It's funny you bring up Toy Story, because Buzz Lightyear went through the exact same "I'm not actually real" crisis as Gummigoo but with an actual foundation to his character.
I've been sitting on this one overnight and i think this hit the intended way over the ep3 one you did. Youve pinned why I never fully connected with the cast like most people did. The emotions felt too bombastic, big events with even the seemingly quiet moments feeling Big. The characterization is there but its almost drowed out by, kinda, itself. Interesting perdicament put to words. We'll see how it goes in future episodes.
I liked Gummigoo. I think for something that's only supposed to be for 1 episode they did a great job setting up everything that Gummi believed to be real, then showed of him grappling with the reality of his own non-existence and disposability, which provides some contrast with Pomni going through a similar situation, all so it can be build up to the tragically comedic gut punch that it was undone with a snap of Caine's fingers.
I don't quite understand the attempts of comedy you made for this episode, but I do have to agree with the ending text you wrote. TADC is definitely in a place were the emotional payoff seems to be the go to when it comes to making you care about the characters. Which is fine, but it definitely needs to go a bit deeper. There needs to be more of a conflict between the main cast, before we jump into the payoff. I think they had the right idea with Ragatha and Pomni in the first two episodes since you get to see Ragatha's more overbearing and caring nature clash with Pomni's inadequacy of being treated like a baby as a adult, but that got resolved relatively quickly after episode 2. I think the show still has room to evolve since we are only 3 episodes in. I just hope they invest more in the interpersonal aspect of the show rather than trying to do a whole thing world-building the virtual realm.
I think the original show goes for a bit more of a high-energy/high-spectacle angle. It is a little unfortunate that it ends up feeling a bit shallow at times.
Are you saying that the emotional payoff over Gummi's death was done right or that they missed the mark somehow? Cause I feel like you get enough development of him at the start of the episode to justify how you should feel about him after, and considering all he had was a fake backstory, it would make sense not to go too in-depth with him when you're supposed to be sad that there could have been more to him.
The original gave us enough narrative clues to know how we should feel about Gummygoo being deleted, which allows us to fill in and generate our own payoff in response. The show skipped over a lot of the "tedious" bits. But had it taken the time to due those bits, we'd have a deeper connection to Gummygoo, making the impact of him being deleted more deeply inpactful. "Wtf, lol" vs "Wtf"
The trouble with high-level solipsistic philosophy is that it sounds fascinating in a college classroom setting, but it makes for a really boring cartoon. Nice job deconstructing the episode, though.
I don't think this was meant to criticize the lack of philosophical depth in the cartoon, but rather the lack of emotional depth and one-dimensional characters. As a result of these shortcomings, the emotional break-downs we see from in these episodes feel hallow and unsatisfying.
Theres 2 types of watchers, people who like to stare at a screen and laugh when funny and people who enjoy characters and emotion. TADC as well as murder drones i find difficult to follow because theres nothing to really grasp onto, i dont think it makes it a bad show but i do prefer character growth over big wacky visual gag. However, to say a character doesnt need to have depth if theyre in one episode is nonsense. Adventure time runs 10 mins long but i remember the small characters because they have substance to them, not just their bright design and silly jokes (wow you can do both? Nuance?) i love u dawn somewhere please never leave us
I’m not sure that I agree with the idea behind this lampoon of the Digital Circus -lampoon is probably too harsh a word here but it feels the most appropriate that I can think of right now- but I appreciate you giving the show a shot regardless.
Ooof this video and comments are really coming off as overly cynical "aeteur." MAS was cynical but was also funny, this doesn't have that same humor and just seems focused on criticizing only. Show's def not perfect as well as the popularity of the other indie shows, but def is interesting seeing the rise of indies making their mark on the already sad corporate landscape for animation that's been closing out a lot of studios and projects or just pandering to a nonexistent demographic.
This is starting to feel less like you doing your own fun take on the media that youve previously done, where you insert different personalities into known characters and create humorous banter and new takes on the same situations and have some fun with the new character interaction, and starting to come across more like you trying to tear the show apart for its perceived flaws.
