How I De-Oil/degrease a natural Arkansas stone

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
  • This video was a big debate with myself on how to show you guys how to de-oil my stones or your stones I I'm giving you guys all my secrets sadly. Enjoy!

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  • @alexandermoses952
    @alexandermoses952 6 років тому +15

    Used this technique on some stones I found in my girlfriends grandparents house under the flooring and WOW! Thank you! They just looked completely black and almost tossed them but this worked wonders!

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  6 років тому +2

      Alexander Moses that's an awesome find! I like hearing stuff like that. Glad it helped u! Thanks for sharing.

    • @gorgeousGeorg
      @gorgeousGeorg 4 роки тому +1

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    • @ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique
      @ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique 4 роки тому +3

      Lucky son of a beach. I wish I would meet a girlfriend, that has honing or sharpening whetstones and oilstones.

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  3 роки тому

      @@gorgeousGeorg what?

    • @gorgeousGeorg
      @gorgeousGeorg 3 роки тому

      My bad pocket comment, lol, but great video, I had an older oil stone I degreased and all that, and am now using it as a whetstone, any cons to this because it'll put a mirror on my japanese chisels no prob

  • @JWtube88
    @JWtube88 5 років тому +7

    So after the 10th. Time i saw a small amount of oil come out. I had used oil for 5 years on my stone. I kept the stone in the pan until the water cooled. I been using water and dish soap now and it’s working! Good video, very informative.

    • @chadrudolph1596
      @chadrudolph1596 3 роки тому

      U won't have to try so many times if u simmer on the stove.

  • @swiggamortis5521
    @swiggamortis5521 6 років тому +7

    Thank you! I have an oil stone my father gave me that I need to clean and wasn’t sure how. Your videos have taught me a lot.

  • @Bob76075
    @Bob76075 6 років тому +3

    I've done this several times on a couple of my stones. It works. Slicker than shit through a tine horn! I don't use oil now and never will again. Thanks for the video. Great stuff!

    • @actanonverba1385
      @actanonverba1385 6 років тому

      same here man I switched to dawn and water after removing the oil from my stones and what a difference

  • @michaelshults7675
    @michaelshults7675 7 років тому +4

    Hey man I know i already watched and commented on this video. But i watched it again. Something came to my mind that happed to me 2 years ago. I bought a hard arky at a yard sale, and man it was gunked up bad, and i used boiling water and a degreaser. it cleaned up perfectly fine, but what i didn't know is it had a crack/inclusion in ths stone, which sometimes natural stones do. The boiling water cracked my stone in two pieces. So i thought i would pass that info on to others. Just be careful using boiling water on natural stones because they are know to have inclusions. Great video TN neighbor!!👍

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  7 років тому +2

      Michael Chance I have always wondered that. but.ive never had it happen. knock on wood. I've done almost 100. but that sucks. if I'm Leary of it I'll warm it up progressively. Good point!

    • @ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique
      @ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique 4 роки тому +2

      Why would you boil your oilstone? lol

  • @robertelkins8225
    @robertelkins8225 6 років тому +5

    I enjoy your videos and the way you present yourself in them, thank you. But I have to ask why you use your left hand to increase pressure on the going away stroke but not on the coming back stroke. It takes pressure to make a stone cut...and it appears that you don't use hardly any. FYI, I have been hand sharpening for close to 50 years. But still learning.

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  6 років тому +2

      Robert Elkins it just depends on blade shape and steel stone etc. I try to make the stroke as comfortable as possible to achieve the best egde possible. Sometimes ill use my hand as a guide and sometimes I don't. Thank you for the positive feedback

    • @chadrudolph1596
      @chadrudolph1596 3 роки тому

      That is the traditional Japanese way. Lighten pressure for edge leading stroke. Benefits: less stone wear, less apex deformation, reduces the burr, and prevents gouging soft water stones. Not necessary on hard oilstones.

  • @drlangattx3dotnet
    @drlangattx3dotnet 6 років тому +4

    Hi I have a three-stone setup where the stones are mounted on a wood triangle block that is rotated to use each stone. Would the hot water treatment damage the wood mounting? Any suggestions?

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  6 років тому +3

      Donald Langlois i used to have a tri hone. worst thing it can do is separate the stones fron the wood. In that case just glue them back on. i was hesitant about this as well.

