) She's having 92.5 % crit rate at the end of the day The first ever character to have 90+ crit rate at base with a crit dmg main piece
Something I neglected to talk about was the possibility of a Dual Carry team with Changli or Brant. I think these will be her best teams on launch, but the goal was to highlight how Phoebe Hypercarry is a flawed archetype that just has no good buffers
Changli or Brant? Why not run both? If the leaks about Brant being capable of healing, depending on how strong his healing is, you can just run Changli/Brant/Phoebe. Although I don't know if the dmg will be lower than if you just run SK with them.
one of them aren't receiving buffs and it's probably Phoebe@@WanderingPoro_217
@@WanderingPoro_217 because you need someone to apply Spectro Frazzle
outro buffs always give full power no matter what, mortefi will increase heavy atk dmg by 38% no matter what, no matter how much heavy/elemental dmg bonus you already have
@@koks49045 Phoebe's self-buffs aren't dmg bonus, she gives herself amplification (she is the first character to do that) , the same type of buff mortefi does. While it may change or can be a translation issue, the way the kit is leaked this 38% will be additive with phoebe's 160%, so will not be as noticeable.
who is here after seeing the kit text somewhere else but in his mind "I'm not going to read all that sh**"
She has one of the most readable kits of the game, its very easy compared to zhezhi's kit.
@@Gheniel_zhezhi??? She also has an essay of texts, in teory it’s just Intro basic atk 3 times e basic lib and echo but her kit does not explain that well
@BrunucomU-e8y I'm talking about reading kit, Zhezhi's kit has alot of jargon and big wall of text. Phoebe's on other hand is kinda easy to understand as long as you have knowledge about the game's combat.
So while her kit is easy on practice, her kit in theory/text is difficult to understand.
@@Gheniel_ let’s agree to disagree
so she basically
can be dps nuke
can be stationary off-field dps with her skill
can be nuker with heavy and lib multipliers
can suck enemies infinitely with the skill
can supp future dot chars with 50% more dmg, shred and duration
what can she not do
balans, pretty unkippable if you ask mme
Which part of her kit says she can support future DoT characters? Did I miss something?
on the other hand:
she requires other characters to apply the new spectral debuff for her
she doesn't provide generally useful benefits to other characters (except damage on outro)
she is designed around being on a spectral team, yet has poor synergy with Jinhsi
she is centered around her intro buff, making her a poor on-fielder
she doesn't work with any existing sub-dps (or main dps)
she has dot and over time damage effects, which are inferior to getting damage right now
she needs enemies to be inside of her AoE circle
she ideally also wants to be inside of her AoE circle
unless her ability to group enemies is literally effortless / god-tier, she is bad investment
Even if we suppose that Zani is a perfect partner for her, then what?
Are you going to use her with Zani for the remainder of game's lifetime?
The next cool character you may want is unlikely to be a spectral character and
the new spectral character releasing in 2 years time is unlikely to work with her.
Short version, Phoebe has has sold her soul to the new spectral mechanic. She always was a naive girl.
@@wanderingwatcher3981bro, wtf you just said..
As of now she's only great as dps with spectro rover as her support or became a support for spectro rover dps haha. but yeah she's rather cheap to build team wise because either sanhua/mortefi with spectro rover work quite well with her.
@@wanderingwatcher3981 what is dawg yapping about oml
I hope they change her sequence. She’s literally what I look for in a character and planning to run her as main DPS. So I’m inclined to get her full sequence 😮💨
She deals a general spectro damage. Meaning for a hypercarry, all she needs is a spectro buffing character(currently there's only Verina S4 that can do that).
DoTs and Pheobe basically adds more roles to fill for Kuro, because right now we only have buffers for either damage type + element type or damage type only. We don't have any sub-buffers specialized for a single element type yet. A DoT buffer is also possible or a mix of it with either element type or damage type.
Regardless of anything, at the least we know damage type + element type buffers exists, so we just have to wait one for Spectro.
There's also another thing that's possible, maybe what Pheobe needs is a specialized sustain, rather than a specialized sub dps buffer. The sustain will only buff only one damage type, and the sub dps she needs will be anyone who can remotely help her apply Spectro Frazzle and of course do damage, with no actual buffing capabilities. It will basically be dual dps.
