$19 For a Bari Sax Mouthpiece!? - Comparing Cheap Baritone Saxophone Mouthpieces
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
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Jay Metcalf play tests and compares several cheap baritone saxophone mouthpieces.
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0:00 Intro
2:20 Yamaha 5C geni.us/1QjCnf4
4:04 Rico Graftonite B7 geni.us/fWqiGd
5:55 Rico Metalite M7 geni.us/JdRAha
7:41 Yanagisawa Refaced
9:19 Otto Link Tone Edge 8 geni.us/BJfm
11:46 Meyer 9 geni.us/Zdo19lR
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This man literally deserves to have 10 mil subs... every single post is so high quality and entertaining! Please make some more embouchure tenor sax tips!
Finally a Bari sax video, the Otto link sounds better with the Meyer a close second. I can't wait for more Bari videos since I've been wanting a long term-permanent mouthpiece upgrade (I play a 5c)
same, I am in 8th grade and I play the 5c, its nice but I want something more powerful and punchy for marching band. And also something for jazz, any suggestions?
@dyla7480 dyla7480 thanks
I’ve played on a 5c in my high school but upgraded to a rare soloist c* mouthpiece, amazing risk i took for the sound! I also play on a Vandoren Optimum here and there it’s just as awesome and totally recommend it!
i would recommend a Vandoren Mouthpiece. I play on a V16 B9 and it has a vintage vibe and can play loud
Why does every student that plays the bari saxophone receive a lame 5c mouthpiece. Honestly If I have the money I would buy the Meyer 9 for my bari sax
At my school we called the yamaha 5c 'ol reliable'
Same there was one that was 7 years old and it still worked perfectly fine
@@angelluna167 lives up to the name
I’ve never used one I’ve only used a vandoren v16
@@Andree-dn2zo we don't got that kinda money lmao
@@jackieg6754 40 bucks?
I like how Donna Lee has become one of your normal comparison tunes 😂👍
I was in a bit of a rush and that was the only thing in my head at the moment...
@@bettersax Totally understandable, it really is a great tune to help you navigate the horn especially if you learn it by ear! By the way, if you have the opportunity, we would absolutely LOVE to hear the new Theo Wanne Durga 4 hard rubber...just throwing the idea out there!
@@bettersax jajaja moanin charles mingus, leo Pellegrino bbc proms
@@bettersax are you going to do the theo wanne durga mouthpiece
Hey Jay..Gary Sugal here from RI .USA .. GREAT review of affordable bari mouthpieces ..Always enjoy your videos and congrats on your UT award .. the sax community needs more educators like you -so keep em coming ..
Thank you Gary. I always enjoy your comments!
Good stuff Jay! Even if there arent a million sax players in the world, I know you will inspire so many more through your content that we might just hit that big number
I like that Charles Mingus moanin solo at the beginning😂
JazzOne me too man
Mingus did not play sax
__ It’s Charles Mingus song, Ronnie Cuber was the bari player
@@jazzone3719 so Mingus did not play sax. Period.
@JackShore1 what means ''I like that Charles Mingus moanin solo '' ??? he said that he did bud calm down
Congrats on the silver play button. You're doing a great job getting great information in the hands of players.
Thank you Ed.
I actually like the Metalite M9 if I have some reason to be _super_ loud. It's bright and noisy and dirt cheap, and that's about it.
Love your videos, Jay, and as a baritone player thanks for this video. I’m looking forward to your other bari mouthpiece ones. As a subscriber to two of your BetterSax courses I again say thanks. Your courses have made a big impact on my playing. I look forward to taking more of them.
Thanks, great to hear this.
Ay better sax, make a cheap bari sax review.
Ruby Gamer tv I’ve been waiting on that videos for a while
You guys realize he has to buy these instruments out of his own pocket, right? A cheap bari starts around $1200.
Tony Park a amazon one starts at $1,200??
@@hayesp0706 $1,399 on Amazon, $1,299 on eBay. If anyone is ever curious why saxophones are expensive it'd be good to just take one and look at it carefully. The manufacture process and the set up process takes much precision and a lot of material for a saxophone to simply work. After all the costly R&D of course.
Hey, I hope u guys know that I DO KNOW THAT BARI SAXES ARE EXPENSIVE. I’ve got a few myself
I play baritone sax in high school. And enjoy the sound. I'm went back to my Alto and enjoy playing again after years of retirement. Thank for the video.