Tbf, that's exactly what the MLP Abridge Series he did where all about. Tearing mlp apart based on perceived flaws. However, I will say it's definitely not coming from a place of malice. It's easy to tear down, but this is clearly meant to build up. Especially with the text explanation near the end.
I mean its always been this way, MAS was a huge tearing of both mlp and other edgy series. RDPs was very much commentary on specific fanfics and the fans of them. We Will Not Play DnD is ALLL about ttrpg tropes and the players within. Its jus...kinda what they always do. Although a title this obvious can certainly be...a bit on the nose.
I think the show did its best with what time it had, considering such revelations would probably take a lot longer to process. The chain of an indie show is the pacing, as always.
I think this series you’re doing comes off to me as a bit more cynical then perhaps you’re intending to or at least more than digital circus deserves. The show ain’t perfect, but I think its success is something to study. There’s a ton of indie animation projects that failed to get off the ground and to have multiple popular projects ongoing is an opportunity. The question isn’t what is wrong with stuff like digital circus, it’s what went right and how can other projects take that and improve upon it. Just my 2 cents.
Considering that Gummigoo was going to die kind of no matter what happened, and we were never going to have very much time with him, I don't think we could have (or should have) spent too much time building him up before going into the themes and quandaries he brought to the table. I get that his death didn't have much impact since we didn't have very much time with him, but that wasn't really the point of him as a character. His purpose was to further Pomni's development; and in that regard, I'd say he performed admirably.
so the take is that you don't like the fact that the show is a comedy? that it should be more serious? the joke is the subversion, the emotional setup followed by the immediate and sudden shift is what makes it funny. if they spent time building gummy as a proper character it would go from a joke to a genuine sad moment and lose the humor.
The joke ONLY works if you succeed at building Gummigoo up as a complex, sympathetic character with moral rights. That's the juxtaposition. That's the subversion of expectations. That's the joke. Making you feel real emotion, only to then pull the rug out. Otherwise, it's just Caine shooting some guy who doesn't matter anyway, like a throwaway kill in a zombie movie. That's not remotely in the realm of comedy. It's just callous.
@@DoctorScrimguard pretty sure finding humor in a character you have a connection to dying would make you callous. you can't build a character up too much if they're meant to be the butt of a joke or it comes off as mean spirited. also prat kills on background randos has been a facet of comedy for ages, it allows for brutal slapstick without offing the main cast.
@@Foggeer-von-Dreitveld it's fair, but those freakouts are also meant to be comical. my observation is still accurate in that regard. being more invested in the characters would not make the freakouts more funny.
@@ExceedinglyFPR Then the joke was in bad taste. I'm not the one defending this show. Regardless, that's still the structural intent behind the joke, and botching the execution of the setup doesn't change the punchline. Alternatively, if the joke was just random shock slapstick, that's fine, but if that's the case then the ending scene shouldn't lose anything when taken out of context. Ask yourself that.
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A clown is not always a government, but a government is always a clown
close enough, welcome back MAS!
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It's funny you bring up Toy Story, because Buzz Lightyear went through the exact same "I'm not actually real" crisis as Gummigoo but with an actual foundation to his character.
I've been sitting on this one overnight and i think this hit the intended way over the ep3 one you did.
Youve pinned why I never fully connected with the cast like most people did. The emotions felt too bombastic, big events with even the seemingly quiet moments feeling Big. The characterization is there but its almost drowed out by, kinda, itself. Interesting perdicament put to words. We'll see how it goes in future episodes.
A clown can be a government
More like a government can be a clown.
@@BeaglzRok1 OOOOOOOOOO
All governments are run by clowns
Based on Trump winning 2 elections it shows a clown is at least eligible for the US presidency.
I liked Gummigoo. I think for something that's only supposed to be for 1 episode they did a great job setting up everything that Gummi believed to be real, then showed of him grappling with the reality of his own non-existence and disposability, which provides some contrast with Pomni going through a similar situation, all so it can be build up to the tragically comedic gut punch that it was undone with a snap of Caine's fingers.
