I hate these types of videos with a passion and the top comments explain why. "The recap was better than watching the actual movie." Yeah, you can tell they're the audience for those short attention spanned Tiktoks that needs to have Family Guy playing to keep you engaged.
There's an american version of it. Both are good stories but they somehow mirror the grasp on life of different cultures. The swedish is an uncompromising look of human flawness. It revolves around an incident that is just the door the couple needed to reconsider values and the meaning of their life together. It pulls no punches. The american version while technically well done just cant decide if its a serious comedy or a not so serious drama. Cant leave out the gags that relieves the audience from worring too much. After all theyre watching a movie with two excellent comedians (will ferrell & the elaine benes from seinfeld both very good). So the director doesnt wanna heap up the audience with moral doubts. But on the end they reflect on their cultures. A need for a deeper maybe more somber look on existential questions and a take based more on material things and instant gratification that doesnt seem to fret that much about ethic desitions.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the Swedish and American versions of the story. It's interesting how different cultures can influence the portrayal and perception of certain themes and values. The Swedish version seems to provide a raw and unflinching exploration of human flaws, using an incident as a catalyst for the couple's introspection and reevaluation of their lives. It sounds like a thought-provoking and introspective narrative. On the other hand, the American version appears to blend elements of comedy and drama, possibly to cater to a wider audience and provide moments of levity amidst the serious subject matter. With notable comedic actors like Will Ferrell and Julia Louis-Dreyfus, the film may prioritize entertainment and audience engagement over deep moral questioning. These differences in tone and emphasis might reflect broader cultural tendencies. The Swedish version delves into existential questions and highlights the importance of ethical decisions, suggesting a more somber and introspective approach. Meanwhile, the American version, with its focus on materialism and instant gratification, may reflect a culture that places less emphasis on profound ethical contemplation. It's fascinating to see how adaptations and cultural contexts shape storytelling and resonate with different audiences. Both versions have their merits, catering to different preferences and reflecting the values of their respective cultures.
@@i-xplain I liked and respected both takes. Downhill had some nice American swipes at European types, like the smarmy English guy and the almost brutal sexually frank Austrian/German woman. One very interesting feature was the big bushy beard in each. In Force Majeure it was on the male half of the couple who were witnessing and trying to calm the bitter arguments. In Downhill it was on the resort manager contemptuously dismissing the couple's complaint about the avalanche.
Thanks for liking.. Of course the question at the heart of both movies is what would you do in that situation? Me? Run like hell and get your preteen kids to do the same, not hold them down and wait for death like the mom in the movie. I think most real-life mothers would agree.
the american version is shit, like just look at that avalanche scene, it is a beautiful one-take using forced perspective to convey how unclear the danger is while also creating a creeping tension that builds up and then there's the hollywood version with like >50 cuts. shaky cams explosions and ronald reagan riding by on a dinosaur double wielding an ar-15, just as the founding fathers intended
Great movie! Great review I-Xplain. Do spank your butt out of a chair once in a while. One thing I'll add if I may ... the ending shows mom no different from dad, and the rest of us humans. She jumps out of the bus as fast as the daddy runs out of the restaurant. Instincts, instincts, downloaded programs: survival of the "I" alwayZ comes first! Programs, all we are are bunch of programs.
My parents would have shown no interest in the movie as by Indian standards we don't stress so much on 1 incident. Why he/she left me alone etc. We trust each other but also find ourselves fighting problem alone sometimes.
Soooo... next time shit will hit a fan she have to be prepared for his instincts... but when her instincts will tell her to find another man - she will be unlawful, right?
What??? People around the world don't react like normal Americans: save all the dogs on the restaurant and throw an atomic bomb to stop the avalanche??
He gave a great example 👍 👏 😀 👌 😄 🙄 👍 "You save your life and don't save anyone." Family, kids, friends, being a hero...Hollywood nonsense 🙄 we've been 🧠 washed for dacades.
This film was so incredibly slow and somehow pointless, the only thing it was good at was making the viewer question the role of a man? I am struggling to see the value of this film 4/10 honestly
@@claireonlinex to put it briefly, we're all flawed thus we can have a smoke. we all have expectations from others and from ourselves and we act them through the costumes of genders and roles within society, family, and any such organizations of people. but these expectations, many times are in conflict with our nature and instincts. the force majeure (a clause in contracts that removes the obligations in case of an extraordinary event or circumstance that prevents one or both parties from fulfilling their contractual obligations) is the fear he has in the circumstances of the avalanche that's enough for him particularly to flee without thinking of anyone. but it is also the fear that she gets from the panic attack during the bus trip, which is the circumstance making it enough for her to jump up from the seat and scream at the driver to let her out of the bus while he remains with the kids and along with his friend calm down people and exit the bus calmly. that's why he's somewhat redeemed in the end and decides to be more honest with himself and his family telling the kid that actually he does smoke, thus he's not perfect, and he's not the perfect role model father or husband. it's the final recognition of humanity and the nature of being human, beyond gender and other societal expectations but also in relation to them. p.s. there are a lot more subtle lines of analysis and considerations that can be drawn, but i guess that the fundamental idea is more or less this.