I've been practicing Donna Lee and it made me happy to hear it being played well on the bari.
Awesome video Jay! If I were to go with one out of these it would definitely be the link. That was the closest to the Ronnie Cuber sounds you were going for. Very Excited to hear the Jody pieces and the V16(I was thinking of upgrading to the V16 on Bari because I play it on tenor and I love it)
Hey Jay, I was really looking forward to this. Thanks for the overview. I'm going to need a new bari mouthpiece soon
I actually play on a rico metalite m7! the cheapest out of all the mouthpieces i play on and it's my favorite! cant wait for more Bari content, thanks so much jay!
the yanigasawa was my favorite sound wise, and it looks a lot like a selmer s80
Great video! I have been waiting for a video like this one. I play Bari in a local community band. I am using an old Whitehall mouthpiece, very easy to play , but I can’t get a big sound out of it when I need to. I just purchased a Yamaha 5c , on a budget, to try and get bigger sound. I really liked the Otto link and the Meyer, they sounded great. Thanks for the content Jay, keep them coming!
Thanks!
I just started watching and have used ur links to purchase a few bits.
I think ur a great teacher.
I've just started to play an old barisax and I really appreciate your videos Jay! Thank you very much!!! Big hug from Argentina 🇦🇷😊👍
Congratulations on the Award... very nice meeting you at NAMM... loving your Videos... SO informative...
And one Million... let's go for it :)
I’ve been playing bari for almost 30 years, Yani and Yamaha are super good for the price, never tried Link on bari, but I have
a couple Meyer pieces, they are my go to pieces.
Hi Jay, congratulations on your 100k award. Great video as always - I don’t play Bari (senior management says she thinks SAT is enough!) but I really enjoyed your reviews. It’s amazing just how good a Yamaha mpc is at such a price point. Looking forward to hearing the more expensive ones. Keep up the great work.
Great Idea and right on time. I'm getting a baritone sax this summer, your videos will be very helpful!
Thanks for the Video
Very eye opening....boy o boy those Ricos - I could see and hear the struggle...Meyer was the only one i liked at all....my experience with Bari is go big or stay home, you certainly get what you pay for when it comes to bari mpcs, I loved my Jody Jazz Jet but ultimately, the TW Durga 3 gave me everything I need and didn’t look back....looking forward to the other videos coming and other mpcs.
I had a RICO for my tenor sax and got rid of it.
Thanks for the comments on the pros/cons/good use/power rating on the different mouthpieces. I think it may make more difference on bari. Get something really "barky" and the concert band conductor isn't too happy.
I remember the 5C. Used it all throughout high school. Was great because I could get a very consistent, dark tone with | to | volume levels.
I'm interested in the Jody Jazz mouthpieces in particular the non-metal Jet. Also the Dukoff M7. Hopefully those are in the next videos! Thanks for doing this!
I played reed 3 for my high school’s production of Chicago and the 5C mouthpiece did the job well on the Yamaha bari I played on.
I agree with your choice of the Meyer.... I use a Berg Larsen HR, 110/1 on my Martin Committee Bari, circa 1955/57. The Berg has always worked for me , I use a Meyer 6m for my alto, also a Martin... 🎷
I’ve got a J & D Hite Artist Bari mpc that I LOVE. With Bari not being my primary axe and only using it when I need to play shows (pit work), I’ve found it to be very versatile. Oh, I paid $90 for it.
Totally agree xsmi, I also love that mouthpiece and was skimming the comments to see if anyone else recommended it, surprised it took me so long!
You Frekaing LEGEND! I'M LITERALLY BUYING ONE RIGHT NOW. I have a couple of Vandoren b25 and b35 on order right now from two weeks ago, but they aren't expected to arrive until March 18th so I'll keep posted!
You deserve so many more subs... Thanks for everything !
I liked the sound of the Otto Link MP the best!! Looking forward hearing the other comparison videos. 😁
I have been enormously impressed by the Vandoren V16 B9 Hard Rubber. I prefer it to my Otto Link 7* HR or my Berg SS 115/0 both of which are brilliant!
Looking forward to the next video, like to hear a Jody Jazz mouthpiece. I was also interested in your comments on reed strength, found it very useful..