Honestly, as long as her numbers are serviceable it could literally be anything.
Spectro rover can buff spectro characters wdym
@russlmao7091 No he does not what do you mean. He reduced Spectro res of enemies, that's different.
I think it was bound to happened that they would have to release a character that needed another but I think I’d rather have her be a little weird to play than have her best teammate on the same banner and possibly have to skip
We have DoT in Wuwa now. Lovely.
What is dot ? l dont know
U know it's gonna be forgotten in two patches 💀
DoT is short for Damage over Time, usually used when refering to mechanics where you apply an effect to an enemy that deals continuous damage
@@ThundahPrime thanks
isnt that what yinlin does?
Haiyaaa.. i think people underestimate Spec. Rover because Hav. Rover.
just use Spec. Rover + Phoebe Duo Carry..
My spectrover 6/6/6/6/6 with eternal radiance 3 star left side last floor 😂
Unfortunately as It stands, Phoebe seems to be not too compatible with Jinshi and is only really set for Zani, a character I do not want. I've wanted Phoebe because of her amazing design and her animations look incredible, but I might consider skipping. I'm not sure if I should just pull Zezhi now.
you can run Rover and Changli/Brant/Mortefi/Sanhua and it will still clear
Zani is dot?
I have both Carlotta and Jinhsi with their weapon and I could clear the TOA with a team of both of them together. I think if you get Phoebe’s weapon you can even run Carlotta and Phoebe or Jinhsi and Phoebe together.
Jinshi already have a perfect team no need to insert Phoebe there. She needs her own team.
“Spectro Rover has no way to buff Phoebe”
-10% Spectro RES: Am I a joke to you?
Also enabling new spectro set for Phoebe is a significant buff itself, she just will have a higher Crit ceiling than other characters.
P.S. Make Spectro Rover great again!
also spectro rover heals with sequences, so you could give them the healer set and use another dps for fun
@@firby7341 yeah, that’s facts, dude. Did you know you can also use heal set on any character by giving them blue weapon Originite: Type I/II/III/IV/V?
She is having 61 crit rate at base 😂 36 from weapon, 20 from echo set and 5 base
Now imagine her inherent skills have crit rate ,that means she's at 69 crit rate without any tuned echoes
I'm definitely pulling her,the only problem is that her sig is currently only useful for her
He mentioned A LIT BIT SPECTRO RESISTANCE SHRED
he literally mentioned that
I feel like you're missing the part where rover can load a target with frazzle stacks then use their Shimmer to lock their frazzle stacks for 9 seconds so by the time you swap to Phoebe they still have frazzle stacks for her to deal dmg off of
Phoebe's kit will work on release w/ spec rover but Zani's release on the 1y anniversary will most likely be the first big power creep team.
Hopefully they also make a 4 star spectro support for Phoebe that gives spectro frazzle
Spectro rover
@wifiwodhyde i should have specified a buffing support that gives more then 10 res decrease
@@Phoebemain2 no i meant, spectro rover now gives spectro frazzle as well
Hopefully they dont put that 4 star in a rerun banner like lumi and youhu
@@pototo9876 at least you can buy new 4stars with 80 corals and dont need to pull =)
With how frazzle scales, she seems like a high floor low ceiling type of character that is good for f2p cheap teams as long as you can find teammates for her.
Close enough, welcome back Liv Empyrea
really really don’t like the design of “this characters kit is tied to another premium character and also said character is not even out yet” i wanted to pull for phoebe but she’s literally going to add nothing to my account
tbh, this kit is giving me Changli feels. She's probably gonna be dealing good damage like Changli does, despite the fact she doesn't have an actual partner yet. I mean, right no, Changli still has no actual partner despite being released way back in 1.1. We don't have any Fire DPS units that focuses entirely on their Liberation damage. I am still pulling for her though. I mean, at the end of the day, makig proper teams is only important when doing tower. Aside from that, you can slap in any unit you want during explorations and quests.
I think she confuses players a lot, because it was thought that she would be support or healer, and ended up being a kind of main dps and sub dps, but so far I do not find a good team for her unless it is with Rover, I don't think many convene her.