  • @stevekushman3030
    @stevekushman3030 7 років тому +3

    Nice video Chris. I think I may have used that Purple Power degreaser a few years ago and it definitely did some heavy duty cleaning. How long did you leave your stone in the hot water? Did you rinse the stone off in the sink or again soak it in clean boiling water to rinse out the degreaser?

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  7 років тому +5

      Steve Kushman it depends on how nasty the stone is. some takes more than one application. this one just took one. I left this one in for about an hour. it ripped more out than I expected. and after the stone cooled I scrubbed it with Dawn and a scrub brush. reason being if u use the stone later after the purple power dries in the Stone it becomes very slick. not so good for honing.

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  7 років тому +3

      Steve Kushman oh and no I did not clean it off in boiling water. just Luke warm in the sink.

  • @MrElliott1979
    @MrElliott1979 Рік тому

    I highly recommend this method, being from the UK Purple power isn't available so I used No-Nonsense heavy duty degreaser (water based).
    Thanks for the tip.

  • @bigoldgrizzly
    @bigoldgrizzly 4 місяці тому

    I remember watching my grandfather about 60 years ago, reconditioning his stones. Soak in petrol for a few days then set fire to them to burn off petrol and dissolved oil, before lapping on an old mirror glass with some sort of sand. His stones were very old and large, and probably worth a small fortune today. He came from a long line of cabinet makers and his tools were always very sharp.
    I don't recommend this method to anyone ....... there are easier and no doubt safer ways, for both man and stone ;

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  4 місяці тому

      You don't recommend what method?

    • @bigoldgrizzly
      @bigoldgrizzly 4 місяці тому

      @@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      Sorry,I thought it was clear ..... don't soak in petrol then burn them off ;

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  4 місяці тому

      @@bigoldgrizzly I thought that's what I meant. Never heard of that one lol

    • @bigoldgrizzly
      @bigoldgrizzly 4 місяці тому

      @@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      I saw another video a while back on utoob where the guy alternates soak/washes in a de-greaser with heating up slowly to dry it out and then holding at 200F for a couple of hours in a small cooker over a bit of aluminum foil or a tray. The wash clears the pore only so far down, and the heating 'melts' or makes the oil deeper in the stone, go thin and run [or ooze] out of the newly cleaned pores it by gravity, and drips into the tray .... Rinse and repeat a few times as they say, till no more oil comes out. I recall he used it where the stone was badly discolored by years of oil/iron /dirt getting in deep and it seemed to work well and [I think he was working on big old expensive natural stones] and they turned from really dark, down to light colors. I'd like to watch that video again to check I've got it right, but can't seem to find it.
      I guess what ever method you use, if it gets the results you want it's good enough.

  • @RubricoA.
    @RubricoA. 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this tip. what would you recommend as my first Arkansas Stone? I have already have a KME Ceramic Medium-Fine Grit (Around 120-180 grit)

  • @Master...deBater
    @Master...deBater 7 років тому +2

    "Rip the damn hide off an aardvark"...awesome...I'm gonna have to steal that saying!!! Another good choice if you don't have "Purple Power" is to use the same technique with extra strength powdered dishwasher detergent. I usually let it sit overnight...but they come out clean as new!!!

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  7 років тому +1

      MASTER deBATER. Never heard of that one. I will give it a try next time tho

    • @Master...deBater
      @Master...deBater 7 років тому +2

      Yeah...I decided to try it once because I didn't have any other heavy degreaser. It worked so well I've never had to buy any other product for the job. Like you...I find allot of stones at second hand shops and clean them up flatten them and give them away to friends in need...or add them to my collection. It's really amazing what you can find for just a few dollars!!! I recently found what I think is a dalmore blue stone for ten dollars at a pawn shop...it looks allot like this: zatochiklinok.ru/1-2/naturalnye-abrazivy/dalmore-blue

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  7 років тому

      MASTER deBATER. Ive never run across anything other than a Belgium coticule. Rather than Arkansas that is.
      Thats a pretty stone. I will give that a try next time

    • @Bob76075
      @Bob76075 6 років тому

      Rooster's method cleans these stones like the insides of a ten pound salmon with its guts kicked. Slicker than shit on skating rink. -:""""

  • @OORAH659
    @OORAH659 Рік тому

    Thank you for sharing your secrets and enlighting us .... my prayers for you and 👪 👪.... OORHA!!