Could definitely tell the difference in sound, but your feedback on how hard it was to play and what kinds of bands they work in are really valuable. Thanks!
Liked the last one best; very impressed with YOUR versatility! Thanks! 🚀
I am playing a Meyer M9 on a Martin Committee (1942) with softer reeds. I found the Meyer gave better intonation and even response on this vintage horn.
I've always loved the Otto link tone edge, especially de older ones
Some really helpful stuff Jay!
Great video Jay! I played a lot the Otto Link 7 and a Leybayle 8. But I've been surprised by the Yamaha (I have a 6C) exactly for what you say (easyness of playing, with reasonably good sound), but also for being so in tune (I play a King Zephyr beginning '50s). But lacks of volume. Now I get the best of my baritone with a Francois Louis, quite open, but price so different...can't compare with the Yamaha, which I find by the way outstanding for the price.
I’m just used to having to try too hard on tenor, alto and soprano so it’s difficult to lay back on the Yamaha 5C but when you do you can sculpt some butter.
Thank you so much for a Bari video. My first mouthpiece this time around,after no Bari for 50 years was a Rico Graftonite. I thought it was good until I got an Otto Link Tone Edge. I liked it until I got a Jody Jazz HR6 and it is still my all around mouthpiece. However I got a really good deal on a Berg Larsen hard rubber 110, 1 M and I love it. I currently play a ‘49 Buescher Aristocrat but I would sure like to try a Yanagisawa. Here’s a thought. When you hit a million subscribers have a contest and give one away. 😉
Thanks for this video man... I play a Vandoren B75 and I need another mouthpiece that has sort of a “tighter” (for lack of a better word) tip opening and that’s obviously cheaper, so this video helped a lot
Thanks
I own a Rico m7 for the bari and for me it works very well it’s a bit darker than my normal mouthpiece which is a Jody jazz jet so it was interesting to see what you had to say.
I don’t play much Bari these days, but when I bought my Bari (a Vito VSP made by Yanigisawa back around 1982 or so , I picked up a Berg Larson 130/0 metal and been playing that ever since !
The Rico Metalite is actually a great mouthpiece! You need to try one in a larger tip opening.
@@hampter2407 In my experience, you can push more air into a larger tip opening. A metalite M8-10 are nice sizes. If you use a M7 or smaller tip opening, you’ll need a reed that’s on the stiffer side.
Good comparison, thank you. Can't wait to hear your metal mp reviews. I was playing a Link Tone Edge HR 7* then bought a new Lawton Bronze 7 STAR after playing a friend's vintage one. Couldn't make it work at all! Turns out my friend's was a 6 STAR which works better for me. Fairly bright, gruff sound - more Ronnie Cuber than Jerry Mulligan though I'm light years away from either of those guys - who isn't!
I just picked up my first bari this month. The shop had only a 5C and a Jody jazz HR 7. The JJ was the clear winner, but I have a lot to learn.
Thanks for the great and great playing
Sup Jay, love your content. I play tenor sax and although I love to play it, I've always wanted to play bari so bad! Lol, you deserve more subs dude for real.
I use the 5c on my school baritone, but now I got one for myself and it has a beautiful dragon engraving on it 😁
yes please, more bari sax videos!
that yanagisawa mouthpiece, love it
I just watched this video tis morning. Timely for me because I bought an old Martin Handcraft Bari off eBay yesterday, no mouthpiece included. I considered picking up a Rico for cheap just to have something. Jay confirmed for me what I felt playing the Ricos on alto and tenor. I finally gave up on cheap mouthpieces and bought Meyer 6Ms (then some Rousseaus, an Ebolin, a Steve Broadus, an Otto Link, a Charles Lakey. . . ) My sax tech has a Meyer 6M for bari, I am going to buy that to start off with.
I play in a sax quartet and a concert band. I use a Vandoren Optima B5 and it sounds great and is very versatile.
those are nice
Actually it's a B4
Great comparisons! I've come full circle to me Yamaha 5C, out of frustration. Anyway , I'm interested in hearing a your thoughts on a Eugene Rousseau pc and how that compares to the Meyer and Otto Link HR. Something that is at home in Big band and Jazz sax choir and quartet.
I play a Yanagisawa stock for classical/quartet stuff, and a metal Otto Link (7 opening) for jazz. You definitely sounded better starting with the stock mpc, but I liked the Link best. Glad to see you on the bari, next let's hear the bass!