It's zhezhi all over again, support DPS for a character that doesn't exist yet. But this time there's nobody she works well with at release.
It's gonna be Zani
Im so happy shes not a healer
Do we know her damage scaling? Her sequence got so many damage buff for her.
Idc too much about her kit. I just want her for her design too.
Her damage at a baseline is strong, she just lacks the teammates to exploit it
It's cracked, but her teambuilding is looking barebones rn
If she has 2 modes (main dps and supp) I hope she can use it both? Like she can use her main dps mode when on field and swap to support mode when shes about to leave. It’s a bummer if we can only utilize one at a time.
I like her design but I dont have Shorekeeper. So im gonna save for her. Sorry Phoebe. See you next time
shorekeeper has been confirmed not to be in 2.1 or 2.2 cantarella es confirmed in 2.2
Please don’t make Zani a Spectro dps …I can’t pull if I have jinhshi already …
My PGR bros we got liv
I have Yinlin's weapon, do you think it will be enough for Phoebe or there will be a lot of difference with her own weapon.
Weapon yinlin Stringmaster:
Increases the DMG Bonus by 12%. When dealing Resonance Skill DMG, increases ATK by 12%, stacking up to 2. This effect lasts for 5s. When the equipped Resonator is not on the field, increases their ATK by an additional 12%.
By the way, good video, I needed it.
Stringmaster is within 95% of sig's power so you will be 100% fine
@@ThundahPrimeI've always felt Stringmaster was insane asf for any main/sub DPS rectifier. Not just because its effect is widely applicable, but also because it's an insane crit rate stat stick, making it unnecessary to roll double crit on every single echo, especially for sub-DPS characters.
@@ThundahPrime if i need to choose between charlota or phoebe sign, which one would u suggest to pull for me so far? ( i alr have yinlin sign)
If you're not planning to pull her weapon it's fine,but her weapon gives her a lot of buffs ,there will be quite some dmg difference but hopefully it won't be that severe like static mist and last dance
At first I thought she would be a good match for Jinshi but it turns out she's a DPS I already got Charlotta Zhezhi so it was quite difficult because Jinshi needed her too
You could go yuanwu and spectro rover though if zhezhi is not available.
Or use taoqi sanhua or lumi for carlotta if you use zhezhi on jinhsi.
Prolly not the best but there are other options, idk if im right as i don't have jinhsi.
by the time zani comes out, phoebe will most likely get a rerun. looking at how they like to put main and sub-dps in the same banner, they might rerun phoebe when zani comes out, or maybe a patch later. either way, its a skip for me rn. I'm not sure about pulling for zani, so I'd rather keep my pulls until she comes out
Why are people saying Zani wants Phoebe
@donew1thita11 its just a leak that says she works really well with Phoebe.
I think Phoebe will get her rerun around 2.4
So far we only got Xiangli Yao with 2 patches between his banners, Jiyan and Zhezhi with 3, Yinlin and Jinhsi with 4 and changli will have 5 or more.
So it's more likely that upcoming characters will also have 3 or 4 patches between banners (depends on if they do double rerun banners per patch or not)
Phoebe isn't going to have a rerun when Zani is released because obviously it's just a recent patch. If I were you, pull for her as soon as her banner is released.
@@mourningprudenceI wouldn’t say that since Zhezhi and Xiangli Yao were both released in 1.2 and one had a rerun in 2 patches (Xiangli Yao in latter half of 1.4) and the other had one 3 patches later (Zhezhi in 2.0) so I’d believe it if kuro wanted to run a unit that synergises well and has the 2-3 patch in between last run idea. Even more so if they went even longer than that
Edit: I was mistaken for the synergy but of phoebe but I still think she’ll come around zani’s banner if not on it
i feel sorry for the Aero element specifically Jiyan, Aero character on 2026 nice Kuro
Aero rover coming
@Lofakatt i don't like Rover
@@St3rbenwell not our problem , so far both rover elements are strong af
@@woKenVFX i know Rover is strong but i can't find to like him/her i don't know why
Fleurdelys
can't wait to see your S6R5 showcase
I agree, except about the extra crit chance on her signature weapon. 50% extra crit chance from her weapon is amazing for crit scaling.