Realistically this is an unrealistic movie. No man alive would abandon his children and family like that. No way. This is a movie, a fabrication of a possible reality. A highly unlikely reality.
I did not experience that ( hopefully never) but I think that I agree with you. Maybe it is in our nature to save our kids no matter what the sacrifices are, when a disaster like this happens.
you do realise some dads straight up kill their own families? like I'm sorry but you look like you live in a fantasy world thinking all dads always protect their kids. far from the truth
Interesting how interpretations can be so different...I thought this film was exceptionally good because it bought up so many feeling and emotions...it was odd as you say and I felt quite uncomfortable in places...it induced me and my husband to quarrel a little about certains themes that were bought up.
Please subscribe to the channel. It will inspire my lazy butt to work hard.
Maybe use a little less AI then... :/
@@peterobinson3678 But it's soooo haaaaard to write ChatGPT prompts and feeding the text into a voice generator.
Swedish movies always deal with raw truth, nicely explained.👍
Thanks! 😃
I know the type of guy and it's the type of guy who would both smell wine at a table and abandon their family in an emergency
It’s a movie with layers of emotions. Unfortunately, the person posting this video is mistaken. Watch the film Force Majeure.
I hate these types of videos with a passion and the top comments explain why. "The recap was better than watching the actual movie." Yeah, you can tell they're the audience for those short attention spanned Tiktoks that needs to have Family Guy playing to keep you engaged.
The recap was better than watching the actual movie.
It must be fun to be as boring as you
Love to hear this
There's an american version of it.
Both are good stories but they somehow mirror the grasp on life of different cultures.
The swedish is an uncompromising look of human flawness.
It revolves around an incident that is just the door the couple needed to reconsider values and the meaning of their life together. It pulls no punches.
The american version while technically well done just cant decide if its a serious comedy or a not so serious drama.
Cant leave out the gags that relieves the audience from worring too much.
After all theyre watching a movie with two excellent comedians (will ferrell & the elaine benes from seinfeld both very good).
So the director doesnt wanna heap up the audience with moral doubts.
But on the end they reflect on their cultures.
A need for a deeper maybe more somber look on existential questions and a take based more on material things and instant gratification that doesnt seem to fret that much about ethic desitions.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the Swedish and American versions of the story. It's interesting how different cultures can influence the portrayal and perception of certain themes and values. The Swedish version seems to provide a raw and unflinching exploration of human flaws, using an incident as a catalyst for the couple's introspection and reevaluation of their lives. It sounds like a thought-provoking and introspective narrative.
On the other hand, the American version appears to blend elements of comedy and drama, possibly to cater to a wider audience and provide moments of levity amidst the serious subject matter. With notable comedic actors like Will Ferrell and Julia Louis-Dreyfus, the film may prioritize entertainment and audience engagement over deep moral questioning.
These differences in tone and emphasis might reflect broader cultural tendencies. The Swedish version delves into existential questions and highlights the importance of ethical decisions, suggesting a more somber and introspective approach. Meanwhile, the American version, with its focus on materialism and instant gratification, may reflect a culture that places less emphasis on profound ethical contemplation.
It's fascinating to see how adaptations and cultural contexts shape storytelling and resonate with different audiences. Both versions have their merits, catering to different preferences and reflecting the values of their respective cultures.
@@i-xplain I liked and respected both takes. Downhill had some nice American swipes at European types, like the smarmy English guy and the almost brutal sexually frank Austrian/German woman. One very interesting feature was the big bushy beard in each. In Force Majeure it was on the male half of the couple who were witnessing and trying to calm the bitter arguments. In Downhill it was on the resort manager contemptuously dismissing the couple's complaint about the avalanche.
Thanks for liking.. Of course the question at the heart of both movies is what would you do in that situation? Me? Run like hell and get your preteen kids to do the same, not hold them down and wait for death like the mom in the movie. I think most real-life mothers would agree.
the american version is shit, like just look at that avalanche scene, it is a beautiful one-take using forced perspective to convey how unclear the danger is while also creating a creeping tension that builds up
and then there's the hollywood version with like >50 cuts. shaky cams explosions and ronald reagan riding by on a dinosaur double wielding an ar-15, just as the founding fathers intended
At least my dad left before I was born
Your dad saw the avalanche of responsibility approaching and quickly ran 🏃♂
Well my dad left right after one night stand what are you complaining for
That’s Tormond from GOT
I believe Tormund Giantsbane would never abandon his family
What's the point of just retelling the plot of the story?