Bass Sax will be epic...
I used to play Bari sax (a rental from the old school) but once I moved schools they didn't let me since there where too many at my new school so now I only play Alto sax but I also do play base drum and bassoon because I still kinda miss being apart of that big ensemble bass foundation that we all love.
A bit of advice: Put extra money towards your tax return, and buy a bari for yourself off Alibaba.com. That's what I'm doing.
@@JonesNate thanks, I'll check it out
When I first bought an Alto eight years ago it came with a cheap m/p. Worked on it to open it up. Great. Just a bit more. Dammit! Bought a Yamaha 4c then a 6c dropped it got a 7c. Can't fault them for the price £26. Upgraded to Beechler Bellite 8 - 🗣️ wallpaper stripper! LoL.
Bought a straight Soprano two years ago. Got a Yamaha 7c to use until I got used to it. People tell me it has a sweet sound so still play it.
BTW you sound great on that Bari - Gerry Mulligan roll over 👍 LoL
Very interesting. I preferred the Yamaha. Both Ricos sounded fairly similar to the Yamaha. Were I being forced to spend more, the Otto Link would be my choice, but I'd still prefer the Yamaha. Fortunately for me, I use the Yamaha 5c myself (on a Chinese cheapo instrument which came with a gawdawful noname mp) and I agree, the 5c is easy to play. I usually use Fibracell reeds.
What bari do you play?
When you went from the Rico pieces to the Yanigasawa, the tone was so mich different and so much better
Really dug the Yani and the Graftonite!
Thank you Jay, it will be cool a review about Soprano Sax Mouthpieces
I'll do that at some point.
1:29 Awesome Jay, you nailed it! I’m for the million mark!
Me too.
agree jays amazing at playing all saxes
My Hanson Bari came with a Meyer7 so I’ve bought a Yamaha5c to get me going I’m using Legeres Am cut but needed to go up a half size compared to my Alto.
The Yamaha 5c was my first mouthpiece on Bari, only problem with it, it’s a slim mouthpiece and Bari ligatures don’t always fit, so to be safe you should try a tenor hard rubber ligature, but overall the 5c is the GOAT of beginner mouthpieces
Great to see some Bari videos. The Tone Edge sounds great, not sure if it would be suitable for older vintage instruments. I play a Buescher Bari that is around 100 years old and am currently playing a Caravan Mouthpiece with a rovner Dark ligature as I need a large chamber to bring it into tune.
I played several baritones from the 1930s to the 1960s (so not as old as yours) and a Meyer HR worked great for me on all of them. I believe the have a longer (and larger?) chamber than the Link HR mouthpiece.
Dayna Stephens here. Crazy Jay, you sound great on every one but weirdly I loved the Graftonite the best lol, then the Yani, Meyer, Link, Metalite then the old faithful Yamaha. Baritone is my fav sax and I tend to like fuzzy and stuffy/warm which is funny enough exactly how you described it in a bad way lol I currently play a stock Yani refaced by Sebastian Knox that is the best mouthpiece I own on any horn but for $19 I'm definitely going to try that Graftonite. Cheers
Hey Dayna thanks for watching and your kind comment. That is funny though. I need to give that one another blow now a year later and see. That Yani piece is very nice though for a dark warm and fuzzy sound.
I use the Metalite on alto and bari and it’s my favorite mouthpiece ever
2:20 Now were talking, a Charles Mingus Masterpiece
I have a graftonite for alto and gotta say it didn't come well from factory. Hard and fuzzy as you say. I found out how to work on it and I managed to improve it somewhat. Now it gets me a sharp tone that I like although now it sqwawks if I have it at a certain depth into my mouth. I can't try to fix it lest it disintegrates entirely so I just put up with it until I can buy another one and get it right.
I play a B991 and I absolutely agree, it plays fantastically.
yeah B991 is amazing!
Jay, for comparison - what mouthpiece do you usually play on bari (incl. tip opening)? The M7 is about a .110" (inch) opening.
Such a difference between the 3 cheaper mouthpieces and the Yani, Link & Meyer (which all sounded about the same to me.)
The Yani sounds nice too !