You could get 90/270!, which is a near perfect stat allocation for the amount invested into crit. No other character has been able get so high on the crit scaling before.
Game developers always mess up characters which has a trade-off mechanic (absolution vs. confession). Somehow, it gets balanced as if it's an advantage to be able to do two things poorly.
The more I think about at it, the less free-to-play friendly she seems. A main dps which REQUIRES other characters to apply a specific type of debuff is terribly inflexible long-term. On top of that, she applies a "mark" on the ground and the radius isn't generous. She also ideally want to stand inside of it herself as well. There are many scenarios where this is awkward or outright non-functional, for example good luck fighting the Flame Rider boss with it, or anything that flies.
Her "confession mode" doesn't turn her into a good sub-dps. Nothing in her kit other then that measly 10% reduced spectral resistances is helpful to other characters, no attack buffs or other generally useful things. Quicker rotations doesn't matter when the rotations themselves do low damage and doesn't provide enough utility.
The video glanced over it quickly, but her s2 somewhat solves her kit and makes it functional without support from other characters. "When the star" giving 2 layers of the new spectral debuff gives her a functional rotation, something to work towards in the 10 seconds after entering combat.
At the same time, the new spectral set requires you to be at 10 stacks to get the damage bonus, which it doesn't look like she can reach on her own.
"Damage over time" and "static area of effect" effects need to do significantly more damage to be worth it. She'd need to melt faster then Jinshi, at the very least in AoE situations.
But even if she is amazing in certain modes, such as Pincer, I don't think it's wise to get her as a free-to-play.
A main dps a ftp-player gets needs to be flexible - work standalone, in many team comps, in all combat scenarios etc.
We're talking upwards of 38k astride for a situational inflexible main dps character which may get power-creep.
I hope they rework the kit, or that we are missing some information.
Phoebe + Zhezhi + Shorekeeper lol Spectro Trinity
Doesn't Italian Jinshi supposed to be spectro DoT dps instead of Zani? I remember seeing it but it was long time ago. Pb seems like released too early (like Zhezhi but imagine Jinshi didn't existed in 1.1). But I'm still gonna pull her for future investment when that spectro DoT dps comes out so I won't be worry about pulling 2 unit at the same time.
I'm prefarming for phoebe, what should be the skill priorities for her,(which dmg bonus should i focus on?)
what is Dot sorry :( is it damage over time?
Who would have thought cute, shy, nun is a master archmage Card Captor Sakura
Love Phoebe but I'm not planing to pull Zani...😢
let's wait for the beta changes and see what they do
I'm getting her because i do not have spectro dps in my account and i need one because the toa new buffs are insane i used to clear it easy but now man i need characters no matter how they perform or what is thr outcome..
Do u think phoebe is compatible with jinshi or nah?
@@rimaru321 nah
What does her dmg scale with?(Heavy atk?,basic atk?, liberation?, resonance skill?)
She is a big mix, mainly heavy but also good basic and liberation
@ThundahPrime ok
@ThundahPrime can I already start prefarming
I love Phoebe and i love how unique her kit is, but they are spreading her too thin. I think it’s better for a character to have a focus in their kit and in Phoebe’s case it should be DoT.
If it were up to me, her Forte would focus on overcapping Frazzle and increasing the amount of damage it has. After applying 10 stacks of Frazzle, her enhanced basics from activating her resonance skill would stack Prayer, adding 1 more stack of Frazzle than allowed. Once 10 additional Frazzle stacks are added (forte is full) enemies affected by Frazzle receive the gospel debuff, in which their spectro res is greatly reduced. Team members’ attacks should also be able to trigger frazzle manually. Additionally her Resonance skill should make Frazzle last for 30 seconds.
I installed this game late and missed jinshi, jiyan,yinlin
Its a big loss but however i managed to get changli, camellya, shorekeeper,yao,carlotta so far. But i still regret not pulling zhezhi for my carlotta
But finally a new spectro dps is coming, hopefully she'll replace the lack of jinshi type character for me😅
Phoebe hypercarry is indeed not possible yet. But she will be good on a Dual Carry Spectrover team comp. Good luck to all Phoebe wanters!