  • @ColtonWilson3000
    @ColtonWilson3000 7 років тому +2

    Great video, I live in a rural town in Canada though and might not be able to get purple power. Do you think simple green would be an adequate substitute? Look forward to cleaning up, or trying to clean up some old family stones laying around are various shops.

    • @brokelvi0819
      @brokelvi0819 5 років тому

      What is it I'm in Australia

    • @MrSongwriter2
      @MrSongwriter2 3 роки тому

      @@brokelvi0819 I Googled it, basically an all purpose cleaner for hard surfaces. I’m in the U.K. I watched a different video which basically the guy said petrol will decrease or paraffin.
      We have elbow grease which is great on burnt on food grease on enamel chip trays. I just think any degreaser. You could probably spay with brake disk cleaner and clean the surface grease built up oil mess with wire wool like another guy’s video then just re oil. I’d just think it’s better to clean the surface than have something soaked into the stone that stops the oil soaking in again. Whatever you use rinse it off
      (Elbow grease is the name of a degreaser for multipurpose from car grease to food grease)

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  2 роки тому

      Ehh it don't for what I do.

    • @bigoldgrizzly
      @bigoldgrizzly 4 місяці тому

      @@MrSongwriter2
      I partly agree with your comments.
      I used to use hot Lye [caustic soda] as a soak but it will burn you pretty badly if you get splashed. I have swapped over to Elbow Grease [£2/litre] and it works just as well. I use a fifty fifty mix with water or sometimes use it neat on really cruddy stones. I don't find it particularly hard on the hands, though the instructions do say wear gloves.
      I also use it as a lubricant when flatting stones either on a granite block with silicon dioxide powder, or on emery paper glued to a 3 foot granite strip.
      After the whole cleaning /flatting process, I have had no problems using water on what were previously oil stones. Some stones work best with water, and others work best with oil [Johnson's baby oil [pure mineral oil] - and dead cheap]
      I have heard it said that if you fully de-grease an oil stone it pays to soak the stone in melted petroleum before you start oiling and sharpening with it for the first time - perhaps I'll give that a try when I get another nice old stone to restore.

  • @Bob76075
    @Bob76075 6 років тому +2

    Excellent! Keep them coming.

  • @Crazyknives
    @Crazyknives 5 років тому +2

    Perfect timing for me, I going to clean one tomorrow 👍thanks

  • @jaylane82
    @jaylane82 7 років тому +3

    very nice tip or trick sir. looks to work very well.
    👍😎👍

  • @markbonham3477
    @markbonham3477 5 років тому +1

    Nice video and I have no doubt it will work. Just bought a stone (alum/oxide) combi and was getting ready to hunt down some oil tomorrow is that wise or can I use water and Dawn on this type of stone?

  • @osbaldohernandez9174
    @osbaldohernandez9174 4 роки тому +2

    This technique pretty much work on any oil stone or Arkansas stone

  • @cletusawreetusawrightus1491
    @cletusawreetusawrightus1491 7 років тому +4

    ....anxiously awaiting new video from RRKS...*looks at watch...*twiddles thumbs...*pleasures self....*eats sammich....c'mon man!!

  • @ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique
    @ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique 3 роки тому +2

    Looks like a good whetstone for sword sharpening. Length?

  • @JeffSmith-eq3kc
    @JeffSmith-eq3kc 2 роки тому

    Another reason I use waterstones these days. The synthetics are just so good now.

  • @JWtube88
    @JWtube88 5 років тому +1

    I used this technique 10 times on my stone. You think that’s good enough? Some oil still came out after the 10th time.

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  5 років тому

      Jeremiah Williams 10 times? Good lord. That thing should be very clean? Are u boiling the water and using plenty of degreaser? Leaving it in there long enough?

  • @nathankostelecky419
    @nathankostelecky419 5 років тому +1

    great video! Thanks for the info!

  • @osbaldohernandez9174
    @osbaldohernandez9174 2 роки тому

    It works folks I bought some purple power but please have that water screaming hot and just dump it in there

  • @Trozar
    @Trozar 3 роки тому

    Two part question! Will this technique work on a hard black ark? If so, would I need to re-lap it afterwards?