Great video! BTW for all you sax players, all saxophones from the subcontrabass to the Sopranissimo all play in the treble clef. 😊 🎼 ♫ 🎷
I will wholeheartedly vouch for the RICO Metalite. It’s super freeblowing, and completely opens up the full register of the horn. It does take a little getting used to, especially if you’re coming from the Yamaha 5c, which by comparison is super stuffy. Never tried the M7 but from what I hear is not nearly as good as the M5. The common opinion is that the M7 is far too open and resistant. Personally, I’d say go for the M5 mouthpiece. Been playing a year and it’s brilliant, especially for $20.
Darn, wish you had done this series a couple months ago. I just got done replacing my Martin that I dropped and broke off the corner of the tip. My local repair guy attempted a fix, but it didn't play nearly the same.
Proud of you jay
Bari Sax stuff! Yay!
Puedes hablar de la boquilla e rousseau clasic porfavor, buen video.
Can you do a video on how to get a “Fat meaty” bari sound? I’m wondering if it has something to do with the horn (should it be a Low Bb or a Low A) or are some mouthpieces more suited for that sound like the Yanagisawa and the Otto link tone edge
Looking forward to your inexpensive Bar Sax reviews. Played in high school but I decided to start back this month. I would like to buy one but I am currently renting a Bari while I figure things out again. It is an Accent (was not familiar with the brand). Any insights on those?
the moment u started playing charle's mingus's moanin'..LEO P popped up in my head :D :D
One way to maximize the playability of the Rico mouthpieces is to use them with Rico (D'addario) reeds. I prefer the Graftonite over the Metallite. I get a good sound for very little $. That said I wish the Grftnite came in a 9.
The Yamaha sounds great!
Im gonna learn it
I use a Yanagisawa metal mouthpiece for my T-991. It would be awesome if you tried the one for the baritone.
i cant wait to use my 5C soon
Hej Jay. Love your videos.
If at all relevant for you, would you be so kind as to make a video about saxophone players playing the clarinet? For example: Is a bigger opening on a clarinet mouthpiece better for saxplayers? Modification of the mouthposition, breathing etc. Thank you for great videos. :-)
How about the next two videos on medium and high priced bari pieces? thinking about that singers day(?) bari sax.
Yamaha 5C sounded good. Nothing super outstanding, but sounded good.
The Rico sounded really pinched, especially when you went to the higher register. Good price though!
Rico Metalite overall sounded ok, but wasn't over impressed.
Yanagisawa sounded really full to me. I liked this one.
Otto link Tone Edge - Overall best sounding one to my ear. Low notes were full, with good punch. Higher register sounded great as well.
Meyer 9 - well, been using a Meyer in one form or another since about 1982 so, have a real bias towards it.
Curious how the different mouthpieces were with intonation.
Thanks for your videos!
very good video, I would like to know if a saxophone of the Roy brand. Is Benson a good option?
greetings from Mexico
I'll get my Bari playing friend to watch. I play Tenor with a Selmer C*80, what would the
tip opening on that mouthpiece be? I also have an Otto Link 8 which I play with a much
softer reed, a Leger Signature 2.25, and you confirmed for me today in your video that
you should play a softer reed with a bigger tip opening.
Thanks for all you do!
tenor selmer S-80 C* is .085", Otto Link 8 is .110"
YES, the internet was in sore need of good videos on baritone gear! Also might I ask, where do you take your mouthpieces to get worked on?
Phil Engleman of Phil-Tone Mouthpieces
@@bettersax Thank you!
Don't own a bari, never likely to be able to afford that much brass. Still very cool to watch another Better Sax review and with a shot of Charles Mingus "moanin". I remember that track from film "The Whole Nine Yards" and it being on of the pieces of music that really got me wanting to play sax... You play it so well :)
Stu Last if you want a not too expensive Bari you could try a Kessler soloist or a Jupiter 593 or vintage horns Conn King Bundt etc
@@lucassstache8069 Thanks buddy! I'll have a look when I've saved up some pennies/cents/francs/etc etc
Not sure where you're at, Stu, but if you're in the US and have a regular job, you can add extra money to your tax return by adjusting your W-4. Then use your return check to buy a Bari. That's what I'm doing; I finally did enough of that last year, so I'm buying a Bari Sax off Alibaba.com this year.
I never expected him to play Moanin by Ronnie Cuber even though it's a jazz classic.
I personally think the Yani sounded best, specifically in the lower range (although that's probably cause you've had work done on it).