“I’m not a government”
*ancaps disliked this*
On the next episode of TADC, Pomni gets stuck somewhere and has a sad heart to heart with a cast member
These always guve me a good chuckle, thanks so much
Nice to see that laurry got some work fan dubbing. You know, something that means he dosent have to leave his house.
I don't quite understand the attempts of comedy you made for this episode, but I do have to agree with the ending text you wrote.
TADC is definitely in a place were the emotional payoff seems to be the go to when it comes to making you care about the characters.
Which is fine, but it definitely needs to go a bit deeper. There needs to be more of a conflict between the main cast, before we jump into the payoff.
I think they had the right idea with Ragatha and Pomni in the first two episodes since you get to see Ragatha's more overbearing and caring nature clash with Pomni's inadequacy of being treated like a baby as a adult, but that got resolved relatively quickly after episode 2.
I think the show still has room to evolve since we are only 3 episodes in. I just hope they invest more in the interpersonal aspect of the show rather than trying to do a whole thing world-building the virtual realm.
Ragatha she was just traumatized wait at least a minute.
I think the original show goes for a bit more of a high-energy/high-spectacle angle. It is a little unfortunate that it ends up feeling a bit shallow at times.
This was very amusing lol. Also interesting and I think insightful commentary!
Due to Dawn Somewhere's reusage of voices, Pomi is Lary now
Candy Newman was a peak joke
I haven’t watched dawn somewhere in years
what are you talking about
welcome back.
@@christopherm.9470 it’s been awhile since I watched one of their videos.
Interested to see your take on each episode! Always good to see you around ^^
Laury has breached containment.
The logic established in this episode implies that heaven is A circus. Did Vivsepop secretly write this?
Not enough incessant swearing and jokes that fall on their ass for her to have any hand in it.
Are you saying that the emotional payoff over Gummi's death was done right or that they missed the mark somehow? Cause I feel like you get enough development of him at the start of the episode to justify how you should feel about him after, and considering all he had was a fake backstory, it would make sense not to go too in-depth with him when you're supposed to be sad that there could have been more to him.
The original gave us enough narrative clues to know how we should feel about Gummygoo being deleted, which allows us to fill in and generate our own payoff in response.
The show skipped over a lot of the "tedious" bits. But had it taken the time to due those bits, we'd have a deeper connection to Gummygoo, making the impact of him being deleted more deeply inpactful.
"Wtf, lol" vs "Wtf"
@@artisanbubblegum6684 true, but this is a comedy, the "lol" is the point. it's not supposed to be a psychological character study.
@ExceedinglyFPR the joke was clearly, "how fucked up is this?". So my point still stands.
I don't get the joke.
Yeah naw yeah naw yeah naw yeah naw yeah naw yeah what if bluey was horror??
Good Australian accent
is there an episode 1?
What the hell
The trouble with high-level solipsistic philosophy is that it sounds fascinating in a college classroom setting, but it makes for a really boring cartoon.
Nice job deconstructing the episode, though.
I don't think this was meant to criticize the lack of philosophical depth in the cartoon, but rather the lack of emotional depth and one-dimensional characters. As a result of these shortcomings, the emotional break-downs we see from in these episodes feel hallow and unsatisfying.
🎉 awesome video
Theres 2 types of watchers, people who like to stare at a screen and laugh when funny and people who enjoy characters and emotion. TADC as well as murder drones i find difficult to follow because theres nothing to really grasp onto, i dont think it makes it a bad show but i do prefer character growth over big wacky visual gag. However, to say a character doesnt need to have depth if theyre in one episode is nonsense. Adventure time runs 10 mins long but i remember the small characters because they have substance to them, not just their bright design and silly jokes (wow you can do both? Nuance?) i love u dawn somewhere please never leave us
Aw, *&#@%! _He made MORE._
What
Skibidi Sigma
AS NO PONY INVITES LUNA
I’m not sure that I agree with the idea behind this lampoon of the Digital Circus -lampoon is probably too harsh a word here but it feels the most appropriate that I can think of right now- but I appreciate you giving the show a shot regardless.