@@keiemnarido4295 Spectro Rover does not do enough damage to count it as a dual carry, he is a support to Phoebe Hypercarry
You are underestimating Spectro Rover way too much, with his new buffs in 2.0, he can destroy everything in ToA. He also shreds upto 20% Spectro Resistence so that is a huge bonus for Phoebe tbh. Also most of us already have him built, probably have an Emerald of Genesis and a good moonlit set on hand as well, so we can have a Phoebe team up and running easily
20% res shred is really low, it's NOTHING compared to the 20% atk and 38% damage deepen other 4* characters can give their respective DPS's.
@@ThundahPrimeA lot players have beeen disapoibt about the midle tower of the TOA changes the bonus to especific resistanses make hard to clear, and it seems going to be a comon thing from now, so i Guess lower the resistances have a impact btw
@@ThundahPrimebrother , spectro rover can literally solo some of the tower floors , don't think you understand how big of a buff spectro frazzle along with the new set is
@@woKenVFXfine i.guess I'll build rover. His ascension is free after all. New player so tryna save resources.
Question is healer or dps rover build. I'm thinking overture, rejuvenating glow, healing bonus and atk
If Rover is built for dps, 3rd slot has to be a healer because a 100% atk heal every rotation is too low
bruh, why we doing support for future characters, while jinhsi stays without good spectro support, shit doesnt make sense.
You think she'll be stronger than Jinhsi? I was planning to finally get Jinhsi S1R1 during her rerun but now I'm waiting for Phoebe damage calcs.
She is one of the most disappointing characters right now, and she needs a lot of changes in beta to make her better
@ dang, I guess it’s either we hope the changes will be for the better and maybe hope that Zani is the her true saviour.
Tbh it may be a while before we get a character as strong as Jinshi. Especially with chains unlocked.
i really hope they change her weapon to high base atk + cdmg substat instead of low atk + high crate
At this point i'm about to use the Cosmic Ripples on her, I bet the DOT use Attk value to scale, and the basic attack bonus can be stacks and least for more seconds 🤔
zhezhi's weapon might work really well on her due to the new spectro set giving 20% critrate
@@woKenVFX You're rigth, I already checked it and as you say it would work quite well.
yea even yinlin's weapon is gonna be fine
How much worse would she be with Zheshis signature?
500 Atk + 72 Cr.Dmg
12% Atk Increase
Basic attack by 12% every time Resonance Skill is used for up to 3x
Even if she can't make use of the passive i feel like a Cr.Dmg. weapon would be amazing on her as a second option since Eternal Radiance gives 20% crit rate already 🤔
it might be pretty good same way spectro rover can use changli's weapon to get 310% crit damage with decent critrate
Why would you assume Zani is spectro after we already got Jinshi in the previous region?
because in the story cutscene we saw Phoebe and Zani work together to create a shield made of light, making them both Spectro
Multiple Leak list who's content are being confirmed as true + Story visuals
What's her best team currently i have
Only have shorekeeper and im garenteed.
As it stands right now, Brant seems to be the better banner in 2.1. Phoebe's in a really tight spot, not only is she running with Shorekeeper rerun, but a lot of people seem to have decided to save their pulls for Fleurdelys. Brant on the other hand not only already has Changli, but he's looking like a pretty universal character.
was hoping for a sup dps/buffer for jinsi
Play the old spectro set on Phoebe
Considering the future end-game content, her kit is just bullshit.
I was disappointed with Brant's role and animations. I really liked Phoebe's animations, but I was very disappointed with her kit.
Why should I pull for a character that just won't work without debuffs, like Dr. Ratio(hsr)?
I am really sad :C Hope they will change that, atleast with dupes.
@@quaedetestatur I highly suspect they will rework her in the beta
@@ThundahPrime I really hope so.