Great movie! Great review I-Xplain. Do spank your butt out of a chair once in a while.
One thing I'll add if I may ... the ending shows mom no different from dad, and the rest of us humans. She jumps out of the bus as fast as the daddy runs out of the restaurant. Instincts, instincts, downloaded programs: survival of the "I" alwayZ comes first! Programs, all we are are bunch of programs.
Hey Matrix-Man, Thank you!
My parents would have shown no interest in the movie as by Indian standards we don't stress so much on 1 incident. Why he/she left me alone etc.
We trust each other but also find ourselves fighting problem alone sometimes.
Just say you're useless
I saw the Will Ferrell remake Downhill, Kristofer Hivju is in both movies
What a family retreat that was. Therapeutic
Soooo... next time shit will hit a fan she have to be prepared for his instincts... but when her instincts will tell her to find another man - she will be unlawful, right?
She left them behind in the bus at the end because she was scared lol.. You seem spiteful irl yikes
The music doesn't match the theme of the movie and it felt very awkward. The random scenes also made no sense.
Haha, the sporty women was fun!
ITS A PURGATORY, ACTUALLY THEY ALL DIED 😢
Very good movie.
Gerade erst gesehen. Die perfekte Möglichkeit, die Taktiken eines Narzissten zu erleben.
What??? People around the world don't react like normal Americans: save all the dogs on the restaurant and throw an atomic bomb to stop the avalanche??
I know the buddy from GOT
Twilight was more useful to watch than this movie 😂
He gave a great example 👍 👏 😀 👌 😄 🙄 👍 "You save your life and don't save anyone." Family, kids, friends, being a hero...Hollywood nonsense 🙄 we've been 🧠 washed for dacades.
This film was so incredibly slow and somehow pointless, the only thing it was good at was making the viewer question the role of a man? I am struggling to see the value of this film 4/10 honestly
It's deep tought provoking movie. Ain't for everyone. Very sad that u can't see the meaning of it.
@@martinlozev9868 what in particular did you find so thought provoking? I am genuinely curious
@@claireonlinex to put it briefly, we're all flawed thus we can have a smoke.
we all have expectations from others and from ourselves and we act them through the costumes of genders and roles within society, family, and any such organizations of people. but these expectations, many times are in conflict with our nature and instincts.
the force majeure (a clause in contracts that removes the obligations in case of an extraordinary event or circumstance that prevents one or both parties from fulfilling their contractual obligations) is the fear he has in the circumstances of the avalanche that's enough for him particularly to flee without thinking of anyone.
but it is also the fear that she gets from the panic attack during the bus trip, which is the circumstance making it enough for her to jump up from the seat and scream at the driver to let her out of the bus while he remains with the kids and along with his friend calm down people and exit the bus calmly.
that's why he's somewhat redeemed in the end and decides to be more honest with himself and his family telling the kid that actually he does smoke, thus he's not perfect, and he's not the perfect role model father or husband.
it's the final recognition of humanity and the nature of being human, beyond gender and other societal expectations but also in relation to them.
p.s. there are a lot more subtle lines of analysis and considerations that can be drawn, but i guess that the fundamental idea is more or less this.
I agree
@@Qnexus7
Quite an interesting point of View.
Deeeeeep💀
Bullshit
Realistically this is an unrealistic movie. No man alive would abandon his children and family like that. No way.
This is a movie, a fabrication of a possible reality. A highly unlikely reality.
My dad would unfortunately 😢he has
I am really sorry to hear that.
I did not experience that ( hopefully never) but I think that I agree with you. Maybe it is in our nature to save our kids no matter what the sacrifices are, when a disaster like this happens.
I wish I lived in your fantasy world.
you do realise some dads straight up kill their own families? like I'm sorry but you look like you live in a fantasy world thinking all dads always protect their kids. far from the truth
Cringe!!
Weird. Just an odd movie. I feel like there’s a second episode or a part 2 but even if there was I wouldn’t waste my time watching it.
Check out the director's latest film, Triangle of Sadness.
@@i-xplain Thank you!!
Interesting how interpretations can be so different...I thought this film was exceptionally good because it bought up so many feeling and emotions...it was odd as you say and I felt quite uncomfortable in places...it induced me and my husband to quarrel a little about certains themes that were bought up.