Ooof this video and comments are really coming off as overly cynical "aeteur." MAS was cynical but was also funny, this doesn't have that same humor and just seems focused on criticizing only. Show's def not perfect as well as the popularity of the other indie shows, but def is interesting seeing the rise of indies making their mark on the already sad corporate landscape for animation that's been closing out a lot of studios and projects or just pandering to a nonexistent demographic.
Thank you Greg for recognising and highlighting how mid this reddit ass show is.
This is starting to feel less like you doing your own fun take on the media that youve previously done, where you insert different personalities into known characters and create humorous banter and new takes on the same situations and have some fun with the new character interaction, and starting to come across more like you trying to tear the show apart for its perceived flaws.
Tbf, that's exactly what the MLP Abridge Series he did where all about. Tearing mlp apart based on perceived flaws.
However, I will say it's definitely not coming from a place of malice.
It's easy to tear down, but this is clearly meant to build up. Especially with the text explanation near the end.
I mean its always been this way, MAS was a huge tearing of both mlp and other edgy series. RDPs was very much commentary on specific fanfics and the fans of them. We Will Not Play DnD is ALLL about ttrpg tropes and the players within.
Its jus...kinda what they always do. Although a title this obvious can certainly be...a bit on the nose.
"no! now its bad because he's being mean about something i like!"
I think the show did its best with what time it had, considering such revelations would probably take a lot longer to process. The chain of an indie show is the pacing, as always.
I think this series you’re doing comes off to me as a bit more cynical then perhaps you’re intending to or at least more than digital circus deserves.
The show ain’t perfect, but I think its success is something to study. There’s a ton of indie animation projects that failed to get off the ground and to have multiple popular projects ongoing is an opportunity.
The question isn’t what is wrong with stuff like digital circus, it’s what went right and how can other projects take that and improve upon it. Just my 2 cents.
Have you seen his latest vid?
@@valentinecure329 Yes?
@@aldinlewis5579 Ok. Just checkin'.
Considering that Gummigoo was going to die kind of no matter what happened, and we were never going to have very much time with him, I don't think we could have (or should have) spent too much time building him up before going into the themes and quandaries he brought to the table. I get that his death didn't have much impact since we didn't have very much time with him, but that wasn't really the point of him as a character. His purpose was to further Pomni's development; and in that regard, I'd say he performed admirably.
Commenting before I even watch the whole video the digital circus is mediocre but I love gooseworx 💪💪💪
It'll never be worse than helluva boss and hazbin hotel though
I feel like... U missed the point. Never disagreed so heavily w you before.
Explain
You spell You as U so...
I’m confused please explain
3rd comment
so the take is that you don't like the fact that the show is a comedy? that it should be more serious? the joke is the subversion, the emotional setup followed by the immediate and sudden shift is what makes it funny. if they spent time building gummy as a proper character it would go from a joke to a genuine sad moment and lose the humor.
I am pretty confident that his criticism is that the show's daily freak-out sessions feel hollow because the characters are shallow.
The joke ONLY works if you succeed at building Gummigoo up as a complex, sympathetic character with moral rights. That's the juxtaposition. That's the subversion of expectations. That's the joke. Making you feel real emotion, only to then pull the rug out. Otherwise, it's just Caine shooting some guy who doesn't matter anyway, like a throwaway kill in a zombie movie. That's not remotely in the realm of comedy. It's just callous.
@@DoctorScrimguard pretty sure finding humor in a character you have a connection to dying would make you callous. you can't build a character up too much if they're meant to be the butt of a joke or it comes off as mean spirited.
also prat kills on background randos has been a facet of comedy for ages, it allows for brutal slapstick without offing the main cast.
@@Foggeer-von-Dreitveld it's fair, but those freakouts are also meant to be comical. my observation is still accurate in that regard. being more invested in the characters would not make the freakouts more funny.
@@ExceedinglyFPR Then the joke was in bad taste. I'm not the one defending this show. Regardless, that's still the structural intent behind the joke, and botching the execution of the setup doesn't change the punchline.
Alternatively, if the joke was just random shock slapstick, that's fine, but if that's the case then the ending scene shouldn't lose anything when taken out of context. Ask yourself that.