Even affix is very low - 12%, when other dps have 20-30%
i feel like phoebe is for sentinels resonator
DoT gives me ptsd cause of HSR, iykyk. If not, DoT in HsR is so neglected
@@ZeeroTwoNone haven't seen a DoT unit since Black Swan, this is why I'm trying to get Phoebe to bess frazzle-reliant
Shes a spectro DPS, I have Jinshi already, I'm going to skip and save. Get Shorekeeper instead since I need a healer, but to those who don't have a DPS she might be pretty good, but DONT SPEND.
12:16 holy moly what a damage bro? Is this jinsi f2p or you got her sequencies?
@@user-qi9xd7ln9z sequences haha
@ThundahPrime how many of them do you have?
lets push back against this kind of design, we don't kuro to go down hoyo route...what we have right now is great where we are not forced to rely on teams and teammates,yes there are but prfomacne is like 5-10% lower than best team.
What matters more is your perfomance on the field rather than what rotation or follow teammate formula.
Character should be desinged independent of any other character/element mechanic in mind, like me as a solo character vs holo 6 boss
I hope Kuro realises the error ogbtheir ways
i doubt she will powercreep jinhsi as of current roster
also i hope they change her weapon to crit dmg since she's overcaping on crit even without shorekeeper buff
can you make a video on brant as well? Thanks
Brant video is coming later today, give me 5-6 hours lol Im still working on calcs
I'm not really convinced by her kit... I think I will skip her and wait and see how new characters work with her.
Sig weapon could be changed to Atk% since she's a DOT focused unit
Should I go for pheobe or storekeeper? Cause I have Carlotta but no zhezhi for her or jhinshi (I have both but I run Carlotta in quickswap). On the other side I only have s2 Verina and baizhi for healers and I want both pheobe and shorekeeper😭💔.
Shorekeeper is a way better pull in my opinion currently, but since Phoebe's beta has only just now begun a lot can still change
I genuinely hope there will be more changes to her kit cause I don't find it appealing for me. It's kinda convoluted because of the spectro mechanic but her future potential as a quickswap sub dps/support is actually awesome especially if Zani is indeed a spectro character that relies on heavy attack or other units in the future that can utilize her buffs. Her main dps playstyle lacks dedicated buffers/supports as well and I don't wanna wait 10 patches just to make her compete with other top dps in the game. Overall, she is interesting but definitely needs a couple of changes.
Damn, not a fan of her kit tbh. You mentioned all the problems already. I already dislike that they made carlottla and Zhezhi a pair, kinda. You can use Zhezhi in a different team, sure. But Carlotta almost seems to be tailored to Zhezhi. Characters should be able to stand alone, neither completely ridiculous nor a complete moot.
And i feel like she will be compatible with the new sentinel's resonator.
You forgot the changli quick swap team with her. Does as much dps just requires more skill
@@isaaclenchus7211 Jihnsi + Verina works with her too, actually
So Zani is gonna be dps?
For someone like me that just started playing at 2.0 and got carlotta and her weapon pretty early, what are the characters to focus on? Is phoebe good for a new account?
if you want a really good team, get changli on her rerun(should be at some point in 2.1). they work INCREDIBLY well together if you put in some time to learn them. also, Shorekeeper will probably get a rerun in 2.1 as well, so get her if you can afford it. those 3 are a good enough team for you to clear everything in the game except ToA(need 3 teams for that).
The best characters to grab in my opinion would be Zhezhi, Jinhsi, amd Shorekeeper. Zhezhi is an incredible support for both Jinhsi and Carlotta, who are both top tier DPS's and Shorekeeper is a broken healer.
Phoebe is a good character for early accounts because she has very cheap teammates, with Rover being one of her best, but her performance in late game will depend on what Zani's kit looks like.
I disagree with the other commenter promoting Changli, because her teams require much more stat investment, weapon investment and skill to play
@ThundahPrime thats entirely valid, i might be underestimating how much i put into changli. What you said might be a bit too much to get(4 characters in 2 patches is quite a lot), but its a wonderful start for an Account.
I think I finally understood what's the idea behind this combat system. The characters amplify their own damage by using specific key combos individual for each character. Not much is going on outside of the character's kit though: there are very little interaction between characters and none between their elements.
if you're looking for those things you should play genshin
@@axylum4453 yeah, the more I look the more I'm convinced GI is unique in that regard. Not even sheer WW fanservice can make up for that. I play both, don't want to miss any, but GI still feels better.