  • @oldyellerschannel4676
    @oldyellerschannel4676 6 років тому +1

    I've watched a few of your videos, I was especially interested in the one where you use OIL to sharpen,
    and where you may have been inclined to say you weren't sure why you switched to Dawn and Water instead of Honing Oil...
    I just thought I would point out that Dawn Dishwashing Liquid's KEY Ingredient is PETROLEUM.
    As are ALL Soaps, Lye Water and OIL.
    So you ARE actually using an OIL based product after all.
    As for me, I would never use water on an Arkansas Stone.
    Oil is simpler, easier to get, to store, you need only two things, an Arkansas Stone and Honing Oil,
    and of course a dull blade.
    One reason is up at our Cabin, a clean fresh water source is a little hard to come by, and as for dishwashing...
    I DO have small bottles of Honing Oil available in the Garage, and in my Sharpening Tool Box,
    with other Sharpening Supplies, but alas, NO Dishwashing liquid. :/
    (There is a lake but I would hardly think that water clean enough for sharpening, also in Winter, it's FROZEN!!)

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  6 років тому +5

      Old Yeller well first of all i did not say idk why i switched. I explained why i switched. However i regret to inform you that Dawn is not petroleum based. Just because thats the first thing that popped up when u googled it dont mean its the truth. I will attach a link at the bottom of my comment to link you to the MSDS and SDS sheet on Dawn. Also if u dont like my videos dont watch them. I have proved my results time and time again. I could personally care less if you would NEVER use water on your stones. My methods work very well and i have helped hundreds of people so far with most all of them pleased with results. Im here to teach and pass on info. There are few that can produce an edge like i can. And i dont think id be hunting water when frozen to sharpen a blade. Seems other priorities would be in order first.
      www.msdsdigital.com/dawn-dish-soap-msds?gclid=CjwKCAjw7tfVBRB0EiwAiSYGM5aT2PesCbn-KJs_9gDmt743Dg1MOVFgYf0Z6Rj5JyZeVLf4PdDsbhoC7FoQAvD_BwE

  • @tubee2b
    @tubee2b 5 років тому

    Will soaking it in lacquer thinner get all the gunk out? It gets oil stains off concrete floors lickity split.

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  5 років тому

      denver likeawow I’ve shown a method here that works just fine. Why try something different? You need something to get into the pores of the stone.

  • @joewoodchuck3824
    @joewoodchuck3824 11 місяців тому

    I'm trying Dawn Platinum spray. That stuff simply eats grease from pots. I'll be rinsing (rain?) between each treatment. I can also try a solvent if anyone thinks I should. But which one?
    Like a dufus I used oil on my new set, but only once. Hoping for the best.

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  11 місяців тому +1

      You need the hot water as well to open the pores of the stone to let that oil out but yes that will work just fine

  • @christianwilliams4795
    @christianwilliams4795 4 роки тому +1

    Does this work for Norton India Stones?

  • @dr.crazysdallekstudio8585
    @dr.crazysdallekstudio8585 2 роки тому

    So you do not scrub it in any way and is there any special rinsing, or just run it under clean water, please?
    and thank you, ns

  • @michaelshults7675
    @michaelshults7675 7 років тому +2

    👍Purple power is awesome stuff!!

  • @gregoryburris6374
    @gregoryburris6374 5 років тому +1

    New to the Arkansas stones! Great info! Thanks! What was the purple chit again? Greg B.

  • @osbaldohernandez9174
    @osbaldohernandez9174 4 роки тому

    Guys he’s not kidding these secrets work real good purple power works but hey simple green is pretty good to but thx for the secrets amigo

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  4 роки тому

      Osbaldo Hernandez I tried simple green. I didn’t like it as well as purple powder

    • @osbaldohernandez9174
      @osbaldohernandez9174 4 роки тому

      Rough Rooster Knife Sharpening I used simple green at first cause Home Depot didn’t have any purple power and it worked ok but I said im going to buy what the man said in the vid purple power

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  4 роки тому

      Osbaldo Hernandez yea it’s hard to find sometimes usually a parts store will have it as well.

    • @osbaldohernandez9174
      @osbaldohernandez9174 4 роки тому

      Rough Rooster Knife Sharpening yeah I went to autozone with a friend and I found like a few a gallons of purple power

  • @virginia7125
    @virginia7125 2 роки тому

    I have never tried this. I always used brake clean or carburetor cleaner. My stone is small so I don't waste that much. I have a moon stone also. I need some help how to get the factory bite back. They get slick over time.

  • @bluetoad2001
    @bluetoad2001 7 років тому +2

    show us the old grimy brown stone you cleaned up.