@@atomsk9000 I'm the complete opposite. I dislike the emphasis on elements and team building in genshin because that takes away from mechanical skill. Most characters are swap in use skill use ultimate, swap out. Elemental reactions also ends up locking characters into specific team comps that may have playstyles you don't enjoy (geo teams especially). WuWa has more emphasis on quickswapping, parrying, techs like animation cancels etc. Feels more like an action game than Genshin which is just a bunch of numbers and colors in actual combat imo
@@axylum4453 Only if you play by reflexes. The elemental system in GI enable ton of fun interactions like using campfire to ignite the enemy or knock them out by applying electro. Most people tend to overlook it because all they care about is closed arena fights, but this is done better in other games. GI is more about open world experience, everything else is optional.
To put it simply, 2.1 is a skip for me lol😢. Well i can save for 2.2 and hope for a busted DPS or support
i think i want Jihnsi more
I need someone to explain me phoebe’s kit in razor language pls
@@yassarinn When left forte bar is full, do heavy atk for dps mode or hold skill for sub dps mode
dps mode deals high damage if enemies have spectro DoT
sub dps mode applies spectro DoT and buffs it
ult is big nuke that gets buffed in DPS mode
skill creates mirror that will buff your basics
dot didn't end well In hsr
So what echo do I use on rover?
The new one for dps or support?
you run Rejuvinating Flow for a healer rover, Moonlit clouds for sub DPS rover
@@ThundahPrime I'm wondering if it will be viable for both to be on Radiance tho, that seems like it would be a ton of dmg on the team.
- New Frazzle Set as a Spectro Carry..
- Lingering Tunes if you want to main Multiple Elements
- Moonlit or Rejuvinate for Support Rover
I'm strongly considering skipping. I just don't find her that appealing.
Meh. Easy skip.
probably not pulling phoebe unless she ends up synergizing super well in a jinhsi team.
Jinhsi needs other element coordinated attack sub-dps for her to shine, so no, she doesn't work with Jinhsi, im still waiting for a SUPPORT with coordinated attack that's not Spectro, but hey, Jinhsi is already OP af as it is lol
I dont think she will synergize that well with Jinhsi. Pheobe is probably using Spectro frazzle to deal a huge amount of damage.
@@charlieinsolarisbc off element stacks jinhsi’s forte faster.
For my Jinshi I need a sub DPS that is not Spectro with coordinated attacks that enhances resonance skill damage... and that is not Zhezhi which is is reserved to buff Carlotta. And that's not Phoebe it seems...
@@charlieinsolaris you don't understand her kit completely then, i can clear middle tower fully with Jinhsi, yuanwu and baizhi simply because her forte recharges so fast because of coordinated attack from other elements
zhezhi is amazing for her, but right now Carlotta needs her more than Jinhsi to perform as well
her kit looks like a mess, i hope it gets some changes
best team what ???
Easy skip for me. Thankfully. Not many of those for me in this game lol
Una pregunta será dps
Put brant the kit info 👽
give me a couple of hours
I was worried I was about to be forced to pull for this bland white bread character as a support for my Jinhsi since Carlotta stole her Zhezhi. Fortunately this looks to be the hardest skip ever for me.
furby
CN translation moment
Not even Carlotta what a mid unit
I disagree. She is the next Chang Li.
@ Chang Li is mid as well
You don't want every character power creeping the last unit
@@24zer0nd bro missed the point
i really hope they change her weapon to high base atk + cdmg substat instead of low atk + high crate
I don't see any problem with it, just use atk% elements% set and you'll have plenty of base attack
Look how many people's Carlotta have 2400+ base atk,tbh these weapon makes the character more easy to build and op
Rn phoebe have 36% crit rate as sig weapon stats
If you put 5 of the new spectro set without any tuning and have her weapon her base/starting crit rate is already at 61%(36+20+5)😂,she might be the easiest character to build rn and even if you roll the lowest crit rate on all echoes (6.3)
She's having 92.5 % crit rate at the end of the day
The first ever character to have 90+ crit rate at base with a crit dmg main piece