  • @NicolasShaffer
    @NicolasShaffer 7 років тому

    Very neat,thanks for the how to.

  • @truthhurts2149
    @truthhurts2149 3 роки тому

    Just picked up a vintage 13 inch garrett wade washita on ebay for what i think is a great price. Hope its real washita. Probably atleast 30 years old. Wonder who mined it

  • @augustwest3575
    @augustwest3575 4 роки тому +1

    Cool

  • @usernamemykel
    @usernamemykel Рік тому

    I don't understand why you think that some folks would place their ass in such hot water...

  • @dangiven2686
    @dangiven2686 4 роки тому

    hope this works on Norton India ceramic stones. I wish they would sell those things dry.

  • @brunogalati8408
    @brunogalati8408 Рік тому

    go to candian tire i got zep purple cleaner

  • @jamesaritchie1
    @jamesaritchie1 7 років тому +2

    You really should never de-oil an Arkansas stone. Arkansas stones are intended to be cleaned with more oil, and then wiped down. A dry stone has open pores than even dust can eventually clog.
    Oil used on a real Arkansas oilstone should be thick enough to float the particles of stone and metal created when you sharpen a knife. Many of the oils touted as "made for whetstones" will harm the stone because they're too thin. Even oil that comes with a stone is often too thin.
    3-in-1 oil is as thin as you should get, and mineral oil is a lot better. When you're done sharpening, rinse the stone, then cover with a generous amount of oil, wipe dry with a soft rag, and leave it just like that until the next use.

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  7 років тому

      James Ritchie have you looked into.my channel?

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  7 років тому +11

      James Ritchie also.. i get some of the best edges available anywhere. where your at now i was almost 18 years ago. first of all if you dont think that swarf builds up in the pores of the stone with all that nasty oil think again. because it reduces cutting and polishing efficiency tremendously. and you contradict yourself by saying 3n1 oil is as thin as you should get. mineral oil is thinner than 3n1 thats why i used to do 50-50 mineral oil and mineral spirits. didnt work worth a crap neither does 3n1 it makes a nasty mess and ruins stones. did novaculite come out of the Earth soaked in oil? no. it was created with water and millions of pounds of pressure. i am well aware of what people say is "supposed" to be done. but it is completely inferior to my results. and who said i use my stones dry? i use dawn and water. dig into my channel. you might learn something.

    • @bigoldgrizzly
      @bigoldgrizzly 4 місяці тому

      @@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      Agree with you there. I have deep cleaned a good few old natural stones that have been used with oil for decades and I have tried out them with both oil and water after cleaning. A few do seem to prefer the oil, [mainly very fine dense hard stones, but a lot more, simply work better for me with water. They don't glaze up and do cut quick with a lot more feedback. Used with water, they seem to wear a tiny bit faster, but hey, whenever you sharpen something you are trading a tiny bit of the stone you use for getting a clean sharp edge. Like you, how they are 'supposed to be used' is much less important to me than how they actually work best.
      For example I have two big Charnley Forest stones one that works with water and the other just seems to love oil ... so that is how they get used. The 'oil lover' might well have been quarried a hundred years apart from the other one and from a different quarry in the area, though they look just the same. Go with the flow !

  • @trickedouttech321
    @trickedouttech321 2 роки тому

    Simple green and purple stuff is the same dame thing with different coloring. if even smells the same.

  • @batch8144
    @batch8144 4 роки тому

    Thanks.

  • @briandetrick2688
    @briandetrick2688 2 роки тому

    Dan's arkansas stones are very high-quality. Made like they used to be

  • @beochung6104
    @beochung6104 6 років тому

    Shit. Falling asleep hearing you talk.

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  6 років тому +1

      edward chung awesome. Move on elsewhere if you don't like it. Your here to figure out something obviously. My channel is ment to be informative. This isn't a quick bs Instagram video.

  • @TocilarulTimisorean
    @TocilarulTimisorean 2 роки тому

    12 minutes wasted on a video that dont show any results. "great job Bob" 👎

    • @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
      @roughroosterknifesharpenin5531  2 роки тому

      It definitely shows results. These particular stones weren't filthy. But I showed my process. And it does work. I have other videos showing other stones as well. So take that comment and stick it in your ass.

  • @altuspienaar7679
    @altuspienaar7679 5 місяців тому

    Using brake cleaner on your stone will deglaze and degrease in seconds.